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The Lawspeaker
03-08-2020, 12:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgiyW-l8TEY

On paper they should be two great allies. Something like the Batman and Robin or Frodo and Sam of international politics: they have the same partners, face the same threats and their economies are very interconnected. However, the truth is that Japan and South Korea don’t get along. Lately, things have got worse than ever. In fact, in July 2019, the Japanese government unleashed a trade war against South Korea. So, if you want to know what exactly is going on, why Japan made this decision and what consequences this new trade war might have, don't miss this video.

1R0N M4N XL
03-10-2020, 05:24 PM
S.koreans haven't let go of ww2.

(korean point of view) the most slap in the face for Koreans is that the Japanese make shrines for war criminals that raped their ancestors.

(Japanese side of things) is that those aren't war criminals but patriots who fought for their country.

sailormoon
04-11-2020, 12:19 AM
In fact, in July 2019, the Japanese government unleashed a trade war against South Korea. So, if you want to know what exactly is going on, why Japan made this decision and what consequences this new trade war might have, don't miss this video.


The Moon administration annulled the 2015 bilateral agreement on wartime comfort women signed by the previous Park administration. It further confiscated millions of dollars donated by the Japanese government to compensate for the victims of wartime sexual slavery, who could have received $100,000 each. But since the fund was liquidated by South Korea, the needy pensioners will not get a penny from the government. This is the direct cause of the ongoing trade war, by which South Korea is subjected to export controls until it agrees to get the 2015 deal back on track. The current Moon administration wants to deepen the rift between the two nations, while the previous Park administration was a peacemaker that worked tirelessly to resolve the comfort women issue. As a son of North Korean refugees, President Moon of Korea is acting as an agent of the communist country to break up the trilateral alliance between Japan, South Korea and the United States to contain North Korea, which is why Trump doesn't trust Moon very much. In a speech last year, Trump suggested South Korea was "rich as hell and probably doesn't like us too much."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2NmE62bmhk



SEOUL – A Japanese-funded foundation set up in South Korea under a 2015 bilateral agreement on the issue of “comfort women” has been formally dissolved, a person closely involved with the organization said Friday.

After deciding in November to dissolve the Reconciliation and Healing Foundation, the South Korean government took procedural steps toward the dissolution without consent from the Japanese government.

The term comfort women is a euphemism used to refer to women who provided sex, including those who did so against their will, for Japanese troops before and during World War II.

In Tokyo on Friday, Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Yasutoshi Nishimura said Japan “can never accept” the decision to dissolve the foundation.

Through a diplomatic channel, Tokyo separately repeated its call to the South Korean government to implement the agreement.

Rgvgjhvv
04-11-2020, 12:42 AM
Lol there are about a million reasons why

Smeagol
04-11-2020, 12:43 AM
A lot of Asian countries in general still hold a grudge against the Japs for World War II and Korea was occupied even long before that.

Dark Snyper Lord 666
07-09-2020, 06:15 PM
Lol there are about a million reasons why

I would say this, the second biggest "japanese attack" after colonisation and WW2 (connected really, as the main effect on Korea during WW2 was not military/battle related but comfort women, suppression of rights, occupation, forced labour etc) was the 1592 invasion. There have probably been hundreds easily of tv shows and movies set in this time. It is the default "us vs them" straightforward war in Koreans minds.

Basically, they've fought with japan on and off for hundreds of years then were colonised. Then most importantly, governments for the past 60 years have used Japan as the eternal enemy when they needed to rally people into a hate-frenzy.

I think its mostly bullshit, but the government knows how useful it is to have this great devil they can pull out at any time and 99% of koreans fall for it. Korean and Japanese societies are pretty similar for the most part, compared to all other possible countries.

RandomGuy20
07-09-2020, 07:15 PM
I remember talking to a Filipino mate about conflict amongst Asian people in the late 1900's in Aus. He was saying that pretty much all Asians where at each other throats (at least here in Aus) - gang warfare, people walking strapped with knives and cleavers, frequent fighting/stabbings etc. A lot different nowadays.
Can't say about in the old world though.

Dark Snyper Lord 666
07-10-2020, 02:32 PM
I remember talking to a Filipino mate about conflict amongst Asian people in the late 1900's in Aus. He was saying that pretty much all Asians where at each other throats (at least here in Aus) - gang warfare, people walking strapped with knives and cleavers, frequent fighting/stabbings etc. A lot different nowadays.
Can't say about in the old world though.

Re; that anecdote, its such a funny thing.

In the popular image, at least for me, i CAN imagine certain asian ethnicities engaging in that, but not others.

You know exactly what I mean. Japanese "don't" do that.

Yet for thousands of years this is what Japanese did, and they basically had to be force-cucked by other countries so that they don't do that anymore - because they've proven that they're too good at it.

Funny to think that that happens alot in different ways to different peoples.

Joso
07-10-2020, 02:44 PM
WWII maybe

matut
04-10-2023, 09:55 PM
Koreans are a very homogeneous people. I stereotype many ethnicities, but stereotypes of Koreans are much more accurate than usual.

In general I find Koreans to be either way more high strung than Jap/Chinese, or way more blank. The "East Asian less creativity" meme is definitely a Korean thing. Way fewer exceptions to this than for any other ethnicity too

Kriptc06
04-10-2023, 10:45 PM
Japan invaded Korea and commited many war crimes in the past

https://www.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/photos/1840466548/display_1500/stock-vector-map-of-empire-of-japan-japanese-empire-during-wwii-in-showing-countries-within-asia-hand-1840466548.jpg

Incal
04-11-2023, 12:59 AM
Korea was even part of the Japanese Empire.

sailormoon
04-11-2023, 09:53 PM
In short, Korea was Japan's Ireland. The Japan–Korea Annexation Treaty of 1910 made Korea a Japanese colony until 1945. It was not a military takeover. The last emperor of the Korean Empire refused to sign the treaty. The United Kingdom acquiesced to the annexation, so did the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan%E2%80%93Korea_Treaty_of_1910