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Nassbean
03-19-2020, 01:35 PM
Ok guys these are my ftdna results :

https://i.imgur.com/i76Mdb0.png


0% iberian but 21% west and central europe ??? I've never seen such result for a moroccan in my life

Btw i'm J1 but still no arab ancestry detected...

Jana
03-19-2020, 01:36 PM
FTDNA is unreliable from my experience.

Benyzero
03-19-2020, 01:37 PM
Dayumm shockin

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 01:42 PM
FTDNA is unreliable from my experience.

It's accurate for north africans at least based on what I saw (better than MH)

Jana
03-19-2020, 01:42 PM
It's accurate for north africans at least based on what I saw (better than MH)

It has me as 10% British Isles, just saying.

nittionia
03-19-2020, 01:44 PM
I got shocked too

Adamm
03-19-2020, 01:50 PM
G25 > FTDNA

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 01:54 PM
G25 > FTDNA

it's not about perfect accuracy but compare my result with other moroccan results and you'll see that this west euro ancestry is totally unusual

Sora
03-19-2020, 02:02 PM
Wow! Really shocking & atypical! :shocked:

Also, does this Moroccan 23andme result look atypical to you?

https://i.redd.it/zm0ddr1gku821.png

I wanna ask something: have you ever tried Gedmatch(especially Harappaworld and Dodecad k12b)?

Sora
03-19-2020, 02:03 PM
Double post error

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:10 PM
Wow! Really shocking & atypical! :shocked:

Also, does this Moroccan 23andme result look atypical to you?

https://i.redd.it/zm0ddr1gku821.png

I wanna ask something: have you ever tried Gedmatch(especially Harappaworld and Dodecad k12b)?

his results aren't that shocking but he score more euro than the average and at least he score some iberian which is logical. And yes I've tried gedmatch before but None of the calculators are accurate for north africans only G25 is

I think I'll buy my G25 coordinates and do a ydna test because it starts to be weird

Kyp
03-19-2020, 02:11 PM
Congrats now the Spaniards can't bully you anymore!

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:15 PM
Congrats now the Spaniards can't bully you anymore!

No iberian no ssa no arab ancestry ...I'm blessed :angel lol

Leto
03-19-2020, 02:17 PM
I always knew you had more European than most run-of-the-mill Moroccans. Seriously, remember your Atlantic scores from Gedmatch. You even got 5% North European on Dodecad. That's atypical for Moroccans and Algerians.

Babak
03-19-2020, 02:18 PM
Bro it means you're a moroccan warrior. All hail the berberid race

Adamm
03-19-2020, 02:18 PM
I always knew you had more European than most run-of-the-mill Moroccans. Seriously, remember your Atlantic scores from Gedmatch. You even got 5% North European on Dodecad. That's atypical for Moroccans and Algerians.

He probably has some ancestry from Andalus (he's also J1).

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:23 PM
I always knew you had more European than most run-of-the-mill Moroccans. Seriously, remember your Atlantic scores from Gedmatch. You even got 5% North European on Dodecad. That's atypical for Moroccans and Algerians.

Yes exactly I also thought about those results ...seriously idk what to think now I should get my G25 coordinates asap and do a y-dna test to know my exact subclade

Chaos One
03-19-2020, 02:24 PM
FT only work well with full euro people and even sometimes make mistakes. I'm 0 Italian on FT, all went into Iberian and Eastern Europe lol

frankhammer
03-19-2020, 02:24 PM
Our brother from another mother.

Pine
03-19-2020, 02:26 PM
Wow! Really shocking & atypical! :shocked:

Also, does this Moroccan 23andme result look atypical to you?

https://i.redd.it/zm0ddr1gku821.png

I wanna ask something: have you ever tried Gedmatch(especially Harappaworld and Dodecad k12b)?

Those 23andMe results are pre-update.

Blondie
03-19-2020, 02:26 PM
I think there is a dark secret in your family, i mean french colonists, flirting with grand mother etc :cool::thumb001:

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:27 PM
Bro it means you're a moroccan warrior. All hail the berberid race

thanks my persian brother

gixajo
03-19-2020, 02:33 PM
Yes exactly I also thought about those results ...seriously idk what to think now I should get my G25 coordinates asap and do a y-dna test to know my exact subclade

Get them.(g25 coordinates)

My FTDNA results were also most atypical comparing with those of MyHeritage DnaLand and LivingDna.

Did you make saliva test with FTDNA or upload other company raw data?

Sora
03-19-2020, 02:34 PM
his results aren't that shocking but he score more euro than the average and at least he score some iberian which is logical. And yes I've tried gedmatch before but None of the calculators are accurate for north africans only G25 is

I think I'll buy my G25 coordinates and do a ydna test because it starts to be weird

As I've observed, most Moroccans score more European than other North African groups, but they look darker than those groups. :/

Btw, my favourite North African group are Moroccans. Also can't wait to hear your national anthem on saturday evening!... (Saad told every Moroccans to sing the anthem that time)

Ljubic
03-19-2020, 02:35 PM
FTDNA is only good for Y-DNA and mtDNA if you care about these things.

Token
03-19-2020, 02:39 PM
Post your Gedmatch results.

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:42 PM
Get them.(g25 coordinates)

My FTDNA results were also most atypical comparing with those of MyHeritage DnaLand and LivingDna.

Did you make saliva test with FTDNA or upload other company raw data?

I'm on several NA groups and all people agreed on ftdna and 23andme being the best companies for autosomal (btw they will soon update their database). On myheritage I scored 11% iberian and 11% sardinian and on dnaland I score 10% iberian, 1.4% finnish and 26% mediterranean islander (sardinia?) ..they all give me weird results meanwhile other moroccans seem to have "stable" and logical results in average 70% NA with some arab, ssa and iberian/italian. For ftdna I uploaded my raw data from MH Idk if it can influence the results

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:45 PM
As I've observed, most Moroccans score more European than other North African groups, but they look darker than those groups. :/

Btw, my favourite North African group are Moroccans. Also can't wait to hear your national anthem on saturday evening!... (Saad told every Moroccans to sing the anthem that time)

In general results aren't that different between maghrebis and physically there are no big differences between coastal north africans. haha good to see some admiration for my country thanks

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:46 PM
Post your Gedmatch results.

which one ?

Token
03-19-2020, 02:47 PM
which one ?
K15

gixajo
03-19-2020, 02:51 PM
I'm on several NA groups and all people agreed on ftdna and 23andme being the best companies for autosomal (btw they will soon update their database). On myheritage I scored 11% iberian and 11% sardinian and on dnaland I score 10% iberian, 1.4% finnish and 26% mediterranean islander (sardinia?) ..they all give me weird results meanwhile other moroccans seem to have "stable" and logical results in average 70% NA with some arab, ssa and iberian/italian. For ftdna I uploaded my raw data from MH Idk if it can influence the results

My FTDNA results were also from MH raw data.

All Moroccan results I´ve seen used to be quite homogeneous in MH. 70/90% North African and then mostly European(South usually but sometimes also North) and some Arab as you said.

Get your g25 and you will have more data to get a better overview.

You know perfectly that we must no take any single result as an absolute truth.

Didn´t you tried Morley´s calculator to get a prediction about your paternal haplogroup?

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 02:58 PM
K15

https://i.imgur.com/WYEM79s.jpg

Token
03-19-2020, 03:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WYEM79s.jpg

Looks like a regular North African, i don't see any exotic ancestry.

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 03:02 PM
My FTDNA results were also from MH raw data.

All Moroccan results I´ve seen used to be quite homogeneous in MH. 70/90% North African and then mostly European(South usually but sometimes also North) and some Arab as you said.

Get your g25 and you will have more data to get a better overview.

You know perfectly that we must no take any single result as an absolute truth.

Didn´t you tried Morley´s calculator to get a prediction about your paternal haplogroup?

Yes sure I'll get them soon and yes this is the morley prediction :

https://i.imgur.com/YBgPROj.jpg

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 03:02 PM
Looks like a regular North African, i don't see any exotic ancestry.

indeed that's why those ftdna results are weird

Adamm
03-19-2020, 03:11 PM
You should get your G25 coordinates and if you're more serious also do Dantelabs (its 300euro right now), it will give you autosomal RAW dna (full genome sequence) and you'll be able to upload on Yfull and discover your haplogroup + subclade.

gixajo
03-19-2020, 03:14 PM
Eurogenes k15 original spreadsheet

Distance to: Nassbean
8.54805826 Mozabite_Berber
8.75207404 Tunisian
9.64002593 Algerian
11.24119656 Moroccan
19.69465156 West_Sicilian
19.99951999 Algerian_Jewish
21.42116944 Italian_Jewish
21.97207091 Sephardic_Jewish
22.09344247 Tuscan
22.30451300 East_Sicilian
22.95235718 Ashkenazi
23.16158242 Tunisian_Jewish
23.46300918 South_Italian
23.71409075 Libyan_Jewish
23.90314624 Italian_Abruzzo
24.74286968 Central_Greek
25.02359886 North_Italian
25.67817751 Greek
26.15355999 Greek_Thessaly
26.27305273 Egyptian
27.50118543 Spanish_Extremadura
27.92624393 Spanish_Andalucia
28.20661093 Spanish_Murcia
28.42679194 Portuguese
29.48021540 Spanish_Galicia

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 03:22 PM
You should get your G25 coordinates and if you're more serious also do Dantelabs (its 300euro right now), it will give you autosomal RAW dna (full genome sequence) and you'll be able to upload on Yfull and discover your haplogroup + subclade.

Yes I'll get them soon I hope and as for dantelabs I'm curious to see your results because I suppose you ordered your kit but honestly I don't think I'll buy it it's way too expensive for me. Where do you think I should do a y-dna test ? ftdna or yseq ?

Pedro Ruben
03-19-2020, 03:24 PM
Interesting!

Adamm
03-19-2020, 03:33 PM
Yes I'll get them soon I hope and as for dantelabs I'm curious to see your results because I suppose you ordered your kit but honestly I don't think I'll buy it it's way too expensive for me. Where do you think I should do a y-dna test ? ftdna or yseq ?

I've sent my Dantelabs kit like a week ago (I had it all the time at my house but I was too lazy to send it lol), and they're already quality checking it and someone else I know he sent it like 2 weeks ago and they're already sequencing his DNA rn and they should be finished this week, so they're working faster than they promise :). But if you want to do something cheaper you could go for FTDNA, I wouldn't advise to do YSEQ because maybe you're not even J1 xD so we don't know for sure yet in which haplogroup division you belong. Either do FTDNA str markers or do a 23andMe test to make sure about your main haplogroup branch.

gixajo
03-19-2020, 03:41 PM
I've sent my Dantelabs kit like a week ago (I had it all the time at my house but I was too lazy to send it lol), and they're already quality checking it and someone else I know he sent it like 2 weeks ago and they're already sequencing his DNA rn and they should be finished this week, so they're working faster than they promise :). But if you want to do something cheaper you could go for FTDNA, I wouldn't advise to do YSEQ because maybe you're not even J1 xD so we don't know for sure yet in which haplogroup division you belong. Either do FTDNA str markers or do a 23andMe test to make sure about your main haplogroup branch.

I am still very doubtful about me being r1a1a1 as Morley´s predictor told me....

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 03:47 PM
I've sent my Dantelabs kit like a week ago (I had it all the time at my house but I was too lazy to send it lol), and they're already quality checking it and someone else I know he sent it like 2 weeks ago and they're already sequencing his DNA rn and they should be finished this week, so they're working faster than they promise :). But if you want to do something cheaper you could go for FTDNA, I wouldn't advise to do YSEQ because maybe you're not even J1 xD so we don't know for sure yet in which haplogroup division you belong. Either do FTDNA str markers or do a 23andMe test to make sure about your main haplogroup branch.

if one of my ftdna match has his y-dna do you think it's possible that i've the same ?

mitalit
03-19-2020, 03:47 PM
I am still very doubtful about me being r1a1a1 as Morley´s predictor told me.... Yo no me fío mucho de esos predictores

gixajo
03-19-2020, 03:51 PM
Yo no me fío mucho de esos predictores

Yo tampoco, pero ahora mismo no tengo más.

gixajo
03-19-2020, 03:52 PM
if one of my ftdna match has his y-dna do you think it's possible that i've the same ?

If you share paternal lineage with him, yes.

Adamm
03-19-2020, 03:59 PM
I am still very doubtful about me being r1a1a1 as Morley´s predictor told me....

You should try to make sure by purchasing 23andMe.

Adamm
03-19-2020, 04:00 PM
if one of my ftdna match has his y-dna do you think it's possible that i've the same ?

No it doesn't mean a thing.

Leto
03-19-2020, 04:10 PM
FTDNA is releasing an update soon anyway.

gixajo
03-19-2020, 05:17 PM
You should try to make sure by purchasing 23andMe.

I will do, but I will wait till the health alert ends.

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 05:32 PM
No it doesn't mean a thing.

Btw I just bought my coordinates. Do you think there is a possibility I receive them today ?

Leto
03-19-2020, 05:34 PM
Btw I just bought my coordinates. Do you think there is a possibility I receive them today ?
You will get them either tonight or tomorrow morning.

Adamm
03-19-2020, 05:37 PM
Btw I just bought my coordinates. Do you think there is a possibility I receive them today ?

Either today or tomorrow, depends on Davidski and his time. When you got them PM me.

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 05:37 PM
You will get them either tonight or tomorrow morning.

alright thanks

Nassbean
03-19-2020, 05:38 PM
Either today or tomorrow, depends on Davidski and his time. When you got them PM me.

yes no problem