Samnium
03-15-2020, 12:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1JZ_yb4RVE
Eurogenes K13
North Atlantic: 30.53%
West Mediterranean: 26.29%
South Asian: 15.16%
West Asian: 9.52%
East Mediterranean: 7.42%
Baltic: 4.32%
Red Sea: 2.47%
Northeast African: 1.33%
Oceanian: 1.32%
Siberian: 0.93%
Sub-Saharan: 0.61%
Amerindian: 0.10%.
1 Spanish Andalucia / Kurumba (distance 5.37)
2 Spanish Andalucia / Velamas (distance 5.57)
3 Spanish Andalucia / Dharkar (distance 5.58)
4 Spanish Andalucia / Dusadh (distance 5.61)
5 Spanish Andalucia / Piramalai (distance 5.7)
6 Spanish Andalucia / Kanjar (distance 5.84)
7 Spanish Andalucia / Kol (distance 5.85)
8 Spanish Andalucia / Uttar Pradesh (distance 5.89)
9 Spanish Andalucia / Gujarati (distance 5.91)
10 Spanish Castilla-la-Mancha / Kurumba (distance 5.93)
11 Spanish Andalucia / Kshatriya (distance 5.94)
12 Spanish Castilla-la-Mancha / Velamas (distance 5.98)
13 Spanish Andalucia / Sakilli (distance 5.99)
14 Spanish Andalucia / North Kannadi (distance 6.11)
15 Spanish Aragon / Gujarati (distance 6.12)
16 Spanish Aragon / Velamas (distance 6.14)
17 Spanish Andalucia / Chenchu (distance 6.16)
18 Spanish Castilla-la-Mancha / Dharkar (distance 6.18)
19 Spanish Andalucia / Brahmin Uttar Pradesh (distance 6.2)
20 Spanish Aragon / Kurumba (distance 6.2).
Never seen this mix before, it's very interesting. I don't have the percentages for the oracles however.
Here the papertrail :
"Father's Parents: Andalusian Gypsies.
Mother's Parents: Andalusians"
tipirneni
03-15-2020, 12:33 AM
Interesting he is getting Kurumba which is H1 tribe at the top. Possible for the Gypsy to get but never seen so close. I suspect he might be matching some very old chalcolithic Iberian component found in these tribes rather than from his gypsy Indian component.
Interesting. Here is the guy
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJyrG1x6QL2JXxTt1n6rEvEHeUN4DrOmN0Iz=s288-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo
I was told there were almost entirely European Gypsies in Andalusia, people who simply adopted that culture.
Nomansman
03-15-2020, 02:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1JZ_yb4RVE
Eurogenes K13
North Atlantic: 30.53%
West Mediterranean: 26.29%
South Asian: 15.16%
West Asian: 9.52%
East Mediterranean: 7.42%
Baltic: 4.32%
Red Sea: 2.47%
Northeast African: 1.33%
Oceanian: 1.32%
Siberian: 0.93%
Sub-Saharan: 0.61%
Amerindian: 0.10%.
1 Spanish Andalucia / Kurumba (distance 5.37)
2 Spanish Andalucia / Velamas (distance 5.57)
3 Spanish Andalucia / Dharkar (distance 5.58)
4 Spanish Andalucia / Dusadh (distance 5.61)
5 Spanish Andalucia / Piramalai (distance 5.7)
6 Spanish Andalucia / Kanjar (distance 5.84)
7 Spanish Andalucia / Kol (distance 5.85)
8 Spanish Andalucia / Uttar Pradesh (distance 5.89)
9 Spanish Andalucia / Gujarati (distance 5.91)
10 Spanish Castilla-la-Mancha / Kurumba (distance 5.93)
11 Spanish Andalucia / Kshatriya (distance 5.94)
12 Spanish Castilla-la-Mancha / Velamas (distance 5.98)
13 Spanish Andalucia / Sakilli (distance 5.99)
14 Spanish Andalucia / North Kannadi (distance 6.11)
15 Spanish Aragon / Gujarati (distance 6.12)
16 Spanish Aragon / Velamas (distance 6.14)
17 Spanish Andalucia / Chenchu (distance 6.16)
18 Spanish Castilla-la-Mancha / Dharkar (distance 6.18)
19 Spanish Andalucia / Brahmin Uttar Pradesh (distance 6.2)
20 Spanish Aragon / Kurumba (distance 6.2).
Never seen this mix before, it's very interesting. I don't have the percentages for the oracles however.
Here the papertrail :
"Father's Parents: Andalusian Gypsies.
Mother's Parents: Andalusians"
Can you also post his harappaworld results? Would like to see those
Samnium
03-15-2020, 02:16 PM
Can you also post his harappaworld results? Would like to see those
I can add that, but I don't have his kit neither harappaworld results :
* MyHeritageDNA Results:
45.6% Iberian
21.7% Italian
18.8% South Asian
7.3% Northwestern European
4.3% North African
1.2% Ashkenazi Jewish
1.1% Nigerian.
***
* My 23andMe Results (50% Speculative Confidence Level) [V5.2]:
EUROPEAN:
36.1% Spanish & Portuguese (Spain: Andalusia, Castile-la-Mancha, Galicia, Valencian Community, Catalonia, Aragon, Castile and León, Basque Country, Extremadura) [Likely match]
12.1% Broadly Southern European
4.0% Greek & Balkan (Greece: Peloponnese, Northern Aegean, Southern Aegean, Central Macedonia) [Likely match]
3.1% Italian (Sicily, Campania, Abruzzo, Lazio) [Likely match]
2.9% Broadly European
2.8% British & Irish
2.4% Broadly Western European
1.3% French & German (France: Nouvelle-Aquitaine, Occitanie) [Likely match]
0.1% Ashkenazi Jewish
WESTERN ASIAN & NORTH AFRICAN:
5.9% Broadly Northern West Asian (from Anatolia to Iran)
4.0% Iranian, Caucasian & Mesopotamian: Turkey (Eastern Provinces) [Possible match]
2.9% Anatolian (Turkey: Istanbul, Çanakkale) [Possible match]
2.3% Broadly Western Asian & North African
0.5% North African
0.2% Broadly Arab, Egyptian & Levantine
CENTRAL & SOUTH ASIAN:
4.8% Central Asian (from the Caspian Sea to China’s Taklamakan desert)
2.5% Broadly Central & South Asian
1.5% Broadly Central Asian, Northern Indian & Pakistani
0.8% Northern Indian & Pakistani
0.8% Bengali & Northeast Indian
ANCESTRY TRACE:
0.1% Broadly East Asian & Native American
0.1% West African: Nigeria
0.1% Broadly Chinese & Southeast Asian
+ 8.4% Unassigned.
Paternal Haplogroup: I-M26 (I2a1a according to MorleyDNA)
Maternal Haplogroup: HV0.
250 Neanderthal Variants (less than 4%).
***
* My DNA.Land Results:
West Eurasian (86%):
Northwest European (45%)
South/Central European (19%)
South Asian (14%):
Gujarati (7.2%)
Dravidian (6.3%).
Southwestern European (8.4%):
Southwestern European (4.2%)
Sardinian (4.2%).
North African (13%).
Ambiguous (1%).
Nomansman
03-15-2020, 02:20 PM
Well, he seems like to get 12% SI on HW, since i got two other gypsies with 13,7% SI and 11% SI both getting 14,31% south asian and 16,7% south asian on eurogenes k13. He still doesnt seem south asian at all
Samnium
03-15-2020, 02:23 PM
Well, he seems like to get 12% SI on HW, since i got two other gypsies with 13,7% SI and 11% SI both getting 14,31% south asian and 16,7% south asian on eurogenes k13. He still doesnt seem south asian at all
He's half "White" that's why
CommonSense
03-15-2020, 02:25 PM
This means his dad would get ~30% South Asian on K13, which is common for Balkan Gypsies.
Impaler
03-15-2020, 02:39 PM
Target: Andalusian_Gypsy
Distance: 3.7849% / 3.78486403 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Spanish_Andalucia
21.8 French_Basque
11.8 Kurumba
9.6 Sindhi
7.2 Sardinian
6.0 Romani
Distance to: Andalusian_Gypsy
19.58582906 Spanish_Extremadura
19.64851394 Spanish_Andalucia
19.91699274 Spanish_Galicia
20.71294040 Portuguese
20.77142749 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
21.17862366 Spanish_Murcia
21.42340309 Piedmont
21.50882377 Spanish_Valencia
21.56777225 Spanish_Cataluna
21.71214407 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
21.72860787 Liguria
21.75748837 Spanish_Cantabria
21.81045162 AostaValley
21.82927850 Lombardy
21.83382239 Veneto
21.97716997 Emilia
22.41388855 Swiss-Italian
22.46675989 Tuscany
22.66118929 Spanish_Aragon
23.16816134 Southwest_French
23.32896912 Trentino
23.40123501 Friuli-VG
23.49242431 FrenchCorsica
23.74490682 Swiss_Italian
23.95329831 Tuscan
He is about 75% European.
Samnium
03-15-2020, 02:43 PM
Very interesting.
I know very little about South Asian genetics but I found this mix quite interesting, uncommon I have to say !
I know very little about South Asian genetics but I found this mix quite interesting, uncommon I have to say !
This quarter Vietnamese Gypsy from France is even more exotic! Her Swiss ancestor who was a Resistance fighter is said to have been absorbed by her Romani ancestors
https://i.redd.it/rbkqugf43vv31.jpg
Impaler
03-15-2020, 02:53 PM
[1,] "21.3 % Kurumba + 78.7 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.0793"
[2,] "22.5 % Dharkar + 77.5 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.2841"
[3,] "78.8 % Spanish_Andalucia + 21.2 % Velamas" "6.2851"
[4,] "21.1 % Dusadh + 78.9 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.3583"
[5,] "20.3 % Piramalai + 79.7 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.4854"
[6,] "22 % Kanjar + 78 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.5748"
[7,] "23.7 % Gujarati + 76.3 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.5973"
[8,] "21.5 % Kol + 78.5 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.6049"
[9,] "22.2 % Kurumba + 77.8 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "6.641"
[10,] "78.1 % Spanish_Andalucia + 21.9 % Uttar_Pradesh" "6.6527"
[11,] "23.8 % Kshatriya + 76.2 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.6534"
[12,] "77.9 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 22.1 % Velamas" "6.6874"
[13,] "26.6 % Gujarati + 73.4 % Spanish_Aragon" "6.7813"
[14,] "20 % Sakilli + 80 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.828"
[15,] "23.5 % Dharkar + 76.5 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "6.8881"
[16,] "76.2 % Spanish_Aragon + 23.8 % Velamas" "6.9093"
[17,] "47.3 % French_Basque + 52.7 % Romani" "6.9219"
[18,] "25 % Brahmin_UP + 75 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.9222"
[19,] "20.8 % North_Kannadi + 79.2 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.9342"
[20,] "23.8 % Bangladeshi + 76.2 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.9534"
[21,] "21.1 % Chenchu + 78.9 % Spanish_Andalucia" "6.9647"
[22,] "22 % Dusadh + 78 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "6.9739"
[23,] "26.7 % Kshatriya + 73.3 % Spanish_Aragon" "6.997"
[24,] "23.8 % Kurumba + 76.2 % Spanish_Aragon" "6.9971"
[25,] "25.2 % Dharkar + 74.8 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.0278"
[26,] "20 % Chamar + 80 % Spanish_Andalucia" "7.0882"
[27,] "24.7 % Gujarati + 75.3 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.1124"
[28,] "21.2 % Piramalai + 78.8 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.1561"
[29,] "77.1 % Spanish_Cantabria + 22.9 % Velamas" "7.2257"
[30,] "24.8 % Kshatriya + 75.2 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.2306"
[31,] "22.9 % Kanjar + 77.1 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.2896"
[32,] "27.5 % Sindhi + 72.5 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.3164"
[33,] "22.9 % Kurumba + 77.1 % Spanish_Cantabria" "7.321"
[34,] "22.3 % Kol + 77.7 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.3561"
[35,] "23.6 % Dusadh + 76.4 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.3947"
[36,] "26.7 % Bangladeshi + 73.3 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.4315"
[37,] "77.2 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 22.8 % Uttar_Pradesh" "7.4332"
[38,] "24.6 % Kanjar + 75.4 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.4649"
[39,] "24.8 % Bangladeshi + 75.2 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.4675"
[40,] "27.9 % Brahmin_UP + 72.1 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.4819"
[41,] "22 % Chenchu + 78 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.6031"
[42,] "20.8 % Sakilli + 79.2 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.6057"
[43,] "20.7 % Kurumba + 79.3 % Spanish_Extremadura" "7.6491"
[44,] "25.9 % Brahmin_UP + 74.1 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.6578"
[45,] "21.6 % North_Kannadi + 78.4 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.676"
[46,] "22.7 % Piramalai + 77.3 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.6954"
[47,] "24.2 % Dharkar + 75.8 % Spanish_Cantabria" "7.7188"
[48,] "22.7 % Dusadh + 77.3 % Spanish_Cantabria" "7.7304"
[49,] "79.3 % Spanish_Extremadura + 20.7 % Velamas" "7.8045"
[50,] "25.4 % Gujarati + 74.6 % Spanish_Cantabria" "7.8111"
[51,] "23.9 % Kol + 76.1 % Spanish_Aragon" "7.8417"
[52,] "75.6 % Spanish_Aragon + 24.4 % Uttar_Pradesh" "7.876"
[53,] "21.9 % Dharkar + 78.1 % Spanish_Extremadura" "7.8952"
[54,] "21.8 % Piramalai + 78.2 % Spanish_Cantabria" "7.9034"
[55,] "20.8 % Chamar + 79.2 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "7.9122"
[56,] "20.5 % Dusadh + 79.5 % Spanish_Extremadura" "7.9236"
[57,] "25.5 % Kshatriya + 74.5 % Spanish_Cantabria" "7.9799"
[58,] "19.8 % Piramalai + 80.2 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.0113"
[59,] "61.9 % French_Basque + 38.1 % Parsi_India" "8.0326"
[60,] "23.3 % North_Kannadi + 76.7 % Spanish_Aragon" "8.1007"
[61,] "20.9 % Kol + 79.1 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.1235"
[62,] "25.6 % Bangladeshi + 74.4 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.1764"
[63,] "25.3 % Sindhi + 74.7 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha" "8.1775"
[64,] "26.3 % Sindhi + 73.7 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.1803"
[65,] "23.5 % Kanjar + 76.5 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.1821"
[66,] "23.6 % Chenchu + 76.4 % Spanish_Aragon" "8.1933"
[67,] "76.1 % Southwest_French + 23.9 % Velamas" "8.2143"
[68,] "78.7 % Spanish_Extremadura + 21.3 % Uttar_Pradesh" "8.2215"
[69,] "21.4 % Kanjar + 78.6 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.2239"
[70,] "29 % Punjabi_Jat + 71 % Spanish_Aragon" "8.2405"
[71,] "23 % Kol + 77 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.2408"
[72,] "23 % Gujarati + 77 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.2557"
[73,] "24 % Sindhi + 76 % Spanish_Andalucia" "8.2707"
[74,] "19.5 % Sakilli + 80.5 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.2977"
[75,] "76.6 % Spanish_Cantabria + 23.4 % Uttar_Pradesh" "8.3067"
[76,] "22.3 % Sakilli + 77.7 % Spanish_Aragon" "8.3155"
[77,] "23.1 % Kshatriya + 76.9 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.3395"
[78,] "22.7 % Chenchu + 77.3 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.3527"
[79,] "20.6 % Chenchu + 79.4 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.361"
[80,] "23.9 % Kurumba + 76.1 % Southwest_French" "8.3695"
[81,] "21.4 % Sakilli + 78.6 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.4491"
[82,] "26.7 % Brahmin_UP + 73.3 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.4844"
[83,] "20.2 % North_Kannadi + 79.8 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.4847"
[84,] "23.1 % Bangladeshi + 76.9 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.5036"
[85,] "19.4 % Chamar + 80.6 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.5274"
[86,] "25.5 % Punjabi_Jat + 74.5 % Spanish_Andalucia" "8.5565"
[87,] "22.3 % North_Kannadi + 77.7 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.5989"
[88,] "21.9 % Kurumba + 78.1 % Spanish_Murcia" "8.6088"
[89,] "24.2 % Brahmin_UP + 75.8 % Spanish_Extremadura" "8.6115"
[90,] "22.2 % Kurumba + 77.8 % Spanish_Valencia" "8.6297"
[91,] "22.3 % Chamar + 77.7 % Spanish_Aragon" "8.643"
[92,] "28.6 % Pathan + 71.4 % Spanish_Aragon" "8.6625"
[93,] "28.5 % Burusho + 71.5 % Spanish_Aragon" "8.7272"
[94,] "78.1 % Spanish_Murcia + 21.9 % Velamas" "8.7307"
[95,] "77.8 % Spanish_Valencia + 22.2 % Velamas" "8.7586"
[96,] "23.2 % Dharkar + 76.8 % Spanish_Murcia" "8.76"
[97,] "23.6 % Dusadh + 76.4 % Southwest_French" "8.7961"
[98,] "66.1 % French_Basque + 33.9 % Sindhi" "8.8154"
[99,] "22.4 % Kurumba + 77.6 % Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon" "8.8299"
[100,] "21.4 % Chamar + 78.6 % Spanish_Cantabria" "8.8304"
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