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Kyp
03-04-2020, 07:44 AM
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Karabakh1
3.00469632 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.18841653 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.27630890 Zaza
3.80508870 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.00286148 Azerbaijani
4.47566755 Turkmen_Iraq
5.38930422 Turk_Southeast
5.41903128 Kurd_Sorani
5.45654653 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.01536884 Turk_East
7.60869897 Kurds
7.80860423 Kurd
7.94081860 Lur_Iran
8.03160632 Turk_Central_East
8.11568235 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.30170464 Iranian
9.46457606 Turk_South
9.95985944 Armenian_East
10.00177984 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.02812545 Iranian_Fars
10.56714247 Turk_Anatolia
10.57494208 Turk_Central_West
11.26819861 Iranians
12.00242059 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.12524639 Armenian_West


Distance to: Azerbaijani_Karabakh2
3.36694223 Azerbaijani
4.00522159 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.17481736 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.58977638 Turk_Southeast
7.31131999 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.69141079 Turk_South
7.87506190 Zaza
7.94428726 Turk_Central_East
7.94729514 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.17282081 Turkmen_Iraq
8.30949457 Kurd_Sorani
8.76243117 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.19873361 Turk_Anatolia
9.59172560 Turk_Central_West
9.85240072 Turk_East
10.19831849 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.44301202 Iranian_Fars
10.51680084 Iran_Khorasan
10.54890990 Iranian
10.84321908 Lur_Iran
11.04334641 Kurd
11.16937330 Iran_Central_East
11.29023915 Kurds
11.51116415 Turk_Southwest
11.59836626 Turk_West_BlackSea


Distance to: Azerbaijani_Karabakh3 (mixed?)
4.28245257 Turk_East
4.29678950 Zaza
5.69990351 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.20436943 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.23160493 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.45561771 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.47419493 Armenian_East
6.97331342 Azerbaijani
7.37242837 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.66039163 Turkmen_Iraq
8.10534392 Turk_Southeast
8.24517435 Kurd_Sorani
8.52846411 Kurds
8.91882840 Turk_Central_East
9.28200409 Armenian_West
9.75134350 Kurd
9.93627194 Turk_Ahiska
10.06850038 Iranian
10.14148904 Lur_Iran
10.62275859 Assyrian
11.13201689 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.52027777 Turk_South
11.95645014 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.99536160 Georgia_Jews
12.08237559 Turk_Central_West


Distance to: Azerbaijani_Karabakh4 (mixed?)
3.37495185 Turk_East
6.04547765 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.28491050 Zaza
6.48858228 Armenian_East
7.43051142 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.61262110 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.64808473 Azerbaijani
8.04552671 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.40077377 Turk_Ahiska
8.42195939 Turk_Central_East
8.48903999 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.56878638 Turk_Southeast
9.63115258 Armenian_West
9.66051241 Turkmen_Iraq
10.11390132 Kurd_Sorani
10.32355559 Kurds
10.34384358 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.05116736 Turk_South
11.07965703 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.60102582 Kurd
11.61135651 Turk_Anatolia
11.62462042 Iranian
11.66666619 Turk_Central_West
11.69277555 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.75708722 Assyrian

Kyp
03-04-2020, 07:56 AM
Average components without suspect mixed ones (Dodecad k12b):

Gedrosian: 20.98
Siberian: 3.01
Northwest_African: 0.23
Southeast_Asian: 0.32
Atlantic_Med: 7.75
North_European: 8.71
South_Asian: 2.85
East_African: 0.54
Southwest_Asian: 13.11
East_Asian: 2.89
Caucasian: 39.57
SSA: 0.05


Distance to: Azeri_Karabakh
2.00404591 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.26863395 Azerbaijani
2.72508715 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.65022580 Turk_Southeast
4.82800166 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.28024621 Zaza
5.91104052 Turkmen_Iraq
6.16195586 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.38271886 Kurd_Sorani
7.43489744 Turk_Central_East
8.04155458 Turk_East
8.11259515 Turk_South
8.93606177 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.03250242 Iranian
9.04620362 Lur_Iran
9.10791414 Kurd
9.17486240 Kurds
9.46456021 Turk_Anatolia
9.66213227 Turk_Central_West
9.81408681 Iranian_Fars
9.96153101 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.74481736 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.33169449 Iran_Central_East
11.50973067 Iran_Khorasan
11.66307850 Armenian_East

Kyp
03-04-2020, 10:54 AM
All samples combined, including those with possible non-azeri ancestry:

Gedrosian: 20.68
Siberian: 1.77
Northwest_African: 0.11
Southeast_Asian: 0.17
Atlantic_Med: 8.36
North_European: 8.46
South Asian: 2.47
East_African: 0.40
Southwest_Asian: 12.67
East_Asian: 2.41
Caucasian: 42.26
SSA: 0.14


Distance to: Azerbaijan_Karabakh
3.16061703 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.90794063 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.17284076 Zaza
4.28510210 Azerbaijani
5.14140059 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.36958099 Turk_East
5.66804199 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.88260147 Turk_Southeast
6.67850283 Turkmen_Iraq
7.20803024 Kurd_Sorani
7.36975576 Turk_Central_East
8.38482558 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.71259433 Kurds
8.83470430 Armenian_East
9.25426388 Turk_South
9.31202448 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.37322250 Kurd
9.42694542 Iranian
9.61822229 Lur_Iran
10.22177578 Turk_Anatolia
10.30835583 Turk_Central_West
10.95378930 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.45165490 Armenian_West
11.59245876 Iranian_Fars
11.87757972 Turk_Ahiska


There seems to be some affinity towards Armenians/Anatolia in the Karabakh region, as one could expect.

Leto
03-04-2020, 11:22 AM
I guess Naxçivan Azerbaijanis should be virtually identical unless it's a recent settlement. I don't know the history.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Nakhchivan_Autonomous_Republic_in_Azerbaijan_%28se mi-secession%29.svg/627px-Nakhchivan_Autonomous_Republic_in_Azerbaijan_%28se mi-secession%29.svg.png

Kyp
03-04-2020, 11:34 AM
I guess Naxçivan Azerbaijanis should be virtually identical unless it's a recent settlement. I don't know the history.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Nakhchivan_Autonomous_Republic_in_Azerbaijan_%28se mi-secession%29.svg/627px-Nakhchivan_Autonomous_Republic_in_Azerbaijan_%28se mi-secession%29.svg.png

It's not recent settlement. They should be somewhat similar.

Heydar Aliyev was from that region

https://www.azernews.az/media/pictures/heydar-aliyev21.jpg

Babak
03-04-2020, 01:59 PM
80% of the population actually consisted of Kurds, azeris, persians, and turks before they were wiped out by Russians and armenians. So im not surprised that azeris score identical to other azeris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erivan_Khanate

FinalFlash
03-04-2020, 02:03 PM
80% of the population actually consisted of Kurds, azeris, persians, and turks before they were wiped out by Russians and armenians. So im not surprised that azeris score identical to other azeris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erivan_Khanate

Azeris never formed a majority in Artsakh, not by a long shot. Ditto for Nakhijevan until the Soviet era. If anything, the Armenian population of Nakhijevan was "wiped" out.

Kyp
03-04-2020, 02:19 PM
80% of the population actually consisted of Kurds, azeris, persians, and turks before they were wiped out by Russians and armenians. So im not surprised that azeris score identical to other azeris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erivan_Khanate

They do score diffently though. If two of the results are self identifying Azeri (#3 and #4) it would mean there are still individuals who carry armenian ancestry in Karabakh.

Leto
03-04-2020, 02:21 PM
80% of the population actually consisted of Kurds, azeris, persians, and turks before they were wiped out by Russians and armenians. So im not surprised that azeris score identical to other azeris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erivan_Khanate
Wiped out? Nakhchivan is almost entirely Azerbaijani. Shut up about Russians, if Stalin deported some groups, it was solely that bastard's decision.

Leto
03-04-2020, 02:23 PM
Obviously Armenians in that region are much older. Azerbaijani people didn't exist 1000 years ago.

Kyp
03-04-2020, 02:32 PM
Obviously Armenians in that region are much older. Azerbaijani people didn't exist 1000 years ago.

Most of it was muslim and turko-persianate rule since 1000 years ago. I don't think he was referring to antiquity.

Leto
03-04-2020, 02:37 PM
Heydar Aliyev was from that region

https://www.azernews.az/media/pictures/heydar-aliyev21.jpg
Heydar was an Azerbaijani speaker but some nationalists suspect Ilham is mixed or his wife. They actually don't like Kurds and Kurdish or Tat or Talysh ancestry isn't something to be proud of to many of them.
Most Tats have disappeared in the 20th century, only a few remain.

FinalFlash
03-04-2020, 02:39 PM
Most of it was muslim and turko-persianate rule since 1000 years ago. I don't think he was referring to antiquity.

Yeah, except that it wasn't until the Soviet era for Nakhijevan at least.

Babak
03-04-2020, 02:52 PM
Wiped out? Nakhchivan is almost entirely Azerbaijani. Shut up about Russians, if Stalin deported some groups, it was solely that bastard's decision.

Thats what i was referring to. Calm down man lol. Why the hostility?

harutsafaryan07
03-04-2020, 03:26 PM
80% of the population actually consisted of Kurds, azeris, persians, and turks before they were wiped out by Russians and armenians. So im not surprised that azeris score identical to other azeris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erivan_KhanatePersians and Kurds have never had much in Armenia kurds were moved from Iran to Karabakh and Zangezur by Shah Abbas Iof Iran in the 16th century Then in 20th they were deported by Stalin. They also fled because of the war in Karabakh.

here is Kurds from Kazakhstan

Kit Number: GK5991373
Name: KAZ_Kurd1101

Kit Number: ED1991550
Name: KAZ_Kurd1156

Kit Number: TW4116734
Name: KAZ_Kurd1159

Kit Number: QJ9235600
Name: KAZ_Kurd1160

Kit Number: NW6581480
Name: KAZ_Kurd1173

Kit Number: SP9841700
Name: KAZ_Kurd1198

Leto
03-04-2020, 03:34 PM
Thats what i was referring to. Calm down man lol. Why the hostility?
Okay, never mind. Let's not ruin the thread.

Leto
03-04-2020, 03:35 PM
Persians and Kurds have never had much in Armenia kurds were moved from Iran to Karabakh and Zangezur by Shah Abbas Iof Iran in the 16th century Then in 20th they were deported by Stalin. They also fled because of the war in Karabakh.

here is Kurds from Kazakhstan

Kit Number: GK5991373
Name: KAZ_Kurd1101

Kit Number: ED1991550
Name: KAZ_Kurd1156

Kit Number: TW4116734
Name: KAZ_Kurd1159

Kit Number: QJ9235600
Name: KAZ_Kurd1160

Kit Number: NW6581480
Name: KAZ_Kurd1173

Kit Number: SP9841700
Name: KAZ_Kurd1198
Great finds, I will post their HW results in the S-W-C Asian thread.

Kyp
03-04-2020, 08:51 PM
Did a run for with only relevant groups of the Karabakh region:

https://i.imgur.com/mQJ6N4p.jpg