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Dr_Maul
03-12-2020, 01:11 PM
Hey guys, I'm making this post to see what people here think about this issue. Do you think that Kosovo belongs to a 'greater Albania', should remain part of Serbia, or become an independent nation fully. I am not biased or anything but I am just curious to see your guys's reasonings and rationale for believing your choice, and to hear new opinions.

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 05:34 PM
Either independent or part of Albania.

I see no reason why a region that is majority Albanian would be part of Serbia or what good purpose it would even have.

It's also not a ''Greater Albania'' more like Ethnic Albania which was split into pieces by the Balkan Wars in the early 20th century. Ironically, it was the Serbs that back then expanded it's borders to create a 'Greater Serbia' which would include Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Croatia, Montenegro and Albania despite the Serbs forming a minority in some of those regions. They didn't get of course all of those regions but they did manage to get Kosovo with the help of Russia and the West until the Kosovar Albanians broke free again in the 90's.

Ülev
03-12-2020, 05:48 PM
Greater Montenegro

PAGANE
03-12-2020, 05:54 PM
Only the people who live there can decide this.

sean
03-12-2020, 06:19 PM
Republic of Kosovo is an independent country that deserves to have its own laws and sovereignty.

And Kosovo has the largest American military base in the Balkans (Camp Bondsteel), it's a standoff point of NATO against Russia. Russia, despite pouring massive amounts of money into defence (at the expense of health and education), simply don't have the same power and influence as US.

Moje ime
03-12-2020, 06:26 PM
Only the people who live there can decide this.

What about Serbian people who don't live there anymore because of Siptar terror?

Moje ime
03-12-2020, 06:27 PM
Republic of Kosovo is an independent country that deserves to have its own laws and sovereignty.

And Kosovo has the largest American military base in the Balkans (Camp Bondsteel), it's a standoff point of NATO against Russia.

American democracy

pulstar
03-12-2020, 06:28 PM
In order to be even considered to be a country it needs to settles some borderline human norms. So right now its just some territory - terra pericolosa :lol:

Dušan
03-12-2020, 06:29 PM
What about Serbian people who don't live there anymore because of Siptar terror?

+1

Or how about that people of Kardzhali province of her country to decide if they want to live in Bulgaria or Turkey?

Bosniensis
03-12-2020, 06:33 PM
Republic of Kosovo is an independent country that deserves to have its own laws and sovereignty.

And Kosovo has the largest American military base in the Balkans (Camp Bondsteel), it's a standoff point of NATO against Russia. Russia, despite pouring massive amounts of money into defence (at the expense of health and education), simply don't have the same power and influence as US.

You can count Serbs as Russians, there is no difference between those two.

If Putin told them to attack anyone in the world, they would do so.

They have blind obedience towards Russia.

PAGANE
03-12-2020, 06:57 PM
[QUOTE = Dušan; 6553993] +1

Или какво ще кажете, че хората от провинция Кърджали от нейната страна да решат дали искат да живеят в България или Турция? [/ ЦИТАТ]

The difference with Kardjali is that Kardzhali is in Bulgaria and Kosovo is a partially recognized country on the Balkan Peninsula. For any change to the status quo, it can only be decided by the people who live in that country today or by the war between interested third parties. People from the Kardzhali region are free to go to Turkey and if they wish they can live there. For your information, many of the Turks in Bulgaria who went to Turkey returned to live in Bulgaria again We have no problems with the Turks in Bulgaria

PAGANE
03-12-2020, 07:02 PM
[QUOTE = Моето име; 6553986] Какво ще кажете за сръбските хора, които вече не живеят там заради тепър на Сиптар? [/ ЦИТАТ]
If indeed this land was valuable to them, they would not leave it and would fight and defend themselves as their native land. Anyone who leaves their home land and leaves it in the hands of others may then have no claim. This is my personal opinion, so I wrote that only Kosovo citizens have the right to decide regardless of ethnicity and religion

Cristiano viejo
03-12-2020, 07:04 PM
Only the people who live there can decide this.

lol, what a nonsense. Then blacks and Moors that live in France will decide if France belongs to Africa in very few years :rolleyes:

PAGANE
03-12-2020, 07:13 PM
[QUOTE = Cristiano viejo; 6554063] хаха, каква глупост. Тогава чернокожите и маврите, които живеят във Франция, ще решат дали Франция принадлежи на Африка след много години :rolleyes:[/ ЦИТАТ]
Just as things are moving in your countries, it will not come as a surprise after two generations that you have citizens of a different ethnic origin who will have the right as full citizens of your countries to decide whether to turn France or another Western European country into an African analogue or succeed. to preserve your contemporary culture.

Ljubic
03-12-2020, 07:16 PM
A failed state

Moje ime
03-12-2020, 07:16 PM
[QUOTE = Моето име; 6553986] Какво ще кажете за сръбските хора, които вече не живеят там заради тепър на Сиптар? [/ ЦИТАТ]
If indeed this land was valuable to them, they would not leave it and would fight and defend themselves as their native land. Anyone who leaves their home land and leaves it in the hands of others may then have no claim. This is my personal opinion, so I wrote that only Kosovo citizens have the right to decide regardless of ethnicity and religion

What you said sounds pretty ignorant.

NATO and USA support Albanians for reason explained here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317359-KOSOVO-Serbia-Albania-or-Independant&p=6553977&viewfull=1#post6553977

We fight with USA and NATO for Kosovo as you know in 1999 year and that was mission impossible. After 1999 and bombing majority Serbs left as refugees, another wave of refugees was in 2004 or 2008 year, don't know for sure, anyway, it was during time NATO should protect anyone who lives there but they didn't. Albanians continued attacking Serb civils there until today. After 1999 year we don't have military there anymore to protect them.

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 07:20 PM
What about Serbian people who don't live there anymore because of Siptar terror?

Do you mean the exiled ones during the war ? If we are gonna go that far what about the Albanians that used to live in Nish but don't anymore because of Serbian terror ? Or what about all the Albanians that were deported from Kosovo and other areas and to Turkey ? Should be almost millions today. Also what about the Albanians that live in the diaspora due to largely also pressure from the Serbian regime. If we count all this together Serbs in Kosovo would of still been a minority even if those exiled people returned.

Voskos
03-12-2020, 07:20 PM
No idea.

Glauk
03-12-2020, 07:21 PM
Independent or even better part of albania

Serbia has this options

-war( nato doesn’t help us) they kill us all or we all flee to albania and Europe countries, serbia has now a vast depopulated land, which they can't populate(birth rates problems )also it will have a negative effect on serbia( ethnic cleansing on eu soil in the 21 century)
-war( nato help us) maybe the 3. World war starts who knows
- all Albanians magically vaporise over night from kosovo, vast depopulated land same shit as the first scenario
-serbia magically convince all Albanians to become loyal citizens of serbia, it will happen on the saint never day
- serbia takes the north of ks and population exchange happens, serbs living south of Iber go north, Albanian vice verse.

Bosniensis
03-12-2020, 07:22 PM
No idea.

You wouldn't support your Illyrian neighbours against Slavic invaders?

Jana
03-12-2020, 07:22 PM
Republic of Kosovo is an independent country that deserves to have its own laws and sovereignty.

Agree! :thumb001:

Serb enclaves in the north should get high autonomy however. I see no point in unification with Albania, no need to up tensions which are already enough high.
One people one state is outdated concept.

Moje ime
03-12-2020, 07:25 PM
Do you mean the exiled ones during the war ? If we are gonna go that far what about the Albanians that used to live in Nish but don't anymore because of Serbian terror ? Or what about all the Albanians that were deported from Kosovo and other areas and to Turkey ? Should be almost millions today. Also what about the Albanians that live in the diaspora due to largely also pressure from the Serbian regime. If we count all this together Serbs in Kosovo would of still been a minority even if those exiled people returned.

Any Muslim who lived in Balkan was expelled when Ottomans failed. It was a fair price of your serving to Asian religion and Asian conqueriors and price for getting settled in Kosovo during Ottomans as their servants while Orthodox Serbs were expeled. That was only fair and reasonable solution and should had been even more strict than it was.
Greeks did people exchange with Turkey in that time.

Renekton
03-12-2020, 07:25 PM
Albania

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 07:27 PM
[QUOTE = Cristiano viejo; 6554063] хаха, каква глупост. Тогава чернокожите и маврите, които живеят във Франция, ще решат дали Франция принадлежи на Африка след много години :rolleyes:[/ ЦИТАТ]
Just as things are moving in your countries, it will not come as a surprise after two generations that you have citizens of a different ethnic origin who will have the right as full citizens of your countries to decide whether to turn France or another Western European country into an African analogue or succeed. to preserve your contemporary culture.


That guy is an anti-Albanian troll

Pre-Slavic people in Kosovo were more like Albanians than they were like Serbs in language and genetics.

Voskos
03-12-2020, 07:27 PM
You wouldn't support your Illyrian neighbours against Slavic invaders?

In Kosovo the war wasn't between Albanian people and Serbian people. It was between NATO and Yugoslavia.

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 07:32 PM
Any Muslim who lived in Balkan was expelled when Ottomans failed. It was a fair price of your serving to Asian religion and Asian conqueriors and price for getting settled in Kosovo during Ottomans as their servants while Orthodox Serbs were expeled. That was only fair and reasonable solution and should had been even more strict than it was.
Greeks did people exchange with Turkey in that time.

You settled there when you expanded with your empire in the 13th century, prior to that it was described as a Bulgarian land actually. So technically It was also ruled by medieval Albanian Dukagjini and had a Catholic and pre-Ottoman Albanian population.

Moje ime
03-12-2020, 07:38 PM
You settled there when you expanded with your empire in the 13th century, prior to that it was described as a Bulgarian land actually. So technically It was also ruled by medieval Albanian Dukagjini and had a Catholic and pre-Ottoman Albanian population.

Dukagjini was in Northern Albania not in Kosovo.

First recognized state in Kosovo was Serbian empire and that is only important.

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 07:39 PM
Any Muslim who lived in Balkan was expelled when Ottomans failed. It was a fair price of your serving to Asian religion and Asian conqueriors and price for getting settled in Kosovo during Ottomans as their servants while Orthodox Serbs were expeled. That was only fair and reasonable solution and should had been even more strict than it was.
Greeks did people exchange with Turkey in that time.

You settled there when you expanded with your empire in the 13th century, prior to that it was described as a Bulgarian land actually. So technically It was also ruled by medieval Albanian Dukagjini and had a Catholic and pre-Ottoman Albanian population.

Glauk
03-12-2020, 07:46 PM
Independent or even better part of albania

Serbia has this options

-war( nato doesn’t help us) they kill us all or we all flee to albania and Europe countries, serbia has now a vast depopulated land, which they can't populate(birth rates problems )also it will have a negative effect on serbia( ethnic cleansing on eu soil in the 21 century)
-war( nato help us) maybe the 3. World war starts who knows
- all Albanians magically vaporise over night from kosovo, vast depopulated land same shit as the first scenario
-serbia magically convince all Albanians to become loyal citizens of serbia, it will happen on the saint never day
- serbia takes the north of ks and population exchange happens, serbs living south of Iber go north, Albanian vice verse.

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 07:52 PM
NATO didn't fight the war for Kosovars. They got involved later with airstrikes. You might as well include Russia then on the Serbian side.



Agree! :thumb001:

Serb enclaves in the north should get high autonomy however. I see no point in unification with Albania, no need to up tensions which are already enough high.
One people one state is outdated concept.

They actually got autonomy for a long time and been selling drugs there until the police cracked down on them and they started screaming ''Attack on Serbs'' , they also built walls in Mitrovica one of them still hasn't been taken down. I don't think such high priority should be given to a minority of course the Serbian state will use these people for their political propaganda to claim they are being abused. But there are plenty of other minorities in Kosovo, Albania, Serbia and many other countries. Should every minority now get high autonomy ? I don't think so.

As for unification with Albania it would of happened had it not been occupied but the thing is that not every Kosovar wants a unification now today same way not every Albanian from Albania cares about Kosovo anyway



[QUOTE = Dušan; 6553993] +1

Или какво ще кажете, че хората от провинция Кърджали от нейната страна да решат дали искат да живеят в България или Турция? [/ ЦИТАТ]

The difference with Kardjali is that Kardzhali is in Bulgaria and Kosovo is a partially recognized country on the Balkan Peninsula. For any change to the status quo, it can only be decided by the people who live in that country today or by the war between interested third parties. People from the Kardzhali region are free to go to Turkey and if they wish they can live there. For your information, many of the Turks in Bulgaria who went to Turkey returned to live in Bulgaria again We have no problems with the Turks in Bulgaria


Kardzhali is not even comparable to Kosovo, it's largely also a city within Bulgaria and a province where there is a large Bulgarian population whereas Kosovo and many surrounding areas were occupied through Serbian expansionism of the 20th century and constitutes whole regions and Serbs as a population weren't that numerous then. Also the Turks in the Balkans aren't natives like Albanians are.

Anyway there seems to be wrong with this forum as I keep getting double posted

Kamal900
03-12-2020, 07:53 PM
It should be just an independent state and so on, and the Serbs that are living in the North should be granted autonomy similar to the Kurds of Iraq.

brennus dux gallorum
03-12-2020, 07:56 PM
I support Serbia, but their behavior was undoubtedly so immature that they ended up "Nokia". Serbia could be what it is today+ Kosovo and rep. of Sprska, but thanks to Serbs' own mistake Serbia is what it is like today

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 08:11 PM
Many historians put origin of Albanians from Dardanians that lived in Kosovo, Southern Serbia and Macedonia before the Slavs came there

Also old name of the region




In 1854 within the context of 19th century historical linguistics, Johann Georg von Hahn was the first to propose that the names Dardanoi and Dardania were derived from a proto-Albanian word, meaning pear tree (dardha in modern Albanian the definite form, dardhë indefinite form < PAlb *dardā[8][9]), in view of the fact that toponyms related to fruits or animals are not unknown in the region (cf. Alb. dele/delmë "sheep" supposedly related to Dalmatia, Ulcinj in Montenegro < Alb. ujk, ulk "wolf" etc.). Opinions differ whether the ultimate etymon of this word in Proto-Indo-European was *g'hord-, or *dheregh-.[10]




Prior to Slavs the Balkans was just some Proto-Albanian land.

Moje ime
03-12-2020, 08:20 PM
Many historians put origin of Albanians from Dardanians that lived in Kosovo, Southern Serbia and Macedonia before the Slavs came there

Also old name of the region




Prior to Slavs the Balkans was just some Proto-Albanian land.

Those Balkan people assimilated with Serbs, that is what our dna proves.

Ülev
03-12-2020, 08:23 PM
Greater Montenegro


https://youtu.be/DfWRa-DWry4

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 08:33 PM
Bardylis was an Ancient king from modern Kosovo

''Pavle Ivić and Alexandru Rosetti have connected the name Bardylis with Albanian i bardhë "white",[6][7] while another opinion explains the name as a combination of i bardhë with Albanian yll "star". According to Stuart Edward Mann, this second version is a folk etymology.[8] According to German linguist Paul Kretschner the name Bardylis is connected with the word "bardulos", which according to him means "grey" in the language of the Messapii in southern Italy.[9] ''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardylis

WhiteFang
03-12-2020, 08:45 PM
Another interesting part

''Bardylis had a son named Cleitus, a grandson named Bardylis II.[20] The daughter of Bardylis II, princess Bircenna, married the Molossian king Pyrrhus of Epirus (c. 290 BC).''


Marriage between Ancient Albanians, Macedonians and Epirotans , and they also went at war with each other, however the Epirotans and Macedonians were also close to the Illyrian neighbors. At least the Epirotans seemed to of been.

Pyrrhus was also raised by Illyrians and crowned king by an Illyrian if I remember and Alexander of Macedon spent months in Illyria. From his mother side, Alexander was half Epirotan after all.

Bosniensis
03-12-2020, 08:59 PM
https://youtu.be/DfWRa-DWry4

I am rooting for Greater Kosovo!

JohnnyP
03-12-2020, 09:22 PM
Serbia of course.

Jana
03-12-2020, 09:27 PM
lol, what a nonsense. Then blacks and Moors that live in France will decide if France belongs to Africa in very few years :rolleyes:

Bad comparison. One can't dispute Albanian majority in Kosovo without disputing Serbian majority in Vojvodina.

Jana
03-12-2020, 09:29 PM
In Kosovo the war wasn't between Albanian people and Serbian people. It was between NATO and Yugoslavia.

Only in later stages. It was clear ethnic conflict before that.

Dušan
03-12-2020, 09:30 PM
Bad comparison. One can't dispute Albanian majority in Kosovo without disputing Serbian majority in Vojvodina.

That's all Serbia.
Mind your own business.

Jana
03-12-2020, 09:32 PM
That's all Serbia.
Mind your own business.

No it isn't. Vojvodina was Hungarian for centuries until you got after WW1 and you were not even absolute majority than, but less than 50% of population (highest relative majority).
Serb colonisation of Vojvodina is same as Albanian colonisation of Kosovo.

Dušan
03-12-2020, 09:36 PM
No it isn't. Vojvodina was Hungarian for centuries until you got after WW1 and you were not even absolute majority than, but less than 50% of population (highest relative majority).
Serb colonisation of Vojvodina is same as Albanian colonisation of Kosovo.

Yes it is Serbia and always will be Serbia.
We are absolute majority in Vojvodina, and we will be in Kosovo too, sooner or later.

Jana
03-12-2020, 09:40 PM
Yes it is Serbia and always will be Serbia.
We are absolute majority in Vojvodina, and we will be in Kosovo too, sooner or later.

It's not Serbia since you have no political control over it, let's be real. And since Serbia is shrinking demographically like all Slavic countries, your comment sounds like wishful thinking. Which is ofcourse your right.

Glauk
03-12-2020, 10:10 PM
Dardania je albanija i uvjek ce biti, crknite srpski dusmani

KrashNick
03-12-2020, 10:14 PM
I know that some of our neighbors can get trigged about this topic but Kosovo is a independent country and should stay as such.

Bosniensis
03-12-2020, 10:15 PM
Albanians on forum, long time no see. Most of them got banned or left.

Voskos
03-12-2020, 10:15 PM
I know that some of our neighbors can get trigged about this topic but Kosovo is a independent country and should stay as such.

what's your relations with kosovo serbs?

KrashNick
03-13-2020, 12:07 AM
what's your relations with kosovo serbs?

I personally worked with some , met quite a few decent ones . Many of them do accept reality but are afraid to admit in public like a young Serb who accepted to play for Kosovo football team , soon after that his parents got fired from their job by Serbs. Kosovo Serbs were also victims of Yugoslavian regime back in 1997-1999, today they are still getting brainwashed by Serbian government .

WhiteFang
03-13-2020, 12:15 AM
I personally worked with some , met quite a few decent ones . Many of them do accept reality but are afraid to admit in public like a young Serb who accepted to play for Kosovo football team , soon after that his parents got fired from their job by Serbs. Kosovo Serbs were also victims of Yugoslavian regime back in 1997-1999, today they are still getting brainwashed by Serbian government .

Serbs have been getting brainwashed by their government since 19th-20th century, just look at some of the delusional Serbian comments here, claiming Albanians who prior to the 19th century like most Balkan people didn't even have a national consciousness and were mostly tribal, that they were on a mission to eliminate Serbs when we were fighting each other because of different tribes up on til the 19th-20th century, also using word ''Siptar'' which is a derogatory term.

Albanians were always poor 2nd class citizens in Yugoslavia, we were turned into their arche enemies through their media and milosevic regime , suddenly we were these evil powerful dangerous Albanians


Just read this from a Serb for example

Our Negroes, Our Enemies (https://pescanik.net/our-negroes-our-enemies/)



These people really believe in some delusional nationalist fairytales whenever it suits their own agenda I noticed

Westbrook
03-13-2020, 12:31 AM
They can become the 51st state as long as they vote R

Div
03-13-2020, 01:04 AM
If you want my honest opinion I will say this:

I see the Kosovo situation as a national embarrassment. Early I have been supportive of Kosovo, but recently I have seen another aspect of it. I have to continue my research but I have begun to see things differently. I will not go into too much detail, because people may know me in real life but my family did things in the Kosovo war. I'm not a Kosovar Albanian.

Personally, since day one Kosovo and the naive Kosovar Albanians have been thralls of America. Whenever KLA war criminals are seen as guilty (perhaps they murdered Serbs or something) they go to the US so that they don't get in trouble. I know some even, its funny how the US doesn't bat an eye. The government there is corrupt, beyond corrupt even. We in Albania as well as Kosovo are a tiny pawn in the game that the western elite play. The Soros thing is exaggerated, Soros is a nice front piece because he's old and has nothing to lose. EVERY western corporation has an NGO and a mini-Soros foundation that poisons us. And they have their claws on the pocket of every Albanian politician. The rate of unemployment is shocking, especially among youth. If you see what is truly going on you realize that the economy is floating for now because of remittances from the diaspora as well as aid from the west.

Nationalism is permitted in Kosovo, America permits it because it means that the Kosovars will hate the Serbs always and they can use the conflict as leverage. Same thing I'm sure Russia likewise does with the Serbs. The Balkans is a land of misery, and especially in Kosovo the Faustian bargain they made with America will bite them in the ass. Look at how Albin Kurti and Ilir Meta are being massacred by this flock of western-educated fools for showing at least some backbone and free-thought. All these clowns are ivory tower Englishmen and Americans educated in Yale, the LSE (Fabian central!), it really shows how pathetic the state of affairs in that country is.

As for the Serbs, right now they are diplomatically cutting off Kosovo from everyone, exactly what China did to Taiwan. Except they bribe African countries with weapons and a the hopes daddy Russia will give them a gold star. A form of economic and social warfare basically, which will effectively turn (in my opinion) Kosovo slowly into America's S. Ossetia. A tiny military outpost that serves as the purpose of disorder. Note that originally Washington supported the integrity of the FR Yugoslavia. Then because of political machinations switched to supporting the KLA. Also looking in retrospect, Kosovo was able to become independent because Russia was still under the role of that drunk Yeltsin.

The problem runs deep, to the core of the entire political and social system that land has. The ONLY solution is a tyrant or dictator who has the rapport and capacity to snap the spine of the oligarchs and challenge the Americans.

Stop all efforts for diplomatic recognition, because never in a million would Russia change its veto in the security council. The reason why is simple, the Kosovo dilemma is a frozen conflict. It's in the interest of Russia (and imo Albania) to see it never resolved so that Serbia will not join NATO or the EU. Simple as that, same reason why they are doing their intrigues in Ukraine.

This hypothetical leader of Kosovo must instead instead borrow tactics N. Cyprus and Taiwan use and have unofficial methods to conduct deals with countries. Nationalize certain industries, promote free markets and local industry in others.

As for the Serbs, give the monasteries protection. The Serbs revere those sites not only for a nationalistic reason but for a deeper reason. They see Kosovo as the "Serbian Jerusalem." Essentially their spiritual homeland the home to their shrines. Grant the monasteries a form of autonomy similar to the monasteries in Mt. Athos.

The northern part should NOT return to Serbia and there should be no border changes. I'm sure that people would mobilize and start massacring each other again like in 1999 and 2004. It would just insight a conflict in the Balkans with more rape and bloodbaths. No greater Albania either, because Kosovar Albanians are mostly Muslim and will drown out the Christian minority in my country. The support for Kosovo unification I've noticed comes from several places, naive atheistic nationalists and Catholics. The Vatican, even though it doesn't recognize Kosovo, has deep ties to the government there too. Lol, its funny that they built that gigantic Catholic cathedral that serves the 2 Catholics that live in Prishtina. Anyways, everyone here knows in the century we have been isolated our culture has changed, even more the case with Macedonian Albanians.

In regards to Albania proper, Kosovo is a good thing. Obviously the Serbs are not angels. The one good thing at least is that Kosovo serves as a buffer zone between us and the Serbs.

Here is a non-bought off Albanian journalist explaining what happened in Albania/Kosovo after the war: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sr42KesiQ4

Glauk
03-13-2020, 01:28 AM
If you want my honest opinion I will say this:

I see the Kosovo situation as a national embarrassment. Early I have been supportive of Kosovo, but recently I have seen another aspect of it. I have to continue my research but I have begun to see things differently. I will not go into too much detail, because people may know me in real life but my family did things in the Kosovo war. I'm not a Kosovar Albanian.

Personally, since day one Kosovo and the naive Kosovar Albanians have been thralls of America. Whenever KLA war criminals are seen as guilty (perhaps they murdered Serbs or something) they go to the US so that they don't get in trouble. I know some even, its funny how the US doesn't bat an eye. The government there is corrupt, beyond corrupt even. We in Albania as well as Kosovo are a tiny pawn in the game that the western elite play. The Soros thing is exaggerated, Soros is a nice front piece because he's old and has nothing to lose. EVERY western corporation has an NGO and a mini-Soros foundation that poisons us. And they have their claws on the pocket of every Albanian politician. The rate of unemployment is shocking, especially among youth. If you see what is truly going on you realize that the economy is floating for now because of remittances from the diaspora as well as aid from the west.

Nationalism is permitted in Kosovo, America permits it because it means that the Kosovars will hate the Serbs always and they can use the conflict as leverage. Same thing I'm sure Russia likewise does with the Serbs. The Balkans is a land of misery, and especially in Kosovo the Faustian bargain they made with America will bite them in the ass. Look at how Albin Kurti and Ilir Meta are being massacred by this flock of western-educated fools for showing at least some backbone and free-thought. All these clowns are ivory tower Englishmen and Americans educated in Yale, the LSE (Fabian central!), it really shows how pathetic the state of affairs in that country is.

As for the Serbs, right now they are diplomatically cutting off Kosovo from everyone, exactly what China did to Taiwan. Except they bribe African countries with weapons and a the hopes daddy Russia will give them a gold star. A form of economic and social warfare basically, which will effectively turn (in my opinion) Kosovo slowly into America's S. Ossetia. A tiny military outpost that serves as the purpose of disorder. Note that originally Washington supported the integrity of the FR Yugoslavia. Then because of political machinations switched to supporting the KLA. Also looking in retrospect, Kosovo was able to become independent because Russia was still under the role of that drunk Yeltsin. In my opinion, the way to deal with this terrible situation is to impose some sort of dictatorship that can promote autonomy for the country. Stop all efforts for diplomatic recognition, because its never happening lol. Instead borrow tactics N. Cyprus and Taiwan use and have unofficial methods to conduct deals with countries.

The northern part should NOT return to Serbia and there should be no border changes. I'm sure that people would mobilize and start massacring each other again like in 1999 and 2004. It would just insight a conflict in the Balkans with more rape and bloodbaths. No greater Albania either, because Kosovar Albanians are mostly Muslim and will drown out the Christian minority in my country. The support for Kosovo unification I've noticed comes from several places, naive atheistic nationalists and Catholics. The Vatican, even though it doesn't recognize Kosovo, has deep ties to the government there too. Lol, its funny that they built that gigantic Catholic cathedral that serves the 2 Catholics that live in Prishtina. Anyways, everyone here knows in the century we have been isolated our culture has changed, even more the case with Macedonian Albanians.

In regards to Albania proper, Kosovo is a good thing. Obviously the Serbs are not angels. The one good thing at least is that Kosovo serves as a buffer zone between us and the Serbs.

Here is a non-bought off Albanian journalist explaining what happened in Albania/Kosovo after the war: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sr42KesiQ4

Prej cillit qytet je morr burr??se pom dukesh si naj profil shkau, qe fol pallavra
Ta dhifsha olsin o burr, qyky olsi bir kurve qe ka lind nana i folke shkive se jem popull fallc dhe se skenderbeja osht shka

Div
03-13-2020, 01:44 AM
Prej cillit qytet je morr burr??se pom dukesh si naj profil shkau, qe fol pallavra
Ta dhifsha olsin o burr, qyky olsi bir kurve qe ka lind nana i folke shkive se jem popull fallc dhe se skenderbeja osht shka

Why do you show such hatred? You call them a shka and yet you have a Slovenian tag you hypocrite. I don't agree with Olsi about Skenderbeg but at least he has the balls compared to every single other bought off journalist.

Glauk
03-13-2020, 01:48 AM
Why do you show such hatred? And yet you have a Slovenian tag you hypocrite, fuck off. I don't agree with Olsi about Skenderbeu but at least he has the balls compared to every single other bought off journalist. Say that shit about my mother to my face, you can kiss my ass.

Fol shqip shok
E du sllovenin
Jam rritur n slloveni jam gjenerata e tret qe jetoj atje...
Kam njerz pej familjes qe mka ndek n luft dhe ti me han mut se ne t kosoves kokum naiv, ka shum tradhtar shypnia dhe ti je nja prej tynve
Shko mbroja shkive bythen

Div
03-13-2020, 01:54 AM
s'jom shoku jote, do shikohesh qfare do te beje amerika kultura jone pas nji shekull. Qe po me shahesh kot..

Glauk
03-13-2020, 01:55 AM
Why do you show such hatred? You call them a shka and yet you have a Slovenian tag you hypocrite. I don't agree with Olsi about Skenderbeg but at least he has the balls compared to every single other bought off journalist.


Ka hala andej malev ka ju se per shkavin jeten e kishin jap e neve na kishit shit per ni kese mill

Glauk
03-13-2020, 01:56 AM
s'jom shoku jote, do shikohesh qfare do te beje amerika kultura jone pas nji shekull. Qe po me shahesh, o injorant.


Kqyri punt e tua dhe mos t ha kari per kosov se e mbrojm na vet, se sa per ju kuku

Div
03-13-2020, 02:08 AM
Kqyri punt e tua dhe mos t ha kari per kosov se e mbrojm na vet, se sa per ju kuku

Nga gjermania? Mos mu ca karin me kete fasade mashismo o "ballist". Populli shqiptare ka derdhur gjak per shekuj kunder serbet, qe nga sh. XIII e deri tani. Komentet tim jane fjeshte nje realitet. Bashkimi Kosova-Shqypni do beje KAOS ne Ballkanet! Mos fol nga zemera jote, por nga truri!

Div
03-13-2020, 02:14 AM
Kqyri punt e tua dhe mos t ha kari per kosov se e mbrojm na vet, se sa per ju kuku

Te rrime shtremet dhe te flasim drejt, shteti i kosoves DHE SHQIPERIA. Nga pjesa me e ulet eshte i korruptuar. A je kureshtar pse?? Sepse jemi ne vete si popull i korruptuar qe nuk e vendosim kemben poshte si e ka berre ne filipinat dhe hungaria p.sh.. E ke par ate propaganda pederast qe po na qin nena Hoxhat e Top channelit?? O zoteri, nga vin ajo?

Glauk
03-13-2020, 02:20 AM
Shyqyr qe na ndan malet me ju...

Glauk
03-13-2020, 02:24 AM
Te rrime shtremet dhe te flasim drejt, shteti i kosoves DHE SHQIPERIA. Nga pjesa me e ulet eshte i korruptuar. A je kureshtar pse?? Sepse jemi ne vete si popull i korruptuar qe nuk e vendosim kemben poshte si e ka berre ne filipinat dhe hungaria p.sh.. E ke par ate propaganda pederast qe po na qin nena Hoxhat e Top channelit?? O zoteri, nga vin ajo?

Veq kalo bukur shok dhe perpara vllezrit kinez rus dhe juguslovija

Dušan
03-13-2020, 04:43 PM
Dardania je albanija i uvjek ce biti, crknite srpski dusmani

You wish us dead? Thats not nice and polite.

I wish you all the best in Slovenia/Germany, and take your relatives and friends from Kosovo to be happy in Germany or Slovenia. :)

Glauk
03-13-2020, 11:19 PM
You wish us dead? Thats not nice and polite.

I wish you all the best in Slovenia/Germany, and take your relatives and friends from Kosovo to be happy in Germany or Slovenia. :)

I can take you if you want :)

Dušan
03-13-2020, 11:25 PM
I can take you if you want :)

No, I am very well in Serbia.
But your people need Germany. Help them, there are no future in Kosovo.

Glauk
03-13-2020, 11:28 PM
No, I am very well in Serbia.
But your people need Germany. Help them, there are no future in Kosovo.

There is more future for kosovo like this than under your regime

Duffmannn
03-14-2020, 02:27 AM
What have obtained kosovars with the independence?

Do the live better?

Historyinterest
03-14-2020, 02:45 AM
IMHO everyone who wishes to voice his opinion on this matter should have a proper understanding of the region's complex history

Blondie
03-14-2020, 02:48 AM
But your people need Germany. Help them, there are no future in Kosovo.

They should stay in Kosovo or Albania to build their real country.

Dušan
03-14-2020, 06:22 AM
They should stay in Kosovo or Albania to build their real country.

They dont want to live in Kosovo, but in Germany, Switzerland etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAa31zdhok&feature=emb_title

Div
03-17-2020, 06:58 PM
The state of things makes my blood boil.