Does this polish Alpine girl pass anywhere out of central Europe?

[Viridian1]

https://i.ibb.co/ncxMp1R/agb-2.jpg (https://ibb.co/6Pj0QtN)
https://i.ibb.co/JzQn6FL/agb-3.jpg (https://ibb.co/55FTpxD)
https://i.ibb.co/jgJwB9W/agb-5.jpg (https://ibb.co/GcHMBft)
https://i.ibb.co/k2WS75W/agb-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/GQb56nb)
https://i.ibb.co/wsCfrXZ/agb-4.jpg (https://ibb.co/X8pqkgf)
https://i.ibb.co/NtSq2cr/agb-6.jpg (https://ibb.co/gmV8Zkd)
https://i.ibb.co/gZkDZX5/agb7.jpg (https://ibb.co/SwFKw1h)

[Kyp]

Komi

[Viridian1]

Komi

Comparing Alpines to Komi? Do you want to be eaten by bears? :D

[Laag]

Looks Polish to me

[Ülev]

no, because her head is smaller than this Norwegian one
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318832-Classify-Norwegian-model-Lene-Egeli

[Satem]

She can also pass as East Slav I believe

[Jana]

Looks pseudo SSA admixed in some photos, especially first. Lika a quardoon or so.

[CommonSense]

She's not really Alpine, more like Gorid. Could pass as a South Slav, but not one of the most typical faces.

[Kyp]

Edit:

Looks Komi can pass in Norway

[IrisSelene]

she could pass in romania imo


looks gorid

[MobyD]

Looks pseudo SSA admixed in some photos, especially first. Lika a quardoon or so.

No she doesn’t...

[Immanenz]

can pass also in Bulgaria/Romenia

[KirillMazur]

East Baltic+ a bit of Alpine. Can pass here.

[PaleoEuropean]

She looks distinctly Polish to me. Especially in the red and orange shirts, her lips and mouth shape are very Polish.

[cass]

She's not particularly Alpine. Proper Alpinid should be dark pigmented first of all.

Haute-Saône
https://www.estrepublicain.fr/edition-vesoul-haute-saone/2020/02/28/cedric-fischer-lutte-ouvriere-devoile-sa-liste
Savoie
https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/politique/municipales-2020-la-liste-citoyenne-et-solidaire-de-chambery-se-trouve-un-local-et-80-candidats-1576249893

[Viridian1]

She's not particularly Alpine. Proper Alpinid should be dark pigmented first of all.


Would you say she is Gorid?

[cass]

Would you say she is Gorid?

I do not use swedish taxonomy. AFAIK Lundmand has never been to Poland.

[Renekton]

Central Europe

[Viridian1]

I do not use swedish taxonomy. AFAIK Lundmand has never been to Poland.

Name her pheno.

[cass]

It depends on the author. Czekanowski would say Subnordid La so with stronger Laponoid fraction. Stolyhwo or Michalski probably would name her Baltid (East Baltid).

[Viridian1]

I would agree with Baltic but not much with Subnordid.

[cass]

I would agree with Baltic but not much with Subnordid.

I can assure you that subnordid is original and much older (Joseph Deniker (1899)) term for this type.

[Viridian1]

Subnordid often looks like Baltic(Tavastid) or Neo-Danubian, also with Nordid mix or so called "West Baltid" That girl is too highly alpinised and doesn't show much of nordic feature IMO.

[cass]

Subnordid often looks like Baltic(Tavastid) or Neo-Danubian, also with Nordid mix or so called "West Baltid" That girl is too highly alpinised and doesn't show much of nordic feature IMO.

Please don't make a fool of yourself. I would suggest reading books instead of online amateurish sources.

[Viridian1]

I am going reading. Good night.

[cass]

I am going reading. Good night.

Very good! btw. West Baltid is Nordid equivalent in late Soviet taxonomy. No other anthropologist use this term.

[Borat]

Mix, mostly Fenno-Ugric and ssa

[Ülev]

Mix, mostly Fenno-Ugric and ssa

do you suggest something like on this very interesting thread?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?161546-POLES-THE-BLACKS-OF-CENTRAL-SOUTH-EASTERN-EUROPE

[Laag]

She's not Alpine. You're posting Baltic looking girls and call them Alpines because you want to whitewash Alpines. I will report you.

[Ülev]

She's not Alpine. You're posting Baltic looking girls and call them Alpines because you want to whitewash Alpines. I will report you.

he is almighty now, he is a funding member, you can't report him successfully

[Viridian1]

Please don't make a fool of yourself. I would suggest reading books instead of online amateurish sources.

Would you agree with alpinised Neo-Danubian?


She's not Alpine. You're posting Baltic looking girls and call them Alpines because you want to whitewash Alpines. I will report you.


he is almighty now, he is a funding member, you can't report him successfully

You both Laag and Sundqvist gonna be reported for plotting against me

[cass]

Would you agree with alpinised Neo-Danubian?



Neo Danubian is C. Conn’s therm. First of all Coon was not regarded as credible academic source in Europe even 80y ago. AFAIK he has never made any local research, especially in E.Europe. His understanding of Czekanowski matrix was obviously wrong and I can provide simple and logic prove. Theory of durability of anthropological features has been rejected. Secular trends in the main anthropological features, including growth, skull dimensions etc. are well described. With all the consequences. Moreover taking into account contemporary genetic knowledge the Danubian theory must be rejected.

[Viridian1]

Neo Danubian is C. Conn’s therm. First of all Coon was not regarded as credible academic source in Europe even 80y ago. AFAIK he has never made any local research, especially in E.Europe. His understanding of Czekanowski matrix was obviously wrong and I can provide simple and logic prove. Theory of durability of anthropological features has been rejected. Secular trends in the main anthropological features, including growth, skull dimensions etc. are well described. With all the consequences. Moreover taking into account contemporary genetic knowledge the Danubian theory must be rejected.

So all those we call Neo-Danubians or Baltids, Czekanowski describes as Subnordid race (Nordid + Lappid)?

[cass]

So all those we call Neo-Danubians or Baltids, Czekanowski describes as Subnordid race (Nordid + Lappid)?

Not really, only partly.
Surowiecki's Słowiańska(1824)= Deniker's Subnordique et Vistuliene= Stołyhwo's fanobrchycephalus= Eickstedt's Osteuropeide= Biasutti's Baltica= Czekanowski's Typ subnordyczny.
Surowiecki's Fińska żółtowłosa= Deniker's Race orientale=Eickstedt's Sibiride=Biasutti's Forme europeidi arcaiche= Czekanowski's Typ paleoeuropeidalny, Typ Paloeazjatycki
Moreover Czekanowski (1911) distinguished Preslavic type (pre - so before the arrival of Slavs) later named Sublaponoid (Czekanowski 1928-61).
I hope that clarifies things.

[Viridian1]

Not really, only partly.
Surowiecki's Słowiańska(1824)= Deniker's Subnordique et Vistuliene= Stołyhwo's fanobrchycephalus= Eickstedt's Osteuropeide= Biasutti's Baltica= Czekanowski's Typ subnordyczny.
Surowiecki's Fińska żółtowłosa= Deniker's Race orientale=Eickstedt's Sibiride=Biasutti's Forme europeidi arcaiche= Czekanowski's Typ paleoeuropeidalny, Typ Paloeazjatycki
Moreover Czekanowski (1911) distinguished Preslavic type (pre - so before the arrival of Slavs) later named Sublaponoid (Czekanowski 1928-61).
I hope that clarifies things.

I am more confused now, but I know what Adam Wanke said so I understand my confusion :P

[cass]

I am more confused now, but I know what Adam Wanke said so I understand my confusion :P
Synonyms of different taxonomic models
https://i.ibb.co/H4S9b9T/IMG-20200401-0002.jpg (https://ibb.co/mTjP2P5)