Confused with GedMatch

[joanna_38]

So i want to make this post to ask a few things that had been bothering me these past few days.
So, whenever i go to check my GedMatch K13, K15 etc. Eurogenes ancestry, i can't understand first of all why it doesn't catch my
Greek DNA at all. My dad is Greek, last name is Greek, all his family is Greek. Shouldn't Greek be on top? Except, i'm seeing some
ancestry like Hungary (???), Serbia, and countries i have no correlation with. Well, considering my grandpa is from Odessa, Ukraine which
is very close to Moldova. His side could probably be from there? But my dad's entire family line, and grandparents are Greek. Then why
GedMatch doesn't show any Greek? I'm a tiny bit confused. I have a lot of different countries in my DNA, but only those Balkan countries
showed up. I can't see any of the results i got from MyHeritage in there. Not even Baltic & Finland, no Greek or South Italian, just the Balkan
countries that i wrote above.

I'm just making this post for people to take me out of this confusion cause to be honest, i'm a bit puzzled by all of this.

[Kyp]

First of all Single Mode on Gedmatch is meaningless for mixed persons. A Greek + Russian person obviously wouldn't be closest to Greeks or Russians but rather in between those groups.

Can you show your Eurogenes mixed modes?

[Leto]

I think I've explained it to you before. You aren't close to full Greeks because you are half Russian and Russians are pretty distant from Greeks. So naturally you end up plotting somewhere halfway between Russia and Greece. And by convergence your position is close to Balkan Slavs since they are an ancient mix of Slavs and local tribes who were similar to Greeks.
I think MDLP K23b perfectly modeled you as half Western Russian and half mainland Greek. I suggest you put that in your signature :thumb001:

[joanna_38]

I think I've explained it to you before. You aren't close to full Greeks because you are half Russian and Russians are pretty distant from Greeks. So naturally you end up plotting somewhere halfway between Russia and Greece. And by convergence your position is close to Balkan Slavs since they are an ancient mix of Slavs and local tribes who were similar to Greeks.
I think MDLP K23b perfectly modeled you as half Western Russian and half mainland Greek. I suggest you put that in your signature :thumb001:

So if my dad were to do it, it'd be mostly Greek with some Balkan perhaps?

[joanna_38]

First of all Single Mode on Gedmatch is meaningless for mixed persons. A Greek + Russian person obviously wouldn't be closest to Greeks or Russians but rather in between those groups.

Can you show your Eurogenes mixed modes?

Which one?

[Kyp]

Which one?

Eurogenes K13 or K15

[Nurzat]

Oracle is only showing to which populations is your mix closest. so it's normal you get populations that are between Russians and Greeks (Moldovan, Romanian, Bulgarian, Yugoslav), since all these are basically a mix of East Slavic and pre-Slavic Balkan in different %.

imagine someone I know (Romanian) got 30% MENA and 12% Indian DNA out of nowhere xD well, maybe his parents aren't that surprised in the end.

so your result is just normal for a mixed person. I am mixed as well and I ended up more similar in %/scores to NW Balkans (Slovenes, Croats, Bosnians, Serbs) and even to Hungarians or Austrians, then to Ukrainians or Romanians (my mix). it doesn't mean that I have any Eastcentral Euro or NW Balkan ancestry (I don't have). it's just that my mix gave me less Mediterranean genes than Romanians but more than Ukrainians and less Northern genes than Ukrainians but more than Romanians, which put me away from both these two nations that I inherit directly, closer to nations I have nothing to do with in matter of recent ancestry (but they are closer indeed when looking at deeper ancestry, at macro-ingredients, like Early European Farmer, EHG, Aryan/steppe, Caucasus ancestry etc)

[Leto]

So if my dad were to do it, it'd be mostly Greek with some Balkan perhaps?
Yes, your dad would come up as Northern Greek.

[Freeroostah]

Eurogenes is BS and outdated
Most Northern Greeks get Bulgarian as their closest match. Dont worry :)

[joanna_38]

Yes, your dad would come up as Northern Greek.

my dad's parents are actually from central west Greece
only one last name is from Northern Greece
the rest are from Arta and Messologi :D

[Jana]

Eurogenes is BS and outdated
Most Northern Greeks get Bulgarian as their closest match. Dont worry :)

That's why updated Eurogenes exist. :thumb001:

[Leto]

my dad's parents are actually from central west Greece
only one last name is from Northern Greece
the rest are from Arta and Messologi :D
Okay, let's say Mainland Greek. My point is still valid. Your dad is neither Aegean, nor Cretan, nor Pontic, nor Cypriot.

[Peterski]

I remember that user (he is no longer active) who is 50% Russian plus 50% Danish, and he scored East German.

Because East Germans are a circa 50:50 mixture of Germanic and Slavic.

Here we have a similar situation, you are scoring Balkan because Balkan people are a mix of Slavic and Greek etc.

[joanna_38]

I remember that user (he is no longer active) who is 50% Russian plus 50% Danish, and he scored East German.

Because East Germans are a circa 50:50 mixture of Germanic and Slavic.

Here we have a similar situation, you are scoring Balkan because Balkan people are a mix of Slavic and Greek etc.

So GedMatch is just guessing where you could be from but is never exactly accurate?

EDIT: For example, in 23andMe it'd be less Balkan for example?

[joanna_38]

You should check your "Mixed Mode" and "Admix-4" Oracle results, it should show you what kind of a mixture you are.

Also, can you post your Eurogenes K15 & Eurogenes K36 percentages? You've posted only your Eurogenes K13 so far:


K13 EUROGENES
North_Atlantic 27.68 Pct // Baltic 28.95 Pct // West_Med 13.34 Pct // West_Asian 11.01 Pct // East_Med 12.82 Pct

For example in this tool based on Eurogenes K15, your position should be somewhere between Greeks and Russians:

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm



23andMe does not distinguish between Greek and Balkan, they just have one "Greek&Balkan" category.

But you would score a mix of Greek&Balkan and Eastern European (Russia is under Eastern European).

You would maybe also score some Italian.

Oh how do i find mixed mode? i looked for it everywhere but its nowhere to be found.

EDIT: NEVERMIND FOUND IT SORRY

[Dušan]

I got +90% Moldavian in mixed oracle, because similar percentage of early-Slavic and paleo-Balkan genes that Moldavians and Serbs have.

So, don't take Gedmatch literally.