Where can Ramses II pass ?

[Nassbean]

https://i.imgur.com/4DO6V6m.jpg


reconstruction made by experts at the university of Kanagawa : https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf58/2c65821dbf51607850ce367fbbf96d6d5573.pdf

He looked very "MENA" to me

[Avicenna]

In the sea

[Latinus]

Probably more common in the MENA world.

[Kamal900]

I think he was racially Taurid like me or a mixture between Dinaric and Armenoid.

[Zroota]

Looks Armenoid and very Semitic. Passes more in the Levant than in Egypt though.

[Kamal900]

Looks Armenoid and very Semitic. Passes more in the Levant than in Egypt though.

Like I said, Taurid like me.

[Latinus]

The guy was Ramses II, he could pass wherever he wanted.

[Nassbean]

I think he was racially Taurid like me or a mixture between Dinaric and Armenoid.

his face is too long to be taurid imo but I can see the armenoid element

[Nassbean]

Looks Armenoid and very Semitic. Passes more in the Levant than in Egypt though.

I disagree imo he could mainly pass in NA , the arabian peninsula and southern levant but I don't see him passing in Syria or Lebanon

[Kamal900]

his face is too long to be taurid imo but I can see the armenoid element

Well, I think I have a long face as well:
https://i.ibb.co/d7HG5Vp/snapshot3-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vJ7hc8v/snapshot4.jpg

It's just that I'm fatter than Ramses and so on.

[Kamal900]

I disagree imo he could mainly pass in NA , the arabian peninsula and southern levant but I don't see him passing in Syria or Lebanon

Better in the Southern Levant since most Arabians are racially Arabids and so on.

[فاروق]

Well, I think I have a long face as well:
https://i.ibb.co/d7HG5Vp/snapshot3-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vJ7hc8v/snapshot4.jpg

It's just that I'm fatter than Ramses and so on.

Ramses is your brother he does actually look like you rofl

[Kamal900]

Ramses is your brother he does actually look like you rofl

That's why I said that he was racially Taurid, rofl. Yeah, I cluster with the ancient Egyptians in my MyTrueAncestry here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316000-My-Updated-MyTrueAncestry-Results

[Arsen_]

https://i.imgur.com/4DO6V6m.jpg


reconstruction made by experts at the university of Kanagawa : https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf58/2c65821dbf51607850ce367fbbf96d6d5573.pdf

He looked very "MENA" to me

Most of Egyptian Pharaohs came from Hyksos people who arrived in Egypt from Armenian highlands.

[Nassbean]

Well, I think I have a long face as well:
https://i.ibb.co/d7HG5Vp/snapshot3-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vJ7hc8v/snapshot4.jpg

It's just that I'm fatter than Ramses and so on.

I think it has nothing to do with your weight your face is simply wider and more "squarish"

[Nassbean]

Most of Egyptian Pharaohs came from Hyksos people who arrived in Egypt from Armenian highlands.

not really hyksos are just one episode in the long history of Egypt and most of them were quickly replaced ...ramses II lived way after the hyksos and what evidence do you have to say that hyksos came from Armenia ? from what I've read they came from the levant

[Zroota]

his face is too long to be taurid imo but I can see the armenoid element
Taurids can have long faces and foreheads. Although their heads are large with a tendency of a have flatter occiputs. They are Dinarid-like.

This is a true Taurid type (and he looks slightly similar to Ramses):

https://insp.ngo/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/INSP_Sunny-Hundal_11.jpg

[Nassbean]

Taurids can have long faces and foreheads. Although their heads are large with a tendency of a have flatter occiputs. They are Dinarid-like.

This is a true Taurid type (and he looks slightly similar to Ramses):

https://insp.ngo/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/INSP_Sunny-Hundal_11.jpg

don't you think ramses II looked more "arab" or north african ?

Also this is what it is said about his skin color :


After having achieved this immense work, an important scientific conclusion remains to be drawn: the anthropological study and the microscopic analysis of hair, carried out by four laboratories: Judiciary Medecine (Professor Ceccaldi), Société L’Oréal, Atomic Energy Commission, and Institut Textile de France showed that Ramses II was a ‘leucoderm’, that is a fair-skinned man, near to the Prehistoric and Antiquity Mediterraneans, or briefly, of the Berbers of Africa.

[Zroota]

Well, I think I have a long face as well:
https://i.ibb.co/d7HG5Vp/snapshot3-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vJ7hc8v/snapshot4.jpg

It's just that I'm fatter than Ramses and so on.
Do you have newer photos? You looked more Taurid in your recent photos from what I remember.


don't you think ramses II looked more "arab" or north african ?

Also this is what it is said about his skin color :
I do think that he looks pretty Semitic. I'm guessing he can pass better in North Africa. Hard to tell from a computer reconstruction anyway.

I was just addressing that Taurids have longer faces/heads.

[Arsen_]

not really hyksos are just one episode in the long history of Egypt and most of them were quickly replaced ...ramses II lived way after the hyksos and what evidence do you have to say that hyksos came from Armenia ? from what I've read they came from the levant

There are lots of information about that. For example a British Egyptologist called David Rohl wrote about it that at the beginning of their migration from the Armenian Highlands, the Hyksos settled in the lands of Palestine.

[Kamal900]

I think it has nothing to do with your weight your face is simply wider and more "squarish"

Well, I don't think that's the case since being fat does have an affect on your phenotype. My younger brother in the middle as a squarish face due to his pronounced jaw shape:
https://i.ibb.co/bgSWDXq/12415-364920117474-3498306-n.jpg

Me:
https://i.ibb.co/MRR4g5G/snapshot-1.jpg

And yet, me and my brother look a lot like these two brothers less than 4,000 years ago:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Dmh5mGuNWkyLz-CaTLRwmkOVHZywB6yMFK7U1JmhNhwaA5QsJ1v7DiEaj1T6guCv KdSNxWyhBEElJ58HAZlKedGPy8FF5jvEENyvsOwE7kdfNkWsF1 UzObkrZaiX6SuAz8pc
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/u17QxM5K4xpm2-JVu96xubyJ7deiJAtyXF_woiLfMN0vQqdcmXg7iKS0pj-cEcItsPTzA9ZmNxFSfaHHbyk6qJzTbZqIslz9HvK36RdzGjqIY 7CHpILWrc3eGs883SUi2VwP

And I cluster with one of the brothers, rofl:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316000-My-Updated-MyTrueAncestry-Results

A more highter quality of Ramses the Great:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5f4beee220de1f63e5a393b63acc9bd3

A facial reconstruction of Nefret-Mut , singer of amun, 2,900 years ago:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-531097c6fceb581a0b18641bc1c1be70

We already know that Egyptians were NEVER Blacks but rather were an Afro-Asiatic group native to Egypt, and they cluster the closest to their modern day descendants, Southern Levantines and Arabians. While many Afroncetric lunatics like to assert that Nefertiti was Black, her reconstruction suggests otherwise:
https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/The-facial-reconstruction-sculpture.jpg

Which she looks a lot like this Palestinian girl from Ramallah at 3:15 on the right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziibkQnpOIg&feature=emb_title

[Zroota]

Well, I don't think that's the case since being fat does have an affect on your phenotype. My younger brother in the middle as a squarish face due to his pronounced jaw shape:
https://i.ibb.co/bgSWDXq/12415-364920117474-3498306-n.jpg
Your younger brother looks alpine, chubby or not. Wide-set eye shape and short broad forehead is very telling of this, regardless of weight. ;)

You are just slightly Alpinized, but I wouldn't say it's your legit phenotype.

[Nassbean]

Well, I don't think that's the case since being fat does have an affect on your phenotype. My younger brother in the middle as a squarish face due to his pronounced jaw shape:
https://i.ibb.co/bgSWDXq/12415-364920117474-3498306-n.jpg

Me:
https://i.ibb.co/MRR4g5G/snapshot-1.jpg

And yet, me and my brother look a lot like these two brothers less than 4,000 years ago:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Dmh5mGuNWkyLz-CaTLRwmkOVHZywB6yMFK7U1JmhNhwaA5QsJ1v7DiEaj1T6guCv KdSNxWyhBEElJ58HAZlKedGPy8FF5jvEENyvsOwE7kdfNkWsF1 UzObkrZaiX6SuAz8pc
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/u17QxM5K4xpm2-JVu96xubyJ7deiJAtyXF_woiLfMN0vQqdcmXg7iKS0pj-cEcItsPTzA9ZmNxFSfaHHbyk6qJzTbZqIslz9HvK36RdzGjqIY 7CHpILWrc3eGs883SUi2VwP

And I cluster with one of the brothers, rofl:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316000-My-Updated-MyTrueAncestry-Results

A more highter quality of Ramses the Great:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5f4beee220de1f63e5a393b63acc9bd3

A facial reconstruction of Nefret-Mut , singer of amun, 2,900 years ago:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-531097c6fceb581a0b18641bc1c1be70

We already know that Egyptians were NEVER Blacks but rather were an Afro-Asiatic group native to Egypt, and they cluster the closest to their modern day descendants, Southern Levantines and Arabians. While many Afroncetric lunatics like to assert that Nefertiti was Black, her reconstruction suggests otherwise:
https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/The-facial-reconstruction-sculpture.jpg

Which she looks a lot like this Palestinian girl from Ramallah at 3:15 on the right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziibkQnpOIg&feature=emb_title

I can see maybe similarities with Nefret-mut but I still think ramses II have a way longer face and a more semitic/arab look (you are lighter and you look more like northern levantines imo ) as for the reconstruction of Nefertiti most experts are not really sure if it was really her or a member of her family

[Kamal900]

Your younger brother looks alpine, chubby or not. Wide-set eye shape and short broad forehead is very telling of this, regardless of weight. ;)

You are just slightly Alpinized, but I wouldn't say it's your legit phenotype.

Well, here are my photos back of me and my family in the early days of the apricity when I was new here:
https://i.ibb.co/hFHCDcZ/DSCN1390.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/6Db0FJR/Untitled10.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zJXqPVb/Untitled11.jpg

My mom:
https://i.ibb.co/QMwj15s/20140710-024759.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/y51Q3vq/20140710-024651.jpg

My big brother:
https://i.ibb.co/SVc6VBp/DSCF0009.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/nDpmV5C/DSCF0008.jpg

What do you think?

[Kamal900]

I can see maybe similarities with Nefret-mut but I still think ramses II have a way longer face and a more semitic/arab look (you are lighter and you look more like northern levantines imo ) as for the reconstruction of Nefertiti most experts are not really sure if it was really her or a member of her family

Yeah, but whether it is Nefertiti or a close relative, you can't deny that she looks very Palestinian like the girl in the video, rofl.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

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[Nassbean]

Yeah, but whether it is Nefertiti or a close relative, you can't deny that she looks very Palestinian like the girl in the video, rofl.

indeed she looked very palestinian

[Nassbean]

bump

[Ülev]

Hollywood

like Telly Savalas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telly_Savalas
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Telly_Savalas_Kojak_1973.JPG/693px-Telly_Savalas_Kojak_1973.JPG

[Nurzat]

Ramses would be a great name for boys, why isn't it used? it sounds so powerful. he looked badass by that reconstruction. the comparison to Kojak is very good ^

[Nassbean]

Ramses would be a great name for boys, why isn't it used? it sounds so powerful. he looked badass by that reconstruction. the comparison to Kojak is very good ^

in ancient egyptian it was "ramessou"... still badass ?

[Nurzat]

in ancient egyptian it was "ramessou"... still badass ?

if the ""e is short and it sounds like Ram-soo, then yes. otherwise we can stick to Ramses xD

[Smeagol]

There are lots of information about that. For example a British Egyptologist called David Rohl wrote about it that at the beginning of their migration from the Armenian Highlands, the Hyksos settled in the lands of Palestine.

The Hyksos were a Semitic people and the Egyptians hated them and drove them out. There were no Hyksos Pharaohs except during the second intermediate period and Ramses certainly was not one.

[Voskos]

Israeli,Palestinian, Egypt.

[Arsen_]

The Hyksos were a Semitic people and the Egyptians hated them and drove them out. There were no Hyksos Pharaohs except during the second intermediate period and Ramses certainly was not one.

The elite of the Hyksos came from Armenian highlands and they were Indo-Europeans.

[Voskos]

I would have said as far as Morocco and Algeria but there's something in the eyes and mouth that looks off for these western regions.

[Nassbean]

I would have said as far as Morocco and Algeria but there's something in the eyes and mouth that looks off for these western regions.

He still can pass imo It's not as if berbers were very different from egyptians/middle easterners (differences are subtle between berbers and egyptians, southern levantines and arabs)

[Smeagol]

The elite of the Hyksos came from Armenian highlands and they were Indo-Europeans.

There is evidence for an Indo-European element in the elite, but none of the important Pharaohs were Hyksos or descended from them.

[aherne]

Yet another "armenoid", even more so passing in Israel:picard2:

He looks like what he was: Egyptian or North African

[Kamal900]

The Hyksos were a Semitic people and the Egyptians hated them and drove them out. There were no Hyksos Pharaohs except during the second intermediate period and Ramses certainly was not one.

Not to mention that had they been Hyksos of the ancient Egyptians that got their DNA squenced back in 2017, they would have had significant steppe ancestry like today's Levantines, Canaanites and Jews. The fact is that they don't and neither do their modern day descendants do either which proves that they're weren't Hyksos or Semitic immigrants in general, and that there is a genetic continuity between the ancient Egyptians and their modern descendants:
https://i.ibb.co/bBtjZrp/2020-03-06-07-26-41-vahaduo-github-io-e4a8a1b767b7.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tMQhC1g/2020-03-06-07-42-16-vahaduo-github-io-4cf4d09b744c.jpg

You can clearly see that Egyptian Muslims have the closest genetic affinity to the ancient Egyptians from the New Kingdom period around 1,300 BCE while the only Levantines that has genetic affinity to them are the Palestinian Muslims due to the recent admixture from the Egyptian migrants to the area and so on which explains where we got our Berber ancestry as well. You also need to remember that both the ancient Egyptians and the ancient Canaanites were genetically closely related already and so on.

[Kamal900]

Yet another "armenoid", even more so passing in Israel:picard2:

He looks like what he was: Egyptian or North African

Or even Southern Levantine Arab such as myself.