FTDNA Upcoming update

[waam]

https://dna-explained.com/2020/02/28/sneak-preview-familytreednas-myorigins-version-3-0/


Thursday afternoon at RootsTech, Dr. Paul Maier, Population Geneticist for Family Tree DNA presented a sneak peek at their ethnicity product, myOrigins 3.0.

I’m glad to be out from under non-disclosure now so I can talk about version 3, as this update promises to be amazing in more ways than one.

Dr. Maier provided the following information.

More Populations

https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-2.png?resize=768%2C428&ssl=1
MyOrigins 2, the current version utilized 24 different populations.

https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-3-pops.png?resize=768%2C415&ssl=1
MyOrigins 3, the upcoming version will utilize 90 populations. The coverage has increased dramatically.

https://i1.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-3-Americas.png?resize=768%2C454&ssl=1

For example, the Americas increased from 2 populations in the current version to 9 in the new version.

[Lucas]

https://dna-explained.com/2020/02/28/sneak-preview-familytreednas-myorigins-version-3-0/

At least, we, FTDNA customers will have similar breakdown as in other companies:)

I see even Polish component, but I'm afraid it could be Ashkenazi...
Anyway I see also Baltic, Belarus-Ukrainian, Hungarian, Alpine, Irish among new ones.

[Leto]

At least, we, FTDNA customers will have similar breakdown as in other companies:)

I see even Polish component, but I'm afraid it could be Ashkenazi...
Anyway I see also Baltic, Belarus-Ukrainian, Hungarian, Alpine, Irish among new ones.
Your wife probably won't see her MyOrigins 2.0 :D

[nittionia]

Finally :D

[waam]

At least, we, FTDNA customers will have similar breakdown as in other companies:)

I see even Polish component, but I'm afraid it could be Ashkenazi...
Anyway I see also Baltic, Belarus-Ukrainian, Hungarian, Alpine, Irish among new ones.

Yeah it's about time they updated it actually. They said there would be 4 total Jewish populations which actually don't appeal to me that much because I would much rather have them refine their current Levantine among other MENA populations and have it be broken down that way instead of just assigning me with their new Mizrahi population.

[Ion Basescul]

Having a separate Hungarian component will result in a mess for Romanians and everyone around Hungarians really.
Having a separate Central European component will make a mess out of the results of Hungarians.
It would have been easier to just throw Hungarians under Central Europe. They are not that different from Slovaks for example.

[Jana]

Easy to see it will be poor, downgrading to MyHeritage level.

[Lucas]

Easy to see it will be poor, downgrading to MyHeritage level.

No. It will be more pops than 23&me has. https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-23andMe-Reference-Populations-Regions

Our regional populations are based on reference datasets representing 45 populations.

Certainly it will be better to have 90 than 45.

[Jana]

No. It will be more pops than 23&me has. https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-23andMe-Reference-Populations-Regions

Certainly it will be better to have 90 than 45.

But I bet my parents will end up as Hungary + little but Italy/Greece. And that will confuse people. It's horrible idea to use such mixed populations as Central Europeans for references.

[waam]

No. It will be more pops than 23&me has. https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-23andMe-Reference-Populations-Regions


Certainly it will be better to have 90 than 45.

Yeah but on the other hand when you have that many populations there's more room for overlapping communities which will probably skew a lot of people's results. So I can definitely see the validity in arguing it's not necessarily for the better.

[Lucas]

But I bet my parents will end up as Hungary + little but Italy/Greece. And that will confuse people. It's horrible idea to use such mixed populations as Central Europeans for references.

Yep, Croats will end up as Hungarians + Balkans (this cluster also is visible) with some Italy for Dalmatians. I agree...

[Leto]

I have 5 different kits (me, my parents, my brother-in-law and an unrelated man), I'm excited to see the update. Hopefully they won't mess up Eastern Europe because on MyHeritage it's frankly a mess (Eastern Euro, Baltic, Balkan).

[Nurzat]

Eastern Euro 41%
- East Slavic 17%
- Baltic 16%
- West Slavic 8%

Western Euro 11%
- Irish 11%

Southern Euro 48%
- Greek & Balkan 40%
- Italian 8%


funnily no non-Euro or Oriental scores, which I usually get. on Geneplaza or something like that I had 11% Tajik, nothing like that picked up here (can Irish and Tajik be confused/similar? xD)

[Zoro]

Eastern Euro 41%
- East Slavic 17%
- Baltic 16%
- West Slavic 8%

Western Euro 11%
- Irish 11%

Southern Euro 48%
- Greek & Balkan 40%
- Italian 8%


funnily no non-Euro or Oriental scores, which I usually get. on Geneplaza or something like that I had 11% Tajik, nothing like that picked up here (can Irish and Tajik be confused/similar? xD)

I’m not speaking for Geneplaza but imo since Geneplazo goes back 5000 years it’s probably picking up on common ancestor of Tajiks and Slavs or something like that but not Irish

[Dušan]

Seems they are more precize with Chromosome Painting percentages.

Southern Europe 51.3%
Eastern Europe 48.7%



Origin 3.0

Southern Europe 51%
Eastern Europe 50%
101% :D

[Nurzat]

...

didn't notice the chr painting, thanks for the hint:

Southern Europe 48.5%
Eastern Europe 24.3%
Baltic 16%
Western Europe 11.2% (Ireland)

[VikLevaPatel]

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