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Voskos
03-02-2020, 12:38 PM
Source(unscaled):

Bantu_civilization,-0.0546714,0.0064857,0.0048857,0.0049571,2e-04,0.0027143,0.0006143,0.0038714,-0.0134143,0.0094857,0.0017571,-0.0031,-0.0020429,0.0014286,-0.0038,0.0036857,-0.0026,0.0172,-0.0085,0.0030286,-0.0009429,0.0003714,0.0012143,2e-04,-0.0004571
Persian_incursions,0.0085,0.012,-0.0184,-0.013,-0.0142,-0.0014,9e-04,-0.002,-0.0165,-0.0081,0.0035,7e-04,0.0032,-0.0056,0.0027,0.0203,0.0073,0.002,0.0048,-0.0011,-7e-04,-5e-04,4e-04,-0.0026,-0.0013
Kenyan_runner_marathon,-0.0362,0.0079,-0.004,-0.01355,0.00075,-0.00965,-0.00415,0.00255,0.05235,-0.0476,-0.01035,0.0025,-0.01275,0.0019,0.0156,-0.01775,0.0115,-0.00045,0.0116,-0.00935,0.0013,0.0074,-0.00425,-0.00135,-0.00095
Paeonian_settler,0.0108,0.018,-2e-04,-0.0319,0.0207,-0.0166,-0.0016,-6e-04,0.0226,0.0497,0.0071,0.0099,-0.0212,0.0024,-0.031,-0.0087,0.0186,0.0043,0.0109,-0.0096,-0.0131,0.0094,9e-04,0.0041,-0.0064
Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete,0.01048,0.0168,-0.00482,-0.0291,0.0096,-0.01428,-0.00056,-0.0015,0.00506,0.03282,0.00184,0.01022,-0.0169,-4e-05,-0.0276,-0.00826,0.01334,-0.00098,0.00706,-0.0109,-0.01072,0.00678,-0.00412,-0.00088,-0.00204
Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete,0.0108667,0.017833 3,-0.0022,-0.0274,0.0124667,-0.0151667,-0.001,-0.0023,0.0069333,0.0341,0.0045,0.0028,-0.0157,-0.0020667,-0.0227667,0.0021,0.0106,0.0004667,0.0165,-0.0136333,0.0014333,0.0042,-0.0074667,0.0034667,-0.0068333
Mycenaean_warrior,0.009475,0.0154,-0.00215,-0.020025,0.00705,-0.009725,-0.000225,-0.000925,0.00265,0.025975,0.0034,0.0113,-0.0086,-0.00045,-0.012075,-0.0074,0.016125,0.00285,0.0098,-0.003175,-0.0047,0.00015,-0.00535,0.00095,-6e-04
Mountain_Greek_neolithic,0.0104,0.0179,-3e-04,-0.0327,0.0186,-0.0183,-0.0018,-0.0017,0.0191,0.0495,0.0023,0.0091,-0.0129,-0.0055,-0.0346,-0.0032,0.0307,0.0031,0.0032,-0.0108,-0.0098,0.0114,3e-04,0.0011,-0.0036
Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos,0.01048,0.01 74,-0.00214,-0.02988,0.0133,-0.01494,-7e-04,-0.00222,0.01238,0.03988,0.0041,0.00834,-0.01624,-0.00056,-0.02602,-0.00652,0.01424,0.00042,0.00828,-0.01108,-0.01458,0.00058,-0.00348,-0.00058,-0.00398
Ottoman_Turkish,0.00695,-0.0073,0.00485,-0.00235,-0.014,-0.0048,0.00125,0.00035,-0.00495,-0.00665,-0.00545,-0.00425,-0.00385,-0.0064,0.00385,0,0.00595,7e-04,-0.0015,-3e-04,-0.0072,-0.00035,-0.0078,-0.00145,3e-04
Thracian_settler,0.0111,0.0155,0.0019,-0.0158,0.0097,-0.0081,0.0018,-6e-04,0.0038,0.0176,-9e-04,0.0038,-0.0094,-0.0022,-0.0111,-0.0011,0.0105,0.0055,0.005,-0.0118,-0.005,0.0038,-0.0064,0.0029,-0.0074
Egyptian_settler,0.0036,0.0157,-0.0147,-0.0316,0,-0.0218,-0.0099,-0.0036,0.0237,0.0041,0.0095,-0.0132,0.0231,-0.003,0.0035,-0.0118,-0.0185,0.0058,-0.004,-2e-04,-0.0037,0.0067,-0.0102,0.0044,-0.005
Adriatic_illyrian_coast,0.0105,0.0146,0.0042,-0.005,0.0106,-0.0039,-0.0014,-6e-04,0.0034,0.0082,0.0028,0.008,-0.0155,-0.0072,-0.0017,-0.0066,0.0011,-0.0028,0.0052,0.0026,4e-04,-0.0015,0.0026,-0.0013,-0.0145
Illyrian_settler,0.0116,0.0149,0.009,-0.005,0.0081,-0.0021,-0.0027,0.0031,0.0018,0.0159,0.0011,0.0078,-0.0142,-0.001,-0.0044,-0.0064,-0.005,0.0039,0.0044,-0.0114,-0.0015,0.0041,0.0012,0.0021,0.0028
Nomad_Kazak_Tengri,0.00594,-0.01938,0.01336,0.00318,-0.0164,-0.00356,0.00536,0.0045,-0.00434,-0.00418,-0.0098,-0.00066,-0.00144,-0.0109,0.00464,0.00326,-0.0019,-0.00134,0.00298,0.00282,-0.01438,5e-04,-0.0074,0.00312,-0.00452
Armenian_dynasty,0.0096,0.01265,-0.0169,-0.0134,-0.01495,-0.00145,0.0047,-0.0033,-0.0294,-0.01245,0.00295,0.0059,-0.00855,0.00385,0.00595,5e-05,0.0078,-1e-04,-0.00245,-8e-04,0.00795,-0.00625,0.00115,-0.00045,-2e-04
Berber_settler,-0.0024556,0.0136944,-0.0021444,-0.0236778,0.0090111,-0.0126222,-0.0133556,0.0022889,0.0334556,0.01635,0.0024667,-0.0029278,0.0132056,-0.0117167,0.0103833,-0.01275,0.0001167,-0.0183833,-0.0371722,0.0062833,-0.0134889,-0.0326944,0.0228278,-0.0036944,0.0053167
Sklavenoi,0.011525,0.011375,0.018475,0.0204,0.0106 ,0.00795,0.004575,0.005625,-0.001975,-0.01415,-0.00115,-0.00485,0.01265,0.014225,-0.00965,0.001575,0.0028,7e-04,0.002025,5e-04,-0.003,-0.00655,0.00475,-0.00395,-0.00115
Phoenician_settler,0.0066667,0.0145667,-0.0159,-0.0353,-0.0018333,-0.0171,-0.0046333,-0.0057667,0.0164667,0.0041333,0.0097,-0.0131333,0.0279333,-0.0006333,-0.0023,0.0172667,0.0014,8e-04,-0.0024333,0.0136667,0.0040667,0.0094667,-0.0031333,0.0035333,-0.0059333
Chinese_merchant_silk_road,0.0018182,-0.0443818,-0.0022,-0.0201727,0.0253727,0.0134273,0.0012364,-0.0020818,-0.0073455,-0.0017091,-0.0305364,-0.0047091,0.0048909,-0.0058909,-0.0031909,0.0009455,0.0013455,-0.0006818,-0.0016273,-0.0081727,0.0098091,0.0056273,0.0114455,-0.0010727,-0.0018636
Siberian_tribe,0.00419,-0.04004,0.04131,0.00074,-0.05181,-0.03163,0.01213,0.01878,0.0152,0.00705,0.06334,0.0 0628,-0.00274,-0.01901,-0.01619,-0.0093,-0.00084,0.01059,0.02135,-0.00068,0.03457,-0.00962,0.02727,0.00033,0.01132

Kaspias
03-02-2020, 01:01 PM
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 1.2956% / 0.01295577
30.6 Persian_incursions
27.8 Sklavenoi
18.2 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
16.8 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
3.6 Phoenician_settler
1.8 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
1.2 Siberian_tribe

Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 0.9847% / 0.00984717
31.2 Persian_incursions
28.6 Sklavenoi
10.2 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
9.8 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
8.8 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
4.4 Berber_settler
4.4 Paeonian_settler
1.8 Phoenician_settler
0.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road



Target: Kaspias
Distance: 1.3614% / 0.01361407 | ADC: 0.25x
28.6 Persian_incursions
25.4 Sklavenoi
17.2 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
9.4 Thracian_settler
8.6 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
7.0 Mycenaean_warrior
3.6 Phoenician_settler
0.2 Adriatic_illyrian_coast

Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 1.0500% / 0.01049973 | ADC: 0.25x
26.4 Persian_incursions
25.8 Sklavenoi
15.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
14.0 Ottoman_Turkish
10.2 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
3.4 Phoenician_settler
2.8 Illyrian_settler
1.8 Berber_settler



Target: Kaspias
Distance: 1.6483% / 0.01648344 | ADC: 0.5x
33.6 Thracian_settler
25.2 Persian_incursions
21.2 Ottoman_Turkish
19.8 Sklavenoi
0.2 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri

Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 1.3225% / 0.01322508 | ADC: 0.5x
23.2 Persian_incursions
20.6 Sklavenoi
20.6 Thracian_settler
19.0 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
14.8 Ottoman_Turkish
1.8 Phoenician_settler




Distance to: Kaspias
0.03352007 Ottoman_Turkish
0.03658046 Thracian_settler
0.03761276 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.03842642 Persian_incursions
0.04068550 Illyrian_settler
0.04356243 Mycenaean_warrior
0.04494736 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.04668309 Sklavenoi
0.05063294 Armenian_dynasty
0.05830378 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
0.06038817 Phoenician_settler
0.06096313 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
0.06613143 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
0.07066760 Egyptian_settler
0.07245648 Bantu_civilization
0.07757317 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.08002568 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
0.08160558 Paeonian_settler
0.08904940 Berber_settler
0.09899508 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.12557420 Siberian_tribe

Distance to: Kaspias_Cousin
0.03316233 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.03364201 Ottoman_Turkish
0.03550225 Thracian_settler
0.03629669 Illyrian_settler
0.03850208 Persian_incursions
0.04242058 Mycenaean_warrior
0.04454757 Sklavenoi
0.04711404 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.04922342 Armenian_dynasty
0.05826651 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
0.05976032 Phoenician_settler
0.05993295 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
0.06452935 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
0.06897659 Egyptian_settler
0.07158967 Bantu_civilization
0.07540706 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.07945986 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
0.08012160 Paeonian_settler
0.08238480 Berber_settler
0.09707603 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.12822672 Siberian_tribe

SUPREEEEEME
03-02-2020, 01:06 PM
Target: SUPREEEEEME
Distance: 1.3089% / 0.01308919
41.0 Illyrian_settler
17.0 Egyptian_settler
15.2 Armenian_dynasty
13.4 Berber_settler
9.4 Sklavenoi
4.0 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Target: SUPREEEEEME
Distance: 1.3259% / 0.01325930 | ADC: 0.25x
45.4 Illyrian_settler
16.8 Egyptian_settler
14.4 Armenian_dynasty
12.4 Berber_settler
8.4 Sklavenoi
2.6 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Impaler
03-02-2020, 01:18 PM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.1314% / 0.01131404
31.8 Sklavenoi
25.4 Illyrian_settler
16.6 Persian_incursions
9.6 Mycenaean_warrior
6.2 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
4.0 Berber_settler
2.8 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
1.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
1.2 Paeonian_settler
1.0 Bantu_civilization
0.2 Kenyan_runner_marathon

Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.1590% / 0.01158992 | ADC: 0.25x
31.2 Sklavenoi
29.2 Illyrian_settler
15.6 Persian_incursions
12.2 Mycenaean_warrior
5.6 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
3.0 Berber_settler
3.0 Thracian_settler
0.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road


Distance to: Impaler
0.02987357 Illyrian_settler
0.03340868 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.03484839 Thracian_settler
0.03689397 Ottoman_Turkish
0.04027363 Sklavenoi
0.04238125 Mycenaean_warrior
0.04627580 Persian_incursions
0.04825579 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.05307236 Armenian_dynasty
0.05948304 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
0.06030641 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
0.06487084 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
0.06707272 Phoenician_settler
0.06924688 Egyptian_settler
0.07041064 Bantu_civilization
0.07603989 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.07994229 Paeonian_settler
0.08069157 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
0.08354956 Berber_settler
0.09673249 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.12994618 Siberian_tribe

Hapanuwa
03-02-2020, 01:20 PM
Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 1.0312% / 0.01031192
30.2 Armenian_dynasty
23.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
12.6 Phoenician_settler
8.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
8.0 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
7.2 Sklavenoi
5.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
2.4 Siberian_tribe
1.2 Illyrian_settler
0.2 Bantu_civilization
0.2 Persian_incursions

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 1.0855% / 0.01085493 | ADC: 0.25x
28.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
27.2 Armenian_dynasty
11.4 Phoenician_settler
8.6 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
6.4 Illyrian_settler
5.2 Persian_incursions
4.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
3.8 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
3.8 Sklavenoi
0.8 Siberian_tribe

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 1.3810% / 0.01380962 | ADC: 0.5x
39.2 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
17.0 Persian_incursions
16.0 Armenian_dynasty
16.0 Ottoman_Turkish
6.0 Illyrian_settler
5.2 Phoenician_settler
0.6 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

What's the source/model for Adriatic_illyrian_coast? Albanian?

Pedro Ruben
03-02-2020, 01:26 PM
Target: Pedro
Distance: 1.8634% / 0.01863424
52.2 Illyrian_settler
16.0 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
13.8 Berber_settler
7.2 Sklavenoi
3.8 Egyptian_settler
3.0 Kenyan_runner_marathon
2.2 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
1.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Voskos
03-02-2020, 01:27 PM
What's the source/model for Adriatic_illyrian_coast? Albanian?

HRV_EBA (early bronze age croatia).

Bosniensis
03-02-2020, 01:29 PM
HRV_EBA (early bronze age croatia).

There was no Illyrians in Bronze Age Dalmatia.

Illyrians came to Western Balkans in Iron Age.

walid
03-02-2020, 01:39 PM
Target: walid
Distance: 1.0793% / 0.01079284
89.2 Berber_settler
4.6 Egyptian_settler
3.8 Phoenician_settler
1.8 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.6 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Korialstrasz
03-02-2020, 02:02 PM
Distance: 2.5970% / 0.02596966 | ADC: 0.25x
47.0 Armenian_dynasty
26.2 Illyrian_settler
18.8 Sklavenoi
3.0 Kenyan_runner_marathon
2.4 Ottoman_Turkish
1.4 Siberian_tribe
1.2 Egyptian_settler

andre
03-02-2020, 02:24 PM
Target: Andrei
Distance: 1.9959% / 0.01995934 | ADC: 1x
58.4 Illyrian_settler
41.6 Sklavenoi

Target: Andrei
Distance: 1.8980% / 0.01897991 | ADC: 0.5x
51.8 Illyrian_settler
44.4 Sklavenoi
3.8 Egyptian_settler

Target: Andrei
Distance: 1.7911% / 0.01791101 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Sklavenoi
37.6 Illyrian_settler
7.6 Egyptian_settler
7.2 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete

Gallop
03-02-2020, 02:46 PM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 2.5460% / 0.02546009

59.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
24.0 Illyrian_settler
11.4 Berber_settler
2.6 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
1.4 Kenyan_runner_marathon
1.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road


Distance to: Gallop
0.02841179 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.03456472 Illyrian_settler
0.04386593 Thracian_settler
0.05120660 Mycenaean_warrior
0.05258873 Ottoman_Turkish
0.06097353 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.06210967 Sklavenoi
0.06368504 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
0.06606973 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
0.06758787 Persian_incursions
0.06774561 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
0.07118592 Armenian_dynasty
0.07449685 Egyptian_settler
0.07788538 Berber_settler
0.07834274 Phoenician_settler
0.07998054 Bantu_civilization
0.07999087 Paeonian_settler
0.08205535 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
0.08345629 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.09723289 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.13401822 Siberian_tribe

Jana
03-02-2020, 02:55 PM
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 1.9789% / 0.01978907 | ADC: 0.25x

68.2 Sklavenoi
13.4 Mycenaean_warrior
8.2 Persian_incursions
7.2 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
3.0 Adriatic_illyrian_coast

Target: Stears
Distance: 1.2073% / 0.01207256 | ADC: 0.25x

57.4 Sklavenoi
30.8 Illyrian_settler
5.6 Ottoman_Turkish
4.2 Armenian_dynasty
1.2 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Cool calc Voskos :)

lacreme
03-02-2020, 02:58 PM
My friend's results (Greek)

Target: Chris
Distance: 0.8224% / 0.00822448
26.4 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
21.2 Sklavenoi
16.4 Persian_incursions
14.8 Thracian_settler
8.2 Armenian_dynasty
5.6 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
4.4 Berber_settler
1.6 Egyptian_settler
1.4 Illyrian_settler

Target: Chris
Distance: 0.9541% / 0.00954107 | ADC: 0.25x
40.0 Thracian_settler
18.2 Persian_incursions
15.8 Sklavenoi
13.0 Mycenaean_warrior
5.4 Berber_settler
2.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
2.2 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
1.8 Illyrian_settler
0.6 Armenian_dynasty
0.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.1846% / 0.01184575 | ADC: 0.5x
57.4 Thracian_settler
16.2 Persian_incursions
11.2 Sklavenoi
6.2 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
4.0 Mycenaean_warrior
2.4 Ottoman_Turkish
1.8 Berber_settler
0.8 Illyrian_settler

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.7691% / 0.01769070 | ADC: 1x
77.0 Thracian_settler
9.8 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
8.0 Persian_incursions
5.2 Ottoman_Turkish

WeirdLookingFellow
03-02-2020, 03:16 PM
Cool

Target: Fellow
Distance: 1.4328% / 0.01432845 | ADC: 0.5x
46.4 Sklavenoi
20.8 Thracian_settler
16.8 Illyrian_settler
16.0 Adriatic_illyrian_coast

Target: Fellow
Distance: 1.3846% / 0.01384624 | ADC: 0.25x
48.4 Sklavenoi
16.2 Thracian_settler
15.0 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
12.6 Illyrian_settler
6.6 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
1.0 Bantu_civilization
0.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Target: Fellow
Distance: 1.3483% / 0.01348261
50.6 Sklavenoi
17.2 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
13.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
10.6 Illyrian_settler
2.6 Bantu_civilization
2.2 Armenian_dynasty
1.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
1.4 Paeonian_settler

17571imre
03-02-2020, 03:18 PM
Target: MH
Distance: 0.8895% / 0.00889524 | ADC: 0.25x

50.2 Sklavenoi
37.0 Illyrian_settler
7.4 Thracian_settler
2.6 Berber_settler
2.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.4 Persian_incursions

my mothers:

Target: CB
Distance: 1.6073% / 0.01607302 | ADC: 0.25x

65.4 Sklavenoi
12.4 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
12.0 Illyrian_settler
7.4 Persian_incursions
2.4 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.4 Ottoman_Turkish

Cumansky
03-02-2020, 04:30 PM
Target: Cumansky_ОчеBulgar_alzib
Distance: 3.9713% / 0.03971335
31.4 NOR_N_HG:Steigen
26.0 Mycenaean_warrior
17.8 Ottoman_Turkish
5.6 Bantu_civilization
4.8 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
4.2 Persian_incursions
4.2 Illyrian_settler
3.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
2.2 Berber_settler


NOR_N_HG:Steigen,0.0114,0.0074,0.0416,0.0587,0.017 4,0.0239,-0.0002,0.0026,0.0111,-0.0299,0.0047,-0.0124,0.0215,-0.0176,0.0192,0.0333,0.0017,0.0009,-0.0016,0.0243,0.02,0.0081,-0.0073,-0.0505,0.0046

Ion Basescul
03-02-2020, 07:32 PM
Thanks

Target: Ion_Basescul_unscaled
Distance: 1.4403% / 0.01440300 | ADC: 0.25x
67.2 Sklavenoi
19.8 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
13.0 Persian_incursions

Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_unscaled
Distance: 1.1125% / 0.01112456 | ADC: 0.25x
76.8 Sklavenoi
10.2 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
5.8 Persian_incursions
5.4 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
1.8 Ottoman_Turkish

Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_unscaled
Distance: 1.1584% / 0.01158379 | ADC: 0.25x
71.6 Sklavenoi
15.2 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
6.6 Illyrian_settler
5.4 Armenian_dynasty
1.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Coastal Elite
03-02-2020, 11:30 PM
Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 1.6163% / 0.01616261
33.8 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
32.4 Illyrian_settler
23.6 Sklavenoi
9.4 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.6 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 1.6197% / 0.01619685 | ADC: 0.25x
35.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
32.8 Illyrian_settler
23.2 Sklavenoi
8.6 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri

Distance to: DacoCeltic
0.02675220 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.02748290 Illyrian_settler
0.03972870 Thracian_settler
0.04320434 Ottoman_Turkish
0.04440265 Sklavenoi
0.04970594 Mycenaean_warrior
0.05036222 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.05698675 Persian_incursions
0.05991532 Armenian_dynasty
0.06385379 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete

Ethel
03-02-2020, 11:48 PM
Target: Ethel
Distance: 1.5526% / 0.01552626
47.6 Illyrian_settler
14.0 Phoenician_settler
11.0 Ottoman_Turkish
9.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
8.8 Sklavenoi
6.0 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
2.6 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.4 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Distance to: Ethel
0.02513484 Illyrian_settler
0.02855644 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.03064050 Thracian_settler
0.03727520 Mycenaean_warrior
0.04164391 Ottoman_Turkish
0.05165729 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
0.05286852 Persian_incursions
0.05287219 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
0.05398653 Sklavenoi
0.05611723 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.05822535 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
0.05842281 Armenian_dynasty
0.06309811 Phoenician_settler
0.06344431 Egyptian_settler
0.07196888 Paeonian_settler
0.07213723 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
0.07405251 Bantu_civilization
0.07851650 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.08254618 Berber_settler
0.09466174 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.12827525 Siberian_tribe

xripkan
03-03-2020, 12:02 AM
I think 0.25x gives the most valid results at this model. Which is the Thracian settler reference?
Target: Christos
Distance: 1.1147% / 0.01114736
39.4 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
36.6 Sklavenoi
6.8 Phoenician_settler
5.6 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
4.8 Armenian_dynasty
4.0 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
1.6 Bantu_civilization
1.2 Egyptian_settler

Target: Christos
Distance: 1.2009% / 0.01200893 | ADC: 0.25x
33.2 Sklavenoi
25.4 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
21.2 Thracian_settler
8.0 Mycenaean_warrior
5.2 Phoenician_settler
3.0 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
2.8 Persian_incursions
1.0 Armenian_dynasty
0.2 Bantu_civilization

lacreme
03-03-2020, 05:29 AM
What is the Mountain Greek Neolithic Peloponnisos reference ?


...
Are you partially or fully Cretan ?

paradox
03-03-2020, 07:56 AM
Target:
Distance: 0.8688% / 0.00868830

40.0 Sklavenoi
21.0 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
17.0 Illyrian_settler
13.0 Persian_incursions
8.2 Phoenician_settler
0.4 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.2 Bantu_civilization
0.2 Berber_settler

Target:
Distance: 0.8995% / 0.00899466 | ADC: 0.25x

38.0 Sklavenoi
22.4 Illyrian_settler
16.0 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
12.8 Persian_incursions
7.8 Phoenician_settler
3.0 Thracian_settler

Target:
Distance: 1.1664% / 0.01166370 | ADC: 0.5x

32.8 Sklavenoi
29.8 Thracian_settler
22.8 Illyrian_settler
11.2 Persian_incursions
3.4 Phoenician_settler

Target:
Distance: 1.5240% / 0.01524017 | ADC: 1x

35.2 Thracian_settler
31.6 Illyrian_settler
29.6 Sklavenoi
3.6 Persian_incursions


My father's


Target: Father
Distance: 1.3007% / 0.01300659

42.8 Sklavenoi
42.4 Illyrian_settler
11.0 Egyptian_settler
3.4 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
0.4 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Target: Father
Distance: 1.3161% / 0.01316072 | ADC: 0.25x

49.0 Illyrian_settler
41.2 Sklavenoi
9.8 Egyptian_settler

Target: Father
Distance: 1.3908% / 0.01390758 | ADC: 0.5x

54.6 Illyrian_settler
40.2 Sklavenoi
5.2 Egyptian_settler

Target: Father
Distance: 1.6080% / 0.01607983 | ADC: 1x

65.0 Illyrian_settler
35.0 Sklavenoi

xripkan
03-03-2020, 09:37 AM
What is the Mountain Greek Neolithic Peloponnisos reference ?


Are you partially or fully Cretan ?

No, I am mostly Peloponnesian

Voskos
03-03-2020, 10:10 AM
What is the Mountain Greek Neolithic Peloponnisos reference ?

The Peloponnesian neolithic. (GRC_Peloponnese_N)

Bosniensis
03-03-2020, 10:16 AM
Target: Bosniensis_scaled
Distance: 0.1760% / 0.17601677 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Illyrian_settler

Target: Bosniensis_scaled
Distance: 0.1760% / 0.17601677 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Illyrian_settler

Target: Bosniensis_scaled
Distance: 0.1760% / 0.17601677
100.0 Illyrian_settler

SUPREEEEEME
03-03-2020, 10:22 AM
What are the references for Armenian, Egyptian, and Phoenician?

Bosniensis
03-03-2020, 10:22 AM
This is "Sclavenoi" sample test on this calc (removed Sclavnoi) using unscaled

Target: Sklavenoi
Distance: 0.0505% / 0.05049475
38.2 Ottoman_Turkish
24.0 Illyrian_settler
19.0 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
10.2 Bantu_civilization
6.2 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
2.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.2 Persian_incursions

So... Sklavenoi are Illyrians themselves and you call it Sklavenoi.

Slavs do not score 45% Illyrian xD xD

You must use BALTIC samples for Slavs.

Defcon2
03-03-2020, 11:34 AM
Target: Juan
Distance: 2.1106% / 0.02110630 | ADC: 0.25x
64.8 Illyrian_settler
22.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
12.8 Berber_settler

Target: Juan
Distance: 2.1063% / 0.02106259
63.4 Illyrian_settler
21.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
14.2 Berber_settler
0.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

xripkan
03-03-2020, 11:40 AM
Target: Juan
Distance: 2.1106% / 0.02110630 | ADC: 0.25x
64.8 Illyrian_settler
22.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
12.8 Berber_settler

Target: Juan
Distance: 2.1063% / 0.02106259
63.4 Illyrian_settler
21.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
14.2 Berber_settler
0.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Illyrians were West Med people very close to North Italians and Iberians.

Voskos
03-03-2020, 12:18 PM
So... Sklavenoi are Illyrians themselves and you call it Sklavenoi.

Not at all. I used Russian_Kursk as a reference.

xripkan
03-03-2020, 12:20 PM
Not at all. I used Russian_Kursk as a reference.

What about the Thracian reference?

Voskos
03-03-2020, 12:25 PM
What about the Thracian reference?

BGR_IA

Impaler
03-03-2020, 12:30 PM
How about Persian_incursions and Nomad_Kazak_Tengri?

Voskos
03-03-2020, 12:32 PM
What are the references for Armenian, Egyptian, and Phoenician?

Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan, EGY_Hellenistic, Levant_JOR_EBA.

Voskos
03-03-2020, 12:36 PM
How about Persian_incursions and Nomad_Kazak_Tengri?

IRN_Hasanlu_IA(Iron Age) and KAZ_Nomad_MA(Middle Ages).

Voskos
03-03-2020, 03:48 PM
Target: Tunisian
Distance: 0.6720% / 0.00671982 | ADC: 0.25x
65.0 Berber_settler
14.4 Phoenician_settler
11.2 Egyptian_settler
4.8 Bantu_civilization
3.0 Sklavenoi
0.8 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.8 Kenyan_runner_marathon

Voskos
03-03-2020, 03:51 PM
Target: Algerian
Distance: 0.6170% / 0.00616969
70.4 Berber_settler
8.4 Bantu_civilization
7.8 Phoenician_settler
7.0 Egyptian_settler
3.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
1.8 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.4 Siberian_tribe
0.4 Sklavenoi
0.2 Kenyan_runner_marathon

Voskos
03-03-2020, 03:59 PM
Target: Libyan
Distance: 0.6863% / 0.00686303
42.6 Berber_settler
36.0 Phoenician_settler
7.6 Egyptian_settler
6.2 Kenyan_runner_marathon
4.6 Bantu_civilization
2.8 Sklavenoi
0.2 Siberian_tribe

Voskos
03-03-2020, 04:03 PM
Target: Czech
Distance: 1.3818% / 0.01381808 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Sklavenoi
21.8 Illyrian_settler
7.2 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.8 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.2 Berber_settler

Voskos
03-03-2020, 04:06 PM
arget: Slovenian
Distance: 0.7197% / 0.00719731 | ADC: 0.25x
63.8 Sklavenoi
33.6 Illyrian_settler
2.2 Mycenaean_warrior
0.4 Kenyan_runner_marathon

Cumansky
03-03-2020, 06:48 PM
Not at all. I used Russian_Kursk as a reference.

Bosniensis right, the Kursk is just another mongrel race, because some they ancestors from Ukraine too, and Ukraine is basically Steppe, Balkan, Nordic type mixes. Ukraine was belonging to Poland commonwealth in most of their history, commonwealth means uniting all the tribes under democratic type laws, Poland was the first country in the world with that system, that why Jews loved Poland. And most people now they live in a commonwealth but Poland was the first commonwealth you know

And when it comes to Ukraine steppe region was lawless ungoverned for the last few centuries even in the commonwealth that is special designated area for outlaws and peasants, and honestly all the history was lawless there going back in the centuries, that is an arm reach from Ottoman Empire (Crimean Khanate, Black Sea), that is where my Mother origin from

lacreme
03-03-2020, 07:02 PM
No, I am mostly Peloponnesian

I wonder why at ADC 0 it chooses Minoan for you but neolithic Peloponnesos+Thracian for my friend (half peloponnesian) . Not so for the choice of populations but for the complete absence of the other ones in each case.

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:32 AM
Target: Bosnian
Distance: 0.7807% / 0.00780653 | ADC: 0.25x
67.8 Sklavenoi
13.6 Mycenaean_warrior
7.8 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
4.8 Illyrian_settler
3.6 Paeonian_settler
1.6 Phoenician_settler
0.8 Armenian_dynasty

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:36 AM
the Kursk is just another mongrel race

Calc works best for Greeks and Balkanites.Anyway I chose to use Russians as a reference instead of Poles because Poland will probably show some minor Central European non slavic admixture.

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:38 AM
Target: Slovakian
Distance: 1.2829% / 0.01282928 | ADC: 0.25x
79.8 Sklavenoi
13.8 Thracian_settler
5.8 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.6 Persian_incursions

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:41 AM
Target: Gagauz
Distance: 0.6845% / 0.00684492 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Sklavenoi
20.2 Illyrian_settler
13.8 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
8.8 Armenian_dynasty
4.0 Ottoman_Turkish
3.8 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
2.6 Egyptian_settler
2.6 Mycenaean_warrior
0.8 Persian_incursions
0.4 Berber_settler

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:42 AM
Target: Greek_Trabzon
Distance: 1.1313% / 0.01131307
68.0 Armenian_dynasty
24.4 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
7.6 Egyptian_settler

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:53 AM
Target: Bulgarian
Distance: 0.5094% / 0.00509431 | ADC: 0.25x
46.4 Sklavenoi
18.2 Thracian_settler
13.8 Mycenaean_warrior
13.4 Illyrian_settler
3.0 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
2.8 Persian_incursions
0.8 Phoenician_settler
0.6 Armenian_dynasty
0.6 Ottoman_Turkish
0.2 Berber_settler
0.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Bosniensis
03-04-2020, 08:09 AM
I've tried Iron Age Poland and Baltic DNA as "SLAVIC" which doesn't have Greek and Balkan DNA within like Voskoses one.

Voskos Sclavenoi is like using modern Serb sample as Slavic, wherever he got it it has balkan components therefore mixed.

Mixed Samples shouldn't be used.


This is with real Slavic DNA

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.2052% / 0.01205213 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Illyrian_settler
35.4 Sklavenoi
12.8 Persian_incursions
7.2 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
2.0 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
1.8 Berber_settler


This is with mixed Voskos sample

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.3353% / 0.01335314
60.0 Sklavenoi
20.4 Illyrian_settler
9.2 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
3.4 Persian_incursions
2.0 Egyptian_settler
1.8 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
1.6 Berber_settler
0.6 Armenian_dynasty
0.6 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
0.4 Chinese_merchant_silk_road


Now I am using Voskos Sklavenoi Unscaled on IronAge Unscaled Calc:

Target: Sklavenoi
Distance: 0.4313% / 0.00431334
63.0 Europe
24.4 Med
8.6 CentAsian
2.4 Caucasian
1.2 Polar
0.4 IndoAryan


No Slavs have 25% Mediterranean Input, (Check Belarus and Russians)


So my suggestion is to update Sclavenoi sample

Voskos
03-04-2020, 08:29 AM
I've tried Iron Age Poland and Baltic DNA as "SLAVIC" which doesn't have Greek and Balkan DNA within like Voskoses one.

Voskos Sclavenoi is like using modern Serb sample as Slavic, wherever he got it it has balkan components therefore mixed.

Sklavenoi are modern Western Russians from the official G25 spreadsheet. If you don't like your results then just don't use the calc.

Russian_Kursk,0.011525,0.011375,0.018475,0.0204,0. 0106,0.00795,0.004575,0.005625,-0.001975,-0.01415,-0.00115,-0.00485,0.01265,0.014225,-0.00965,0.001575,0.0028,7e-04,0.002025,5e-04,-0.003,-0.00655,0.00475,-0.00395,-0.00115

Sklavenoi,0.011525,0.011375,0.018475,0.0204,0.0106 ,0.00795,0.004575,0.005625,-0.001975,-0.01415,-0.00115,-0.00485,0.01265,0.014225,-0.00965,0.001575,0.0028,7e-04,0.002025,5e-04,-0.003,-0.00655,0.00475,-0.00395,-0.00115


Distance to: Sklavenoi
0.00000000 Russian_Kursk
0.00591291 Russian_Orel
0.00741796 Ukrainian
0.00842711 Russian_Tver
0.00872590 Russian_Voronez
0.00970112 Lithuanian_PA
0.00996116 Polish
0.01017445 Belarusian
0.01199212 Lithuanian_VA
0.01309274 Russian_Kostroma
0.01348906 Russian_Smolensk
0.01373215 Lithuanian_RA
0.01413271 Lithuanian_VZ
0.01580206 Lithuanian_SZ
0.01842645 Lithuanian_PZ
0.02122009 Russian_Pinega
0.03033999 Serbian
0.05559441 Ottoman_Turkish
0.05850167 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.05864261 Illyrian_settler
0.06179031 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.06597477 Thracian_settler
0.06811256 Persian_incursions
0.07143959 Armenian_dynasty
0.07461530 Mycenaean_warrior

Deniz
03-04-2020, 02:49 PM
Target: Deniz
Distance: 2.0023% / 0.02002344 | ADC: 0.5x
41.4 Sklavenoi
29.8 Thracian_settler
23.6 Ottoman_Turkish
3.2 Armenian_dynasty
2.0 Mycenaean_warrior


Target: DenizGF
Distance: 1.7411% / 0.01741132 | ADC: 0.5x
42.6 Sklavenoi
35.6 Thracian_settler
14.0 Ottoman_Turkish
4.4 Armenian_dynasty
3.4 Mycenaean_warrior

xripkan
03-04-2020, 03:09 PM
I wonder why at ADC 0 it chooses Minoan for you but neolithic Peloponnesos+Thracian for my friend (half peloponnesian) . Not so for the choice of populations but for the complete absence of the other ones in each case.

Which is the rest of his ancestry?

lacreme
03-04-2020, 06:45 PM
Which is the rest of his ancestry?

The rest (50% in total) is mostly from Minor Asia, 12,5% from Crete and a little bit from Milos and Lamia

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:18 PM
Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia
Distance: 0.6448% / 0.00644826 | ADC: 0.25x
35.4 Armenian_dynasty
19.2 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
10.8 Mycenaean_warrior
10.8 Persian_incursions
10.8 Phoenician_settler
8.2 Illyrian_settler
4.2 Thracian_settler
0.6 Sklavenoi

Voskos
03-04-2020, 07:19 PM
Target: Greek_Kos
Distance: 0.2160% / 0.00215994
16.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
16.6 Persian_incursions
15.6 Armenian_dynasty
11.2 Phoenician_settler
10.2 Sklavenoi
8.8 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
8.2 Illyrian_settler
4.6 Thracian_settler
3.6 Mycenaean_warrior
1.8 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
1.4 Berber_settler
1.0 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast

Voskos
03-06-2020, 10:03 AM
Target: Serbian
Distance: 0.5611% / 0.00561135
57.8 Sklavenoi
12.6 Illyrian_settler
11.4 Paeonian_settler
5.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
5.4 Armenian_dynasty
2.0 Egyptian_settler
1.8 Thracian_settler
1.6 Berber_settler
0.8 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.6 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.2 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.2 Kenyan_runner_marathon

Voskos
03-06-2020, 10:05 AM
Target: Romanian
Distance: 0.5981% / 0.00598085 | ADC: 0.25x
46.8 Sklavenoi
19.8 Thracian_settler
16.4 Illyrian_settler
5.8 Mycenaean_warrior
5.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
2.2 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
2.0 Berber_settler
0.8 Persian_incursions
0.6 Ottoman_Turkish

Voskos
03-06-2020, 10:06 AM
arget: Romaniote_Jew
Distance: 0.3952% / 0.00395226
24.6 Illyrian_settler
22.4 Phoenician_settler
17.4 Armenian_dynasty
16.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
8.4 Berber_settler
6.2 Egyptian_settler
2.2 Sklavenoi
1.2 Mycenaean_warrior
1.0 Chinese_merchant_silk_road

Voskos
03-06-2020, 10:07 AM
Target: Moldavian
Distance: 0.7834% / 0.00783376 | ADC: 0.5x
43.8 Sklavenoi
19.6 Thracian_settler
14.0 Illyrian_settler
12.4 Mycenaean_warrior
5.4 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
3.4 Persian_incursions
1.4 Ottoman_Turkish

Dušan
11-04-2023, 04:34 PM
Target: Dušan_unscaled
Distance: 1.6283% / 0.01628305
65.2 Sklavenoi
17.0 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
15.0 Illyrian_settler
2.8 Paeonian_settler




Target: Dušan_unscaled
Distance: 1.6300% / 0.01630021 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.8 Sklavenoi
20.4 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
14.8 Illyrian_settler

celticdragongod
11-04-2023, 04:55 PM
Distance to: CDG
0.04197297 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
0.04296208 Illyrian_settler
0.05036254 Sklavenoi
0.05450546 Ottoman_Turkish
0.05646800 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri
0.05981137 Thracian_settler
0.06820356 Mycenaean_warrior
0.06924926 Persian_incursions
0.07159724 Armenian_dynasty
0.08128086 Bantu_civilization
0.08175355 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete
0.08540773 Egyptian_settler
0.08564268 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
0.08711765 Chinese_merchant_silk_road
0.08856279 Mountain_Greek_neolithic_Peloponnisos
0.08857726 Phoenician_settler
0.09424417 Berber_settler
0.10006498 Paeonian_settler
0.10164116 Kenyan_runner_marathon
0.10446023 Mountain_Greek_neolithic
0.13388665 Siberian_tribe

Target: CDG
Distance: 3.3841% / 0.03384102
31.6 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
30.0 Sklavenoi
25.0 Illyrian_settler
13.4 Nomad_Kazak_Tengri

DomitiusAurelian
11-04-2023, 06:26 PM
Target: Domitius
Distance: 0.9746% / 0.00974552 | ADC: 0.5x RC
30.8 Ottoman_Turkish
30.0 Persian_incursions
20.4 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
13.4 Armenian_dynasty
5.4 Illyrian_settler