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Dunai
02-27-2020, 01:11 AM
Take the test and post a screenshot of where you lain:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

https://prnt.sc/r88nzh

Little bit surprised that I end up so close to pure Left-Libertarianism, since I mostly consider myself as a Moderate Democratic Socialist, and believe in strong democratic state institutions.

These are the ideological positions:
https://i.redd.it/f88fm8jzcza31.png

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2020, 01:14 AM
People still use the political compass ? :picard2:

Teutone
02-27-2020, 01:19 AM
People still use the political compass ? :picard2:

Come on for the fun

I wonder about yours

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2020, 01:27 AM
Come on for the fun

I wonder about yours
Alright. Let's do it. Let's see.

<article class="measure-wide center"> <header> Your Political Compass

</header> <section class="f4-ns lh-copy"> Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.21

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.25&soc=0.21 </section> Maybe it's indicative in the way I see the role of the government: I see them as a uppity servant that sometimes needs to be punched in the snout in order to remind them who is boss. I believe in traditional morals but the uppity servant should have no business in legislating them: we can do that for ourselves through our own behaviour. For the rest, I do believe in certain controls over the economy and in either the nationalisation or breaking up of large monopolies. I consider companies like Shell, DSM, the NS, the banking sector, the telecommunication services and KLM as well as the entire infrastructure such as the ports, the railways, road network and the airports (particularly Schiphol) to be national strategic assets to be owned by the people by name of the State and in the case of the banks to be divided up between a large state consumer bank (such as the Volksbank today) and smaller cooperative banks or those who operate under a certain prudence and care for the wider society (Triodos and ASN come to mind).

</article>

Celestia
02-27-2020, 01:31 AM
Alright. Let's do it. Let's see.

<article class="measure-wide center"> <header> Your Political Compass

</header> <section class="f4-ns lh-copy"> Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.21

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.25&soc=0.21 </section> Maybe it's indicative in the way I see the role of the government: I see them as a uppity servant that sometimes needs to be punched in the snout in order to remind them who is boss. I believe in traditional morals but the uppity servant should have no business in legislating them: we can do that for ourselves through our own behaviour. For the rest, I do believe in certain controls over the economy and in either the nationalisation or breaking up of large monopolies.

</article>

Ours are similar.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95844&d=1582770658

frankhammer
02-27-2020, 01:32 AM
Not my first rodeo. A couple of years back for a similar thread

https://i.imgur.com/muFOFrR.png

And today.

https://i.imgur.com/2NqDjX3.png

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2020, 01:36 AM
Ours are similar.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95844&d=1582770658
I guess the Left just isn't the Left anymore. ;)

Teutone
02-27-2020, 01:43 AM
To me its always accurate

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=4.5&soc=3.33

Kivan
02-27-2020, 01:44 AM
I thought it would stand at "libertarian".

https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture1185-t9rkwh.png

Celestia
02-27-2020, 01:46 AM
I guess the Left just isn't the Left anymore. ;)

SJW’s have tainted liberalism unfortunately

PaleoEuropean
02-27-2020, 01:51 AM
https://i.imgur.com/twA3iQS.jpg

El_Abominacion
02-27-2020, 01:52 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200227/fa7e09765efee2ab4c4037929cf788a0.jpg

Nazarene
02-27-2020, 01:54 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/L58mVf4P/pc.jpg

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-27-2020, 02:02 AM
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-1.13&soc=4.92

So I am the most authoritarian so far, albeit slightly on the left? My views on religion are probably the main cause.

Westbrook
02-27-2020, 02:10 AM
https://i.imgur.com/0L6jsbx.jpg

PaleoEuropean
02-27-2020, 02:16 AM
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-1.13&soc=4.92

So I am the most authoritarian so far, albeit slightly on the left? My views on religion are probably the main cause.

Similar to mine, I think my views on social security and corporate responsibility pushed me to the left.

Kyp
02-27-2020, 05:38 AM
Centered master race clocking in

https://i.imgur.com/oyTtmo0.jpg

Dunai
02-27-2020, 10:18 AM
SJW’s have tainted liberalism unfortunately

It is a very common misconception that Liberals and Leftists are the same thing, especially perpetuated by Nationalists. They conveniently lump the Left and Liberals together, because both ideologies share common anti-fascist values, but economically they are as far apart as anything. Actually Liberals are on the same Right-wing position as Conservatives are when it comes to believing in unchecked free markets, praising Capitalism as the sole solution for market economy.

Tooting Carmen
02-27-2020, 02:05 PM
To me its always accurate

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=4.5&soc=3.33

I thought your dot would be at least a little further northeast, but whatever.

Tooting Carmen
02-27-2020, 02:10 PM
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-5.88&soc=-3.64

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64

Teutone
02-27-2020, 02:11 PM
I thought your dot would be at least a little further northeast, but whatever.

You are to the left what I am to the right

You think id violently enforce my ideas, which I do not intent at all.

Tooting Carmen
02-27-2020, 02:16 PM
You are to the left what I am to the right

You think id violently enforce my ideas, which I do not intent at all.

Well in fairness, I'd still regard you as less truly authoritarian than e.g. Smeagol or CV (though I am not sure where they stand on economic issues, which they seldom if ever really discuss at all).

RandomGuy20
02-27-2020, 02:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/du7P9Te.png

nittionia
02-27-2020, 02:28 PM
Some of them were hard to answer with just agree or disagree, anyways:
https://i.imgur.com/sVwltgX.png

Westbrook
02-27-2020, 02:41 PM
You are to the left what I am to the right

You think id violently enforce my ideas, which I do not intent at all.

Got me curious... Wonder how accurate this is

https://i.imgur.com/kiyBaJO.png

Tooting Carmen
02-27-2020, 02:48 PM
Got me curious... Wonder how accurate this is

https://i.imgur.com/kiyBaJO.png

It isn't. Pakistan is not any more leftist than Saudi Arabia or Russia. And how could Pinochet and even Reagan be classed as more authoritarian than Mao and Lenin???

nittionia
02-27-2020, 02:49 PM
wow i am sock account for gandhi?

Maintenance
02-27-2020, 03:07 PM
Interesting, according to this chart im left, according to swedish people im hitler.

https://i.imgur.com/561M23U.png

PT Tagus
02-27-2020, 03:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wFgkpsG.png

Celestia
02-27-2020, 03:38 PM
It is a very common misconception that Liberals and Leftists are the same thing, especially perpetuated by Nationalists. They conveniently lump the Left and Liberals together, because both ideologies share common anti-fascist values, but economically they are as far apart as anything. Actually Liberals are on the same Right-wing position as Conservatives are when it comes to believing in unchecked free markets, praising Capitalism as the sole solution for market economy.

Yes you are absolutely right. This misconception has been plagued by liberal candidates being overshadowed by overly progressive ones. At least this is the case for the United States. I haven’t kept up with politics much outside of my country anymore, it gives me a headache.

Defcon2
02-27-2020, 03:54 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/rpQwC5fp/compasspolitic.png

Kamal900
02-27-2020, 04:21 PM
https://i.ibb.co/VS1GnWP/2020-02-27-21-17-36-www-politicalcompass-org-6653d494872b.jpg

Looks like I'm a classical Liberal which is pretty accurate for me really since I do believe in true egalitarian values like Carl Benjamin AKA Sargon of Akkad on Youtube rather than what the neo-Liberals and the neo-Cons like Trump and Hilary Clinton believe in.

Maintenance
02-27-2020, 04:23 PM
Interesting, im left wing on this compass, in sweden the media call me a nazi/hitler

https://i.imgur.com/SlpCudF.png

Tooting Carmen
02-27-2020, 04:29 PM
Interesting, im left wing on this compass, in sweden the media call me a nazi/hitler

https://i.imgur.com/SlpCudF.png

The Nazis were called National Socialists, remember? xD

mitalit
02-27-2020, 04:34 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/178c93131c80a49ccf1aab73d5d17650.png

Rædwald
02-27-2020, 04:37 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/vTcfWn92/Capture1.png

:hitler:

Dunai
02-27-2020, 04:37 PM
Yes you are absolutely right. This misconception has been plagued by liberal candidates being overshadowed by overly progressive ones. At least this is the case for the United States. I haven’t kept up with politics much outside of my country anymore, it gives me a headache.

As an example to what you said, anyone can follow the coverage of the US presidential elections on MSNBC and CNN (Liberal channels), and they tend to be even harsher to Bernie Sanders (someone who isn't even too far on the Left, but more like a Social Democrat), than on Fox News (Conservative channel). I heard dozens of times the Communist labeling of Bernie on those two Liberal channels, as if I was watching some pro-Trump channel, it's crazy.

Bosniensis
02-27-2020, 04:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/tXAytt8.png

Decius
02-27-2020, 04:41 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/L58mVf4P/pc.jpg

My nigga

Decius
02-27-2020, 04:43 PM
https://i.ibb.co/VS1GnWP/2020-02-27-21-17-36-www-politicalcompass-org-6653d494872b.jpg

Looks like I'm a classical Liberal which is pretty accurate for me really since I do believe in true egalitarian values like Carl Benjamin AKA Sargon of Akkad on Youtube rather than what the neo-Liberals and the neo-Cons like Trump and Hilary Clinton believe in.

Dude trump isn’t a neocon lol

AlfonsoVIII
02-27-2020, 04:43 PM
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.56
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-6.75&soc=0.56

Dunai
02-27-2020, 04:44 PM
Looks like I'm a classical Liberal which is pretty accurate for me really since I do believe in true egalitarian values like Carl Benjamin AKA Sargon of Akkad on Youtube rather than what the neo-Liberals and the neo-Cons like Trump and Hilary Clinton believe in.

You got it mixed up here. Classical Liberalism is much to the Right, just as Carl, you got Social Democracy:

https://i.redd.it/f88fm8jzcza31.png

Kamal900
02-27-2020, 04:46 PM
Dude trump isn’t a neocon lol

Well, if you're talking about 2015 Trump then yeah, but not today's Trump since he's pretty cozy with the neocons of America lately. I missed the old Trump.

Kamal900
02-27-2020, 04:47 PM
You got it mixed up here. Classical Liberalism is much to the Right, just as Carl, you got Social Democracy:

https://i.redd.it/f88fm8jzcza31.png

So..I'm like Bernie Sanders?

Decius
02-27-2020, 04:47 PM
Well, if you're talking about 2015 Trump then yeah, but not today's Trump since he's pretty cozy with the neocons of America lately. I missed the old Trump.

He’s not a neocon dude. He’s avoided so much conflict and wars. His foreign policy is way better then any modern American president by far

TheMaestro
02-27-2020, 04:52 PM
Sure, I love politicians and political parties.


https://i.imgur.com/xxZ95Zf.jpg

Tooting Carmen
02-27-2020, 04:56 PM
He’s not a neocon dude. He’s avoided so much conflict and wars. His foreign policy is way better then any modern American president by far

Yes and no. He's tried (however flailingly) to reconcile with Russia and even North Korea, but is much more bellicose with China, Iran and even Venezuela.

Decius
02-27-2020, 05:00 PM
Yes and no. He's tried (however flailingly) to reconcile with Russia and even North Korea, but is much more bellicose with China, Iran and even Venezuela.


He’s doing a much better job then the clintons and Obama’s of the world ever did. Even though he had beef with Iran he ultimately avoided further conflict. If Clinton won we would be in WW3 rn

Decius
02-27-2020, 05:01 PM
Double post

Tooting Carmen
02-27-2020, 05:02 PM
This song by Gloria Estefan largely sums up how I feel about politics and free speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tYWDux-Oj0

Mr.G
02-27-2020, 05:17 PM
I detect a little southern shift..

https://i.imgur.com/Bu5031P.png

Dunai
02-27-2020, 05:39 PM
Sure, I love politicians and political parties.


https://i.imgur.com/xxZ95Zf.jpg

The political compass is about you as an individual, and what are your core values, rather than what party do you support. It's not perfect, but it can give you an idea where you lean more. For example I have no party loyalty, as I consider myself an Idependent, but definitely have a well defined political ideology.

gixajo
02-27-2020, 05:41 PM
I am a dangerous leftist.

https://i.imgur.com/DSZRzaS.jpg

Blondie
02-27-2020, 05:46 PM
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=1.75&soc=-1.13

gixajo
02-27-2020, 06:42 PM
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.56
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-6.75&soc=0.56

Eres rojo!!!

Yo soy un socialdemócrata común.

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2020, 06:45 PM
Got me curious... Wonder how accurate this is

https://i.imgur.com/kiyBaJO.png

Not so, I guess. Judging from his actual political views and mine, Sanders and I have nothing in common.

gixajo
02-27-2020, 06:52 PM
Not so, I guess. Judging from his actual political views and mine, Sanders and I have nothing in common.

According to this, I am like Gandhi...

PaleoEuropean
02-27-2020, 06:55 PM
Sure, I love politicians and political parties.


https://i.imgur.com/xxZ95Zf.jpg

I am a nation social retard, I believe all non-retards should be sent un-education camps

Arsen_
02-27-2020, 07:00 PM
https://c.radikal.ru/c01/2002/7b/814b853ffba3.jpg

So I got "Social conservatism"

Kamal900
02-27-2020, 07:00 PM
I believe all non-retards should be sent un-education camps


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fFsocSJ3lI

Feiichy and her husband are already there having fun..:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_bUE1YpxX4

Dunai
02-27-2020, 07:55 PM
Not so, I guess. Judging from his actual political views and mine, Sanders and I have nothing in common.

These mappings are not 100% accurate of what views someone has, but based on what you wrote on first page, economically you have more common ground with Bernie than you might wanna admit. This is close to Democratic Socialism:

"I do believe in certain controls over the economy and in either the nationalisation or breaking up of large monopolies. I consider companies like Shell, DSM, the NS, the banking sector, the telecommunication services and KLM as well as the entire infrastructure such as the ports, the railways, road network and the airports (particularly Schiphol) to be national strategic assets to be owned by the people by name of the State and in the case of the banks to be divided up"

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2020, 08:35 PM
These mappings are not 100% accurate of what views someone has, but based on what you wrote on first page, economically you have more common ground with Bernie than you might wanna admit. This is close to Democratic Socialism:

"I do believe in certain controls over the economy and in either the nationalisation or breaking up of large monopolies. I consider companies like Shell, DSM, the NS, the banking sector, the telecommunication services and KLM as well as the entire infrastructure such as the ports, the railways, road network and the airports (particularly Schiphol) to be national strategic assets to be owned by the people by name of the State and in the case of the banks to be divided up"

He isn't a patriot and isn't acting out of a sense of patriotism.

Dunai
02-27-2020, 08:45 PM
He isn't a patriot and isn't acting out of a sense of patriotism.

From what I read and heard from him, he could be the only true patriot in the American race, since he wants all inhabitants of the US to thrive, not only the privileged upper class. To me that's real patriotism, not forgetting the underprivileged. He may not represent the flag waving Right-wing type of patriotism, but that's not the only type of patriotism. National symbols have their place, but shouldn't have priority over representing all people.

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2020, 08:53 PM
From what I read and heard from him, he could be the only true patriot in the American race, since he wants all inhabitants of the US to thrive, not only the privileged upper class. To me that's real patriotism, not forgetting the underprivileged. He may not represent the flag waving Right-wing type of patriotism, but that's not the only type of patriotism. National symbols have their place, but shouldn't have priority over representing all people.

Sanders is the man with three or four multi-million dollar homes that wants to represent everybody but white Americans - a prototype champagne socialist. Now I agree with your criticism of the American right but neither American leftists or rightists are patriots in any real meaningful way.

Dunai
02-27-2020, 09:15 PM
Sanders is the man with three or four multi-million dollar homes that wants to represent everybody but white Americans - a prototype champagne socialist. Now I agree with your criticism of the American right but neither American leftists or rightists are patriots in any real meaningful way.

At least he is a millionaire (even if $2 million wealth after decades of being mayor, congressman, senator and writing best-selling books is nowhere near outlandish rich status) that does put his reputation and life on the line, going into the most stressful and dirtiest campaign someone at his age could do, fighting for presidency of the US, in the name of the forgotten. I massively respect this, especially that he has represented the same issues for decades, and he is not one of these ingenuine Liberals, who only recently had a change of heart for Progressive politics.

The Lawspeaker
02-27-2020, 09:17 PM
At least he is a millionaire (even if $2 million wealth after decades of being mayor, congressman, senator and writing best-selling books is nowhere near outlandish rich status) that does put his reputation and life on the line, going into the most stressful and dirtiest campaign someone at his age could do, fighting for presidency of the US, in the name of the forgotten. I massively respect this, especially that he has represented the same issues for decades, and he is not one of these ingenuine Liberals, who only recently had a change of heart for Progressive politics.

But he is also someone who happily joined in attacking one part of the population; white Americans. So he is not much of a patriot there. Just another power hungry politician.

Dragoon
02-27-2020, 09:18 PM
People still use the political compass ? :picard2:

Political compass is a poorly done quiz for multiple reasons.

The confusion in the left and right debate I explain here:

You are used to the older system of left and right which originates in the French Revolution. Same with many of the traditionalist posters here including myself. We tend to like using old systems.
Therefore for us political liberalism is definitely left wing (all forms of it, some more so than others... examples: radicalism, classical liberalism, new liberalism, progressive, national liberalism, neoconservatism, libertarianism). It was the first to be left wing in opposition to conservative.

Others are using the newer system of left and right which originates in the early 1900s when liberalism and socialism were opponents in many ways.
This puts heavily emphasis on economics. But politics is far more than just economics.

They forget that you can easily be right wing and conservative andd OPPOSE many aspects of economic liberalism/or liberal capitalism.
The first conservatives did oppose these politicies.

Dunai
02-27-2020, 09:23 PM
But he is also someone who happily joined in attacking one part of the population; white Americans. So he is not much of a patriot there. Just another power hungry politician.

I yet have to see any anti-White statements from him, where he generalizes that all White people are evil or something like that. He surely did always call-out White supremacy, but that is a fringe movement that is not representative of all White Americans.

Creoda
02-27-2020, 09:25 PM
I yet have to see any anti-White statements from him, where he generalizes that all White people are evil or something like that. He surely did always call-out White supremacy, but that is a fringe movement that is not representative of all White Americans.
"White people don't know what it's like to be poor" - Bernie Sanders

Dunai
02-27-2020, 09:30 PM
"White people don't know what it's like to be poor" - Bernie Sanders

The context is also important:

"Sanders' statement during the debate in Flint, Michigan, followed a question from CNN anchor Don Lemon, who asked him and Hillary Clinton what racial blind spots they have.

Sanders said; "When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car."

It was definitely in the context of the Black American experience, which no White American knows how it's like, no matter how poor they are. I don't agree how simplistic he formulated it, but I don't see any anti-White bias in this.

Creoda
02-27-2020, 09:39 PM
The context is also important:

"Sanders' statement during the debate in Flint, Michigan, followed a question from CNN anchor Don Lemon, who asked him and Hillary Clinton what racial blind spots they have.

Sanders said; "When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car."

It was definitely in the context of the Black American experience, which no White American knows how it's like, no matter how poor they are. I don't agree how simplistic he formulated it, but I don't see any anti-White bias in this.
And why is he always racially advocating on behalf of black Americans and Hispanics? Why does he never advocate on behalf of white Americans or talk about the White American experience? Why is his only mentioning of Whiteness in terms of the threat it poses (White Nationalism)?

Dick
02-27-2020, 09:45 PM
And why is he always racially advocating on behalf of black Americans and Hispanics? Why does he never advocate on behalf of white Americans or talk about the White American experience? Why is his only mentioning of Whiteness in terms of the threat it poses (White Nationalism)?

Because he is a dangerous radical, even most Jews see him that way, but the college kids love him.

The Blade
03-01-2020, 06:40 PM
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-1.0&soc=-0.62
If I'm a leftie, then some so-called ''centrists'' are hyper leftist.

The Lawspeaker
03-01-2020, 06:52 PM
Dude trump isn’t a neocon lol


Nah. He is more of a neo Cunt.

Tooting Carmen
03-01-2020, 06:55 PM
Nah. He is more of a neo Cunt.

He puts the 'n' in tax cuts for the wealthy. xD

frankhammer
03-01-2020, 08:04 PM
He puts the 'n' in tax cuts for the wealthy. xD

:laugh:

Ülev
03-01-2020, 08:07 PM
Единая Россия (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Russia) :laugh:

PaleoEuropean
03-01-2020, 08:07 PM
Because he is a dangerous radical, even most Jews see him that way, but the college kids love him.

He is a cuck too, he used to write cuck erotic novels.

Dick
03-01-2020, 08:09 PM
He is a cuck too, he used to write cuck erotic novels.

Lol like literally cuck eroticism?

PaleoEuropean
03-01-2020, 08:12 PM
Lol like literally cuck eroticism?

Yea back in the 1970's, I heard some of it was a bit rapey too; never actually read his literature.

PaleoEuropean
03-01-2020, 08:13 PM
Lol like literally cuck eroticism?

Here is some of it, maybe it was all short stories.

https://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8682503/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy

PaleoEuropean
03-01-2020, 08:19 PM
Lol like literally cuck eroticism?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoSTfS3n8iE

InfamousAngel99
06-24-2020, 08:20 PM
100072

Linebacker
01-10-2021, 03:09 AM
Im just walking straight in the middle. Used to be more left leaning in the past but politics have become way too tribal these days, I never had that conformist way of thinking that has become required to be on one side or the other. No tolerance anymore for thinking for yourself and deciding what you support or not.

Both sides have become tribal cults and you have to believe everything by the books to be on the inside or you get called a shill.