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Kyp
03-05-2020, 12:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/J5cgVif.png
Version 1:
Calculator used: Dodecad k12b
Samples:
Anatolian: Armenian, Cappadocians combined
Caucasus: Abkhazians,
Arab: Bedouins
Iranian: Medieval Iranians from Iran and Kurdish ares combined
Mongol: Mongolians
Turkic: Turkmens from Uzbekistan


any idea how I can improve it?

Note: Iranian Azeris have by far the highest sample size. Turkmen_Uzbekistan eats additional Iranic ancestry.
Leto
03-05-2020, 12:22 PM
Don't mix ancients with modern ones. Also, I would use Lezgins or at least Georgians instead of Abkhazians.

Kurd
Armenian
Lezgin
Karakalpak
Lebanese
Leto
03-05-2020, 12:28 PM
Target: Azeri_Turkey
Distance: 2.1210% / 0.02121004
52.8 Armenian
28.6 Kurdish
10.2 Karakalpak
8.4 Tabasaran

Target: Azeri_Dagestan
Distance: 1.0911% / 0.01091129
38.8 Tabasaran
29.6 Kurdish
24.8 Armenian
6.8 Karakalpak

Target: Azeri
Distance: 0.8776% / 0.00877632
53.4 Kurdish
32.6 Armenian
11.0 Karakalpak
3.0 Tabasaran

Target: Azeri_Turkey
Distance: 2.1874% / 0.02187441 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Kurdish
42.2 Armenian
8.6 Karakalpak
5.6 Tabasaran

Target: Azeri_Dagestan
Distance: 1.2004% / 0.01200412 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Kurdish
38.2 Tabasaran
13.8 Armenian
5.2 Karakalpak

Target: Azeri
Distance: 1.0525% / 0.01052496 | ADC: 0.25x
70.2 Kurdish
20.4 Armenian
9.4 Karakalpak
Kyp
03-05-2020, 12:30 PM
Don't mix ancients with modern ones. Also, I would use Lezgins or at least Georgians instead of Abkhazians.

Kurd
Armenian
Lezgin
Karakalpak
Lebanese

What is the relation with Lebanese though? My goal is not to make the distances as tight as possible. It should make sense from an historic point of view in the most simple way possible

g25 is too accurate for reality in my opinion too.
Leto
03-05-2020, 12:48 PM
What is the relation with Lebanese though?
And why Bedouin? I used the Lebs as a purely Near Eastern population. And none of the Azeri references picked it up.
Leto
03-05-2020, 12:51 PM
Azeris are pretty much a mix of Northwest Iranic people like Kurds, North Caucasians like Lezgins and a Turkic population like Karakalpaks plus maybe some Armenian/Anatolian mixed in there.
Thracian
03-05-2020, 12:52 PM
Good idea and seems good. However, I also agree with Leto, you should use ancient and modern samples separately.

I personally would separate regions like below,

-Caucasus, Georgians
-Eastern Anatolia and Mesopotamian, Armenian and Assyrian
-Northeast Anatolian, Armenian Hemshin and Greek trabzon
-Iranic, would exclude Bandari also add Kurds and Talysh
-Turkic, Turkmen Uzbekistan
Kyp
03-05-2020, 12:55 PM
And why Bedouin? I used the Lebs as a purely Near Eastern population. And none of the Azeri references picked it up.

Abbasids etc.? I could integrate a Levantine component too. Aren't there more pure Levantine groups than Lebanese?


Azeris are pretty much a mix of Northwest Iranic people like Kurds, North Caucasians like Lezgins and a Turkic population like Karakalpaks plus maybe some Armenian/Anatolian mixed in there.

I used Anatolian because it is known that Shia Turks from Anatolia went to Azerbaijan in Ottoman times.
Kyp
03-05-2020, 01:03 PM
Good idea and seems good. However, I also agree with Leto, you should use ancient and modern samples separately.

I personally would separate regions like below,

-Caucasus, Georgians
-Eastern Anatolia and Mesopotamian, Armenian and Assyrian
-Northeast Anatolian, Armenian Hemshin and Greek trabzon
-Iranic, would exclude Bandari also add Kurds and Talysh
-Turkic, Turkmen Uzbekistan

I used Medieval Iranian and Kurds because they lack Turkic/Mongol DNA, other than that they're almost identical to modern ones but I understand the issue..


I will take yours and Leto's advice into consideration thanks:thumb001:
porpozontokonto
03-05-2020, 01:22 PM
why are you using uzbekstani turkmen samples as basis for turkic? just curious
Kyp
03-05-2020, 01:37 PM
why are you using uzbekstani turkmen samples as basis for turkic? just curious

Couldn't find a better one for now. I only used those who are available from the spreadsheets.
I'm open for other suggestions. Any idea?
Oghuz
03-05-2020, 01:39 PM
Target: Azeri_Turkey
Distance: 2.1210% / 0.02121004
52.8 Armenian
28.6 Kurdish
10.2 Karakalpak
8.4 Tabasaran

Target: Azeri_Dagestan
Distance: 1.0911% / 0.01091129
38.8 Tabasaran
29.6 Kurdish
24.8 Armenian
6.8 Karakalpak

Target: Azeri
Distance: 0.8776% / 0.00877632
53.4 Kurdish
32.6 Armenian
11.0 Karakalpak
3.0 Tabasaran

Target: Azeri_Turkey
Distance: 2.1874% / 0.02187441 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Kurdish
42.2 Armenian
8.6 Karakalpak
5.6 Tabasaran

Target: Azeri_Dagestan
Distance: 1.2004% / 0.01200412 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Kurdish
38.2 Tabasaran
13.8 Armenian
5.2 Karakalpak

Target: Azeri
Distance: 1.0525% / 0.01052496 | ADC: 0.25x
70.2 Kurdish
20.4 Armenian
9.4 Karakalpak

Do you know what kind of Kurdish is that ?
Kyp
03-05-2020, 02:11 PM
Version 2:
https://i.imgur.com/OTOuP4n.png

Anatolian: Armenian, Cappadocian, Hemshin, Trabzon
Arab: Bedouin
Caucasus: Lezgins
Iranian: Persians, Kurds, Caspians
Levantine: Lebanese
Mongolian: Mongolians
Turkic: Turkmen Uzbekistan

Maybe in the next step I will split Anatolian ancestry and split Caucasian and Lezgin ancestry since Lezgins are a minority in Azerbaijan too.
Ion Basescul
03-05-2020, 06:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/J5cgVif.png
Version 1:
Calculator used: Dodecad k12b
Samples:
Anatolian: Armenian, Cappadocians combined
Caucasus: Abkhazians,
Arab: Bedouins
Iranian: Medieval Iranians from Iran and Kurdish ares combined
Mongol: Mongolians
Turkic: Turkmens from Uzbekistan


any idea how I can improve it?

Note: Iranian Azeris have by far the highest sample size. Turkmen_Uzbekistan eats additional Iranic ancestry.

Yes, I suggest running this at a distance of 0.25x, because some components are similar (Anatolian, Caucasus and Iranian).
Kyp
03-05-2020, 06:40 PM
Yes, I suggest running this at a distance of 0.25x, because some components are similar (Anatolian, Caucasus and Iranian).

0.25x

https://i.imgur.com/sJqm07O.png
Thracian
03-05-2020, 07:43 PM
0.25x

https://i.imgur.com/sJqm07O.png

It looks good to me. Caucasian+ Eastern Anatolian+Iranic+Turkic fits with Azeris.
Kyp
03-05-2020, 08:03 PM
It looks good to me. Caucasian+ Eastern Anatolian+Iranic+Turkic fits with Azeris.

Yes. Didn't want to overcomplicate it.
Babak
03-05-2020, 08:06 PM
Yep just as i thought. Turkic+caucasian+Iranic mix. Explains the long, powerful Turco-Iranian legacy of west asia perfectly well.
Kyp
03-05-2020, 08:07 PM
Double
Fedora
03-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Azerbaijan_Dagestan is missing. I think they get modeled as 2/3 Azerbaijani+ 1/3 local dagestan ethnic

The northern Azerbaijanis on the border in this video look very kavkaz, are they ethnic Azerbaijanis? They sing about Dede Korkut so I think thy are ethnic Azerbaijanis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B281djZZb44
Kyp
03-05-2020, 08:44 PM
Azerbaijan_Dagestan is missing. I think they get modeled as 2/3 Azerbaijani+ 1/3 local dagestan ethnic

The northern Azerbaijanis on the border in this video look very kavkaz, are they ethnic Azerbaijanis? They sing about Dede Korkut so I think thy are ethnic Azerbaijanis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B281djZZb44

They probably will be similar to Azeris from Dagestan, will include them.
Leto
03-05-2020, 08:50 PM
They probably will be similar to Azeris from Dagestan, will include them.
There was a guy on Anthrogenica, Musayev or something like that. He identified as Azerbaijani and said his family spoke Azerbaijani but his results were heavily Lezgin-shifted. I don't know if he still posts.
Kyp
03-05-2020, 08:51 PM
Azerbaijan_Dagestan is missing.


Added:

https://i.imgur.com/tMoK4DJ.jpg

Looks like what binds all Azeris is Iranian and Turkmen ancestry.
Leto
03-05-2020, 09:15 PM
There was a guy on Anthrogenica, Musayev or something like that. He identified as Azerbaijani and said his family spoke Azerbaijani but his results were heavily Lezgin-shifted. I don't know if he still posts.
Here he is, I just dug him the fuck up xD

I'm from north of Azerbaijan,my family speak Azeri for last 3-4 generations.However,this is my result.

Mine and mother's results:

1 Caucasus 41.14
2 Gedrosia 23.06
3 North_European 16.58
4 Atlantic_Med 7.73
5 Southwest_Asian 7.01
6 Siberian 2.15
7 South_Asian 1.25
8 Southeast_Asian 0.92
9 Northwest_African 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 9.1
2 Turks (Behar) 12.25
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 12.55
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.55
5 Lezgins (Behar) 12.78
6 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.25
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.72
8 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 14.67
9 Iranians (Behar) 16.01
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 16.33
11 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.88
12 Adygei (HGDP) 17.4
13 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 18.47
14 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 18.61
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.54
16 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 20.01
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.2
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.37
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.74
20 Armenians (Behar) 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 28.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.08
2 69.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 30.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.21
3 69% Lezgins (Behar) + 31% Syrians (Behar) @ 5.14
4 66.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 33.7% Lebanese (Behar) @ 5.16
5 70% Lezgins (Behar) + 30% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.32
6 67.3% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 32.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.42
7 51.3% Turks (Behar) + 48.7% Lezgins (Behar) @ 5.48
8 52.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 47.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.48
9 70.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 29.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.61
10 71.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 28.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 5.62
11 61.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 38.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 5.67
12 61.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 38.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.7
13 62.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 5.77
14 69.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 30.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 5.78
15 73.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 26.6% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 5.85
16 68.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 31.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 5.86
17 83.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.91
18 69.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 30.8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 5.95
19 83% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 17% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 6.07
20 83.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 6.07

-------------------------------------------------------

1 Caucasus 41.66
2 Gedrosia 23.96
3 North_European 16.93
4 Southwest_Asian 8.3
5 Atlantic_Med 5.11
6 Siberian 1.77
7 East_Asian 0.92
8 Southeast_Asian 0.83
9 Northwest_African 0.28
10 South_Asian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 8.51
2 Lezgins (Behar) 11.68
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 11.8
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.14
5 Kurd (Dodecad) 12.54
6 Turks (Behar) 13.05
7 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 13.9
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.99
9 Iranians (Behar) 15.64
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 16.03
11 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 16.88
12 Adygei (HGDP) 17.11
13 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 18.04
14 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 18.04
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.53
16 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.64
17 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.48
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.54
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.64
20 Assyrian (Dodecad) 21.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 29.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 3.06
2 67.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 32.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.54
3 72.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.63
4 74.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 25.8% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.89
5 58.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 41.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.2
6 67.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 32.8% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.3
7 60% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 40% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 4.32
8 79.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 20.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 4.37
9 61.8% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 38.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.46
10 61.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 38.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.71
11 68.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 31.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.82
12 50.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 49.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 4.99
13 52.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 47.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 5.06
14 53% Kurd (Dodecad) + 47% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.11
15 53.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 46.6% Turks (Behar) @ 5.12
16 75.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 24.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 5.15
17 53.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) + 46.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.17
18 71.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 28.5% Druze (HGDP) @ 5.22
19 73.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 26.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 5.32
20 54.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 45.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.34

Yes.As most of my family members' and close relatives' phenotype strikingly differ from average Azeris actually these results didn't surprise me.Nowadays,the assimilation is relevant in my region,so I have some Lezgin relatives who don't know their language.
Leto
03-05-2020, 09:18 PM
His K13

North_Atlantic 8.21
Baltic 10.61
West_Med 7.01
West_Asian 43.67
East_Med 20.30
Red_Sea 1.85
South_Asian 6.00
Siberian 1.40
Amerindian 0.94

--------------------------

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kumyk @ 5.033454
2 Adygei @ 6.554614
3 Balkar @ 9.394854
4 Kabardin @ 9.797365
5 North_Ossetian @ 9.867917
6 Chechen @ 10.043056
7 Lezgin @ 10.251137
8 Ossetian @ 10.475161
9 Georgian @ 12.295501
10 Tabassaran @ 12.877473
11 Kurdish @ 13.848005
12 Azeri @ 14.508861
13 Abhkasian @ 15.027512
14 Iranian @ 16.109489
15 Turkmen @ 17.728014
16 Turkish @ 18.289423
17 Armenian @ 20.363911
18 Georgian_Jewish @ 22.306107
19 Tadjik @ 22.455046
20 Nogay @ 23.418072

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechen +50% Kurdish @ 3.378179


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kumyk +25% Kurdish +25% Tabassaran @ 2.942457

-----------------------------

1 Adygei + Kumyk + Kurdish + Tabassaran @ 2.527125
2 Adygei + Armenian + Kumyk + Tabassaran @ 2.548088
3 Armenian + Kumyk + Lezgin + Tabassaran @ 2.562782
4 Armenian + Chechen + Kumyk + Tabassaran @ 2.582057
5 Azeri + Georgian + Kumyk + Tabassaran @ 2.689592
6 Adygei + Assyrian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.698584
7 Adygei + Kumyk + Kurdish + Lezgin @ 2.727424
8 Adygei + Assyrian + Chechen + Tabassaran @ 2.780027
9 Armenian + Kumyk + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.781755
10 Adygei + Armenian + Lezgin + Tabassaran @ 2.796782
11 Assyrian + Ossetian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.799594
12 Armenian + Chechen + Kumyk + Lezgin @ 2.801898
13 Assyrian + Lezgin + Ossetian + Tabassaran @ 2.810184
14 Armenian + Kumyk + Lezgin + Lezgin @ 2.823604
15 Georgian + Lezgin + Tabassaran + Turkish @ 2.841753
16 Adygei + Chechen + Kumyk + Kurdish @ 2.842728
17 Adygei + Armenian + Chechen + Tabassaran @ 2.871344
18 Adygei + Armenian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 2.880977
19 Adygei + Assyrian + Lezgin + Tabassaran @ 2.895761
20 Abhkasian + Lezgin + Tabassaran + Turkish @ 2.909501
Kyp
03-05-2020, 09:21 PM
Here he is, I just dug him the fuck up xD


As expected:

Distance to: Azeri_North
3.31409113 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.33198800 Circassian
9.68516391 Kumyks
10.38256230 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.54936017 Azerbaijani
10.78831312 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.20210248 Avar_Dagestan
11.41870395 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.41870395 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.81310713 Zaza
12.11194865 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.85383600 Turk_East
12.98247280 Turk_Central_East
12.98377064 Turk_Southeast
13.53278981 Kurds
13.54725433 Turk_South
13.60508728 Iranian
13.81667109 Lezgins
13.81827051 Turk_Anatolia
13.89873016 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.15557487 Turk_Central_West
14.32949406 Kurd
14.38313596 Kurd_Sorani
14.51565362 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.66572194 Iran_Khorasan
Kaspias
03-07-2020, 10:29 AM
Couldn't find a better one for now. I only used those who are available from the spreadsheets.
I'm open for other suggestions. Any idea?

You can use the models i posted which are using extractions
Kyp
04-19-2020, 09:22 AM
If sample removed from source:

Azerbaijan Republic:
Target: Azerbaijani
Distance: 0.6406% / 0.64059022 | ADC: 0.25x
51.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
24.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
21.2 Turk_Southeast
1.4 Iran_Khorasan
1.0 Yagnobi
0.6 Lithuanians
0.2 Japanese
0.2 Polish

Azerbaijani Iran:
Target: Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance: 0.5013% / 0.50131740 | ADC: 0.25x
60.2 Azerbaijani
16.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.4 Lur_Iran
4.4 Kurd
0.4 Iranian
0.4 Mozabite
0.2 Dai


Azerbaijani Turkey:
Target: Azerbaijani_Turkey
Distance: 0.6420% / 0.64200221 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 Azerbaijani
23.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.6 Georgian_Adjara
0.4 Circassian

Azerbaijani Dagestan:
Target: Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Distance: 0.8753% / 0.87528383 | ADC: 0.25x
52.0 Ingush
16.2 Avar
15.2 Iran_Central_East
7.8 Kurds
4.8 Kurd_Sorani
4.0 Azerbaijani

Azerbaijani Karabakh:
Target: Azerbaijani_Karabakh
Distance: 0.9831% / 0.98305081 | ADC: 0.25x
47.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
19.8 Zaza
12.4 Azerbaijani
11.6 Uzbekistan_Jews
3.6 Adygei
2.2 Georgia_Jews
2.0 Turk_East
1.0 Turk_Ahiska
Kyp
04-19-2020, 06:23 PM
Some Azerbaijani results:

Kars+Erzurum
Gedrosian: 20.28
Siberian: 3.12
Northwest_African: 0.22
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 11.71
North_European: 6.50
South_Asian 2.48
East_African 0.36
Southwest_Asian: 10.98
East_Asian: 2.44
Caucasian: 41.70
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Kars_Erzurum
3.61069245 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.11690336 Azerbaijani
5.21645473 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.34858860 Turk_Southeast
5.89004244 Turk_East
5.98724478 Turk_Central_East
6.27184183 Zaza
6.60318105 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.84940762 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.92932532 Turkmen_Iraq
8.06784358 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.07123287 Turk_South
8.71208930 Turk_Anatolia
8.75683733 Turk_Central_West
9.06396712 Kurd_Sorani
9.64101654 Armenian_East
10.45027751 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.84457468 Lur_Iran
10.91092572 Kurds
10.95665551 Iranian
11.08080773 Kurd
11.23704143 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.58760545 Armenian_West
11.79826682 Turk_Southwest
12.75773883 Iranian_Fars

Target: Kars_Erzurum
Distance: 1.6261% / 1.62606737 | ADC: 0.25x
78.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.0 Lur_Iran
5.6 Georgian_Adjara
5.4 Armenian_West
3.4 Sardinian

Baku
Gedrosian: 20.19
Siberian: 2.62
Northwest_African: 2.44
Southeast_Asian: 1.04
Atlantic_Med: 5.34
North_European: 9.71
South_Asian 2.09
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.51
East_Asian: 4.13
Caucasian: 41.91
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Baku
4.98313155 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.38078990 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.87989796 Azerbaijani
7.32062839 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.70795044 Zaza
8.08350790 Turk_Southeast
8.16702516 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.19384525 Turk_East
8.76338976 Turk_Central_East
9.35621718 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.45202095 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.46670481 Turk_South
9.68380607 Turkmen_Iraq
9.84047763 Kurd_Sorani
10.73524103 Turk_Anatolia
10.76738594 Kurds
10.77091454 Iranian
10.87412525 Kurd
11.23733509 Turk_Central_West
11.58510250 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.63232135 Lur_Iran
11.84621459 Ingush
11.91630396 Armenian_East
12.28425822 Circassian
12.61185950 Iranian_Fars

Target: Baku
Distance: 1.6076% / 1.60762111 | ADC: 0.25x
78.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
17.6 North_Ossetians
2.6 Iranian_Jews
1.0 Mozabite
0.6 Korean
0.2 Chinese

Baku+Ardabil
Gedrosian: 20.56
Siberian: 1.04
Northwest_African: 2.73
Southeast_Asian: 0.57
Atlantic_Med: 7.31
North_European: 7.84
South_Asian 2.10
East_African 0.16
Southwest_Asian: 12.31
East_Asian: 3.67
Caucasian: 41.70
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Ardabil_Baku
4.04051977 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.08368706 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.85381293 Azerbaijani
5.33709659 Zaza
5.84547688 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.11788362 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.51926376 Turk_Southeast
6.65935432 Turk_East
6.77918874 Turkmen_Iraq
7.44951676 Kurd_Sorani
8.02894140 Turk_Central_East
9.04053649 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.28877279 Kurds
9.44189070 Kurd
9.48597913 Turk_South
9.67676599 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.76323717 Lur_Iran
9.85166483 Iranian
9.91626946 Armenian_East
10.62929443 Turk_Anatolia
10.79758306 Turk_Central_West
11.37850166 Iranian_Fars
11.45619920 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.33514491 Armenian_West
12.64413303 Turk_Ahiska

Target: Ardabil_Baku
Distance: 1.4936% / 1.49357422 | ADC: 0.25x
74.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.6 Turk_Ahiska
8.6 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Mozabite
0.6 Japanese
0.2 JPT30
0.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Ağdam (Central-West)
Gedrosian: 19.46
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 2.10
Atlantic_Med: 10.12
North_European: 8.23
South_Asian 2.86
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.32
East_Asian: 2.98
Caucasian: 40.92
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Agdam_Azerbaijan
4.26078631 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.56112925 Azerbaijani
4.99089170 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.02119508 Turk_Southeast
5.93368351 Zaza
6.21863329 Turk_East
6.29174062 Turkmen_Iraq
6.33865916 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.61613936 Turk_Central_East
7.71706550 Kurd_Sorani
7.93537019 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.72024082 Turk_South
9.03486580 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.10811177 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.14884692 Turk_Central_West
9.34485420 Turk_Anatolia
9.63007788 Armenian_East
10.51245452 Kurds
10.84340352 Lur_Iran
11.11070205 Kurd
11.27996897 Iranian
11.46153131 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.59428307 Armenian_West
12.09487908 Iranian_Fars
12.46594160 Turk_Southwest

Target: Agdam_Azerbaijan
Distance: 2.1241% / 2.12411822 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Azerbaijani
24.6 Turk_East
19.8 Turkmen_Iraq
11.0 Armenian_East
2.0 Greek
0.8 BONDA
0.6 KHV30
0.4 Miaozu

Ağstafa (Northwest)
Gedrosian: 20.66
Siberian: 4.09
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.64
Atlantic_Med: 10.51
North_European: 8.46
South_Asian 1.70
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.29
East_Asian: 5.23
Caucasian: 37.44
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijan_Agstafa
3.82447382 Azerbaijani
4.09358034 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.90873711 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.10778817 Turk_Southeast
6.02933661 Turk_South
6.46540022 Turk_Central_East
6.80402087 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.12088478 Turk_Anatolia
7.55844561 Turk_Central_West
8.35822350 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.99860545 Zaza
9.07482782 Turkmen_Iraq
9.15186320 Turk_Southwest
9.64425217 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.71093198 Yoruk
9.77677861 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.13397750 Turk_East
10.30580419 Kurd_Sorani
11.36351178 Iran_Khorasan
11.52655196 Turk_Northwest
11.83577627 Iranian
11.91673613 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.97938229 Kurd
12.10623806 Iranian_Fars
12.11066059 Lur_Iran

Target: Azerbaijan_Agstafa
Distance: 1.5403% / 1.54031177 | ADC: 0.25x
64.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.8 Turkmens
6.8 Azerbaijani
1.6 French_Basque
0.6 Han
0.4 Tujia

Azerbaijani_Georgia
Gedrosian: 20.43
Siberian: 2.33
Northwest_African: 1.14
Southeast_Asian: 3.14
Atlantic_Med: 8.03
North_European: 9.78
South_Asian 0.18
East_African 0.06
Southwest_Asian: 14.58
East_Asian: 3.04
Caucasian: 37.29
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Georgia
4.71467920 Azerbaijani
5.02838940 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.51478921 Turk_Southeast
5.97586814 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.34829898 Turkmen_Iraq
7.05890218 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.89471342 Zaza
7.89774651 Kurd_Sorani
8.28258414 Turk_Central_East
8.31419870 Turk_South
9.21944684 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.46943504 Turk_Anatolia
9.50604544 Turk_Central_West
9.69504513 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.27223929 Turk_East
10.62837711 Kurd
10.78120587 Kurds
11.04515278 Iranian_Fars
11.10268886 Lur_Iran
11.40247342 Iranian
11.41334307 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.55784582 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.69395570 Turk_Southwest
12.02208801 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.83950155 Iran_Khorasan

Target: Azerbaijani_Georgia
Distance: 2.3486% / 2.34862551 | ADC: 0.25x
37.8 Turkmen_Iraq
30.8 Azerbaijani
13.4 Turk_South
8.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.2 Lak
2.4 Saudis
2.0 Dai
0.8 Ingush

Gabala (possibly ethnically Udi)
Gedrosian: 22.76
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.33
North_European: 8.41
South_Asian 0.60
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.70
East_Asian: 1.22
Caucasian: 45.98
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Gabala_Udi
5.22688244 Zaza
5.38231363 Turk_East
6.58469437 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.59012139 Armenian_East
7.42764431 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.54407052 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.03476198 Kurds
8.19582211 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.44090043 Turk_Ahiska
8.65814068 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.87871612 Azerbaijani
9.72097732 Kurd
9.73590776 Turkmen_Iraq
9.85507991 Kurd_Sorani
9.92777417 Armenian_West
10.16136802 Iranian
10.40960614 Turk_Southeast
10.79581400 Turk_Central_East
10.98371977 Lur_Iran
11.59765925 Assyrian
11.77318988 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.92735511 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.28378606 Azerbaijan_Jews
12.33652301 Georgia_Jews
12.76921297 Hemshin

Target: Gabala_udi
Distance: 1.6342% / 1.63422889 | ADC: 0.25x
45.8 Zaza
31.4 Turk_Ahiska
9.0 Kurds
7.8 Armenian_East
5.0 Ingush
0.8 French_Basque
0.2 Dargin
Kyp
04-19-2020, 09:14 PM
Naxcivan (Southwest Republic)
Gedrosian: 22.79
Siberian: 1.87
Northwest_African: 0.73
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.81
North_European: 7.67
South_Asian 2.10
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.45
East_Asian: 3.27
Caucasian: 37.50
SSA: 0.77

Distance to: Naxcivan_Azeri
3.12734712 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.29739291 Azerbaijani
4.18211669 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.67585286 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.87681248 Turkmen_Iraq
5.21836181 Turk_Southeast
5.60243697 Zaza
5.70308688 Kurd_Sorani
6.92693294 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.14521332 Lur_Iran
8.36906207 Kurd
8.55365419 Iranian_Fars
8.65663907 Turk_Central_East
8.77765344 Iranian
8.91993274 Kurds
9.15207627 Turk_South
9.90341860 Turk_East
10.25418451 Turk_Central_West
10.28154658 Turk_Anatolia
10.40187964 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.45433881 Iranians
10.60613030 Iran_Central_East
10.76918753 Iran_Khorasan
11.10293655 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.25500714 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Naxcivan_Azeri
Distance: 1.1921% / 1.19211297 | ADC: 0.25x
48.0 Azerbaijani
31.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.2 Turkmen_Iraq
1.2 French_Basque
1.2 Kurd
1.2 Makrani
0.4 Japanese
0.2 JPT30
0.2 Yoruba
Leto
04-19-2020, 11:13 PM
This one is the most remarkable


Ağstafa (Northwest)
Gedrosian: 20.66
Siberian: 4.09
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.64
Atlantic_Med: 10.51
North_European: 8.46
South_Asian 1.70
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.29
East_Asian: 5.23
Caucasian: 37.44
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijan_Agstafa
3.82447382 Azerbaijani
4.09358034 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.90873711 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.10778817 Turk_Southeast
6.02933661 Turk_South
6.46540022 Turk_Central_East
6.80402087 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.12088478 Turk_Anatolia
7.55844561 Turk_Central_West
8.35822350 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.99860545 Zaza
9.07482782 Turkmen_Iraq
9.15186320 Turk_Southwest
9.64425217 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.71093198 Yoruk
9.77677861 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.13397750 Turk_East
10.30580419 Kurd_Sorani
11.36351178 Iran_Khorasan
11.52655196 Turk_Northwest
11.83577627 Iranian
11.91673613 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.97938229 Kurd
12.10623806 Iranian_Fars
12.11066059 Lur_Iran

Target: Azerbaijan_Agstafa
Distance: 1.5403% / 1.54031177 | ADC: 0.25x
64.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.8 Turkmens
6.8 Azerbaijani
1.6 French_Basque
0.6 Han
0.4 Tujia

Almost 11 percent Mongoloid.
Kyp
04-19-2020, 11:25 PM
Azerbaijani from Aghjabadi district:

Gedrosian: 19.94
Siberian: 2.26
Northwest_African: 2.47
Southeast_Asian: 1.89
Atlantic_Med: 8.21
North_European: 9.41
South_Asian 0.92
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.02
East_Asian: 4.27
Caucasian: 40.62
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Aghjabadi_District
3.60406715 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.53802821 Azerbaijani
4.63316307 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.32158208 Turk_Southeast
6.65610246 Turk_Central_East
7.54633686 Turk_South
7.56374246 Turk_East
7.60310463 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.62482787 Zaza
7.84224458 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.19728614 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.53196929 Turk_Anatolia
8.94394767 Turk_Central_West
9.05917215 Turkmen_Iraq
9.97332943 Kurd_Sorani
10.03894915 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.92190002 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.26313012 Turk_Southwest
11.27583700 Kurds
11.30816077 Kurd
11.48488137 Iranian
11.79811002 Armenian_East
12.06650322 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.06992958 Lur_Iran
12.07289940 Yoruk

Target: Azerbaijani_Aghjabadi_District
Distance: 1.5829% / 1.58290251 | ADC: 0.25x
79.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.6 Ingush
7.0 Turk_Ahiska
1.6 She
1.4 Mozabite
0.4 Kumyks


Azerbaijani from Khachmaz (Xaçmaz) in the Northeast

Gedrosian: 23.18
Siberian: 0.88
Northwest_African: 0.53
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.80
North_European: 13.44
South_Asian 1.02
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.16
East_Asian: 2.19
Caucasian: 41.79
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
5.51390062 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.18945060 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.20787763 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.40377606 Azerbaijani
7.43215312 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.64179298 Zaza
8.17979217 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.25437734 Kurds
9.43693276 Ingush
10.02664949 Kurd_Sorani
10.11867086 Iranian
10.13160895 Kurd
10.13939840 Turk_East
10.21825817 Turk_Southeast
10.73944133 Turkmen_Iraq
11.37817648 Turk_Central_East
11.40805417 Circassian
11.81033446 Lur_Iran
11.85611656 Kumyks
12.25765883 Turk_South
12.54567256 Iranian_Fars
12.71197074 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.80094918 Iran_Mazandaran
12.88695076 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.09915646 Turk_Anatolia

Target: Azerbaijani_Khachmaz
Distance: 1.5147% / 1.51468573 | ADC: 0.25x
71.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.6 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.8 Georgia_Jews
5.8 Zaza
5.0 Kurds
1.8 Yemen_Jews
0.4 Japanese
Kyp
04-19-2020, 11:26 PM
This one is the most remarkable

Almost 11 percent Mongoloid.

indeed
Kyp
05-16-2020, 01:02 PM
Known YDNA of important tribes:

Qajars: J-M267 (J1)
Mirza Muhammed Khan (Baku Afshars): N-M232 (N1b)
Javanshir (J2b2)
Mejgusu
05-16-2020, 01:07 PM
Iranian Azerbaijanis have, in my knowledge, a high amount of y-dna haplogroup Q, and a bit N. Contrary to Anatolian Turks, who have high amount of N and just a bit Q. How interesting, „same“ origins and people but different proportions of east eurasian haplogroups.
Kyp
06-01-2020, 08:51 AM
Averages out of all samples available to me at the moment:(including possible mixed individuals. Other ethnicities such as Kurds, Talysh, Udi not included)

AZ_IRAN,22.00352941,2.923529412,1.025882353,0.7794 11765,8.235294118,7.960588235,2.92,0.431176471,12. 31411765,2.801176471,38.53647059,0.057058824
AZ_REPUBLIC,21.67085714,1.819142857,0.799714286,0. 764,8.112285714,9.685142857,2.416571429,0.12942857 1,11.55742857,2.580571429,40.22771429,0.24
AZ_TURKEY,20.395,2.983125,0.47125,0.62125,9.203125 ,8.48625,2.51625,0.1025,11.27125,3.40625,40.40375, 0.178125


https://i.imgur.com/ydw33GM.png

Models if Azerbaijanis removed from the sheet:

Azerbaijan Republic:
Distance: 0.7971% / 0.79705775 | ADC: 0.25x
43.4 Turk_Southeast
42.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.0 Ingush
3.0 Qumuq
0.2 Miaozu


Azerbaijanis Turkey:
Distance: 0.5946% / 0.59455997 | ADC: 0.25x
41.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
22.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
18.6 Turk_Central_East
12.4 Turk_Southeast
3.2 Iran_Khorasan
1.4 Karachay


Azerbaijanis Iran:
Distance: 0.6277% / 0.62767333 | ADC: 0.25x
39.6 Turk_Southeast
30.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.6 Turkmen_Iran
1.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Leto
06-01-2020, 11:23 AM
Very interesting!
Kyp
06-01-2020, 08:02 PM
Very interesting!

yes. I've made a spreadsheet too with all the samples.
Leto
06-01-2020, 08:16 PM
yes. I've made a spreadsheet too with all the samples.
Give a link to the sheet please. I wonder how many samples you have compiled.
turan4
04-23-2022, 03:17 PM
yes. I've made a spreadsheet too with all the samples.

Can you send the link please?