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Kyp
03-22-2020, 08:28 AM
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#1

Distance to: Lur1
5.58728020 Kurd_Sorani
5.60821719 Kurd
5.81694078 Turkmen_Iraq
6.26558856 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.98169750 Iranian
7.16766350 Zaza
7.17663570 Kurds
7.25332338 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.47302482 Iranians
7.92456939 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.05237232 Iranian_Fars
9.59719230 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.61335009 Azerbaijani
9.92131544 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.98710153 Turk_Southeast
11.24372269 Iran_Mazandaran
11.63164219 Iran_Central_East
12.81931355 Turk_East
12.84336405 Assyrian
13.48317841 Iran_Khorasan
13.97094127 Armenian_East
14.22730122 Turk_Central_East
14.70449251 Iranian_Jews
14.86409769 Turk_South
15.32042428 Armenian_West

#2

Distance to: Lur2
4.01159569 Iranian_Fars
5.11823212 Kurd_Sorani
5.96254140 Iranian
5.99485613 Iran_Central_East
6.06794034 Iranians
6.32812769 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.59241231 Kurd
7.18123248 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.68321547 Turkmen_Iraq
7.77777603 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.81369951 Kurds
8.05492396 Zaza
8.33106836 Iran_Mazandaran
9.03283455 Azerbaijani
9.12299841 Iran_Khorasan
10.23603927 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.32645576 Turk_Southeast
13.02220795 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.03199524 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.69515566 Turkmens
14.71723479 Turk_East
14.89062121 Parsi_India
15.02828999 Turk_Central_East
15.07510531 Turk_South
15.32145881 Turkmen_Iran

#3

Distance to: Lur3
3.90080761 Iranians
5.37608594 Iranian_Fars
6.06055278 Iranian
6.55196917 Kurd
6.95543672 Kurd_Sorani
7.27998626 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.87388722 Iran_Central_East
8.34052157 Kurds
8.49819393 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.82579175 Turkmen_Iraq
8.84823711 Iran_Mazandaran
8.96236576 Zaza
9.54264114 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.56185116 Iran_Khorasan
10.94529579 Azerbaijani
11.71998720 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.93445785 Turk_Southeast
14.22934644 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.85868769 Parsi_India
15.48492170 Turkmens
15.75135550 Turk_East
16.04030237 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
16.35284379 Turk_Central_East
16.73457499 Turk_South
16.96695907 Turkmen_Iran

#4

Distance to: Lur4
5.27650452 Iranians
5.44090985 Kurd
6.26350541 Kurds
6.27291798 Iranian
7.17768068 Iran_Mazandaran
7.53025232 Iranian_Fars
7.75232223 Kurd_Sorani
8.68197558 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.13203154 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.87926111 Zaza
10.09979703 Iran_Central_East
10.24599434 Turkmen_Iraq
11.85549662 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.34913855 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.40444329 Azerbaijani
13.62782815 Iran_Khorasan
14.20270749 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.82036030 Turk_Southeast
15.88030541 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.03873822 Assyrian
17.12216108 Turk_East
17.51483371 Parsi_India
17.77809326 Armenian_East
18.39707585 Iran_Bandari
18.50130806 Turkmens

#5

Distance to: Lur5
2.86048947 Iranian_Fars
4.79899990 Iranians
5.29335432 Kurd_Sorani
5.60008929 Iran_Central_East
6.26437547 Iranian
7.22970954 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.29482008 Kurd
7.73195965 Iran_Mazandaran
7.88100247 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.22594068 Turkmen_Iraq
8.48188658 Kurds
8.82922986 Zaza
9.28334530 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.77675815 Iran_Khorasan
10.66773640 Azerbaijani
11.70013675 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.75790343 Parsi_India
12.89843014 Turk_Southeast
13.35696073 Uzbekistan_Jews
15.31651396 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.65963920 Turk_East
15.91534166 Turkmens
16.44402323 Iran_Bandari
16.52933150 Turk_Central_East
16.86177333 Turkmen_Iran

#6

Distance to: Lur6
3.69075873 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.20430732 Kurd
4.30032557 Kurd_Sorani
4.73505016 Zaza
4.77327979 Kurds
5.25967680 Iranian
5.52488009 Turkmen_Iraq
5.57892463 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.53530412 Iranians
7.05630923 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.48598691 Iranian_Fars
8.52434162 Azerbaijani
8.95691911 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.83992886 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.94202193 Iran_Mazandaran
10.28281576 Turk_Southeast
10.42507554 Iran_Central_East
11.67973031 Turk_East
12.77740975 Iran_Khorasan
12.97037779 Armenian_East
13.40071267 Assyrian
13.47629029 Turk_Central_East
14.14309019 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.57757524 Turk_South
14.82676296 Armenian_West

#7

Distance to: Lur7
5.88016156 Kurd_Sorani
7.32763263 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.46903608 Iranian
7.49454468 Turkmen_Iraq
7.61672502 Iranians
7.69755156 Iranian_Fars
7.70525146 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.86591381 Zaza
7.99878116 Kurd
8.61373903 Kurds
9.61228381 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.30769130 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.41284303 Iran_Mazandaran
10.47737085 Iran_Central_East
11.00036818 Azerbaijani
11.21469126 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.45092768 Turk_Southeast
12.95302281 Assyrian
13.41418652 Turk_East
13.43456363 Iran_Khorasan
14.03514161 Armenian_East
15.20655122 Armenian_West
15.43672569 Iranian_Jews
15.58384099 Turk_Central_East
15.67700545 Azerbaijan_Jews

#8

Distance to: Lur8
5.33830497 Kurd
5.73319283 Kurds
5.88592389 Kurd_Sorani
6.94085730 Iranian
7.27499141 Iranians
7.45557510 Turkmen_Iraq
7.55309208 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.75836967 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.99404779 Zaza
8.48949351 Iranian_Fars
9.57546344 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.95084419 Iran_Mazandaran
10.26500852 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.84110214 Iran_Central_East
11.85899237 Azerbaijani
12.39426884 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.25130937 Assyrian
13.58515366 Turk_Southeast
14.42266272 Turk_East
14.56185084 Iranian_Jews
14.76892007 Armenian_East
14.93141989 Iran_Khorasan
16.20103392 Iraq_Jews
16.22071207 Azerbaijan_Jews
16.37176228 Armenian_West

#9

Distance to: Lur9
3.99858725 Kurd_Sorani
4.23330840 Kurd
4.34958619 Iranian
5.04647402 Kurds
5.16283837 Iranians
5.22793458 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.36455031 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.47438581 Iranian_Fars
6.19953224 Zaza
6.65313460 Turkmen_Iraq
7.47037482 Iran_Mazandaran
7.96185908 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.52579029 Iran_Central_East
9.50745497 Azerbaijani
10.18009332 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.69368505 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.46126956 Iran_Khorasan
11.90187380 Turk_Southeast
13.37354104 Turk_East
14.18240107 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.50533005 Assyrian
14.54107286 Armenian_East
15.31207040 Turk_Central_East
16.18089614 Turk_South
16.47858004 Parsi_India

#10

Distance to: Lur10
3.67035421 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.28317639 Kurd
4.42018099 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.76666550 Zaza
4.82945131 Kurd_Sorani
4.91707230 Iranian
5.66776852 Kurds
5.69156393 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.05233013 Turkmen_Iraq
6.94935968 Iranians
7.15576691 Iranian_Fars
7.70771043 Azerbaijani
7.81032650 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.46694248 Iran_Mazandaran
9.88205950 Turk_Southeast
10.13263046 Iran_Central_East
10.28093381 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.07455191 Turk_East
11.78465103 Iran_Khorasan
12.71894650 Turk_Central_East
12.94211343 Armenian_East
13.17852040 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.60190060 Turk_South
14.00808695 Assyrian
14.30466707 Turk_Central_Black_Sea



Average Components:

Gedrosian: 27.78
Siberian: 1.32
Northwest_African: 0.80
Southeast_Asian: 0.37
Atlantic_Med: 6.35
North_European: 4.08
South_Asian 4.03
East_African 0.50
Southwest_Asian: 14.64
East_Asian: 0.61
Caucasian: 39.33
SSA: 0.20


Average Distance:

Distance to: Lur_Iran
3.59806893 Iranian
3.74941329 Kurd
4.18976133 Iranians
4.66556535 Kurd_Sorani
5.23527459 Kurds
5.39252260 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.49330502 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.68525285 Iranian_Fars
6.41482658 Zaza
7.08724206 Turkmen_Iraq
7.37907176 Iran_Mazandaran
8.24817556 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.91093149 Iran_Central_East
10.06768593 Azerbaijani
10.43965038 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.86766304 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.85061602 Iran_Khorasan
12.30129262 Turk_Southeast
13.45692387 Turk_East
14.35573056 Assyrian
14.53911964 Armenian_East
15.02577452 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.55689879 Turk_Central_East
16.37058337 Parsi_India
16.38402881 Armenian_West
16.44222004 Turk_South
16.65593288 Iranian_Jews
16.95529711 Azerbaijan_Jews
17.22521408 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
17.27032715 Turkmens
17.69056528 Assyrian
17.75553716 Turk_Anatolia
17.80822282 Turk_Central_West
17.88224538 Georgia_Jews
17.94459529 Turk_Ahiska
18.30890767 Iraq_Jews
18.48850183 Turkmen_Iran
19.29537768 Iran_Bandari
19.67391674 Nusayri_Turkey
20.26215438 Turk_Southwest
20.30343567 Turk_West_BlackSea
20.67681068 Yoruk
20.87765552 Turk_East_Black_Sea
20.92673171 Lebanese
21.30157506 Hemshin
21.42024043 Circassian
21.59472158 Greek_Pontus
22.10159723 Laz
22.19629248 Syrians
22.22879664 Georgian_Adjara
22.25475455 Kumyks
22.31419055 Georgian_Turkey
22.54741892 Greek_Cappadocia
22.55234134 Turk_Northwest
23.96900916 Georgian_Imereti
24.46119376 Druze
24.49269483 Jordanians
24.57109277 Georgian_Gurian
25.07388083 Georgian_Svan
25.14709924 Avar_Dagestan
25.96467023 Lezgins
26.24794659 Georgian_Mingrelian
26.82356613 Yagnobi
27.66286861 AFG_Tajik
27.72767030 Greek_Crete
28.03504236 Palestinian
28.05083599 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
28.47065331 Chechens
28.53077812 Cypriots
28.71497693 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
29.49103084 AFG_Pashtun
30.20941410 Turkmen_Uzbekistan



Lurs are a mixture of aboriginal Iranian tribes, originating from Central Asia and the pre-Iranic tribes of western Iran, such as the Kassites (whose homeland appears to have been in what is now Lorestan) and Gutians. In accordance to geographical and archaeological matching, some historians argue that the Elamites to be the Proto-Lurs, whose language became Iranian only in the Middle Ages.[12][13] Michael M. Gunter states that they are closely related to the Kurds but that they "apparently began to be distinguished from the Kurds 1,000 years ago." He adds that the Sharafnama of Sharaf Khan Bidlisi "mentioned two Lur dynasties among the five Kurdish dynasties that had in the past enjoyed royalty or the highest form of sovereignty or independence."[7] In the Mu'jam Al-Buldan of Yaqut al-Hamawi mention is made of the Lurs as a Kurdish tribe living in the mountains between Khuzestan and Isfahan. The term Kurd according to Richard Frye was used for all Iranian nomads (including the population of Luristan as well as tribes in Kuhistan and Baluchis in Kirman) for all nomads, whether they were linguistically connected to the Kurds or not.[14]


Conclusion: Lurs are a typical Southwestern Iranian group, when trying to detect foreign admixture nothing atpyical shows up:


Iranian:Iranians,30.90,1.00,0.90,0.30,5.90,4.20,4. 20,0.90,14.20,0.30,36.70,0.50
Iranian:Iran_Mazandaran,31.99,0.58,0.22,0.38,2.85, 6.87,5.90,0.47,11.19,0.00,39.51,0.14
Iranian:Iranian_Fars,27.45,0.89,1.31,0.74,5.59,6.2 5,6.10,1 .25,14.09,1.23,34.77,0.33
Turkic:Turkmen_Uzbekistan,19.54,13.24,0.18,2.04,6. 54,12.86,5.08,0.05,6.49,13.96,19.93,0.07
Turkic:Karakalpak,10.24,22.04,0.08,3.26,5.09,16.51 ,2.78,0.1,1.55,27.38,10.98,0
Anatolian:Armenian_East,18.78,0.24,0.62,0.08,10.82 ,5.54,0.48,0.02,14.21,0.13,49.01,0
Anatolian:Armenian_West,17.23,0.05,0.79,0.11,12.26 ,3.33,0.39,0.1,16.05,0.08,49.54,0
Anatolian:Laz,17.25,0.06,0.17,0.25,9.41,5.05,0.1,0 ,10.19,0.03,57.48,0
Anatolian:Greek_Pontus,14.93,0.01,0.41,0.06,12.38, 4.19,0.13,0.02,12.78,0.1,54.94,0
Anatolian:Greek_Cappadocia,11.66,0.41,0.6,0,18.85, 6.27,0.13,0,14.23,0.1,47.73,0.02
Greek:Greek,3.30,0.30,0.60,0.00,28.00,20.20,0.10,0 .00,10.10,0.00,37.40,0.00
Caucasian:Lezgins,27.80,1.70,0.00,0.00,0.30,23.80, 0.00,0.00,0.80,0.00,45.60,0.00
Caucasian:Georgian_Mingrelian,18.78,0.69,0.15,0.13 ,4.16,9.36,0.24,0.05,5.1,0.36,60.98,0
Indian:Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste,31.90,0.00,0. 00,0.50,0.40,3.20,62.50,0.00,0.00,1.50,0.00,0.00
Indian:Indian,39.34,0.30,0.00,0.00,1.10,4.80,49.35 ,0.00,0.70,1.40,3.00,0.00
Africa:Bantu_S.W._Ovambo,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,6.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,93.60
Arab:Bedouin,5.00,0.00,4.90,0.00,8.20,0.40,0.00,5. 30,43.30,0.00,30.80,2.10
Arab:Saudis,3.60,0.00,1.40,0.00,2.60,0.90,0.30,2.6 0,67.77,0.00,20.52,0.30
Arab:Jordanians,9.60,0.00,5.50,0.00,10.80,0.90,0.2 0,4.90,27.90,0.10,38.00,2.10
Levantine:Lebanese,10.80,0.20,4.70,0.60,11.80,3.70 ,0.00,2.40,23.50,0.00,41.30,1.00

Result:

Target: Lur_Iran
Distance: 0.5780% / 0.57800940
78.2 Iranian
17.6 Anatolian
2.2 Arab
1.0 Indian
1.0 Turkic


I think the Anatolian shift is normal for West Iranian populations.

Sora
03-22-2020, 09:25 AM
Very close to Kurds genetically. Phenotypically they're a bit closer to Persians, though Persians & Kurds look similar

Kyp
03-22-2020, 09:38 AM
Very close to Kurds genetically. Phenotypically they're a bit closer to Persians, though Persians & Kurds look similar

Yes but in my opinion there is significant overlap (genetically) between Persians from Western regions and Kurds. At least the difference can't be detected by these calculators a lot of the time.