Classify Roman Emperor Trajan (one of Romanians' founding fathers)

[Ion Basescul]

http://www.deomercurio.be/06a_Traianus_Glyptothek.jpg

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[Voskos]

Romania-Hungary.

[Bosniensis]

He was a Balkan guy that is obvious.

Cassius Dio: "Wars beteen Trajan and Decebal are Fratricidal wars"

[anaise]

Carpathid.

[MinervaItalica]

He was a Balkan guy that is obvious.

Italic origins. From Umbria to be precise.

[Bosniensis]

Italic origins. From Umbria to be precise.

He doesn't look Italian, look Romanian, Hungarian and Balkan.

He may have been born in Umbria but just like Emperor Maxentius who was born in Rome has a father from Balkans, Maximian (father of Maxentius) is Thracian from Sirmium Serbia.

It is known fact that Balkans ruled Italy from 2nd century onwards.

[MinervaItalica]

He doesn't look Italian, look Romanian, Hungarian and Balkan.

It is known fact that Balkans ruled Italy from 2nd century onwards.

Look doesn't matter. His family have Italic origins. Period.

It is a known fact that you know 0 about Italian history (but also in general tbh). :thumb001:

[Smeagol]

He was a Balkan guy that is obvious.

Cassius Dio: "Wars beteen Trajan and Decebal are Fratricidal wars"

Cassius Dio didn't say that.

[Bosniensis]

Look doesn't matter. His family have Italic origins. Period.

It is a known fact that you know 0 about Italian history (but also in general tbh). :thumb001:

As you wish, keep coping.

[Bosniensis]

Cassius Dio didn't say that.

Dio Cassius would say, "let us not forget that Trajan was a true-born Thracian."

The fights between Trajan and Decebalus were fratricidal wars, and the Thracians were Dacians.


https://www.romanianhistoryandculture.com/decebaluandtrajan.htm

[Hajimurad]

He may have been born in Umbria but just like Emperor Maxentius who was born in Rome has a father from Balkans, Maximian (father of Maxentius) is Thracian from Sirmium Serbia.

It is known fact that Balkans ruled Italy from 2nd century onwards.
Illyrians and Thracians (and other provincials) started to rule empire only during III century crisis. Before that emperors were generally either Italics or provincials of Italian origin. Don't forget about Septimius Severus (a Phoenician from Lybia) who made Balkan legions the main pillar of the regime.

[Bosniensis]

Illyrians and Thracians (and other provincials) started to rule empire only during III century crisis. Before that emperors were generally either Italics or provincials of Italian origin. Don't forget about Septimius Severus (a Phoenician from Lybia) who made Balkan legions the main pillar of the regime.

Romans are Trojan Armies from Mysia, Bythinia, and Lydia.

Troy is a Thracian colony from Dardania and Strymon.

Troy was build by Gold delivered from Apuseni Mountains.

Italy has been conquered, it is ruled by 50% Germanics 50%Hellenics in the south, those northern ones are complete foreigners.

However North used to be Romanian and Balkan like.

But there is no point discussing this with Italians, they believe in self invented Fantasy about Rome derived from Cartoons and Movies.

[Smeagol]

Dio Cassius would say, "let us not forget that Trajan was a true-born Thracian."

The fights between Trajan and Decebalus were fratricidal wars, and the Thracians were Dacians.


https://www.romanianhistoryandculture.com/decebaluandtrajan.htm

No, Cassius Dio never said that either. It's a made up quote from a Romanian documentary about the Dacians.

[Bosniensis]

No, Cassius Dio never said that either. It's a made up quote from a Romanian documentary about the Dacians.

Then why was Justinian liberating his homeland "Italy" in 6th century from modern Italians?

He won, then he lost... then those who defeated him started calling themselves Romans.

When King Otto of Italy sent Liutprand of Cremona to Caesar Nicephorus II Phocas, Emperor called him Cremonese delegation and Otto "German" and Barbarian and asked him to leave the court.

60% Italians are descendants of Ricimer, Gundobad, Odoacer and others who don't belong to Hellenic Roman Civilization.

The simple fact that Italians in the North know nothing about Balkans tells you enough how foreign they are.

[MinervaItalica]

Romans are Trojan Armies from Mysia, Bythinia, and Lydia.

Troy is a Thracian colony from Dardania and Strymon.

Troy was build by Gold delivered from Apuseni Mountains.

Italy has been conquered, it is ruled by 50% Germanics 50%Hellenics in the south, those northern ones are complete foreigners.

However North used to be Romanian and Balkan like.

But there is no point discussing this with Italians, they believe in self invented Fantasy about Rome derived from Cartoons and Movies.


Then why was Justinian liberating his homeland "Italy" in 6th century from modern Italians?

He won, then he lost... then those who defeated him started calling themselves Romans.

When King Otto of Italy sent Liutprand of Cremona to Caesar Nicephorus II Phocas, Emperor called him Cremonese delegation and Otto "German" and Barbarian and asked him to leave the court.

60% Italians are descendants of Ricimer, Gundobad, Odoacer and others who don't belong to Hellenic Roman Civilization.

What kind of drug do you assume? You seem on high.

Why don't you just focus on classify op without posting your own fantasy, twisted vision of history?

[Smeagol]

Then why was Justinian liberating his homeland "Italy" in 6th century from modern Italians?

He won, then he lost... then those who defeated him started calling themselves Romans.

When King Otto of Italy sent Liutprand of Cremona to Caesar Nicephorus II Phocas, Emperor called him Cremonese delegation and Otto "German" and Barbarian and asked him to leave the court.

60% Italians are descendants of Ricimer, Gundobad, Odoacer and others who don't belong to Hellenic Roman Civilization.

The simple fact that Italians in the North know nothing about Balkans tells you enough how foreign they are.

I'm not interested in your fantasy interpretation of history. Just the fact that you're using demonstrably made up quotes to come to it.

[Hajimurad]

Romans are Trojan Armies from Mysia, Bythinia, and Lydia.

Troy is a Thracian colony from Dardania and Strymon.

Troy was build by Gold delivered from Apuseni Mountains.

Italy has been conquered, it is ruled by 50% Germanics 50%Hellenics in the south, those northern ones are complete foreigners.

However North used to be Romanian and Balkan like.

But there is no point discussing this with Italians, they believe in self invented Fantasy about Rome derived from Cartoons and Movies.

Inscriptions from Ancient Asia Minor, Greece and Italy suggests otherwise. In fact there are were two Hittite cities - Truisa and Wilusa, which were rendered by Homer as Troy and Ilion. They were besieged by Ahhiyawa state (Achaeans). Tribes, related to Thracians (Phrygians) started to invade Asia Minor only after so-called "Trojan war".
Romans never came from Troy. These legends are reminiscent of Sea people invasions, among whom were Tursha (Tyrrhenians/ Etruscans) and Peleset (Pelasgians/Philistines), whose languages were related. Etruscans who conquered Tuscany, Campania and Po valley greatly influenced Roman civilization (name Rome is of Etruscan origin and city was ruled by Etruscan royal dynasty from Tarquinia town).

[MinervaItalica]

Romans never came from Troy. These legends are reminiscent of Sea people invasions, among whom were Tursha (Tyrrhenians/ Etruscans) and Peleset (Pelasgians/Philistines), whose languages were related. Etruscans who conquered Tuscany, Campania and Po valley greatly influenced Roman civilization (name Rome is of Etruscan origin and city was ruled by Etruscan royal dynasty from Tarquinia town).

^This

Romans just loved to be compared to Greek and Troyan mythical heroes. They also loved to link Rome origin to these legends.

[Hajimurad]

Then why was Justinian liberating his homeland "Italy" in 6th century from modern Italians?

He won, then he lost... then those who defeated him started calling themselves Romans.

When King Otto of Italy sent Liutprand of Cremona to Caesar Nicephorus II Phocas, Emperor called him Cremonese delegation and Otto "German" and Barbarian and asked him to leave the court.

60% Italians are descendants of Ricimer, Gundobad, Odoacer and others who don't belong to Hellenic Roman Civilization.

The simple fact that Italians in the North know nothing about Balkans tells you enough how foreign they are.

Justinian "liberated" Italy not from Italians but from Ostrogoths.
Majority of Italians speak Latin-derived languages, belonged to Mediterranean, Alpine and Dinaric types and bear names of Greek, Roman or Jewish-Christian origin. Indeed many Italians definitely has Germanic origin but their ethnicity isn't Germanic.

[Nurzat]

Baskid. anyway looks Western Euro / Atlantic facade, even British (a bit similar to the actor who plays Caesar in Rome series)

[Historyinterest]

He doesn't look Italian, look Romanian, Hungarian and Balkan.

He may have been born in Umbria but just like Emperor Maxentius who was born in Rome has a father from Balkans, Maximian (father of Maxentius) is Thracian from Sirmium Serbia.

It is known fact that Balkans ruled Italy from 2nd century onwards.


Are you sure you're only prepping the basic necessities and not weed as well?

[Zmey Gorynych]

Dinarid with Alpine and Med. If we're to consider Trajan one of the fathers you'd think that the romanian people are the child of the first gay couple - father Trajan and father Decebal.

[Joso]

Baskid. anyway looks Western Euro / Atlantic facade, even British (a bit similar to the actor who plays Caesar in Rome series)

Either this or some sort of med+CM

[aherne]

I'm surprised they didn't make him look like a black (i'm talking about 1st picture). He was Alpine-CM mix and probably light skinned: central European look brought by Italics