Turk or Azeri from Van

[harutsafaryan07]

in Dodecad K12b


Distance to: Van
5.19545956 Turkmen_Iraq
5.47870423 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.56467429 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.90393936 Azerbaijani
6.31784773 Turk_Southeast
6.63643730 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.76564114 Kurd_Sorani
6.97243143 Zaza
8.32956181 Lur_Iran
8.58597112 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.42249967 Iranian_Fars
9.59593143 Iranian
9.59642121 Turk_Central_East
9.80856259 Kurds
10.05000498 Turk_South
10.91202089 Turk_East
11.06160929 Turk_Central_West
11.11637531 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.13333283 Turk_Anatolia
11.37197872 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.93541369 Iran_Central_East
12.21831821 Iran_Khorasan

Singel

Target: Van
Distance: 4.6226% / 4.62258415 | ADC: 2x
73.0 Turkmen_Iraq
27.0 Azerbaijani_Iran

Target: Van
Distance: 4.4673% / 4.46728022 | ADC: 1x
58.6 Turkmen_Iraq
37.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.6 Turk_Southeast

Target: Van
Distance: 3.5298% / 3.52977504 | ADC: 0.5x
54.8 Turkmen_Iraq
25.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.6 Turk_Southeast
2.6 Turkmens
1.0 Sardinian
0.6 French_Basque
0.2 Buryat
0.2 Yukagir

Target: Van
Distance: 1.6189% / 1.61892683 | ADC: 0.25x
39.4 Turkmen_Iraq
24.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
22.6 Kurd
4.8 Turk_Southeast
4.2 Sardinian
3.2 Buryat
1.8 Iranians

[Leto]

Can you add the admixture?

[Oghuz]

Seems like a Azeri Bayat Taypasi result from Azerbaijan or Iraq.

P.S. I meant Iranian Azerbaijan

Bayat exists in Central Republic Azerbaijan as well but this result is more Iranian Azeri type.

[Kyp]

Can you add the admixture?

Caucasus: 36.96
Gedrosian: 23.2
Southwest Asian: 14.11
Atlantic-Med: 11.24
North European: 5.21
Siberian: 3.31
East Asian: 3.1
South Asian: 1.37
Northwest African: 0.70
East African: 0.55
Southeast Asian: 0.17
SSA: 0

[Oghuz]

Iranian Azeris usually score this much Gedrosia ?

If its higher than usual than this could be a result from Khorasan as there is an ancient bayat concentration there around and inside Mashhad.

This is the most famous one in Iran. She is from Khorasan.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/920087400151441408/OI1UnXLK_400x400.jpg

[Kyp]

Iranian Azeris usually score this much Gedrosia ?

If its higher than usual than this could be a result from Khorasan as there is an ancient bayat concentration there around and inside Mashhad.

This is the most famous one in Iran. She is from Khorasan.



23 is a bit higher than average (not much) but as his mixed mode suggest he might be partly kurdish. His Atlantic_Med score is higher than Azeris. So Khorasan would be even less likely. I think the family might be originally Turkmen from Iraq (Gedrosian average 22.7%)

[Nomansman]

Azeri from Urmia/takestan with some russian ancestry:






Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.49
2 Gedrosia 21.14
3 Southwest_Asian 12.57
4 Atlantic_Med 10.03
5 North_European 8.89
6 South_Asian 4.97
7 Siberian 3.48
8 East_African 1.61
9 Northwest_African 1.38
10 East_Asian 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 10
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 10.61
3 Iranians (Behar) 11.2
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 11.22
5 Turks (Behar) 12.13
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.46
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.54
8 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.39
9 Lebanese (Behar) 17.18
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.15
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.3
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.37
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.84
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.86
15 Syrians (Behar) 19.08
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.3
17 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.86
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.33
19 Jordanians (Behar) 21.19
20 Druze (HGDP) 21.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Druze (HGDP) + 46% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.13
2 71.9% Iranians (Behar) + 28.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 4.71
3 69.1% Iranians (Behar) + 30.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.77
4 77.1% Iranians (Behar) + 22.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.88
5 70.1% Iranians (Behar) + 29.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 4.93
6 77.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 22.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.11
7 76.6% Iranians (Behar) + 23.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.14
8 73.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 26.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 5.19
9 77.4% Iranians (Behar) + 22.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 5.2
10 72.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 27.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 5.22
11 84.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 5.3
12 77.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 22.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.3
13 84.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.3% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 5.3
14 78.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 21.3% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.35
15 84.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 5.38
16 81.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.38
17 75.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 24.5% Greek (Dodecad) @ 5.41
18 74.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 25.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.41
19 79.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 20.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 5.41
20 73.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 26.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.44







Azeri whose family lived in Kuwait in 300 years, but great grandfather said his origins is from tabriz, north iran:






Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.72
2 Gedrosia 24.89
3 Southwest_Asian 17.78
4 Atlantic_Med 8.19
5 South_Asian 6.34
6 Sub_Saharan 3.41
7 East_African 2.8
8 North_European 2.57
9 Northwest_African 0.94
10 Siberian 0.73
11 East_Asian 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 9.46
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 12.13
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.19
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 13.38
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.72
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.56
7 Syrians (Behar) 17.88
8 Lebanese (Behar) 18.4
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 19.11
10 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.24
11 Jordanians (Behar) 19.67
12 Turks (Behar) 19.81
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.47
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.85
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 21.16
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.42
17 Palestinian (HGDP) 22.77
18 Druze (HGDP) 23.65
19 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 23.82
20 Armenian (Dodecad) 24.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.1% Iranians (Behar) + 22.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.94
2 69.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 30.3% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.19
3 63.8% Druze (HGDP) + 36.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.57
4 78.2% Iranians (Behar) + 21.8% Egyptans (Behar) @ 5.64
5 71.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 28.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 5.79
6 71.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 28.5% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 5.84
7 67.4% Syrians (Behar) + 32.6% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.9
8 65.1% Jordanians (Behar) + 34.9% Pathan (HGDP) @ 6.14
9 70.7% Syrians (Behar) + 29.3% Makrani (HGDP) @ 6.27
10 72.3% Syrians (Behar) + 27.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 6.28
11 81.3% Iranians (Behar) + 18.7% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 6.31
12 74.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 25.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 6.32
13 69.7% Syrians (Behar) + 30.3% Burusho (HGDP) @ 6.41
14 65.9% Druze (HGDP) + 34.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 6.56
15 72.5% Syrians (Behar) + 27.5% Balochi (HGDP) @ 6.57
16 67% Lebanese (Behar) + 33% Pathan (HGDP) @ 6.59
17 76.4% Iranians (Behar) + 23.6% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 6.64
18 73.4% Iranians (Behar) + 26.6% Jordanians (Behar) @ 6.68
19 71.5% Iranians (Behar) + 28.5% Syrians (Behar) @ 6.78
20 70.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 29.7% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 6.82







TUrkey kurd from Konya:






Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.4
2 Gedrosia 24.38
3 North_European 11.88
4 Southwest_Asian 10.74
5 Atlantic_Med 6.98
6 South_Asian 4.83
7 Northwest_African 2.65
8 Southeast_Asian 1.19
9 Siberian 0.84
10 Sub_Saharan 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.45
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 9.41
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.7
4 Iranians (Behar) 10.11
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 13.63
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.9
7 Turks (Behar) 14.1
8 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.66
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.93
10 Lezgins (Behar) 18.77
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.58
12 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.85
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 20.53
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.55
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.58
16 Lebanese (Behar) 20.71
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.44
18 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 21.46
19 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 21.67
20 Syrians (Behar) 22.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.5
2 87.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.58
3 88.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.62
4 88.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.63
5 89.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 10.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.72
6 88.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.73
7 86.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 13.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.74
8 88.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.77
9 90.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.79
10 88.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.95
11 88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.96
12 90.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.97
13 90.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.99
14 82.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.5% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.07
15 89% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.1
16 87.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.7% German (Dodecad) @ 4.12
17 81.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.17
18 78.4% Iranians (Behar) + 21.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.27
19 89.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 10.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.28
20 85.8% Iranians (Behar) + 14.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.33

[Oghuz]

23 is a bit higher than average (not much) but as his mixed mode suggest he might be partly kurdish. His Atlantic_Med score is higher than Azeris. So Khorasan would be even less likely. I think the family might be originally Turkmen from Iraq (Gedrosian average 22.7%)

The reason I said Bayat is because its one of the largely spread azeri tribe that extends from Khorasan to Iraq (Kirkuk).

I will assume they are most mixed ones as well.

[itilvolga]

Seemed like half Terekeme half Kurd results to me

[Kyp]

Azeri from Urmia/takestan with some russian ancestry:










Distance to: Azeri_Urmia
5.37710889 Azerbaijani
5.63693179 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.04822288 Turk_Southeast
6.69575238 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.86120981 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.56701394 Kurd_Sorani
7.74614743 Turkmen_Iraq
8.57053091 Zaza
8.87200654 Iranian_Fars
8.95872759 Turk_South
9.20789335 Turk_Central_East
9.44661315 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.49765761 Iran_Central_East
9.92857996 Iran_Khorasan
9.93772610 Turk_Central_West
9.94923615 Turk_Anatolia
10.34982125 Lur_Iran
10.81777241 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.86949401 Iranian
11.47143845 Kurd
11.62839198 Turk_Southwest
11.76206615 Turk_East
11.82621241 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.09429204 Iranians
12.11857665 Kurds
12.58144268 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.98122876 Yoruk
13.45002230 Turk_Northwest

[Leto]

TUrkey kurd from Konya:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.4
2 Gedrosia 24.38
3 North_European 11.88
4 Southwest_Asian 10.74
5 Atlantic_Med 6.98
6 South_Asian 4.83
7 Northwest_African 2.65
8 Southeast_Asian 1.19
9 Siberian 0.84
10 Sub_Saharan 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.45
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 9.41
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.7
4 Iranians (Behar) 10.11
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 13.63
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.9
7 Turks (Behar) 14.1
8 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.66
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.93
10 Lezgins (Behar) 18.77
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.58
12 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.85
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 20.53
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.55
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.58
16 Lebanese (Behar) 20.71
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.44
18 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 21.46
19 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 21.67
20 Syrians (Behar) 22.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.5
2 87.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.58
3 88.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.62
4 88.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.63
5 89.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 10.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.72
6 88.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.73
7 86.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 13.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.74
8 88.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.77
9 90.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.79
10 88.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.95
11 88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.96
12 90.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.97
13 90.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.99
14 82.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.5% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.07
15 89% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.1
16 87.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.7% German (Dodecad) @ 4.12
17 81.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.17
18 78.4% Iranians (Behar) + 21.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.27
19 89.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 10.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.28
20 85.8% Iranians (Behar) + 14.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.33
The one you posted on another thread

88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.5

Cool :cool:

Any info on the Y-DNA?

[Kyp]

The reason I said Bayat is because its one of the largely spread azeri tribe that extends from Khorasan to Iraq (Kirkuk).

I will assume they are most mixed ones as well.

They live in western Turkey too. The user Aileron for example. My family too comes from Bayat area in northern Zanjan.

[Nomansman]

The one you posted on another thread

88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.5

Cool :cool:

Any info on the Y-DNA?

Sorry, no. The guy havent predicted his y-dna.

[Kyp]

Seemed like half Terekeme half Kurd results to me

You are right he seems to be Azeri/Kurdish mixed. That would result in Iraqi Turkmen results.

[itilvolga]

You are right he seems to be Azeri/Kurdish mixed. That would result in Iraqi Turkmen results.

If we knew his hometown, it would be easier to guess. But Van and Ağrı Provinces are simply mixed with Kurds, Terekemes and some Armenians so yea, not really an Iraqi Turkmen but most likely a Kurd-Terekeme mutt.

[Oghuz]

The one you posted on another thread

88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.5

Cool :cool:

Any info on the Y-DNA?

J2 or R1a probably ?

[Nomansman]

J2 or R1a probably ?

Well, the owner of the kit was another konya kurd(from the same village even) who got J haplogroup. He might get J as well.


THe owner's results:



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 7.13
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 7.39
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.28
4 Iranians (Behar) 9.62
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 10.48
6 Turks (Behar) 12.64
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.19
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 16.26
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 16.47
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.63
11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 16.84
12 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.06
13 Lebanese (Behar) 17.44
14 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 17.5
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 17.97
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.48
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.6
18 Syrians (Behar) 19.31
19 Druze (HGDP) 21.4
20 Jordanians (Behar) 21.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.64
2 87.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.78
3 88.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.7% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.81
4 88.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.7% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 1.82
5 87.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.6% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
6 87.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.3% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
7 87.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
8 88.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.83
9 88.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.8% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.87
10 88.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.6% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 1.88
11 88.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.88
12 88.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.2% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 1.99
13 85% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 15% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.01
14 88.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 2.04
15 85.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 14.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.07
16 81.4% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.1
17 88.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.7% French (HGDP) @ 2.14
18 87.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.1% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 2.2
19 84.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 15.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.21
20 85.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 14.7% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.26

[Kyp]

The one you posted on another thread

88.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.5

Cool :cool:

Any info on the Y-DNA?

+10N.Euro -> R1a lol

[Babak]

Kurd+Turk mix