View Full Version : DNA Results + GEDmatch + G25 - NORTH AFRICAN
walid
02-28-2020, 11:09 AM
Hello guys
This my DNA test Results
FTDNA Autosomal
80% North Africa
8% East Middle East
7% South East European
5% Sephardic Jew
Eurogenes K13
95876
Eurogenes K15
95877
HarappaWorld
95878
G25
95879
Are the results seems Accurate? and does the south east european and sephardic might be real ancestry or just a noise? Please help me to interpret my results i'm Kinda newbie
Thank you
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 11:14 AM
Eurogenes seems to be accurate for a morrocan. Can you tell me which calc did you use with G25 coords?
walid
02-28-2020, 11:17 AM
Eurogenes seems to be accurate for a morrocan. Can you tell me which calc did you use with G25 coords?
What do you think about my eurogenes results , are they compatible with FTDNA results? and for the G25 i just give a friend my coords and he send me the results
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 11:22 AM
What do you think about my eurogenes results , are they compatible with FTDNA results? and for the G25 i just give a friend my coords and he send me the results
Do this for me: Post Eurogenes k36 and go to this website http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ try the G25 calcs with your coords, specially the Word Nicola 25 Scaled. Just paste coords in source and go to Single.
walid
02-28-2020, 11:28 AM
Do this for me: Post Eurogenes k36 and go to this website http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ try the G25 calcs with your coords, specially the Word Nicola 25 Scaled. Just paste coords in source and go to Single.
K3695881
But i can't found this Word Nicola 25 on G25
gixajo
02-28-2020, 11:29 AM
What do you think about my eurogenes results , are they compatible with FTDNA results? and for the G25 i just give a friend my coords and he send me the results
And if you can also post your eurogenes g36 results please...
gixajo
02-28-2020, 11:32 AM
Thanks!!!
Where exactly are your ancestors from in Morocco?
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 11:36 AM
K3695881
But i can't found this Word Nicola 25 on G25
Go to Custom G25 calcs, after that go to World Nicola 25, Post coords in Source, go to Single and Press you name.
I already saw your k36, you seem pred. riffian, but i'm still not sure.
gixajo
02-28-2020, 11:41 AM
Thanks!!!
This is your g36 map:
https://i.imgur.com/SwzPXaK.png
https://i.imgur.com/F3iZ9s1.png
https://i.imgur.com/tr123vg.png
walid
02-28-2020, 11:42 AM
Thanks!!!
Where exactly are your ancestors from in Morocco?
My dad is from central south morocco , my mom is from central morocco
walid
02-28-2020, 11:44 AM
Go to Custom G25 calcs, after that go to World Nicola 25, Post coords in Source, go to Single and Press you name.
I already saw your k36, you seem pred. riffian, but i'm still not sure.
95882
95883
Those?
walid
02-28-2020, 11:45 AM
Thanks!!!
This is your g36 map:
https://i.imgur.com/SwzPXaK.png
https://i.imgur.com/F3iZ9s1.png
https://i.imgur.com/tr123vg.png
Wow thank you!, but what does the numbers mean please?
gixajo
02-28-2020, 11:49 AM
Wow thank you!, but what does the numbers mean please?
Taux de similitude.
% de similitude genetique avec la population du lieu ou il est placée la marque, en rouge plus de similitude, apres orange, jaune, vert est la plus petite similitude.
gixajo
02-28-2020, 11:52 AM
Sorry, I suposed you understand French, maybe you speak only in Arab and I would be speak in English.
walid
02-28-2020, 11:54 AM
95882
95883
Those?
and this is the scaled one
95884
95885
walid
02-28-2020, 11:55 AM
Sorry, I suposed you understand French, maybe you speak only in Arab and I would be speak in English.
i speak all of them :D , and thank you so much for the results you send
gixajo
02-28-2020, 12:01 PM
should have spoken in English*
walid
02-28-2020, 12:15 PM
Depending on the eurogenes and G25 results , are the autosomal FTDNA results accurate?
gixajo
02-28-2020, 12:24 PM
Depending on the eurogenes and G25 results , are the autosomal FTDNA results accurate?
Acceptably accurate.
The ethnic estimations of every company are what they are,only estimations, with more estimations and others data (that we get using their raw datain other sites), on the whole, we can make ourselves a more accurate idea about our origins.
You can export your raw data to another internet sites for free, DnaLand, for example, and obtain other ethnic estimation.
How much of your African is Maurusian and how much is genuine Sub-Saharan?
walid
02-28-2020, 12:49 PM
How much of your African is Maurusian and how much is genuine Sub-Saharan?
Where can i see this please?
Where can i see this please?
I cannot tell you exactly but it's possible with G25 only.
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 01:24 PM
and this is the scaled one
95884
95885
Scaled it's better in the World Nicola. You are pred. western moroccan, with a big portion of eatern moroccan and slighty other things. FTDNA was accurate in your case IMO.
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 01:26 PM
How much of your African is Maurusian and how much is genuine Sub-Saharan?
He has almost nothing SSA.
He has almost nothing SSA.
It's impossible. All North Africans have it. There is no need to deny that.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Southern 51.79
2 African 21.03
3 Atlantic_Baltic 19.33
4 Caucasus_Gedrosia 5.03
5 South_Asian 0.96
6 Australasian 0.93
7 East_Asian 0.93
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite 6.35
2 Moroccans (Behar) 7.76
3 Egyptans (Behar) 20.34
4 Yemenese (Behar) 25.59
5 Bedouin (HGDP) 27.67
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.05
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 30.77
8 Jordanians (Behar) 30.87
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 31.46
10 Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) 32.51
11 Saudis (Behar) 32.78
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 34.55
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 34.57
14 Ethiopians (Behar) 34.64
15 Lebanese (Behar) 34.85
16 S_Italian (Dodecad) 35.39
17 Ashkenazy_Jews 35.5
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 35.52
19 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 35.95
20 Cypriots (Behar) 36.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% Mozabite + 14.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.59
2 86.7% Mozabite + 13.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.97
3 85.2% Mozabite + 14.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.03
4 88% Mozabite + 12% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.09
5 84% Mozabite + 16% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
6 82.4% Mozabite + 17.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
7 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.23
8 89% Mozabite + 11% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.25
9 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.28
10 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 2.31
11 86.2% Mozabite + 13.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.32
12 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.33
13 88.9% Mozabite + 11.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37
14 88.1% Mozabite + 11.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.38
15 83.9% Mozabite + 16.1% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.43
16 88.8% Mozabite + 11.2% Turks (Behar) @ 2.49
17 89.4% Mozabite + 10.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
18 84.1% Mozabite + 15.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.52
19 90.8% Mozabite + 9.2% Georgians (Behar) @ 2.63
20 90.3% Mozabite + 9.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
At least half of it might be actual SSA.
Rocinante
02-28-2020, 01:33 PM
It's impossible. All North Africans have it. There is no need to deny that.
I'm don't need to deny anything, look at his World Nicola 25. Also look at his k36, if he has 6% of SSA it's a lot for him, and moroccans (except riffians) have much much more than that.
walid
02-28-2020, 01:50 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Southern 51.79
2 African 21.03
3 Atlantic_Baltic 19.33
4 Caucasus_Gedrosia 5.03
5 South_Asian 0.96
6 Australasian 0.93
7 East_Asian 0.93
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite 6.35
2 Moroccans (Behar) 7.76
3 Egyptans (Behar) 20.34
4 Yemenese (Behar) 25.59
5 Bedouin (HGDP) 27.67
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.05
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 30.77
8 Jordanians (Behar) 30.87
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 31.46
10 Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) 32.51
11 Saudis (Behar) 32.78
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 34.55
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 34.57
14 Ethiopians (Behar) 34.64
15 Lebanese (Behar) 34.85
16 S_Italian (Dodecad) 35.39
17 Ashkenazy_Jews 35.5
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 35.52
19 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 35.95
20 Cypriots (Behar) 36.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% Mozabite + 14.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.59
2 86.7% Mozabite + 13.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.97
3 85.2% Mozabite + 14.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.03
4 88% Mozabite + 12% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.09
5 84% Mozabite + 16% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
6 82.4% Mozabite + 17.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
7 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.23
8 89% Mozabite + 11% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.25
9 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.28
10 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 2.31
11 86.2% Mozabite + 13.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.32
12 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.33
13 88.9% Mozabite + 11.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37
14 88.1% Mozabite + 11.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.38
15 83.9% Mozabite + 16.1% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.43
16 88.8% Mozabite + 11.2% Turks (Behar) @ 2.49
17 89.4% Mozabite + 10.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
18 84.1% Mozabite + 15.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.52
19 90.8% Mozabite + 9.2% Georgians (Behar) @ 2.63
20 90.3% Mozabite + 9.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
At least half of it might be actual SSA.
I dont know whats this but most of my g25 dont show obvious SSA
walid
02-28-2020, 01:52 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Southern 51.79
2 African 21.03
3 Atlantic_Baltic 19.33
4 Caucasus_Gedrosia 5.03
5 South_Asian 0.96
6 Australasian 0.93
7 East_Asian 0.93
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite 6.35
2 Moroccans (Behar) 7.76
3 Egyptans (Behar) 20.34
4 Yemenese (Behar) 25.59
5 Bedouin (HGDP) 27.67
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.05
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 30.77
8 Jordanians (Behar) 30.87
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 31.46
10 Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) 32.51
11 Saudis (Behar) 32.78
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 34.55
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 34.57
14 Ethiopians (Behar) 34.64
15 Lebanese (Behar) 34.85
16 S_Italian (Dodecad) 35.39
17 Ashkenazy_Jews 35.5
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 35.52
19 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 35.95
20 Cypriots (Behar) 36.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% Mozabite + 14.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.59
2 86.7% Mozabite + 13.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.97
3 85.2% Mozabite + 14.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.03
4 88% Mozabite + 12% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.09
5 84% Mozabite + 16% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
6 82.4% Mozabite + 17.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
7 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.23
8 89% Mozabite + 11% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.25
9 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.28
10 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 2.31
11 86.2% Mozabite + 13.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.32
12 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.33
13 88.9% Mozabite + 11.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37
14 88.1% Mozabite + 11.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.38
15 83.9% Mozabite + 16.1% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.43
16 88.8% Mozabite + 11.2% Turks (Behar) @ 2.49
17 89.4% Mozabite + 10.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
18 84.1% Mozabite + 15.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.52
19 90.8% Mozabite + 9.2% Georgians (Behar) @ 2.63
20 90.3% Mozabite + 9.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
At least half of it might be actual SSA.
And what does southern means here please
I dont know whats this but most of my g25 dont show obvious SSA
The model in the OP says 7% Mesolithic SS.
walid
02-28-2020, 01:55 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Southern 51.79
2 African 21.03
3 Atlantic_Baltic 19.33
4 Caucasus_Gedrosia 5.03
5 South_Asian 0.96
6 Australasian 0.93
7 East_Asian 0.93
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite 6.35
2 Moroccans (Behar) 7.76
3 Egyptans (Behar) 20.34
4 Yemenese (Behar) 25.59
5 Bedouin (HGDP) 27.67
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.05
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 30.77
8 Jordanians (Behar) 30.87
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 31.46
10 Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) 32.51
11 Saudis (Behar) 32.78
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 34.55
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 34.57
14 Ethiopians (Behar) 34.64
15 Lebanese (Behar) 34.85
16 S_Italian (Dodecad) 35.39
17 Ashkenazy_Jews 35.5
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 35.52
19 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 35.95
20 Cypriots (Behar) 36.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% Mozabite + 14.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.59
2 86.7% Mozabite + 13.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.97
3 85.2% Mozabite + 14.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.03
4 88% Mozabite + 12% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.09
5 84% Mozabite + 16% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
6 82.4% Mozabite + 17.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
7 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.23
8 89% Mozabite + 11% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.25
9 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.28
10 89.2% Mozabite + 10.8% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 2.31
11 86.2% Mozabite + 13.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.32
12 89.1% Mozabite + 10.9% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.33
13 88.9% Mozabite + 11.1% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37
14 88.1% Mozabite + 11.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.38
15 83.9% Mozabite + 16.1% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.43
16 88.8% Mozabite + 11.2% Turks (Behar) @ 2.49
17 89.4% Mozabite + 10.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
18 84.1% Mozabite + 15.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.52
19 90.8% Mozabite + 9.2% Georgians (Behar) @ 2.63
20 90.3% Mozabite + 9.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
At least half of it might be actual SSA.
And what does southern means here please
walid
02-28-2020, 01:58 PM
The model in the OP says 7% Mesolithic SS.
Mesolithic is ancient isnt?
Mesolithic is ancient isnt?
Those were black people anyway. Nothing Europoid about them in the slightest.
And what does southern means here please
Some kind of Levantine or Arabian.
walid
02-28-2020, 03:01 PM
Are the Southeast european and Sephardic ancestry in FTDNA results might be recent or old?
Adamastor
02-28-2020, 04:18 PM
Those were black people anyway. Nothing Europoid about them in the slightest.
Even Ibero-Maurusians probably looked very non-white, so even if it's not SSA it doesn't mean it's white DNA either. It's closer to West African DNA than to Natufian, for example. Probably closer to Basal Eurasian than to West African, but stll some kind of ''intermediary''.
walid
02-29-2020, 12:24 PM
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Your results seems normal for Central Moroccan as far as I've seen at Harappaworld. Are most Central Moroccan results look like mix of Northern & Southern Moroccan? Because I've seen that "moroccan_s" has 30% SSA, while "moroccan_n" has only 18% at Harappaworld. And your results(especially SSA) looks between them.
Btw, nice results :o :thumb001:
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