White American MyHeritage result

[RyoHazuki]

Just got Myheritage saliva sample results, surprisingly similar to the uploaded results. Still too mutted.
https://i.imgur.com/6vXyTHP_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Adamm]

Just got Myheritage saliva sample results, surprisingly similar to the uploaded results. Still too mutted.
https://i.imgur.com/6vXyTHP_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

First time I see a white American with that amount of North African, do you know your paternal haplogroup? If not you can upload your raw DNA to the morley dna haplogroup predictor: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

[RyoHazuki]

First time I see a white American with that amount of North African, do you know your paternal haplogroup? If not you can upload your raw DNA to the morley dna haplogroup predictor: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

R1b

[TheMaestro]

Welcome to the hood.

[Adamm]

R1b

You can also upload your raw DNA to FTDNA.

[RyoHazuki]

You can also upload your raw DNA to FTDNA.

R1S691, Scottish subclade according to Yfull

[RyoHazuki]

New K15 PCA. At the crossroads of French average and Northern Europe.
https://i.imgur.com/yybDccd_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[RyoHazuki]

First time I see a white American with that amount of North African, do you know your paternal haplogroup? If not you can upload your raw DNA to the morley dna haplogroup predictor: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

Also, I have 2 Matches in United Arab Emirates, both of which are 0% European with completely typical Arab result. Both 3rd cousins (low confidence). Typical Arab names too.

[Adamm]

Also, I have 2 Matches in United Arab Emirates, both of which are 0% European with completely typical Arab result. Both 3rd cousins (low confidence). Typical Arab names too.

Can I see your K13 results? (eurogenes)

[gixajo]

Also, I have 2 Matches in United Arab Emirates, both of which are 0% European with completely typical Arab result. Both 3rd cousins (low confidence). Typical Arab names too.

Quite strange...

What dou you think about all this?

[gixajo]

Can I see your K13 results? (eurogenes)

In k36 you have directly North Africa.

[RyoHazuki]

Can I see your K13 results? (eurogenes)

Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.85
2 Baltic 21.09
3 West_Med 13.26
4 East_Med 6.21
5 West_Asian 4.88
6 Northeast_African 1.99
7 South_Asian 1.77
8 Siberian 0.63
9 Red_Sea 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 3.38
2 Southwest_English 4.61
3 Orcadian 5.17
4 West_Scottish 5.82
5 South_Dutch 5.88
6 Irish 6.01
7 Danish 6.27
8 North_Dutch 6.36
9 West_German 6.97
10 North_German 7.35
11 Norwegian 8.77
12 French 10.22
13 Swedish 10.8
14 Austrian 13.98
15 East_German 14.88
16 North_Swedish 16.27
17 Spanish_Cataluna 16.99
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.04
19 Hungarian 18.44
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97% Southeast_English + 3% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.26
2 96.9% Southeast_English + 3.1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.27
3 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 2.28
4 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 2.28
5 97% Southeast_English + 3% Somali @ 2.32
6 97.4% Southeast_English + 2.6% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.33
7 97.6% Southeast_English + 2.4% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2.49
8 97.5% Southeast_English + 2.5% Hadza @ 2.55
9 97.4% Southeast_English + 2.6% Maasai @ 2.58
10 97.7% Southeast_English + 2.3% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.64
11 97.5% Southeast_English + 2.5% Sandawe @ 2.64
12 96.5% Southeast_English + 3.5% Egyptian @ 2.67
13 97.8% Southeast_English + 2.2% Sudanese @ 2.7
14 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Jordanian @ 2.75
15 96.2% Southeast_English + 3.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.77
16 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Palestinian @ 2.78
17 96.2% Southeast_English + 3.8% Algerian @ 2.79
18 96.8% Southeast_English + 3.2% Bedouin @ 2.79
19 96.3% Southeast_English + 3.7% Moroccan @ 2.8
20 96.3% Southeast_English + 3.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.8


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.492414
2 Southwest_English @ 5.100086
3 Orcadian @ 5.717894
4 West_Scottish @ 6.538716
5 South_Dutch @ 6.568590
6 Irish @ 6.746461
7 Danish @ 6.984664
8 North_Dutch @ 7.067070
9 West_German @ 7.902857
10 North_German @ 8.232485
11 Norwegian @ 9.834287
12 French @ 11.495771
13 Swedish @ 12.133480
14 Austrian @ 15.956180
15 East_German @ 16.947163
16 North_Swedish @ 18.285410
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.136753
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 20.333302
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.918018
20 Southwest_French @ 20.952015

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 3.492414


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% West_Scottish @ 2.876924


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 2.876924
2 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 2.944934
3 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 2.984940
4 Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.050939
5 Danish + Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.065875
6 French + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.072537
7 Danish + French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.076618
8 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.080696
9 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.098709
10 Danish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.103265
11 Danish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.141765
12 Danish + Danish + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.150543
13 French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.150722
14 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.154216
15 Danish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.159894
16 French + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.160946
17 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish @ 3.163212
18 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 3.173537
19 Danish + Danish + Portuguese + West_Scottish @ 3.174196
20 Danish + French + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.174926

[RyoHazuki]

Quite strange...

What dou you think about all this?

I am American and mutt lol

[Adamm]

Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.85
2 Baltic 21.09
3 West_Med 13.26
4 East_Med 6.21
5 West_Asian 4.88
6 Northeast_African 1.99
7 South_Asian 1.77
8 Siberian 0.63
9 Red_Sea 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 3.38
2 Southwest_English 4.61
3 Orcadian 5.17
4 West_Scottish 5.82
5 South_Dutch 5.88
6 Irish 6.01
7 Danish 6.27
8 North_Dutch 6.36
9 West_German 6.97
10 North_German 7.35
11 Norwegian 8.77
12 French 10.22
13 Swedish 10.8
14 Austrian 13.98
15 East_German 14.88
16 North_Swedish 16.27
17 Spanish_Cataluna 16.99
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.04
19 Hungarian 18.44
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97% Southeast_English + 3% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.26
2 96.9% Southeast_English + 3.1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.27
3 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 2.28
4 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 2.28
5 97% Southeast_English + 3% Somali @ 2.32
6 97.4% Southeast_English + 2.6% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.33
7 97.6% Southeast_English + 2.4% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2.49
8 97.5% Southeast_English + 2.5% Hadza @ 2.55
9 97.4% Southeast_English + 2.6% Maasai @ 2.58
10 97.7% Southeast_English + 2.3% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.64
11 97.5% Southeast_English + 2.5% Sandawe @ 2.64
12 96.5% Southeast_English + 3.5% Egyptian @ 2.67
13 97.8% Southeast_English + 2.2% Sudanese @ 2.7
14 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Jordanian @ 2.75
15 96.2% Southeast_English + 3.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.77
16 96.7% Southeast_English + 3.3% Palestinian @ 2.78
17 96.2% Southeast_English + 3.8% Algerian @ 2.79
18 96.8% Southeast_English + 3.2% Bedouin @ 2.79
19 96.3% Southeast_English + 3.7% Moroccan @ 2.8
20 96.3% Southeast_English + 3.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.8


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.492414
2 Southwest_English @ 5.100086
3 Orcadian @ 5.717894
4 West_Scottish @ 6.538716
5 South_Dutch @ 6.568590
6 Irish @ 6.746461
7 Danish @ 6.984664
8 North_Dutch @ 7.067070
9 West_German @ 7.902857
10 North_German @ 8.232485
11 Norwegian @ 9.834287
12 French @ 11.495771
13 Swedish @ 12.133480
14 Austrian @ 15.956180
15 East_German @ 16.947163
16 North_Swedish @ 18.285410
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.136753
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 20.333302
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.918018
20 Southwest_French @ 20.952015

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 3.492414


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% West_Scottish @ 2.876924


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 2.876924
2 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 2.944934
3 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 2.984940
4 Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.050939
5 Danish + Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.065875
6 French + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.072537
7 Danish + French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.076618
8 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.080696
9 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.098709
10 Danish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.103265
11 Danish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.141765
12 Danish + Danish + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.150543
13 French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.150722
14 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.154216
15 Danish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.159894
16 French + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.160946
17 Danish + Danish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish @ 3.163212
18 Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 3.173537
19 Danish + Danish + Portuguese + West_Scottish @ 3.174196
20 Danish + French + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.174926


And K36 also pls, thanks.

[RyoHazuki]

In k36 you have directly North Africa.

0% Nafri in K36

Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.61 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.40 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.27 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.27 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.91 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.79 Pct
French 8.68 Pct
Iberian 10.13 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 3.99 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 23.95 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.62 Pct
North_Sea 20.45 Pct
Northeast_African 0.34 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.70 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.95 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.93 Pct

[Adamm]

0% Nafri in K36

Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.61 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.40 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.27 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.27 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.91 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.79 Pct
French 8.68 Pct
Iberian 10.13 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 3.99 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 23.95 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.62 Pct
North_Sea 20.45 Pct
Northeast_African 0.34 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.70 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.95 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.93 Pct

Have you also got G25 coordinates? Hard to make where that non-European comes from.

[RyoHazuki]

And K36 also pls, thanks.

Just posted it, next post

[RyoHazuki]

Have you also got G25 coordinates? Hard to make where that non-European comes from.

Yes I have, I'll DM to you

[gixajo]

repeated.

[gixajo]

I don´t understand, too many inconsistencies between k36 and k13. And MH estimation also...

Maybe Adamm can see something in your g25.

[RyoHazuki]

I don´t understand, too many inconsistencies between k36 and k13. And MH estimation also...

Maybe Adamm can see something in your g25.

I'm English and French but I tend to be modeled as English and trace MENA

[waam]

MyHeritage is shit when it comes to matches, too. I have some weird low confidence matches from Northwestern Europ which definitely don't actually match with me lol.

[RyoHazuki]

MyHeritage is shit when it comes to matches, too. I have some weird low confidence matches from Northwestern Europ which definitely don't actually match with me lol.

Really? Are matches really that finicky? I knew admixture calculation was but i never guessed the same for matches

[RyoHazuki]

MyHeritage is shit when it comes to matches, too. I have some weird low confidence matches from Northwestern Europ which definitely don't actually match with me lol.

One thing that bothers me is the low percentages spread across huge number of ethnicities. It makes figuring out non anglo ancestry a pain. What ethnic group can even be modeled as Spanish, Italian, Nafri, and Balkan?

[waam]

Really? Are matches really that finicky? I knew admixture calculation was but i never guessed the same for matches
MyHeritage is a mess in general. I hope they clean it up a bit with the upcoming update.


One thing that bothers me is the low percentages spread across huge number of ethnicities. It makes figuring out non anglo ancestry a pain. What ethnic group can even be modeled as Spanish, Italian, Nafri, and Balkan?
I personally don't have too many small percentages spread all across the board (they have dedicated population for my ancestry) but yeah they clearly have a problem separating their reference populations and there seems to be a lot of overlap with some of them making it skew the ethnicity estimate.