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Gaditanian
03-21-2020, 01:14 PM
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French revolutionists condemned King Louis XVI to death on 21. January 1793 by means of the guillotine at the Place de la Revolution in Paris (roughly where the Obelisk decorating the Place de la Concorde stands today).

After a short but defiant speech he lost his head as the crowd rushed to the scaffold to dip hankerchiefs into his blood as momentos. An ornate gourd decorated with French Revolution themes was recently uncovered which had contained a blood soaked hankerchief dating to this time.

The gourd was allegedly a gift to Napoleon Bonaparte who became First Consul of France in 1799 and Emperor in 1804. An anonymous Italian family was in its posession since possibly the late 1800s and came forward with the relic.

It bears an inscription that Maximilien Bourdaloue on 21. January dipped his hankerchief in the blood of the king. Dried blood was scraped out and this is the same DNA we present in this DNA spotlight! The sample contains unsually high and rare markers for the Y-DNA haplogroup G2a.


Louis XVI's direct male line ancestor Henri IV was famous for enacting the Edict of Nantes which guaranteed religious liberties to Protestants ending 30 years of fighting between French Protestants and Catholics - he was assassinated in 1610 by a French Catholic zealot.

The remains had been presumed lost in the chaos of the French Revolution after a mob of revolutionaries desecrated the graves of French kings in the royal chapel of Saint-Denis in Paris in 1793.

However, the head was passed down over the centuries by secretive private collectors and positively identifed in 2010 with a radiocarbon date between 1450 and 1650. The features were consistent with the king's face including a dark mushroom-like lesion near the right nostrial, a healed facial stab wound and a pierced right earlobe.

The hair color and moustache and beard on the mummified head fit the appearance of the king at the time of his death as well as matched his portraits. Furthermore cutting wounds were visible corresponding to the separation of the head from the body in 1793 and digital facial reconstruction of the skull matched the plaster mould of his face made just after his death in 1610. The DNA was then tested and compared to the blood from the gourd.

DNA analysis comparing the dried head of Henri IV and the blood of Louis XVI show they were both G2a haplogroups and that with 95 percent confidence they were 246 times more likely than not to be related.

Louis XVII, the 10 year old son of Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette died from illness or poisoning in prison and his heart was kept in a crystal vase in the Cathedral Basilica of St. Denis - as of today only the female haplogroup analysis has been done to the heart proving his maternal link.

Three living direct male-line descendants of Henri IV and Louis XVI had their DNA analyzed to determine their Y-DNA haplogroups. They were all determined to have the Y haplogroup R1b1b2a1a1b (R-Z381). Two of these men draw their male line back to Louis, the Duke of Burgundy (1682-1712), the great grandfather of Louis XVI. The third descended from Louis XIII (1601-1643) who was Henri IV's son.

However this contradicts the haplogroup G2a shared by both the mummified head of Henri IV and the blood of Louis XVI. This has created quite a mystery as there is a large set of physical evidence confirming the head was indeed Henri IV's head which also matched the blood of Louis XVI.

Some simply claim the mummifed head and blood sample cannot be those of Henri IV and Louis XVI because the haplogroups don't match despite the vast physical evidence supporting the mummified head was indeed Henri IV.

Others point to infidelity at the French court which some believe was fairly rampant. A nonpaternity event at key points in the royal lineage would explain why there was no Y-DNA match between the living members of the House of Bourbon and the head and blood samples.

A third theory is that both relics were contaminated during the chaos of the French Revolution or later as they were passed from collect to collector. It seems this mystery could be finally resolved if Louis XVII's heart could be re-tested with today's technology - either it should reveal a Y haplogroup of G2a or R-Z381. Unfortunately the heart was removed from the crystal vase and buried alongside the bodies of Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette in June 2004.

Kyp
03-21-2020, 01:17 PM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Genetic Distance: 26.002
Sample Match! 54% closer than other users

Thracian
03-21-2020, 01:34 PM
https://i.ibb.co/12Mhn1M/FKLXVI.png

RandomGuy20
03-21-2020, 02:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1WWLYjD.png

No match :(

JamesBond007
03-21-2020, 02:05 PM
I can do better than that. I don't match him because everyone after the Merovingian kings were puppets of the Vatican and Augustine or of the whore of Rome. The last true kings and nobles of France were the Merovingians :




The Merovingian realm was the largest and most powerful western European state following the fall of the Western Roman Empire. The first Merovingian king was Childeric I who died in 481 AD, followed by his son Clovis I who converted to Christianity, united the Franks and conquered all of Gaul except Burgundy and all of Germania except Saxony. Typically there was a mix of people and culture found in the Merovingian society such that Gallo-Roman populations would be integrated with the Germanic populations, and Frankish or Alemannic goods are artifacts would be mixed with Roman or Byzantine items. Richly furnished graves of nobility known as Adelsgrablege demonstrated how the kinship structure and family status would include not just immediate family, but also those in their immediate retinue. It is also worth noting that Niederstotzingen was an important land route near the crossroad of two former Roman highways.

Merovingian Noble

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1

Genetic Distance: 11.389
Sample Match! 86% closer than other users

Merovingian Lord

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1

Genetic Distance: 12.703
Sample Match! 87% closer than other users

Merovingian Noble

mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1

Genetic Distance: 8.3683
Sample Match! 88% closer than other users

Young Merovingian Noble

mtDNA Haplogroup: H65a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b

Genetic Distance: 4.7311
Sample Match! 98% closer than other users

paradox
03-21-2020, 02:26 PM
Relic French King Louis XVI LXVI (1793 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Genetic Distance: 24.284
Sample Match! 68% closer than other users


My father's

Relic French King Louis XVI LXVI (1793 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Deep Dive Match! (New sample - try later to compare to other users)

Genetic Distance: 19.695
Sample Match! 86% closer than other users

mitalit
03-21-2020, 02:37 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/97341f3f90a4b017023055e6c1df58e5.jpg

Benyzero
03-21-2020, 02:43 PM
no match

PAGANE
03-21-2020, 02:46 PM
Genetic Distance: 23.039
Sample Match! 76% closer than other users

PT Tagus
03-21-2020, 11:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hPfof9r.png

Ethel
03-21-2020, 11:36 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/667098601671098390/691067572312997960/unknown.png

Rĉdwald
03-22-2020, 12:16 AM
No match

gixajo
03-22-2020, 12:47 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

(You do not match this sample)

Helen
03-22-2020, 12:59 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/aa8ae72d5601c2eeaeb5ac64ccaf09f6.jpg

Vojnik
03-22-2020, 01:00 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI


mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b

Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a


Genetic Distance: 20.494
Sample Match! 84% closer than other users

Dick
03-22-2020, 01:13 AM
Not a match

Celestia
03-22-2020, 01:46 AM
I don't get a match and neither does my mother

JohnnyP
03-22-2020, 02:14 AM
https://i.imgur.com/rJ9esfY.jpg

bained
03-22-2020, 04:16 AM
Genetic Distance: 19.317
Sample Match! 87% closer than other users

Saint-Glinglin
03-22-2020, 10:57 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Genetic Distance: 16.200
Sample Match! 92% closer than other users

Closer than Marat, but not than revolutionary Le Mans people.

gixajo
03-22-2020, 12:10 PM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Genetic Distance: 16.200
Sample Match! 92% closer than other users

Closer than Marat, but not than revolutionary Le Mans people.

Et qui est ce que vous preferez?

Ritz06
03-22-2020, 04:02 PM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Genetic Distance: 24.742
Sample Match! 65% closer than other users

Ylla
03-22-2020, 05:20 PM
Genetic Distance: 17.359
Sample Match! 90% closer than other users

Vojnik
03-23-2020, 05:37 AM
Interesting how Balkanites are getting this, but not north west euros.

nittionia
03-23-2020, 05:40 AM
None of my family or I match


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Cumansky
03-23-2020, 05:51 AM
No

Mortimer
03-23-2020, 06:27 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Genetic Distance: 26.570
Sample Match! 48% closer than other users

Saint-Glinglin
03-23-2020, 07:58 PM
Et qui est ce que vous preferez?

Les gens du Mans parce qu'on ne sait pas de quel camp ils étaient.

Louis XVI et Marat ont eu chacun ce qu'ils méritaient.

someonenotyou
03-24-2020, 05:55 AM
No match.

I do match Jean-Paul Marat and two Le Mans.

**JC**
03-24-2020, 07:49 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI
LXVI (1793 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

(You do not match this sample)

LOL!
No.

I'm of Merovingian Noble stock, not this poser!

Merovingian Noble
NS12b (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 11.772
Sample Match! 84% closer than other users

Merovingian Lord
NS9 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 14.630
Sample Match! 74% closer than other users

Merovingian Noble
NS1 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1
Genetic Distance: 9.1974
Sample Match! 83% closer than other users

Young Merovingian Noble
NS6 (605 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H65a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b
Genetic Distance: 8.0999
Sample Match! 79% closer than other users

Gaditanian
03-24-2020, 11:22 AM
I'm of Merovingian Noble stock, not this poser!




https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1460643277961298921/9113BB78B1D6379452551938E9650D06B1AB27D0/

Paulette1966
04-06-2020, 05:55 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Deep Dive Match! 25% closer than others who share this deep dive sample


Merovingian Noble

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1

Genetic Distance: 11.792
Sample Match! 83% closer than other users
Merovingian Lord

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2b4
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1

Genetic Distance: 14.361
Sample Match! 76% closer than other users
Merovingian Noble

mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1

Deep Dive Match! 80% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 8.4348
Sample Match! 87% closer than other users
Young Merovingian Noble

mtDNA Haplogroup: H65a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b

Genetic Distance: 7.4793
Sample Match! 85% closer than other users
Merovingian Noble

mtDNA Haplogroup: K1a
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a2a1a1c2b2b1a1

Genetic Distance: 14.832
Sample Match! 82% closer than other users

Hawkguy
05-06-2020, 06:25 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a

Genetic Distance: 20.22
Sample Match! 85% closer than other users

Armatus
06-04-2020, 09:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3KvhgYrh.png

I should think about claiming the throne of France.

Gaditanian
06-05-2020, 12:46 PM
I should think about claiming the throne of France.

https://i.imgur.com/s9bPVaK.gif?2

Gallop
06-05-2020, 01:52 PM
Relic French King Louis XVI
LXVI (1793 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a (P15/PF3112)

Genetic Distance: 17.271
Sample Match! 91% closer than other users

Samnium
06-05-2020, 02:39 PM
Where did Louis XVI plot ?

paradox
06-08-2020, 05:45 AM
Where did Louis XVI plot ?Relic French King Louis XVI

Modern
1. North_Italian (9.063)
2. Portuguese (11.20)
3. Spanish_Galicia (11.39)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (12.22)
5. Tuscan (12.52)
6. Spanish_Murcia (12.79)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (12.96)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.55)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/52889de69c194ff42019146070e0f66d.jpg

Ancient
Roman + Illyrian (5.65)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.713)
Illyrian (6.722)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.854)
Roman Hispania + Thracian (7.247)
Thracian + Illyrian (7.658)
Roman (9.879)
Gallo-Roman (11.9)
Roman Hispania (12.06)
Thracian (12.8)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/cbed0809f9b068011839c10aa5e65ace.jpg

Chaos One
06-08-2020, 06:05 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b
Y-DNA Haplogroup: G2a (P15/PF3112)

Genetic Distance: 23.215
Sample Match! 75% closer than other users

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That moment which a non-white guy has it...lol

dududud
06-08-2020, 10:13 AM
Relic French King Louis XVI

Modern
1. North_Italian (9.063)
2. Portuguese (11.20)
3. Spanish_Galicia (11.39)
4. Spanish_Extremadura (12.22)
5. Tuscan (12.52)
6. Spanish_Murcia (12.79)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (12.96)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.55)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/52889de69c194ff42019146070e0f66d.jpg

Ancient
Roman + Illyrian (5.65)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.713)
Illyrian (6.722)
Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.854)
Roman Hispania + Thracian (7.247)
Thracian + Illyrian (7.658)
Roman (9.879)
Gallo-Roman (11.9)
Roman Hispania (12.06)
Thracian (12.8)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/cbed0809f9b068011839c10aa5e65ace.jpg

Fake? Where do you find his sample?

paradox
06-08-2020, 10:25 AM
Fake? Where do you find his sample?My dad apparently is a deep dive match so he was given access to extra information about the sample.

alfred.f.krupa
02-09-2023, 07:15 AM
117274
117275
117276
117277117278
117279

My father is a deep-dive match to this sample, meaning sharing actual DNA chains.
89% closer than other users of MyTrueAncestry.com, sharing common DNA segments at the Chr. 3, 12 and 18

Interestingly enough, my father is an excellent match to Dark Ages Metz Sablon France 470 AD (Top 98 % match) and Frankish Grave Lower Saxony Hannover-Anderten Germany 400 AD (Top 96% match)