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Leto
03-21-2020, 06:52 PM
The thread opened at the request of another user

From Šabac, Western Serbia

K13

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.43
2 North_Atlantic 23.76
3 West_Med 15.57
4 East_Med 11.37
5 West_Asian 9.6
6 Red_Sea 1.69
7 East_Asian 1.17
8 South_Asian 0.27
9 Siberian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.5
2 Croatian 4.14
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.92
4 Hungarian 9.39
5 Serbian 9.4
6 Ukrainian 10
7 South_Polish 10.32
8 Romanian 12.27
9 Southwest_Russian 13.08
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.15
11 Polish 13.34
12 Austrian 13.54
13 East_German 13.54
14 Bulgarian 13.74
15 Russian_Smolensk 14.88
16 Estonian_Polish 15.49
17 Belorussian 16.27
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.47
19 Erzya 18.62
20 Tatar 20.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.2% Ukrainian + 24.8% Central_Greek @ 2.6
2 58.3% Ukrainian + 41.7% Bulgarian @ 2.61
3 81.9% Ukrainian + 18.1% Cyprian @ 2.68
4 52.1% Bulgarian + 47.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.7
5 60% Bulgarian + 40% Lithuanian @ 2.75
6 61.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.6% Bulgarian @ 2.81
7 76.1% Ukrainian + 23.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.85
8 70% Ukrainian + 30% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.87
9 77.9% Ukrainian + 22.1% South_Italian @ 2.91
10 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.02
11 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.05
12 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.09
13 90.4% Moldavian + 9.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.11
14 92.6% Moldavian + 7.4% Lithuanian @ 3.11
15 90.1% Moldavian + 9.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.11
16 91% Moldavian + 9% Belorussian @ 3.12
17 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Ukrainian @ 3.13
18 77.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.2% Central_Greek @ 3.13
19 51.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.8% Bulgarian @ 3.14
20 72.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.17


K15

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.61
2 North_Sea 22.27
3 Eastern_Euro 14.95
4 West_Med 12.14
5 East_Med 8.73
6 West_Asian 8.09
7 Atlantic 7.89
8 Red_Sea 1.16
9 Southeast_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.87
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.12
3 Croatian 9.54
4 Hungarian 9.96
5 Ukrainian 9.98
6 South_Polish 11.38
7 Serbian 12.48
8 Romanian 13.47
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.98
10 Polish 14.25
11 Southwest_Russian 14.54
12 Austrian 14.79
13 East_German 14.91
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.02
15 Bulgarian 15.48
16 Belorussian 16.31
17 Estonian_Polish 16.61
18 Estonian 17.35
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.61
20 Finnish 17.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.92
2 71.3% Ukrainian + 28.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.92
3 85.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.3% Cyprian @ 6.23
4 83.7% Ukrainian + 16.3% Cyprian @ 6.28
5 85% Ukrainian + 15% Armenian @ 6.31
6 87.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.32
7 85.7% Ukrainian + 14.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.33
8 85.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.35
9 87.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.6% Samaritan @ 6.38
10 87% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13% Armenian @ 6.38
11 85.1% Ukrainian + 14.9% Assyrian @ 6.39
12 85.5% Ukrainian + 14.5% Samaritan @ 6.4
13 80.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 19.4% Central_Greek @ 6.4
14 85.9% Ukrainian + 14.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.42
15 87.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.9% Assyrian @ 6.44
16 83.3% Ukrainian + 16.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.44
17 87.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.44
18 78% Ukrainian + 22% Central_Greek @ 6.45
19 80.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 19.6% Ashkenazi @ 6.5
20 74.6% Moldavian + 25.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.51


K12b

# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.96
2 Atlantic_Med 26.34
3 Caucasus 18.64
4 Gedrosia 5.14
5 Southwest_Asian 4
6 Northwest_African 0.63
7 East_Asian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.21
2 German (Dodecad) 10.85
3 Romanians (Behar) 12.43
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.29
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.69
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 16.85
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 17.94
8 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 19
9 Polish (Dodecad) 19.03
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 20.23
11 French (Dodecad) 20.52
12 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.54
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.63
14 English (Dodecad) 20.76
15 French (HGDP) 20.87
16 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 21.03
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 21.31
18 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.69
19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.76
20 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 23.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 1.09
2 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.11
3 93.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.9% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 1.16
4 93.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 1.18
5 93.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 1.19
6 93.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 1.19
7 93% Hungarians (Behar) + 7% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.21
8 93.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 1.21
9 92.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.22
10 92.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.27
11 92.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.28
12 93.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 6.7% Armenians (Behar) @ 1.35
13 91.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 8.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.38
14 91.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 8.3% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.39
15 92% Hungarians (Behar) + 8% Turks (Behar) @ 1.45
16 90% Hungarians (Behar) + 10% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.45
17 90.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.51
18 90% Hungarians (Behar) + 10% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.53
19 90% Hungarians (Behar) + 10% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.55
20 92.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.2% Syrians (Behar) @ 1.56


K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.69 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.75 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 13.26 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 18.29 Pct
East_Med 3.53 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.29 Pct
Fennoscandian 9.17 Pct
French 4.19 Pct
Iberian 3.37 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 11.10 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.88 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 2.78 Pct
North_Sea 11.46 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.60 Pct
West_Med 3.61 Pct


punt K15

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 54.92
2 Mediterranean 26.34
3 Caucasian 12.05
4 SW_Asian 4.96
5 Horn_Of_Africa 1.27
6 E_Asian 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 1.96
2 Austrian 2.25
3 Slovenian 2.51
4 Croatian 2.72
5 Irish 4.47
6 Orcadian 5.3
7 North_German 5.64
8 English 5.97
9 Scottish 6.75
10 Utahn_White 6.79
11 South_German 7.02
12 Norwegian 7.19
13 Serbian 7.84
14 Swedish 8.46
15 French 10.04
16 Polish 10.57
17 Bosnian 11.71
18 Macedonian 13.74
19 Romanian 15.26
20 Bulgarian 15.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.5% Lithuanian + 42.5% Tuscan @ 0.89
2 56% Lithuanian + 44% Albanian @ 1.15
3 82.9% Polish + 17.1% Cypriot @ 1.23
4 53% Montenegrin + 47% Lithuanian @ 1.37
5 96.5% Austrian + 3.5% Lezgin @ 1.44
6 97.1% Slovenian + 2.9% Saudi @ 1.44
7 56.7% Romanian + 43.3% Lithuanian @ 1.44
8 96.6% Austrian + 3.4% Balkar @ 1.45
9 96.3% Austrian + 3.7% Chechen @ 1.46
10 96.6% Austrian + 3.4% Kumyk @ 1.46
11 96.8% Austrian + 3.2% North_Ossetian @ 1.47
12 96.6% Slovenian + 3.4% Bedouin_A @ 1.5
13 97.4% Austrian + 2.6% Abkhasian @ 1.54
14 83.7% Polish + 16.3% Samaritian @ 1.54
15 97.1% Austrian + 2.9% Iranian @ 1.55
16 62.6% Belarusian + 37.4% Tuscan @ 1.58
17 97.6% Austrian + 2.4% Georgian @ 1.58
18 55.7% Bulgarian + 44.3% Lithuanian @ 1.58
19 71.8% Polish + 28.2% Greek_Central @ 1.58
20 97% Austrian + 3% Turk_Istanbul @ 1.58

Bosniensis
03-21-2020, 06:53 PM
uuu that's some eastern European ffs

Jana
03-21-2020, 06:58 PM
And how do you know this person doesn't have Slovak or Rusyn ancestry for example? Plenty of them in Vojvodina.
Closer to western Ukrainians than to Croats on K15 (or to Ukrainians and southern Poles than to Serbs), very typical Serb indeed.

Cumansky
03-21-2020, 07:00 PM
South Polish with extra Semitic/West Asian

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 07:01 PM
And how do you know this person doesn't have Slovak or Rusyn ancestry for example? Plenty of them in Vojvodina.
Closer to western Ukrainians than to Croats on K15 (or to Ukrainians and southern Poles than to Serbs), very typical Serb indeed.

Šabac is like 99% Serbian with few Gypsies.

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:01 PM
Šabac is like 99% Serbian with few Gypsies.

Kit came from Pribislav, and I soon expect 40% Baltic Serbs to be posted on regular basis.

Leto
03-21-2020, 07:04 PM
And how do you know this person doesn't have Slovak or Rusyn ancestry for example? Plenty of them in Vojvodina.
Closer to western Ukrainians than to Croats on K15 (or to Ukrainians and southern Poles than to Serbs), very typical Serb indeed.
You'll never guess who that user may be :swl

Nah, they are just endogamous Serbs who don't wanna mix with Woggistanis in order to preserve their early Slavic heritage :coffee:

Cumansky
03-21-2020, 07:05 PM
You'll never guess who that user may be :swl

Nah, they are just endogamous Serbs who don't wanna mix with Woggistanis in order to preserve their early Slavic heritage :coffee:

Lol.

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:05 PM
You'll never guess who that user may be :swl

Nah, they are just endogamous Serbs who don't wanna mix with Woggistanis in order to preserve their early Slavic heritage :coffee:

He showed me the same kit before you, so I already know. And give us proof this person is full Serb. Doesn't look like it at all lmao.

andre
03-21-2020, 07:08 PM
A serb with 70-75% slavic blood, wow.

Cumansky
03-21-2020, 07:10 PM
A serb with 70-75% slavic blood, wow.

Eurogenes K13 will not tell you if someone speaks Slavic languages

Slavic is linguistic/cultural not genetic

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 07:12 PM
Kit came from Pribislav, and I soon expect 40% Baltic Serbs to be posted on regular basis.

I highly doubt there is someone on Balkan with 40% Baltic (except Slovaks who rarely mixed with Serbs or any other ethnic group in Vojvodina). But I dont get what is so strange if someone has few percent more than average (no matter which nation). :dunno:

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:13 PM
I highly doubt there is someone on Balkan with 40% Baltic (except Slovaks who rarely mixed with Serbs or any other ethnic group in Vojvodina). But I dont get what is so strange if someone has few percent more than average (no matter which nation). :dunno:

He is extremely atypical, most northern shifted Serb posted so far. This person is closer to proper Ukrainians (not west Ukrainians) than to Serb average on K15.
But don't worry, soon even more Slavic Serbs will pop out, maybe they break 40% line.

Lets wait for Serb who plots in southern Russia.

Cumansky
03-21-2020, 07:16 PM
He is extremely atypical, most northern shifted Serb posted so far. This person is closer to proper Ukrainians (not west Ukrainians) than to Serb average on K15.
But don't worry, soon even more Slavic Serbs will pop out, maybe they break 40% line.

Eurogenes K13 will not tell you if someone speaks Slavic languages

Slavic is linguistic/cultural not genetic

Dorian
03-21-2020, 07:17 PM
Lmao imagine how much more distant croatian would be without kajkavian ,chakavian and western admixtures from austro-hungarian empire.

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 07:17 PM
He showed me the same kit before you, so I already know. And give us proof this person is full Serb. Doesn't look like it at all lmao.

May I ask you how Serbs look like, some example. If you think he is atypical (perhaps) because of pale skin and/or light eyes (havent seen picture but guessing) believe it or no but there are Serbs like that. :)

vbnetkhio
03-21-2020, 07:18 PM
I highly doubt there is someone on Balkan with 40% Baltic (except Slovaks who rarely mixed with Serbs or any other ethnic group in Vojvodina). But I dont get what is so strange if someone has few percent more than average (no matter which nation). :dunno:

There is a Slovenian with 39% and a Chakavian Croat with 40

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:19 PM
May I ask you how Serbs look like, some example. If you think he is atypical (perhaps) because of pale skin and/or light eyes (havent seen picture but guessing) believe it or no but there are Serbs like that. :)

Genetically I mean.


There is a Slovenian with 39% and a Chakavian Croat with 40

Yeah, and you have no ide if this Croat has recent foreign ancestry or not. I have never seen such Croat before, especially not in Dalmatia.

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 07:20 PM
There is a Slovenian with 39% and a Chakavian Croat with 40

I dont count Slovenians as Balkan people. xD

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:21 PM
I am getting sick with people posting extreme outliers (either Serb or Croat) with unknown ancestry they found on gedmatch and who could be anything, and pretending they are something normal.

Pribislav
03-21-2020, 07:23 PM
He showed me the same kit before you, so I already know. And give us proof this person is full Serb. Doesn't look like it at all lmao.

Full Serb. Father from Kopaonik area, mother from Jadar.

I will pm you about details. I don't have permission to say more publically except this.

vbnetkhio
03-21-2020, 07:23 PM
I am getting sick with people posting extreme outliers (either Serb or Croat) with unknown ancestry they found on gedmatch and who could be anything, and pretending they are something normal.

why would i post average results? everybody already know what those are like, no new information

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:29 PM
Just saying you can't know what are kits on gedmatch unless you speak to people in person trough mail or similar.

Dušan
03-21-2020, 07:31 PM
I am getting sick with people posting extreme outliers (either Serb or Croat) with unknown ancestry they found on gedmatch and who could be anything, and pretending they are something normal.

What is уour problem with Serbian topics?
We are not same nation, we do not live in same country. This is not your damn business.
Now fuck off from Serbian topics.

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 07:33 PM
I am getting sick with people posting extreme outliers (either Serb or Croat) with unknown ancestry they found on gedmatch and who could be anything, and pretending they are something normal.

I can't understand why would anyone do that, I mean is it really important is someone 28% Baltic or 36%, what is exact impact on someone's life? When I came to this forum I thought phenotypes and dna are interesting science obviously some people consider it as something much more serious. :)

Pribislav
03-21-2020, 07:35 PM
Full Serb. Father from Kopaonik area, mother from Jadar.

I will pm you about details. I don't have permission to say more publically except this.

He live in Šabac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šabac

Origin of his father https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopaonik

Origin of his mother https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadar_(Serbia)

Leto
03-21-2020, 07:36 PM
There is a Slovenian with 39% and a Chakavian Croat with 40
I saw an academic Slovene who cracked the 40 percent mark.

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:37 PM
What is уour problem with Serbian topics?
We are not same nation, we do not live in same country. This is not your damn business.
Now fuck off from Serbian topics.

Fuck off imbecile, and damn well we are not the same nation. Stop being OWD and posting Serbs who are far more Slavic than is your swarthy Vlach reality.
I am bothered with fake Serbs you post who are closer to Croats.

Be proud of your Balkan look and genetics.

Aldaris
03-21-2020, 07:38 PM
I dont count Slovenians as Balkan people. xD

You sure you're not confusing Slovaks and Slovenes? Since this stuff, and:


I highly doubt there is someone on Balkan with 40% Baltic (except Slovaks who rarely mixed with Serbs or any other ethnic group in Vojvodina).

Or are you sticking with some weird conception noone else gets?

Dušan
03-21-2020, 07:39 PM
Fuck off imbecile, and damn well we are not the same nation. Stop being OWD and posting Serbs who are far more Slavic than is your swarthy Vlach reality.
I am bothered with fake Serbs you post who are closer to Croats.

Be proud of your Balkan look and genetics.

Fuck off from Serbian topics.

Nedojebana ustaška kučka, worse than corronavirus.

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:39 PM
I can't understand why would anyone do that, I mean is it really important is someone 28% Baltic or 36%, what is exact impact on someone's life? When I came to this forum I thought phenotypes and dna are interesting science obviously some people consider it as something much more serious. :)

Yes, it's important, Pribislav, vbnetkio and others are literally obsessed with Baltic score and posting people with highest Baltic they can find while completely ignoring all other components.
It's a form of OWD.

Pribislav
03-21-2020, 07:40 PM
Fuck off imbecile, and damn well we are not the same nation. Stop being OWD and posting Serbs who are far more Slavic than is your swarthy Vlach reality.
I am bothered with fake Serbs you post who are closer to Croats.

Be proud of your Balkan look and genetics.

This guy has 0% connection with Croatians and Croatia (in geographical origin). I can give you his fecabook to talk with him. He look like average Serb btw.

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:41 PM
Fuck off from Serbian topics.

Nedojebana ustaška kučka, worse than corronavirus.

Ljigavi prištavče, je li ti i kita prištava kao lice? Daj se ne izdrkavaj ovdje jer se nitko ne želi ševiti sa ljepotanom kao što si ti.

Dušan
03-21-2020, 07:42 PM
Ljigavi prištavče, je li ti i kita prištava kao lice? Daj se ne izdrkavaj ovdje jer se nitko ne želi ševiti sa ljepotanom kao što si ti.

Imaš višak muških hormona, kurvetino hrvatska prokleta.
Više ličiš na zakržljalog dečkića nego na žensku osobu.

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:43 PM
This guy has 0% connection with Croatians and Croatia (in geographical origin). I can give you his fecabook to talk with him. He look like average Serb btw.

Never mentioned his connection with Croatia, but possible Slovak or Rusyn admixture as a guess based on his genetics.

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:44 PM
Imaš višak muških hormona, kurvetino hrvatska prokleta.
Više ličiš na zakržljalog dečkića nego na žensku osobu.

Nakazan si i ne bi te štapom takla. Crta.

vbnetkhio
03-21-2020, 07:45 PM
Just saying you can't know what are kits on gedmatch unless you speak to people in person trough mail or similar.

all kits i post have some confirmation.

that person with 40% is deceased, her daughter runs the profile.

this is her tree:
https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/5441306231540125989

one side is Dalmatian Croats, the other is mostly locked, but you can see her father was Dracic(changed to Dragic) and her mother was Skomerza, both from Crikvenica

if Slovenians get 40% Baltic, why would Croats who live a couple of miles away get it too? if tuzla Bosniaks get 36% Baltic, why wouldn't Šabac Serbs get it too?

Pribislav
03-21-2020, 07:45 PM
Never mentioned his connection with Croatia, but possible Slovak or Rusyn admixture as a guess based on his genetics.

He confirmed me full Serbian origin, until he know in the past.

His parents are not from Vojvodina.

Maintenance
03-21-2020, 07:49 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/55/09/78/5509785be92b9823da16a6f50a19490d.gif

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 07:49 PM
You sure you're not confusing Slovaks and Slovenes? Since this stuff, and:



Or are you sticking with some weird conception noone else gets?


What is weird, vbnetkhio said there is some Slovenian (so someone from Republic of Slovenia) with 39% Baltic and I said I dont count them as Balkan people (Serbia, Croatia, BiH,Macedonia,Albania, Greece, Bulgaria and one part of Romania, that is what I consider Balkan). Before that I said I doubt that Balkan people can have 40% Baltic except Slovaks who came to Vojvodina (Northern Serbia) in 18th century but they rarely mix with other ethic groups (I live in city where 1/3 are Slovaks and I know only few marriages between Serbs and Slovaks). Is it bit more clear now? :)

Jana
03-21-2020, 07:49 PM
all kits i post have some confirmation.

that person with 40% is deceased, her daughter runs the profile.

this is her tree:
https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/5441306231540125989

one side is Dalmatian Croats, the other is mostly locked, but you can see her father was Dracic(changed to Dragic) and her mother was Skomerza, both from Crikvenica

if Slovenians get 40% Baltic, why would Croats who live a couple of miles away get it too? if tuzla Bosniaks get 36% Baltic, why wouldn't Šabac Serbs get it too?

Meh, whatever. Outliers like that in any nation are very weird. Hard to believe such people exist.

Leto
03-21-2020, 07:50 PM
I won't post any more shit at the request of P. :no:

Leto
03-21-2020, 07:53 PM
What is weird, vbnetkhio said there is some Slovenian (so someone from Republic of Slovenia) with 39% Baltic and I said I dont count them as Balkan people (Serbia, Croatia, BiH,Macedonia,Albania, Greece, Bulgaria and one part of Romania, that is what I consider Balkan). Before that I said I doubt that Balkan people can have 40% Baltic except Slovaks who came to Vojvodina (Northern Serbian) in 18th century but they rarely mix with other ethic groups (I live in city where 1/3 are Slovaks and I know only few marriages between Serbs and Slovaks). Is it bit more clear now? :)
No, Slovenia is not a Balkan country.

Why do they not mix in your city? That's interesting. I can easily understand if it's a starkly different racial or religious minority but Serbs and Slovaks (or Hungarians for that matter)...

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 08:08 PM
No, Slovenia is not a Balkan country.

Why do they not mix in your city? That's interesting. I can easily understand if it's a starkly different racial or religious minority but Serbs and Slovaks (or Hungarians for that matter)...

Idk to be honest, they are somehow special, they listen their music, have their bars (where Serbs rarely going), marrying each other, etc... We are not in big love overall :D,even my best friend who is one of rare with half/half parents dont really like them. There are exceptions ofc but usually they are trying to distance from us. My ex GF was Slovak who broke up with me because her parents were against just because I am Serb (we had nice 1,5 year relationship without any conflicts) but wish of her parents were stronger than her love obviously. :lol00002::lol00002:

Aldaris
03-21-2020, 08:10 PM
What is weird, vbnetkhio said there is some Slovenian (so someone from Republic of Slovenia) with 39% Baltic and I said I dont count them as Balkan people (Serbia, Croatia, BiH,Macedonia,Albania, Greece, Bulgaria and one part of Romania, that is what I consider Balkan). Before that I said I doubt that Balkan people can have 40% Baltic except Slovaks who came to Vojvodina (Northern Serbia) in 18th century but they rarely mix with other ethic groups (I live in city where 1/3 are Slovaks and I know only few marriages between Serbs and Slovaks). Is it bit more clear now? :)

I take the blame then. :laugh: But man, word it better next time.

Leto
03-21-2020, 08:12 PM
Idk to be honest, they are somehow special, they listen their music, have their bars (where Serbs rarely going), marrying each other, etc... We are not in big love overall :D,even my best friend who is one of rare with half/half parents dont really like them. There are exceptions ofc but usually they are trying to distance from us. My ex GF was Slovak who broke up with me because her parents were against just because I am Serb (we had nice 1,5 year relationship without any conflicts) but wish of her parents were stronger than her love obviously. :lol00002::lol00002:
Lol.
Are they visibly different in terms of looks?

Dušan
03-21-2020, 08:18 PM
Idk to be honest, they are somehow special, they listen their music, have their bars (where Serbs rarely going), marrying each other, etc... We are not in big love overall :D,even my best friend who is one of rare with half/half parents dont really like them. There are exceptions ofc but usually they are trying to distance from us. My ex GF was Slovak who broke up with me because her parents were against just because I am Serb (we had nice 1,5 year relationship without any conflicts) but wish of her parents were stronger than her love obviously. :lol00002::lol00002:

They could leave Serbia and go to Slovakia, if they dont like our people.

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 08:20 PM
Lol.
Are they visibly different in terms of looks?

Well, Vojvodina is generally lighter and more ,,Slavic looking" than rest of Serbia but yeah, they are usually slighly lighter on average (Vojvodina average) with more Baltid and Gorid types and if we speak about rest of Serbia than difference is definitely more visible. :)

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 08:25 PM
They could leave Serbia and go to Slovakia, if they dont like our people.

They are leaving, a lot of young Slovaks went to Slovakia to study in last few years (I am sure they will stay there), some of them will stay but they are minority (those who have 1 Serbian parent or simply feel like Serbs). :)

Dušan
03-21-2020, 08:27 PM
They are leaving, a lot of young Slovaks went in Slovakia to study in last few years (I am sure they will stay there), some of them will stay but they are minority (those who have 1 Serbian parent or simply feel like Serbs). :)

Who love and respect Serbs is welcomed. Who don't - have a nice trip to motherlands.

Pribislav
03-21-2020, 09:34 PM
Yes, it's important, Pribislav, vbnetkio and others are literally obsessed with Baltic score and posting people with highest Baltic they can find while completely ignoring all other components.
It's a form of OWD.

There is no any obssesion from our side. Vbnethkio discovered 35% Baltic Serbs, and this is an new moment because earlier we never seen such Serbs.

2 years ago or something on Poreklo I heard from someone that he saw some Serbs with 45% North_European on K12b, but he did not post their results. I was forgot about that until vbnetkhio found such examples, and later I got some similar samples.

Pribislav
03-21-2020, 09:57 PM
Kit came from Pribislav, and I soon expect 40% Baltic Serbs to be posted on regular basis.

There is no such Serbs with full Serbian ancestry. Serbs with Russian, Ukrainian, Slovak etc. admixture are rare and their potential results means nothing for understanding Serbian genetic.

I bealive this guy has maximum possible Baltic score for full Serb.

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 10:01 PM
There is no any obssesion from our side. Vbnethkio discovered 35% Baltic Serbs, and this is an new moment because earlier we never seen such Serbs.

2 years ago or something on Poreklo I heard from someone that he saw some Serbs with 45% North_European on K12b, but he did not post their results. I was forgot about that until vbnetkhio found such examples, and later I got some similar samples.

Vidim da je North Atlantic zastupljen u dobroj meri kod Balkanaca a s' obzirom da sam težak početnik u ovome, zanima me šta tačno to predstavlja, zapadnoevropsku mešavinu?

Token
03-21-2020, 10:15 PM
This guy is certainly not fully Serb.

Pribislav
03-21-2020, 10:15 PM
Vidim da je North Atlantic zastupljen u dobroj meri kod Balkanaca a s' obzirom da sam težak početnik u ovome, zanima me šta tačno to predstavlja, zapadnoevropsku mešavinu?

Kod slovenskih naroda North Atlantic u proseku je prilično ujednačen, npr. i kod Srba i kod Ukrajinaca je oko 25%. Ako neko recimo ima 28-29% msm da taj ima pojačan kelto-germanski genetski upliv, koji je nije novijeg datuma naravno nego od srednjeg veka ili od antike.
Kelta je bilo u Panoniji a neki su naselili današnji Niš kad su išli u pohod na Grčku. Germanska plemena su se muvala po Panoniji i Balkanu u doba seobe naroda, Gepidi su imali državu u Panoniji a Goti u dinarskom pojasu i Italiji. U 11-om v. su Normani iz južne Italije dolazili na Balkan, a od 1081 do 1085 su zavladali današnjom Albanijom, Epirom i došli do Skoplja i tu su poraženi od Vizantije. U 13-om v. su došli saski (saksonski) rudari u Srbiju (Brskovo, Novo Brdo, Rudnik, Kopaonik itd), Bosnu (Fojnica, Kreševo, Olovo, Srebrenica) i istočnu Makedoniju oko Kratova i Krive Palanke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepids#Kingdom_of_the_Gepids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrogothic_Kingdom

Terminator98
03-21-2020, 10:35 PM
Kod slovenskih naroda North Atlantic u proseku je prilično ujednačne, npr. i kod Srba i kod Ukrajinacaje oko 25%. Ako neko recimo ima 28-29% msm da taj ima pojačan kelto-germanski genetski upliv, koji je nije novijeg datuma naravno nego od srednjeg veka ili od antike.
Kelta je bilo u Panoniji a neki su naselili današnji Niš kad su išli u pohod na Grčku. Germanska plemena su se muvala po Panoniji i Balkanu u doba seobe naroda, Gepidi su imali državu u Panoniji a Goti u dinarskom pojasu i Italiji. U 11-om v. su Normani iz južne Italije dolazili na Balkan, a od 1081 do 1085 su zavladali današnjom Albanijom, Epirom i došli do Skoplja i tu su poraženi od Vizantije. U 13-om v. su došli saski (saksonski) rudari u Srbiju (Brskovo, Novo Brdo, Rudnik, Kopaonik itd), Bosnu (Fojnica, Kreševo, Olovo, Srebrenica) i istočnu Makedoniju oko Kratova i Krive Palanke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepids#Kingdom_of_the_Gepids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrogothic_Kingdom

Veoma detaljno objašnjeno, hvala. :thumb001:

Pribislav
03-22-2020, 06:05 PM
This guy is certainly not fully Serb.

There is a lot of Serbs who got no 1 Moldavian on K13 and K15.

Also, exist Serbs who are more northern shifted. They have lower Baltic, but higher North_Atlantic score.

Pribislav
03-22-2020, 07:35 PM
The thread opened at the request of another user

From Šabac, Western Serbia

K15

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.61
2 North_Sea 22.27
3 Eastern_Euro 14.95
4 West_Med 12.14
5 East_Med 8.73
6 West_Asian 8.09
7 Atlantic 7.89
8 Red_Sea 1.16
9 Southeast_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.87
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.12
3 Croatian 9.54
4 Hungarian 9.96
5 Ukrainian 9.98
6 South_Polish 11.38
7 Serbian 12.48
8 Romanian 13.47
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.98
10 Polish 14.25
11 Southwest_Russian 14.54
12 Austrian 14.79
13 East_German 14.91
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.02
15 Bulgarian 15.48
16 Belorussian 16.31
17 Estonian_Polish 16.61
18 Estonian 17.35
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.61
20 Finnish 17.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.92
2 71.3% Ukrainian + 28.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.92
3 85.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.3% Cyprian @ 6.23
4 83.7% Ukrainian + 16.3% Cyprian @ 6.28
5 85% Ukrainian + 15% Armenian @ 6.31
6 87.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.32
7 85.7% Ukrainian + 14.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.33
8 85.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.35
9 87.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.6% Samaritan @ 6.38
10 87% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13% Armenian @ 6.38
11 85.1% Ukrainian + 14.9% Assyrian @ 6.39
12 85.5% Ukrainian + 14.5% Samaritan @ 6.4
13 80.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 19.4% Central_Greek @ 6.4
14 85.9% Ukrainian + 14.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.42
15 87.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.9% Assyrian @ 6.44
16 83.3% Ukrainian + 16.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.44
17 87.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.44
18 78% Ukrainian + 22% Central_Greek @ 6.45
19 80.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 19.6% Ashkenazi @ 6.5
20 74.6% Moldavian + 25.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.51

https://i.imgur.com/Bod4jdE.png

Dick
03-22-2020, 07:44 PM
There is a lot of Serbs who got no 1 Moldavian on K13 and K15.

Also, exist Serbs who are more northern shifted. They have lower Baltic, but higher North_Atlantic score.

I like your new profile. Srbija do Tokija!

Jana
03-22-2020, 07:44 PM
I am sorry for insults said to Dušan. It was really distasteful, but I get mad too easily. I feel ashamed for what I wrote to him.

Ford
03-22-2020, 07:45 PM
Idk to be honest, they are somehow special, they listen their music, have their bars (where Serbs rarely going), marrying each other, etc... We are not in big love overall :D,even my best friend who is one of rare with half/half parents dont really like them. There are exceptions ofc but usually they are trying to distance from us. My ex GF was Slovak who broke up with me because her parents were against just because I am Serb (we had nice 1,5 year relationship without any conflicts) but wish of her parents were stronger than her love obviously. :lol00002::lol00002:

Fine example of Slavic "Brotherhood" xD

What do you say about Hungarians?

Pribislav
03-22-2020, 07:45 PM
I like your new profile. Srbija do Tokija!

:) :thumb001:

Terminator98
03-22-2020, 08:07 PM
Fine example of Slavic "Brotherhood" xD

Slavs are worldwide known as harmonious people. :D


What do you say about Hungarians?

Well, there is no Hungarians in my town (I live in Srem, Hungarians live in Novi Sad or northern of NS) but from my experience (I have cousins in north part of Vojvodina) and from experience of people who I know, Hungarians are quite nice people, a lot of them are traders (things in Hungary are 30% cheaper than in Serbia on average rofl) so they usually trying to sell something but beside that I think most of them respect Serbia and Serbs.

Terminator98
03-22-2020, 08:11 PM
I am sorry for insults said to Dušan. It was really distasteful, but I get mad too easily. I feel ashamed for what I wrote to him.

Dalmatian temperament. :D

Ford
03-22-2020, 08:11 PM
Slavs are worldwide known as harmonious people. :D



Well, there is no Hungarians in my town (I live in Srem, Hungarians live in Novi Sad or northern of NS) but from my experience (I have cousins in north part of Vojvodina) and from experience of people who I know, Hungarians are quite nice people, a lot of them are traders (things in Hungary are 30% cheaper than in Serbia on average rofl) so they usually trying to sell something but beside that I think most of them respect Serbia and Serbs.

I've generally heard from relatives who live in NS that Hungarians are pretty chill. I asked to see if you had any opinion. Funny how we seem to get better along with non-Slavs than with our so called brothers.

Terminator98
03-22-2020, 08:26 PM
I've generally heard from relatives who live in NS that Hungarians are pretty chill. I asked to see if you had any opinion. Funny how we seem to get better along with non-Slavs than with our so called brothers.

Well, Hungarians and Slovaks are quite opposite in my experience. Hungarians aren't scared to get into conflict (even psysical) if they need to but they really don't dislike us. On other side, Slovaks usually dislike us but they are (usually) scared to get into conflict and they retreat with first sign of dangerous (if you know what I want to say :D) so they simply avoid us (even though they don't have real reason for that). As I said, there are exceptions. Btw, Hungarians are 50% Slavic genetically or something like that, right? (I know some people who call them ,,honorary Slavs"). :D

Gaditanian
03-22-2020, 09:30 PM
A true Slav

https://archive-media-1.nyafuu.org/bant/image/1504/21/1504210583760.jpg

Pribislav
03-22-2020, 10:31 PM
Well, Hungarians and Slovaks are quite opposite in my experience. Hungarians aren't scared to get into conflict (even psysical) if they need to but they really don't dislike us. On other side, Slovaks usually dislike us but they are (usually) scared to get into conflict and they retreat with first sign of dangerous (if you know what I want to say :D) so they simply avoid us (even though they don't have real reason for that). As I said, there are exceptions. Btw, Hungarians are 50% Slavic genetically or something like that, right? (I know some people who call them ,,honorary Slavs"). :D

I think so. Feiichy know better about Magyar genetic.

Terminator98
03-22-2020, 10:41 PM
I am sorry for insults said to Dušan. It was really distasteful, but I get mad too easily. I feel ashamed for what I wrote to him.

I think you definitely should start training some martial art (or even compete on amateur level as you said few days ago). Imho, that is only way for you to spend your anger on positive way. :)