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FilhoV
03-15-2020, 03:36 PM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.8
2 West_Med 21.89
3 North_Atlantic 15.3
4 Sub-Saharan 13.35
5 Red_Sea 13.12
6 Northeast_African 8.68
7 Amerindian 0.75
8 Oceanian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 5.95
2 Algerian 6.11
3 Tunisian 7.07
4 Moroccan 9.8
5 Algerian_Jewish 20.48
6 Libyan_Jewish 21.05
7 Egyptian 21.68
8 Tunisian_Jewish 21.89
9 West_Sicilian 22.12
10 Sephardic_Jewish 22.39
11 Italian_Jewish 22.66
12 East_Sicilian 23.08
13 Ashkenazi 23.3
14 South_Italian 23.77
15 Tuscan 25.15
16 Italian_Abruzzo 25.31
17 Central_Greek 25.39
18 Bedouin 26.59
19 Greek_Thessaly 26.85
20 Jordanian 28.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.3% Mozabite_Berber + 7.7% Southeast_English @ 4.48
2 92.7% Mozabite_Berber + 7.3% West_Scottish @ 4.49
3 92.5% Mozabite_Berber + 7.5% Southwest_English @ 4.53
4 92.7% Mozabite_Berber + 7.3% Orcadian @ 4.53
5 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Irish @ 4.54
6 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Danish @ 4.57
7 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% North_Dutch @ 4.58
8 89.3% Mozabite_Berber + 10.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.6
9 90.1% Mozabite_Berber + 9.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.6
10 93.2% Mozabite_Berber + 6.8% Norwegian @ 4.61
11 90.9% Mozabite_Berber + 9.1% French @ 4.61
12 89.8% Mozabite_Berber + 10.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.62
13 91.7% Mozabite_Berber + 8.3% West_German @ 4.62
14 91.9% Mozabite_Berber + 8.1% South_Dutch @ 4.64
15 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% North_German @ 4.66
16 89.4% Mozabite_Berber + 10.6% Portuguese @ 4.68
17 89.9% Mozabite_Berber + 10.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.69
18 89.4% Mozabite_Berber + 10.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.71
19 90.8% Mozabite_Berber + 9.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.71
20 93.4% Mozabite_Berber + 6.6% Swedish @ 4.73

Leto
03-15-2020, 03:45 PM
Post HarappaWorld please.

FilhoV
03-15-2020, 04:00 PM
HarappaWorld Oracle results:

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 31.96
2 SW-Asian 22.67
3 Caucasian 13.27
4 W-African 13.04
5 E-African 9.34
6 NE-Euro 7.89
7 S-Indian 1.22
8 American 0.51
9 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 moroccan (behar) 14.58
2 algeria (henn2012) 15.17
3 libya (henn2012) 17.87
4 mozabite (hgdp) 18.18
5 saharawi (henn2012) 19.43
6 morocco-n (henn2012) 19.44
7 morocco-s (henn2012) 19.77
8 morocco-jew (behar) 23.52
9 egypt (henn2012) 24.58
10 tunisia (henn2012) 25.4
11 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 26.65
12 puerto-rican (bryc) 26.75
13 sephardic-jew (behar) 27.2
14 egyptian (behar) 27.75
15 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 28.1
16 ashkenazi (harappa) 29.06
17 tuscan (1000genomes) 29.84
18 tuscan (hgdp) 29.96
19 tuscan (hapmap) 29.99
20 italian (hgdp) 31.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% moroccan (behar) + 31.9% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 4.68
2 73.1% moroccan (behar) + 26.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 4.77
3 59.9% morocco-s (henn2012) + 40.1% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 4.97
4 67.6% moroccan (behar) + 32.4% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 5.03
5 59.1% morocco-s (henn2012) + 40.9% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 5.06
6 73.1% moroccan (behar) + 26.9% romanian-a (behar) @ 5.23
7 54.6% morocco-s (henn2012) + 45.4% morocco-jew (behar) @ 5.48
8 67.2% moroccan (behar) + 32.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 5.7
9 58.4% morocco-s (henn2012) + 41.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 5.8
10 70.1% moroccan (behar) + 29.9% italian (hgdp) @ 6.27
11 73.8% moroccan (behar) + 26.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 6.56
12 81.3% moroccan (behar) + 18.7% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 6.83
13 62.7% mozabite (hgdp) + 37.3% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 6.86
14 81.7% moroccan (behar) + 18.3% adygei (hgdp) @ 6.87
15 76.9% mozabite (hgdp) + 23.1% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 6.99
16 81.4% moroccan (behar) + 18.6% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 7.02
17 77.4% mozabite (hgdp) + 22.6% adygei (hgdp) @ 7.03
18 81.8% moroccan (behar) + 18.2% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 7.11
19 67.8% algeria (henn2012) + 32.2% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 7.11
20 78.8% moroccan (behar) + 21.2% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 7.19

Leto
03-15-2020, 04:16 PM
Almost 8% NE-Euro in Mauritania? I don't think they are typical.

Nomansman
03-15-2020, 04:17 PM
HarappaWorld Oracle results:

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 31.96
2 SW-Asian 22.67
3 Caucasian 13.27
4 W-African 13.04
5 E-African 9.34
6 NE-Euro 7.89
7 S-Indian 1.22
8 American 0.51
9 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 moroccan (behar) 14.58
2 algeria (henn2012) 15.17
3 libya (henn2012) 17.87
4 mozabite (hgdp) 18.18
5 saharawi (henn2012) 19.43
6 morocco-n (henn2012) 19.44
7 morocco-s (henn2012) 19.77
8 morocco-jew (behar) 23.52
9 egypt (henn2012) 24.58
10 tunisia (henn2012) 25.4
11 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 26.65
12 puerto-rican (bryc) 26.75
13 sephardic-jew (behar) 27.2
14 egyptian (behar) 27.75
15 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 28.1
16 ashkenazi (harappa) 29.06
17 tuscan (1000genomes) 29.84
18 tuscan (hgdp) 29.96
19 tuscan (hapmap) 29.99
20 italian (hgdp) 31.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% moroccan (behar) + 31.9% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 4.68
2 73.1% moroccan (behar) + 26.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 4.77
3 59.9% morocco-s (henn2012) + 40.1% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 4.97
4 67.6% moroccan (behar) + 32.4% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 5.03
5 59.1% morocco-s (henn2012) + 40.9% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 5.06
6 73.1% moroccan (behar) + 26.9% romanian-a (behar) @ 5.23
7 54.6% morocco-s (henn2012) + 45.4% morocco-jew (behar) @ 5.48
8 67.2% moroccan (behar) + 32.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 5.7
9 58.4% morocco-s (henn2012) + 41.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 5.8
10 70.1% moroccan (behar) + 29.9% italian (hgdp) @ 6.27
11 73.8% moroccan (behar) + 26.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 6.56
12 81.3% moroccan (behar) + 18.7% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 6.83
13 62.7% mozabite (hgdp) + 37.3% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 6.86
14 81.7% moroccan (behar) + 18.3% adygei (hgdp) @ 6.87
15 76.9% mozabite (hgdp) + 23.1% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 6.99
16 81.4% moroccan (behar) + 18.6% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 7.02
17 77.4% mozabite (hgdp) + 22.6% adygei (hgdp) @ 7.03
18 81.8% moroccan (behar) + 18.2% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 7.11
19 67.8% algeria (henn2012) + 32.2% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 7.11
20 78.8% moroccan (behar) + 21.2% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 7.19

Caucasian and NE-euro is too high. Usually dont see morroccans with this high amount of both components

Leto
03-15-2020, 04:18 PM
Caucasian and NE-euro is too high. Usually dont see morroccans with this high amount of both components
Most Mauritanians are pretty much mulattoes.

Cumansky
03-15-2020, 04:52 PM
Caucasian and NE-euro is too high. Usually dont see morroccans with this high amount of both components

Morocco Jews have higher NE-Euro than this person, Jews are more European, Jews lived in Spain and Portugal

Rgvgjhvv
03-15-2020, 04:55 PM
Would never think in a million years they'd be decently close to Southern European populations. What the heck

Cumansky
03-15-2020, 04:56 PM
Almost 8% NE-Euro in Mauritania? I don't think they are typical.

What is NE-Euro? Polish? Modern people are not proxy of any NE-Euro. For that utilize ancient sample proper examined without outlier admixtures, all these Gedmatch is amateur and already expire date has passed

Cumansky
03-15-2020, 04:57 PM
Most Mauritanians are pretty much mulattoes.

So are Greeks

Leto
03-15-2020, 04:58 PM
What is NE-Euro? Polish? Modern people are not proxy of any NE-Euro. For that utilize ancient sample proper examined without outlier admixtures, all these Gedmatch is amateur and already expire date has passed
It peaks in Finns and Baltic people.

Leto
03-15-2020, 04:59 PM
So are Greeks
Greeks are Southern white people with almost zero African.

Rgvgjhvv
03-15-2020, 05:00 PM
So are Greeks

True

Cumansky
03-15-2020, 05:01 PM
Greeks are Southern white people with almost zero African.

Maybe in Gedmatch not in real life

But am I not as dumb as you label everyone in an ethnic group same, there is difference in every ethnic group you can have Borreby or Libyid in Greece

FilhoV
03-15-2020, 05:52 PM
He is a Sanhadja Berber

Peterski
04-06-2021, 04:04 PM
Why so much European?

Peterski
04-11-2021, 12:48 AM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.8
2 West_Med 21.89
3 North_Atlantic 15.3
4 Sub-Saharan 13.35
5 Red_Sea 13.12
6 Northeast_African 8.68
7 Amerindian 0.75
8 Oceanian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 5.95
2 Algerian 6.11
3 Tunisian 7.07
4 Moroccan 9.8
5 Algerian_Jewish 20.48
6 Libyan_Jewish 21.05
7 Egyptian 21.68
8 Tunisian_Jewish 21.89
9 West_Sicilian 22.12
10 Sephardic_Jewish 22.39
11 Italian_Jewish 22.66
12 East_Sicilian 23.08
13 Ashkenazi 23.3
14 South_Italian 23.77
15 Tuscan 25.15
16 Italian_Abruzzo 25.31
17 Central_Greek 25.39
18 Bedouin 26.59
19 Greek_Thessaly 26.85
20 Jordanian 28.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.3% Mozabite_Berber + 7.7% Southeast_English @ 4.48
2 92.7% Mozabite_Berber + 7.3% West_Scottish @ 4.49
3 92.5% Mozabite_Berber + 7.5% Southwest_English @ 4.53
4 92.7% Mozabite_Berber + 7.3% Orcadian @ 4.53
5 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Irish @ 4.54
6 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Danish @ 4.57
7 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% North_Dutch @ 4.58
8 89.3% Mozabite_Berber + 10.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.6
9 90.1% Mozabite_Berber + 9.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.6
10 93.2% Mozabite_Berber + 6.8% Norwegian @ 4.61
11 90.9% Mozabite_Berber + 9.1% French @ 4.61
12 89.8% Mozabite_Berber + 10.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.62
13 91.7% Mozabite_Berber + 8.3% West_German @ 4.62
14 91.9% Mozabite_Berber + 8.1% South_Dutch @ 4.64
15 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% North_German @ 4.66
16 89.4% Mozabite_Berber + 10.6% Portuguese @ 4.68
17 89.9% Mozabite_Berber + 10.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.69
18 89.4% Mozabite_Berber + 10.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.71
19 90.8% Mozabite_Berber + 9.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.71
20 93.4% Mozabite_Berber + 6.6% Swedish @ 4.73

Here is another Mauritanian, from Trarza Region, for comparison:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trarza_Region

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 25.98
2 East_Med 22.63
3 Red_Sea 16.78
4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
5 Northeast_African 14.42
6 North_Atlantic 5.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 7.8
2 Moroccan 8.59
3 Algerian 10.1
4 Tunisian 11.23
5 Egyptian 23.12
6 Libyan_Jewish 27.2
7 Algerian_Jewish 27.44
8 Bedouin 28.47
9 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
10 Sephardic_Jewish 30.19
11 East_Sicilian 30.29
12 Italian_Jewish 30.47
13 West_Sicilian 30.63
14 Jordanian 31.01
15 Ashkenazi 31.04
16 South_Italian 31.24
17 Syrian 32.3
18 Central_Greek 32.53
19 Palestinian 32.58
20 Italian_Abruzzo 33.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.4% Moroccan + 9.6% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.09
2 90.8% Moroccan + 9.2% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.2
3 91% Moroccan + 9% Luhya @ 4.2
4 89.9% Moroccan + 10.1% San @ 4.27
5 91.6% Moroccan + 8.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.31
6 92.2% Moroccan + 7.8% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.55
7 92.4% Moroccan + 7.6% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.62
8 92.8% Moroccan + 7.2% Mandenka @ 4.87
9 93.4% Moroccan + 6.6% Yoruban @ 5.03
10 90.9% Moroccan + 9.1% Sudanese @ 5.56
11 90.8% Mozabite_Berber + 9.2% Maasai @ 5.56
12 89% Moroccan + 11% Sandawe @ 5.61
13 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Sudanese @ 5.64
14 92.6% Mozabite_Berber + 7.4% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.67
15 90.9% Mozabite_Berber + 9.1% Sandawe @ 5.74
16 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Hadza @ 5.79
17 91.5% Moroccan + 8.5% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.93
18 93.4% Mozabite_Berber + 6.6% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 5.95
19 92.9% Mozabite_Berber + 7.1% San @ 5.96
20 90% Moroccan + 10% Maasai @ 6.2

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HarappaWorld:

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 34.95
2 SW-Asian 29.33
3 W-African 15.69
4 E-African 13.41
5 Caucasian 4.5
6 NE-Euro 1.42
7 NE-Asian 0.69
8 Beringian 0.01


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 moroccan (behar) 4.1
2 algeria (henn2012) 6.91
3 mozabite (hgdp) 8.01
4 saharawi (henn2012) 8.57
5 morocco-s (henn2012) 12.86
6 morocco-n (henn2012) 13.82
7 libya (henn2012) 15.26
8 tunisia (henn2012) 19.98
9 egypt (henn2012) 30.03
10 egyptian (behar) 33.02
11 puerto-rican (bryc) 33.63
12 morocco-jew (behar) 34.18
13 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 34.54
14 yemenese (behar) 36.41
15 sephardic-jew (behar) 38.12
16 dominican (bryc) 39.01
17 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 39.96
18 ashkenazi (harappa) 41.25
19 sardinian (hgdp) 41.44
20 jordanian (behar) 41.54


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% anuak (pagani) @ 2.44
2 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% sudanese (pagani) @ 2.44
3 96.5% moroccan (behar) + 3.5% gumuz (pagani) @ 2.55
4 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% maasai (1000genomes) @ 2.78
5 95.5% moroccan (behar) + 4.5% hadza (henn2011) @ 2.8
6 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% bulala (henn2012) @ 2.88
7 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% ariblacksmith (pagani) @ 2.9
8 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% aricultivator (pagani) @ 2.94
9 95% moroccan (behar) + 5% sandawe (henn2011) @ 2.99
10 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% wolayta (pagani) @ 3.13
11 95.3% moroccan (behar) + 4.7% hema (xing) @ 3.15
12 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% esomali (pagani) @ 3.24
13 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% somali (pagani) @ 3.24
14 96% moroccan (behar) + 4% alur (xing) @ 3.27
15 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% oromo (pagani) @ 3.28
16 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% somali (harappa) @ 3.38
17 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% afar (pagani) @ 3.39
18 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% amhara (pagani) @ 3.43
19 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% tygray (pagani) @ 3.45
20 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% ethiopian (behar) @ 3.53

Leto
04-11-2021, 07:25 PM
Here is another Mauritanian, from Trarza Region, for comparison:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trarza_Region

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 25.98
2 East_Med 22.63
3 Red_Sea 16.78
4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
5 Northeast_African 14.42
6 North_Atlantic 5.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 7.8
2 Moroccan 8.59
3 Algerian 10.1
4 Tunisian 11.23
5 Egyptian 23.12
6 Libyan_Jewish 27.2
7 Algerian_Jewish 27.44
8 Bedouin 28.47
9 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
10 Sephardic_Jewish 30.19
11 East_Sicilian 30.29
12 Italian_Jewish 30.47
13 West_Sicilian 30.63
14 Jordanian 31.01
15 Ashkenazi 31.04
16 South_Italian 31.24
17 Syrian 32.3
18 Central_Greek 32.53
19 Palestinian 32.58
20 Italian_Abruzzo 33.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.4% Moroccan + 9.6% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.09
2 90.8% Moroccan + 9.2% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.2
3 91% Moroccan + 9% Luhya @ 4.2
4 89.9% Moroccan + 10.1% San @ 4.27
5 91.6% Moroccan + 8.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.31
6 92.2% Moroccan + 7.8% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.55
7 92.4% Moroccan + 7.6% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.62
8 92.8% Moroccan + 7.2% Mandenka @ 4.87
9 93.4% Moroccan + 6.6% Yoruban @ 5.03
10 90.9% Moroccan + 9.1% Sudanese @ 5.56
11 90.8% Mozabite_Berber + 9.2% Maasai @ 5.56
12 89% Moroccan + 11% Sandawe @ 5.61
13 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Sudanese @ 5.64
14 92.6% Mozabite_Berber + 7.4% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.67
15 90.9% Mozabite_Berber + 9.1% Sandawe @ 5.74
16 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Hadza @ 5.79
17 91.5% Moroccan + 8.5% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.93
18 93.4% Mozabite_Berber + 6.6% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 5.95
19 92.9% Mozabite_Berber + 7.1% San @ 5.96
20 90% Moroccan + 10% Maasai @ 6.2

=====

HarappaWorld:

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 34.95
2 SW-Asian 29.33
3 W-African 15.69
4 E-African 13.41
5 Caucasian 4.5
6 NE-Euro 1.42
7 NE-Asian 0.69
8 Beringian 0.01


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 moroccan (behar) 4.1
2 algeria (henn2012) 6.91
3 mozabite (hgdp) 8.01
4 saharawi (henn2012) 8.57
5 morocco-s (henn2012) 12.86
6 morocco-n (henn2012) 13.82
7 libya (henn2012) 15.26
8 tunisia (henn2012) 19.98
9 egypt (henn2012) 30.03
10 egyptian (behar) 33.02
11 puerto-rican (bryc) 33.63
12 morocco-jew (behar) 34.18
13 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 34.54
14 yemenese (behar) 36.41
15 sephardic-jew (behar) 38.12
16 dominican (bryc) 39.01
17 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 39.96
18 ashkenazi (harappa) 41.25
19 sardinian (hgdp) 41.44
20 jordanian (behar) 41.54


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% anuak (pagani) @ 2.44
2 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% sudanese (pagani) @ 2.44
3 96.5% moroccan (behar) + 3.5% gumuz (pagani) @ 2.55
4 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% maasai (1000genomes) @ 2.78
5 95.5% moroccan (behar) + 4.5% hadza (henn2011) @ 2.8
6 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% bulala (henn2012) @ 2.88
7 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% ariblacksmith (pagani) @ 2.9
8 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% aricultivator (pagani) @ 2.94
9 95% moroccan (behar) + 5% sandawe (henn2011) @ 2.99
10 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% wolayta (pagani) @ 3.13
11 95.3% moroccan (behar) + 4.7% hema (xing) @ 3.15
12 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% esomali (pagani) @ 3.24
13 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% somali (pagani) @ 3.24
14 96% moroccan (behar) + 4% alur (xing) @ 3.27
15 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% oromo (pagani) @ 3.28
16 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% somali (harappa) @ 3.38
17 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% afar (pagani) @ 3.39
18 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% amhara (pagani) @ 3.43
19 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% tygray (pagani) @ 3.45
20 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% ethiopian (behar) @ 3.53
He's about 30% black. That's not a lot considering the georgraphic location.

4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
5 Northeast_African 14.42

3 W-African 15.69
4 E-African 13.41

Hamilcar
04-11-2021, 07:33 PM
He's about 30% black. That's not a lot considering the georgraphic location.

4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
5 Northeast_African 14.42

3 W-African 15.69
4 E-African 13.41


it's because those who are able to purchase these tests are "beidan" (which is the arabo-berber elite of the country)



Arabs and Berbers became one in these areas of the Maghreb and became known as Beidane (Whites) or Moors. The White Moors’ enslavement of black people, over centuries, produced an Arabized and Islamised black population, sometimes called Black Moors or Black Arabs by other nearby black populations. More often, these black members of Arab-Islamic civilisation are referred to as Haratines, with the connotation of being newly freed from slavery, though large percentages of this group remain enslaved. In the northern parts of all the Maghrebi states except in Mauritania, a similar Arab-Berber alliance to exploit Black labour did not occur.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13629387.2019.1670645

Peterski
04-11-2021, 07:38 PM
"beidan" (which is the arabo-berber elite of the country)

I have been told that Mauritania has the following ethnic composition:

- ca. 40% are Black and speak African languages
- ca. 30% are Beidan/Beidhan (speak Arabic)
- ca. 30% are Hertanis (also speak Arabic)

Which group do Sanhadja Berbers fall into? Probably the 4th group?

Hamilcar
04-11-2021, 08:00 PM
I have been told that Mauritania has the following ethnic composition:

- ca. 40% are Black and speak African languages
- ca. 30% are Beidan/Beidhan (speak Arabic)
- ca. 30% are Hertanis (also speak Arabic)

Which group do Sanhadja Berbers fall into? Probably the 4th group?

I don't really know much about these % but 30% for hartani/haratin seems way too much (they are a community of 100K/150K at most) and sanhaja would fall into the beidan category

JQP4545
04-12-2021, 03:13 AM
Mauritanians are native North Africans. They are very high in E1b1b.

Chaos One
04-12-2021, 03:28 AM
Interesting how Mauritanians would fit perfectly as Pardo/Black Brazilians (except that usual 10% Native American that most brazilians do have).

Sora
04-12-2021, 03:16 PM
Dodecad k12b?

jfgh676
04-12-2021, 03:33 PM
Thats basically my result (albeit with more SSA) and im from north morocco

Peterski
04-12-2021, 03:39 PM
Dodecad k12b?

Population
Gedrosia -
Siberian -
Northwest_African 35.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.05 Pct
Atlantic_Med 21.35 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian -
East_African 10.3 Pct
Southwest_Asian 15.32 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 5.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 12.06 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian (Dodecad) 9.43
2 Moroccans (Behar) 10.46
3 Moroccan (Dodecad) 13.57
4 Egyptans (Behar) 37.79
5 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 40.03
6 Canarias (1000Genomes) 41.89
7 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 44.72
8 Yemenese (Behar) 44.95
9 Jordanians (Behar) 46.07
10 Portuguese (Dodecad) 46.29
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 46.42
12 Palestinian (HGDP) 46.48
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 46.75
14 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 47.43
15 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 47.46
16 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 47.66
17 Murcia (1000Genomes) 47.73
18 C_Italian (Dodecad) 48.24
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 48.44
20 Lebanese (Behar) 48.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 12.2% LWK30 (Behar) @ 5.51
2 88.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 11.9% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 5.68
3 90.3% Moroccans (Behar) + 9.7% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 6.45
4 89.6% Moroccans (Behar) + 10.4% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 6.51
5 89.6% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 10.4% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 6.72
6 91.9% Moroccans (Behar) + 8.1% LWK30 (Behar) @ 6.84
7 92.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 7.9% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 6.95
8 93.4% Algerian (Dodecad) + 6.6% LWK30 (Behar) @ 7.03
9 90.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 9.9% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 7.08
10 93.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 6.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 7.08
11 92% Algerian (Dodecad) + 8% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 7.19
12 92.8% Algerian (Dodecad) + 7.2% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 7.32
13 94.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5.4% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 7.42
14 94.9% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5.1% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 7.54
15 93.3% Moroccans (Behar) + 6.7% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 7.55
16 89.5% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 10.5% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 7.62
17 86.2% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 13.8% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 7.62
18 93.7% Moroccans (Behar) + 6.3% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 7.75
19 95.4% Algerian (Dodecad) + 4.6% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 7.76
20 95.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 4.4% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 7.78

jfgh676
04-12-2021, 03:43 PM
Population
Gedrosia -
Siberian -
Northwest_African 35.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.05 Pct
Atlantic_Med 21.35 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian -
East_African 10.3 Pct
Southwest_Asian 15.32 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 5.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 12.06 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian (Dodecad) 9.43
2 Moroccans (Behar) 10.46
3 Moroccan (Dodecad) 13.57
4 Egyptans (Behar) 37.79
5 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 40.03
6 Canarias (1000Genomes) 41.89
7 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 44.72
8 Yemenese (Behar) 44.95
9 Jordanians (Behar) 46.07
10 Portuguese (Dodecad) 46.29
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 46.42
12 Palestinian (HGDP) 46.48
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 46.75
14 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 47.43
15 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 47.46
16 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 47.66
17 Murcia (1000Genomes) 47.73
18 C_Italian (Dodecad) 48.24
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 48.44
20 Lebanese (Behar) 48.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 12.2% LWK30 (Behar) @ 5.51
2 88.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 11.9% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 5.68
3 90.3% Moroccans (Behar) + 9.7% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 6.45
4 89.6% Moroccans (Behar) + 10.4% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 6.51
5 89.6% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 10.4% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 6.72
6 91.9% Moroccans (Behar) + 8.1% LWK30 (Behar) @ 6.84
7 92.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 7.9% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 6.95
8 93.4% Algerian (Dodecad) + 6.6% LWK30 (Behar) @ 7.03
9 90.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 9.9% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 7.08
10 93.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 6.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 7.08
11 92% Algerian (Dodecad) + 8% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 7.19
12 92.8% Algerian (Dodecad) + 7.2% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 7.32
13 94.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5.4% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 7.42
14 94.9% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5.1% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 7.54
15 93.3% Moroccans (Behar) + 6.7% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 7.55
16 89.5% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 10.5% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 7.62
17 86.2% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 13.8% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 7.62
18 93.7% Moroccans (Behar) + 6.3% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 7.75
19 95.4% Algerian (Dodecad) + 4.6% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 7.76
20 95.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 4.4% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 7.78

compare it to moroccan
# Population Percent
1 Northwest_African 27.48
2 Atlantic_Med 20.95
3 Caucasus 15.51
4 Southwest_Asian 15.33
5 Sub_Saharan 11.4
6 East_African 6.49
7 North_European 1.82
8 Southeast_Asian 1.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian (Dodecad) 9.08
2 Moroccans (Behar) 18.62
3 Moroccan (Dodecad) 19.7
4 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 28.58
5 Egyptans (Behar) 28.8
6 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 33.03
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 35.01
8 Sicilian (Dodecad) 35.02
9 Jordanians (Behar) 35.38
10 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 35.71
11 Palestinian (HGDP) 35.9
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 36.05
13 Yemenese (Behar) 36.5
14 Canarias (1000Genomes) 36.85
15 Lebanese (Behar) 37.14
16 C_Italian (Dodecad) 37.76
17 Syrians (Behar) 38.45
18 O_Italian (Dodecad) 38.72
19 Greek (Dodecad) 39.98
20 TSI30 (Metspalu) 40.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.4% Algerian (Dodecad) + 6.6% LWK30 (Behar) @ 6.49
2 93.5% Algerian (Dodecad) + 6.5% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 6.49
3 93.8% Algerian (Dodecad) + 6.2% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 6.56
4 94.1% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5.9% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 6.57
5 94.4% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5.6% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 6.62
6 95% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 6.75
7 95% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5% YRI30 (HGDP) @ 6.75
8 94.9% Algerian (Dodecad) + 5.1% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 6.82
9 86% Algerian (Dodecad) + 14% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.95
10 87.8% Algerian (Dodecad) + 12.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 7.06
11 86.2% Algerian (Dodecad) + 13.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 7.14
12 88.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 11.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 7.15
13 83.3% Algerian (Dodecad) + 16.7% Egyptans (Behar) @ 7.15
14 87.1% Algerian (Dodecad) + 12.9% Syrians (Behar) @ 7.16
15 86% Algerian (Dodecad) + 14% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 7.17

TheMaestro
04-12-2021, 03:45 PM
I've read this marihuana gedmatch results, there is something wrong with me.

Peterski
01-12-2022, 01:36 AM
I have been told that Mauritania has the following ethnic composition:

- ca. 40% are Black and speak African languages
- ca. 30% are Beidan/Beidhan (speak Arabic)
- ca. 30% are Hertanis (also speak Arabic)

Which group do Sanhadja Berbers fall into? Probably the 4th group?

Here different proportions are given:

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-is-the-ethnic-composition-of-mauritania.html

- 40% Haratin
- 30% Bidhan (but 53% of citizens)
- 30% Black

JQP4545
01-13-2022, 09:22 PM
How much did the Arabs affect the DNA of the Mauritanians?

FilhoV
02-26-2023, 02:19 AM
Bump

FilhoV
05-04-2023, 01:18 PM
If anyone would like to translate this into coordinates for global 25 that would be greatly appreciated