Origin of R1b>BY611>Z2705?

[Illyrius]

Excuse me if this has been documented earlier on here but I felt like making a thread of this kind so we can have a discussion about the origin of this Albanian and Greek marker
Where does it hail from
Is it really ancient Indo European or more recent.

[vbnetkhio]

Excuse me if this has been documented earlier on here but I felt like making a thread of this kind so we can have a discussion about the origin of this Albanian and Greek marker
Where does it hail from
Is it really ancient Indo European or more recent.

Balkan offshoot of Corded Ware

[Illyrius]

Balkan offshoot of Corded Ware

I see.
What about J2b2

[vbnetkhio]

I see.
What about J2b2

the same

[Illyrius]

the same

EV 13?

[vbnetkhio]

EV 13?

The same.

just kidding , it's probably from neolithic farmers

[Illyrius]

The same.

just kidding , it's probably from neolithic farmers

Isn't EV 13 of moorish or northern african invaders?

[vbnetkhio]

Isn't EV 13 of moorish or northern african invaders?

noo it split from the North Africans long ago, a 6000 year old E1b-L618 sample was found in Croatia. and E1b-L618 is the father haplogroup of E-V13

[Illyrius]

noo it split from the North Africans long ago, a 6000 year old E1b-L618 sample was found in Croatia. and E1b-L618 is the father haplogroup of E-V13

I see

What about basal R
Was basal R paleo-siberian turkic?

[Daos777]

The same.

just kidding , it's probably from neolithic farmers


Lol it was almost non existent among Neolithic farmers though.

[vbnetkhio]

I see

What about basal R
Was basal R paleo-siberian turkic?

it was a race of it's own, neither white nor asian, you can't even imagine how they looked like and what their language was like.
Turks are some ching chongs who came there 10,000 years later.

[vbnetkhio]

Lol it was almost non existent among Neolithic farmers though.

maybe not actual E-V13 , but it's sister subclades were typical for the farmers in Hungary and the surroundings:

'Cucuteni-Trypillian Culture' sample(6000-5600 ybp) confirmed E-M78, found close to the Ukrainian Carpathians.
'Sopot Culture' sample(7000-6800 ybp) confirmed E-M78, found in Hungary.
'Lengyel Culture' sample(6780-6700 ybp) confirmed E-L618, found in Hungary.
'Cardium Pottery Culture' sample(7600-7470 ybp) confirmed E-L618, found in Croatia.

E-V13 must have been in this area too. it just had many sister subclades which went (almost) extinct in bottleneck effects, and only E-v13 survived in larger numbers to this day.