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user_
03-21-2020, 08:39 PM
Corsican, Sardinian and Georgian music sound so similar.
Corsican polyphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuzOH7tjxBQ
Sardinian polyphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21hwujlo_rk
Georgian polyphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XBB7x-V74
Seems like there was big Iberian civilization from Iberian peninsula to Georgian Iberia before Indo-Europeans came.
Basques saved their ancient language, Corsicans and Sardinians ancient music, Georgians both music and language.
MiloshN
03-21-2020, 08:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BH3z3h4Tco
https://youtu.be/8DFGWMXMrGs
https://youtu.be/5sQmU0WZyHQ
Nomansman
03-21-2020, 08:48 PM
It would been interesting to see what modern day europe would had looked like without any indo-europeans entering the continent and stayed in the steppes
user_
03-21-2020, 09:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BH3z3h4Tco
If not Serbian language in the beginning, i would guess them as Georgians )))
The polyphonic music tradition is following one narrow meridian gap spread between Parallel 43 to 45 N, from W Europe (northern Spain, South of France) through the Balkans way back to the Georgia.
https://i.ibb.co/74yKwwd/Untitled.jpg (https://ibb.co/9tYWFFk)
Synapsid
03-21-2020, 09:09 PM
It would been interesting to see what modern day europe would had looked like without any indo-europeans entering the continent and stayed in the steppes
More Med, less blue eyes, no blonds. Cultrally, more language families and a more advanced material culture in the river systems of Europe. A indus or nile like civilization in the Danube
Nomansman
03-21-2020, 09:12 PM
More Med, less blue eyes, no blonds
Would be interesting to see that. Wonder how life would had been then in Europe.
"owdism" amongst europeans might not even had been a thing then
user_
03-21-2020, 09:13 PM
It would been interesting to see what modern day europe would had looked like without any indo-europeans entering the continent and stayed in the steppes
We would not listen to Lady Gaga for sure, if this culture would be preserved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My1Y_R4FtEM
Synapsid
03-21-2020, 09:17 PM
Would be interesting to see that. Wonder how life would had been then in Europe.
"owdism" amongst europeans might not even had been a thing then
Cultrally speaking, more language families and a more advanced material culture in the river systems of Europe. A indus or nile like civilization in the Danube. OWD would exists, because Scandos and European Russia, baltics will still have nordish features because they had continued EHG/WHG ancestry before steppe invasion. What indo europeans did is spread the nothern phenotype across all of Central and Nothern Europe, spreading diseases which wiped out the local med looking neolithic culture
Nomansman
03-21-2020, 09:21 PM
Cultrally speaking, more language families and a more advanced material culture in the river systems of Europe. A indus or nile like civilization in the Danube. OWD would exists, because Scandos and European Russia, baltics will still have nordish features because they had continued EHG/WHG ancestry before steppe invasion. What indo europeans did is spread the nothern phenotype across all of Central and Nothern Europe, spreading diseases which wiped out the local med looking neolithic culture
Yeah, anatolian farmers even existed in Ireland. WOuld be so funny to see the reactions of irish people using time travel and going back to see that many ancient habitants look like slightly darker south europeans in ancient Ireland.
Synapsid
03-21-2020, 09:28 PM
Yeah, anatolian farmers even existed in Ireland. WOuld be so funny to see the reactions of irish people using time travel and going back to see that many ancient habitants look like slightly darker south europeans in ancient Ireland.
All Brits would not recognised the inhabitants of neolithic/Chacolithic inhabitants of the Islands as their ancestors. Because they were not. The British isles was an extreme case of population replacement, up to 90%, although it bounced back up by a few percentage, waves of Bell beaker related migration from the Celts to the Anglo saxons to the Vikings pretty much wiped out the influence of the local British farmer by the middle ages. Southern Europe was invaded and suffered population damage but the local neolithic population was much higher in the Med due the warmer climate and the mountains chains which separate Iberia and Italy and Greek from excessive steep invasion. In fact, you east Iranics have more Steppe ancestry than Greeks for example, esp. Kalash and Yagnobis.
Nomansman
03-21-2020, 09:40 PM
All Brits would not recognised the inhabitants of neolithic/Chacolithic inhabitants of the Islands as their ancestors. Because they were not. The British isles was an extreme case of population replacement, up to 90%, although it bounced back up by a few percentage, waves of Bell beaker related migration from the Celts to the Anglo saxons to the Vikings pretty much wiped out the influence of the local British farmer by the middle ages. Southern Europe was invaded and suffered population damage but the local neolithic population was much higher in the Med due the warmer climate and the mountains chains which separate Iberia and Italy and Greek from excessive steep invasion. In fact, you east Iranics have more Steppe ancestry than Greeks for example, esp. Kalash and Yagnobis.
If you mean ancient greeks, we might have more steppe admix(specially yagnobis/pamiris), and maybe also as high- slitghtly higher(compared to many greeks, excluding almost all mainland greeks....so i guess just eastern greeks?) compared to many greeks
Synapsid
03-21-2020, 09:44 PM
If you mean ancient greeks, we might have more steppe admix(specially yagnobis/pamiris), and maybe also as high- slitghtly higher(compared to many greeks, excluding almost all mainland greeks....so i guess just eastern greeks?) compared to many greeks
Yeah I meant ancient Greeks. Modern Greeks have Balto Slavic Admix. But my point is that most of Europe will look Med and the advanced Neolithic culture of Europe would not have collaspe and prehaps you could see an a proto-Indus/A. Egytians culture arising in the river ways of Europe, since they would not have faced a demographic collapse. So instead of the Minoans, perhaps Europe earliest cities will be in the Danuabe (Tripolye culture)
MiloshN
03-22-2020, 08:51 AM
If not Serbian language in the beginning, i would guess them as Georgians )))
The polyphonic music tradition is following one narrow meridian gap spread between Parallel 43 to 45 N, from W Europe (northern Spain, South of France) through the Balkans way back to the Georgia.
https://i.ibb.co/74yKwwd/Untitled.jpg (https://ibb.co/9tYWFFk)
lol no, it's Serbian only a different dialect.
Vojnik
03-22-2020, 01:04 PM
Macedonians had these type of songs in the past. But the folklore scene doesn't re create them anymore, sadly.
The closest i could find, in a modern day version, was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AffujtHltM
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