Serbian to be mandatory subject in Montenegrin schools

[poiuytrewq0987]

This was specified by the Montenegrin government and the opposition in their political agreement reached on Monday.

The text of the agreement on issues regarding Montenegro's European integration, which was harmonized between Prime Minister Igor Lukšić and the opposition and posted on the Montenegrin government website, notes that the government would initiate changes to the Law on Education.

The document also states that the Ministry of Education would draw up a regulation with regard to the unique educational program.

According to the release, in the curriculum, the Ministry will envisage education in Serbian and classes of the Serbian language as a mandatory subject, in addition to Montenegrin language, as part of the unique educational process.

The latest census in Montenegro showed that a 43 per cent majority of citizens speak Serbian.

Lukšić and opposition representatives reached an agreement on Monday with regard to the usage of Serbian in Montenegrin schools and an easier way to obtaining citizenship. The agreement on these matters was the opposition's condition for providing a two-third majority in the parliament which is necessary for the adoption of the electoral law.

Lukšić said that the agreement is in keeping with the Constitutional provision according to which Montenegrin is the official language in the country, but it also takes into account the fact that a majority of Montenegrin citizens speak Serbian.

He assessed that the agreement with the opposition constitutes a big step toward creating conditions for the EU to grant Montenegro the date of initiation of accession talks.

The adoption of the electoral law is Brussels' first condition for Montenegro to obtain the date of talks on full EU membership.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=08&dd=16&nav_id=75948

[Canute]

So this is kind of like if Spanish was mandatory in American schools?

[The Ripper]

So this is kind of like if Spanish was mandatory in American schools?

More like if British English was mandatory in your schools. :coffee:

[Guapo]

only 43%? Don't believe anything coming from Monenigger's mouth

[Monolith]

I hear Montenegrins are currently in the process of standardizing their language. Supposedly, it's dialectal basis will be old ijekavian, a somewhat archaic subdialect of štokavian.

[Storm 1995]

Montenegrins are slowly emancipating themselves from Serbianism, the Serb identity. This move is also a step in this direction. By making Serbian mandatory subject in schools, they are implicitly declaring themselves to be separate from Serbs.

And this is wise for them, because "Serb" is not a nation, but a psychiatric diagnosis. Renouncing "Serb" identity, Serb history, Serb anything means a step back into mental sanity, into common, normal humanity. From degenaracy into health.

[Turkophagos]

"Serbian" language, as opposed to "Montenegrin" language???

LMAO

[Guapo]

Montenegrins are slowly emancipating themselves from Serbianism, the Serb identity. This move is also a step in this direction. By making Serbian mandatory subject in schools, they are implicitly declaring themselves to be separate from Serbs.

And this is wise for them, because "Serb" is not a nation, but a psychiatric diagnosis. Renouncing "Serb" identity, Serb history, Serb anything means a step back into mental sanity, into common, normal humanity. From degenaracy into health.

1000 years history that nobody has heard of lmao.

[Monolith]

"Serbian" language, as opposed to "Montenegrin" language???

LMAO
Currently, Montenegrins call their language 'Serbian with ijekavian pronounciation' since it basically shares all features with Serbian (ekavian pronounciation).

I suppose they want to move their standard language one step away from Serbian by standardizing it on a more distant variety of štokavian.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Currently, Montenegrins call their language 'Serbian with ijekavian pronounciation' since it basically shares all features with Serbian (ekavian pronounciation).

I suppose they want to move their standard language one step away from Serbian by standardizing it on a more distant variety of štokavian.

Still part of the SerboCroatian family thus Yugoslav. Djuanovic is a faggot anyhow. :coffee:

[songirrah]

"Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle (...) If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second."
~Josip Broz Tito to Joseph Stalin

Oh Tito you sly dog.

[Monolith]

Still part of the SerboCroatian family thus Yugoslav. Djuanovic is a faggot anyhow. :coffee:
You're reading wikipedia too much. It's called Central-South Slavic diasystem.

[poiuytrewq0987]

You're reading wikipedia too much. It's called Central-South Slavic diasystem.

:rofl:

[Monolith]

SC is a dinosaur term, and is becoming even more so with the development of a separate Montenegrin standard, so a more precise alternative emerged.

[poiuytrewq0987]

SC is a dinosaur term, and is becoming even more so with the development of a separate Montenegrin standard, so a more precise alternative emerged.

It's not a dinosaur term, it's still the right term to describe the language reality in Yugoslavia. You just want to detach from that reality and become like Catalans. :coffee:

[Storm 1995]

1000 years history that nobody has heard of lmao.

You think anyone in the world cares about your "history" either? Your battles, "sufferings" and similar crap? Nobody - outside of Serbia - cares about that, apart from few internet-addicts and psychiatric patients who fell ill with this psychiatric diagnosis called "Serb".

Serbia has one of the lowest export ratios in Europe today, because it is unable to produce any goods. The only export "good" it has is its (allegedly!) glorious history. But that hasn't much of a market value...

[poiuytrewq0987]

You think anyone in the world cares about your "history" either? Your battles, "sufferings" and similar crap? Nobody - outside of Serbia - cares about that, apart from few internet-addicts and psychiatric patients who fell ill with this psychiatric diagnosis called "Serb".

Serbia has one of the lowest export ratios in Europe today, because it is unable to produce any goods. The only export "good" it has is its (allegedly!) glorious history. But that hasn't much of a market value...

That's just not true, Croatia is only doing better economically because the NATO didn't bomb every single factory you had and set you back economically by 30 years.

[Storm 1995]

That's just not true, Croatia is only doing better economically because the NATO didn't bomb every single factory you had and set you back economically by 30 years.

Rubbish. NATO didn't bomb every single factory in Serbia, only some of them. And even in those cases it wasn't such a total damage, as to halt any production.

Again spreading disinformation, in the typical Serbie-fashion.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Rubbish. NATO didn't bomb every single factory in Serbia, only some of them. And even in those cases it wasn't such a total damage, as to halt any production.

Again spreading disinformation, in the typical Serbie-fashion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugos lavia#The_Post-War_Regime

[Turkophagos]

Currently, Montenegrins call their language 'Serbian with ijekavian pronounciation' since it basically shares all features with Serbian (ekavian pronounciation).

I suppose they want to move their standard language one step away from Serbian by standardizing it on a more distant variety of štokavian.


Have you Yugos ever heard the word "dialect"?

[Monolith]

It's not a dinosaur term, it's still the right term to describe the language reality in Yugoslavia. You just want to detach from that reality and become like Catalans. :coffee:
It was indeed used in Yugoslavia, hence it is anachronistic to use it today. Croats and Serbs can't monopolize a language system that other ethnic groups (Bosniaks, Montenegrins) also use natively. SC has two meanings anyway: 1) now defunct standard language of ex-Yugoslavia 2) umbrella term encompassing all Central-South Slavic dialects. The former fell out of use and the latter is still used, albeit it is being replaced with BC(M)S and CSS.

Have you Yugos ever heard the word "dialect"?
I would't know about Yugos, but we're familiar with the word here in Croatia. This new version of Montenegrin won't be a separate dialect though, but a separate standard register of štokavian.

[poiuytrewq0987]

I recommend the Republics of Southern Istria and Dalmatia-Slavonia be created. They are clearly separate peoples, non-Croats.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Croatian_dialects.PNG

[Guapo]

I recommend the Republics of Southern Istria and Dalmatia-Slavonia be created. They are clearly separate peoples, non-Croats.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Croatian_dialects.PNG

Kaikavians are Slovenes, the rest are catholicized Serbs anyway.

[boogeyman]

Speak kaj or die.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Speak kaj or die.

So you are telling 2/3 of the Croatian population to die? I agree with you. :)

[boogeyman]

Sacrificing 2/3 of Croats to get rid of all Serbs once and for all... Sounds tempting. :laugh:

[poiuytrewq0987]

Sacrificing 2/3 of Croats to get rid of all Serbs once and for all... Sounds tempting. :laugh:

Why would you want us dead? We are BROTHERS for goodness' sake!

[boogeyman]

Get a sense of humor.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Get a sense of humor.

My sense of humor is working just fine my South Slavic brother. :thumb001:

[Guapo]

speak Čak or daj.

[Monolith]

I recommend the Republics of Southern Istria and Dalmatia-Slavonia be created. They are clearly separate peoples, non-Croats.

If language was the ultimate criterion for the emergence of national identity then it wouldn't be unreasonable to say that, having that Croatian dialects are basically languages of their own, with different case systems, tense systems, word endings, accentuation, prosody etc. But reality is rarely that simple.

As such, Croatian language is not a genetic term, but a cultural/traditional one. Regardless of the significant differences between Croatian vernaculars, their speakers call themselves Croats and their respective dialects/languages Croatian. And that's where the story ends.

Kaikavians are Slovenes, the rest are catholicized Serbs anyway.
Interogatory pronoun 'kaj' aside, there are strong isoglosses between kajkavian and Slovene.

[Turkophagos]

I would't know about Yugos, ...


So, you're not southern (yugo) slavs now or what?

[Monolith]

So, you're not southern (yugo) slavs now or what?
Sure, I'm a southern Slav. The two words are not synonymous and 'Yugoslav' is still a recognized ethnic group. According to 2001 Census, there were 176 Yugoslavs in Croatia.

[Mordid]

Yugo in South Slavic languages mean ''South''.

[Turkophagos]

Yugo in South Slavic languages mean ''South''.

no shit

[Monolith]

Yugo in South Slavic languages mean ''South''.
It doesn't. 'Jug' is South. 'Jugo' is a maritime term for 'Sirocco'.

[Guapo]

Jugoslav is a male name, Jugovich is a surname, ftw.

[Mordid]

Weird language, indeed..

[Thundermark]

I think that the name for the language should be "Dukljanski" because Duklja is the strongest argument for the ethnic specificity of Montenegrin Slavs. Montenegro is pretty much a modern term...

[Guapo]

I think that the name for the language should be "Dukljanski" because Duklja is the strongest argument for the ethnic specificity of Montenegrin Slavs. Montenegro is pretty much a modern term...

More like Oostashki.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Rename Montenegro to Former Yugoslav Republic of Montenegro. :coffee:

[Storm 1995]

Rename Montenegro to Former Yugoslav Republic of Montenegro. :coffee:

Rename Serbia to Former Ottoman Pashalik of Belgrade. :biggrin:

[Guapo]

Rename Serbia to Forme Ottoman Pashalik of Belgrade. :biggrin:

Rename Croatia to SuckingGermano-Huncockforthousandsofyears :rotfl:

[Storm 1995]

Rename Croatia to SuckingGermano-Huncockforthousandsofyears :rotfl:

So Croatia is, after all, thousands of years old, according to you? :p