Trabzonian Turk results

[Samnium]

MyHeritage :

Italien = Italian, Asiatique de l'Ouest = West Asian and Ouest et nord-européen = Western and Northern Euro

https://i.imgur.com/M1mXl0u.png

Eurogenes K13 :
https://i.imgur.com/2qoTLWJ.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-RBo1sXYAAMD1v?format=jpg&name=medium

[Aileron]

Cool results

[Jana]

Wow, very European influenced! I haven't seen Trabzonian like that before. They are usually Armenian/Laz like.

[Samnium]

Wow, very European influenced! I haven't seen Trabzonian like that before. They are usually Armenian/Laz like.

It's interesting, with results like that you see that you can find almost everything in areas that have seen many different people. Same for Southern Italy, Greece and so on !

[CommonSense]

He's obviously mixed.

[Jana]

It's interesting, with results like that you see that you can find almost everything in areas that have seen many different people. Same for Southern Italy, Greece and so on !

Yes, very much agree. In my own region Dalmatia native people vary a lot as well.

[Samnium]

He's obviously mixed.

Both parents are from Trabzon, he has maybe a recent non Turk ancestor but he looks Turkish, has a turkish name + surname + certified Turks parents (born in Turkey atleast).

[Samnium]

Yes, very much agree. In my own region Dalmatia native people vary a lot as well.

I've said that to others people but in these areas you have to do extensive genealogy/local or micro-local history to understand why you see such gaps, why some people score more one component etc. Genetics there is almost on an individual scale, difficult to make any average or "typical" result.

Isolation is also important, in addition to recent ancestors

[Epirus DNA]

Both parents are from Trabzon, he has maybe a recent non Turk ancestor but he looks Turkish, has a turkish name + surname + certified Turks parents (born in Turkey atleast).

Meh. This guy is a Turkified Greek

[Pine]

Both parents are from Trabzon, he has maybe a recent non Turk ancestor but he looks Turkish, has a turkish name + surname + certified Turks parents (born in Turkey atleast).

There isn't even a steady climb toward him among available samples. He's an utter breakaway. This is what would be deemed as an outlier in any study. And it would be deemed as an outlier because there is something likely wrong with it. Maybe MH went nuts during their current update process. He's simply not a Trabzon Turk.

[Pine]

Meh. This guy is a Turkified Greek

He likely isn't even that.

[Samnium]

Meh. This guy is a Turkified Greek

His Euro side seems to be more Western however.

But I don't know, he's an outlier but at the same time do we have evidences that all Trabzonian would look like Armenians ? I'm not sure honestly. We haven't many samples from that area.

[Pine]

Meh. This guy is a Turkified Greek

He likely isn't even that.

[CommonSense]

Both parents are from Trabzon, he has maybe a recent non Turk ancestor but he looks Turkish, has a turkish name + surname + certified Turks parents (born in Turkey atleast).

That doesn't mean anything. One of them could be adopted or his mom may have some secrets of her own. Mary's husband was born in Romania and is allegedly fully Romanian, yet he scores 15% Amerindian and 1-2% SSA, in overall admixture he is like a half Mestizo, half Balkan person and he matches people from Mexico, Costa Rica and Puerto Rico.
People from the Trabzon region, regardless whether they have Turkish or Greek identity are very homogenous and closely related to Armenians and Georgians. This dude's results indicate he has one North Italian parent.

[Aileron]

That doesn't mean anything. One of them could be adopted or his mom may have some secrets of her own. Mary's husband was born in Romania and is allegedly fully Romanian, yet he scores 15% Amerindian and 1-2% SSA, in overall admixture he is like a half Mestizo, half Balkan person and he matches people from Mexico, Costa Rica and Puerto Rico.
People from the Trabzon region, regardless whether they have Turkish or Greek identity are very homogenous and closely related to Armenians and Georgians. This dude's results indicate he has one North Italian parent.

you shouldnt be sure that much my friend..

[Jana]

That doesn't mean anything. One of them could be adopted or his mom may have some secrets of her own. Mary's husband was born in Romania and is allegedly fully Romanian, yet he scores 15% Amerindian and 1-2% SSA, in overall admixture he is like a half Mestizo, half Balkan person and he matches people from Mexico, Costa Rica and Puerto Rico.
People from the Trabzon region, regardless whether they have Turkish or Greek identity are very homogenous and closely related to Armenians and Georgians. This dude's results indicate he has one North Italian parent.

Where can we see Mary's husband results, and how did you get to see them? Really curious.

[Samnium]

That doesn't mean anything. One of them could be adopted or his mom may have some secrets of her own. Mary's husband was born in Romania and is allegedly fully Romanian, yet he scores 15% Amerindian and 1-2% SSA, in overall admixture he is like a half Mestizo, half Balkan person and he matches people from Mexico, Costa Rica and Puerto Rico.
People from the Trabzon region, regardless whether they have Turkish or Greek identity are very homogenous and closely related to Armenians and Georgians. This dude's results indicate he has one North Italian parent.

Maybe he is an half Northern Italian/half Turkish mix but he has said that his parents are Turks not that one is italian, without the true genealogy I can't really say.

I always challenge the supposed homogeneity of some groups, because you can't test all the population, I have no evidence to challenge what he's saying, he's indeed an outlier based on the other results from Trabzon Greeks, but at the same time I'm not sure that all Trabzonians are Armenian like.

[Voskos]

He isn't necessarily mixed.Cretan Turks are also slightly more northern shifted than Cretan Greeks . I match one or two and their haplogroups are slavic. I'm assuming many Turks have a Balkan Turk(or maybe a Georgian in OP's case) somewhere in their family tree.

[Aileron]

He isn't necessarily mixed.Cretan Turks are also slightly more northern shifted than Cretan Greeks . I match one or two and their haplogroups are slavic. I'm assuming many Turks have a Balkan Turk(or maybe a Georgian in OP's case) somewhere in their family tree.

Georgians are genetically very West Asian though, more than us

[Epirus DNA]

This is all Greek to me.

Italian Abruzzo
Central Greek
East Sicilian
West Sicilian
South Italian
Greek Thessaly
Tuscan
Ashkenazi

[Kmakkmak]

Trabzon have not Laz other non-Turk people. Most of Trabzon is Turk but of course they are mixed a lot of other people their Y Dna shown it. laz or tzani is Caucasian people who they have G2a(Caucasian and Anatolian branch) and J2a(Caucasian and Anatolian branch) rich and L1b(Caucasian people have a lot of L1b). Turkic people of East-Black Sea region have similar Y DNA of their non-Turkic neighbor. Such as Hemshin, Trabzonian Greek(mostly Hellenized local origin) and Georgian(mostly similar early people of Anatolian(Hattians and Other Anatolian and Caucasian local)

[Pine]

Maybe he is an half Northern Italian/half Turkish mix but he has said that his parents are Turks not that one is italian, without the true genealogy I can't really say.

I always challenge the supposed homogeneity of some groups, because you can't test all the population, I have no evidence to challenge what he's saying, he's indeed an outlier based on the other results from Trabzon Greeks, but at the same time I'm not sure that all Trabzonians are Armenian like.

You were already a moron to post his kit#, might as well go check out his cousin matches and find those who have nothing to do with Turkey(hint: they're there).

[CommonSense]

Where can we see Mary's husband results, and how did you get to see them? Really curious.

Mary and her husband both tested a long time ago and were active on forumbiodiversity. Here's a thread where she posted their results. Needless to say, it was quite controversial, basically 50 pages of her trying to cope her way out of her husband having exotic ancestry and the others roasting her to death :D Peterski was active back then and he analysed their raw data.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=19264

This is the gedmatch kit of "Baboon":

FD8018978

[Samnium]

You were already a moron to post his kit#, might as well go check out his cousin matches and find those who have nothing to do with Turkey(hint: they're there).

I post genetical results that I find interesting, if you don't like them, get away of this thread.

[Samnium]

Mary and her husband both tested a long time ago and were active on forumbiodiversity.
...



HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Kit FD8018978

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 26.6
2 Mediterranean 25.63
3 Caucasian 17.2
4 American 12.87
5 SW-Asian 6.84
6 Baloch 6.76
7 NE-Asian 1.31
8 W-African 1.04
9 E-African 0.76
10 Papuan 0.62
11 San 0.34
12 Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 16.94
2 romanian-a (behar) 18.08
3 italian (hgdp) 18.28
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.45
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.58
6 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.66
7 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 19.12
8 colombian (1000genomes) 21.43
9 ashkenazi (harappa) 22.2
10 puerto-rican (bryc) 23.19
11 spaniard (behar) 23.37
12 french (hgdp) 23.67
13 spaniard (1000genomes) 23.97
14 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 23.99
15 hungarian (behar) 24.8
16 slovenian (xing) 26.33
17 colombian (bryc) 27.66
18 morocco-jew (behar) 28.42
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 28.93
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 29.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 47% colombian (1000genomes) @ 3.75
2 54.4% romanian-a (behar) + 45.6% colombian (1000genomes) @ 3.84
3 69.7% romanian-a (behar) + 30.3% mexican (1000genomes) @ 5.42
4 71.9% romanian-a (behar) + 28.1% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 5.83
5 68.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 31.4% mexican (1000genomes) @ 6.29
6 70.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 29.1% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 6.75
7 85% italian (hgdp) + 15% totonac (xing) @ 7.2
8 84.1% italian (hgdp) + 15.9% maya (hgdp) @ 7.2
9 85.1% italian (hgdp) + 14.9% pima (hgdp) @ 7.21
10 72.2% italian (hgdp) + 27.8% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 7.24
11 70.1% italian (hgdp) + 29.9% mexican (1000genomes) @ 7.27
12 84.1% italian (hgdp) + 15.9% bolivian (xing) @ 7.3
13 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% colombian (hgdp) @ 7.33
14 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% karitiana (hgdp) @ 7.34
15 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% surui (hgdp) @ 7.34
16 81.9% italian (hgdp) + 18.1% peruvian (1000genomes) @ 7.42
17 82.3% romanian-a (behar) + 17.7% peruvian (1000genomes) @ 7.78
18 69.9% tuscan (1000genomes) + 30.1% mexican (1000genomes) @ 7.98
19 72.1% tuscan (hapmap) + 27.9% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 8.01
20 61.1% tuscan (1000genomes) + 38.9% colombian (bryc) @ 8.03

[Jana]

Mary and her husband both tested a long time ago and were active on forumbiodiversity. Here's a thread where she posted their results. Needless to say, it was quite controversial, basically 50 pages of her trying to cope her way out of her husband having exotic ancestry and the others roasting her to death :D Peterski was active back then and he analysed their raw data.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=19264

This is the gedmatch kit of "Baboon":

FD8018978

Amazing!!!! I love TA :thumb001::jump0000:

[Jana]

HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Kit FD8018978

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 26.6
2 Mediterranean 25.63
3 Caucasian 17.2
4 American 12.87
5 SW-Asian 6.84
6 Baloch 6.76
7 NE-Asian 1.31
8 W-African 1.04
9 E-African 0.76
10 Papuan 0.62
11 San 0.34
12 Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 16.94
2 romanian-a (behar) 18.08
3 italian (hgdp) 18.28
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.45
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.58
6 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.66
7 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 19.12
8 colombian (1000genomes) 21.43
9 ashkenazi (harappa) 22.2
10 puerto-rican (bryc) 23.19
11 spaniard (behar) 23.37
12 french (hgdp) 23.67
13 spaniard (1000genomes) 23.97
14 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 23.99
15 hungarian (behar) 24.8
16 slovenian (xing) 26.33
17 colombian (bryc) 27.66
18 morocco-jew (behar) 28.42
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 28.93
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 29.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 47% colombian (1000genomes) @ 3.75
2 54.4% romanian-a (behar) + 45.6% colombian (1000genomes) @ 3.84
3 69.7% romanian-a (behar) + 30.3% mexican (1000genomes) @ 5.42
4 71.9% romanian-a (behar) + 28.1% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 5.83
5 68.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 31.4% mexican (1000genomes) @ 6.29
6 70.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 29.1% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 6.75
7 85% italian (hgdp) + 15% totonac (xing) @ 7.2
8 84.1% italian (hgdp) + 15.9% maya (hgdp) @ 7.2
9 85.1% italian (hgdp) + 14.9% pima (hgdp) @ 7.21
10 72.2% italian (hgdp) + 27.8% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 7.24
11 70.1% italian (hgdp) + 29.9% mexican (1000genomes) @ 7.27
12 84.1% italian (hgdp) + 15.9% bolivian (xing) @ 7.3
13 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% colombian (hgdp) @ 7.33
14 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% karitiana (hgdp) @ 7.34
15 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% surui (hgdp) @ 7.34
16 81.9% italian (hgdp) + 18.1% peruvian (1000genomes) @ 7.42
17 82.3% romanian-a (behar) + 17.7% peruvian (1000genomes) @ 7.78
18 69.9% tuscan (1000genomes) + 30.1% mexican (1000genomes) @ 7.98
19 72.1% tuscan (hapmap) + 27.9% ecuadorian (bryc) @ 8.01
20 61.1% tuscan (1000genomes) + 38.9% colombian (bryc) @ 8.03

LOOOOL

And Mary is a creator of Racial Ladder :rofl_002::rofl_002::rotfl::1127:

He is mixed with Latinos!

[Pine]

I post genetical results that I find interesting, if you don't like them, get away of this thread.

Take some responsibility and delete his kit number. Then explain that based on his cousin matches, he clearly has other recent ancestry.

[Aileron]

Take some responsibility and delete his kit number. Then explain that based on his cousin matches, he clearly has other recent ancestry.

Maybe he is half Balkan Turk half Trabzon

These results are more in line western Turkey or Balkan Turks

[CommonSense]

LOOOOL

And Mary is a creator of Racial Ladder :rofl_002::rofl_002::rotfl::1127:

He is mixed with Latinos!

It's funny that she thinks her husband is a true white man, but calls pure Southern Europeans like the member Helena (Spanish) 'ethnic' :biggrin:

[Pine]

Maybe he is half Balkan Turk half Trabzon

These results are more in line western Turkey or Balkan Turks

That's somewhat possible.

[Jana]

It's funny that she thinks her husband is a true white man, but calls pure Southern Europeans like the member Helena (Spanish) 'ethnic' :biggrin:

He looks very ethnic too, but this is really hillarious. Tri-racial Latino ancestry in Romania, lol that would be hard to find even if she specifically searched for it! Shocking xD
Do you have her results?

[FinalFlash]

Doesn't seem like a Trabzon Turk whatsoever.

[Maintenance]

He looks very ethnic too, but this is really hillarious. Tri-racial Latino ancestry in Romania, lol that would be hard to find even if she specifically searched for it! Shocking xD
Do you have her results?

he doesn't look ethnic

[CommonSense]

He looks very ethnic too, but this is really hillarious. Tri-racial Latino ancestry in Romania, lol that would be hard to find even if she specifically searched for it! Shocking xD
Do you have her results?

This is all I have since I don't know the kit number, but it should be just labeled as "Mary". Maybe Leto has her among his matches, they are from the same region and she scores similar to him:

1 Baltic 30.56
2 Eastern_Euro 21.5
3 Atlantic 19.91
4 North_Sea 15.31
5 Siberian 4.78
6 West_Med 2.63
7 South_Asian 2.36
8 West_Asian 2.22
9 Amerindian 0.72
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Estonian_Polish + 5% Evens @ 4.14
2 94.6% Estonian_Polish + 5.4% Dolgan @ 4.15
3 94.9% Estonian_Polish + 5.1% Evenki @ 4.15
4 94.7% Estonian_Polish + 5.3% Yakut @ 4.24

[Thracian]

Maybe he is half Balkan Turk half Trabzon

These results are more in line western Turkey or Balkan Turks

I don't think so. His NA is even higher than most Balkan Turks.

Probably, 1/2 North Italian and 1/2 ethnic Turk from Northeastern Turkey because he has significant East Eurasia and South Asia which indicate a Turkmen ancestry.

[Bornoz]

It is not possible for him to be totally from Trabzon.

[Bornoz]

Meh. This guy is a Turkified Greek

Lul
It is not funny if you are trolling but it is funny af if you are not.

[Epirus DNA]

Lul
It is not funny if you are trolling but it is funny af if you are not.

:roll:

[Jana]

This is all I have since I don't know the kit number, but it should be just labeled as "Mary". Maybe Leto has her among his matches, they are from the same region and she scores similar to him:

1 Baltic 30.56
2 Eastern_Euro 21.5
3 Atlantic 19.91
4 North_Sea 15.31
5 Siberian 4.78
6 West_Med 2.63
7 South_Asian 2.36
8 West_Asian 2.22
9 Amerindian 0.72
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Estonian_Polish + 5% Evens @ 4.14
2 94.6% Estonian_Polish + 5.4% Dolgan @ 4.15
3 94.9% Estonian_Polish + 5.1% Evenki @ 4.15
4 94.7% Estonian_Polish + 5.3% Yakut @ 4.24

Mary scores 0% East Med!!!!

:icon_smile:

I have never seen this even in Finns and other extreme NE Euros. Wow, she is zero wog.
That's why she found Baboon, for balance :1127:

[itilvolga]

This thread is entirely a joke lol

[Freeroostah]

Pontic Greek imo but MyHeritage is dumb enough to show Italian instead of Greek

[Pine]

Pontic Greek imo but MyHeritage is dumb enough to show Italian instead of Greek

He's not Pontic Greek.

[Kaspias]

Half North Italian

[Epirus DNA]

This thread is entirely a joke lol

:rofl_002:

[Bornoz]

These ''Greek'' claims prove that most members don't know much about genetics.

[Samnium]

This thread is entirely a joke lol

Then tell to him that he's not Turkish neither Trabzonian.

I don't know his life, I've only posted him as "Trabzonian" because it's that way that he describes himself, that's all.

I don't have any agenda.

[Ion Basescul]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-RBo1sXYAAMD1v?format=jpg&name=medium

Acculturated Greek

[Pine]

OP, good on you for hiding his kit number, but get rid of his full name. It's at the top of the page.

[Dorian]

Half Levantine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_Turkey#Demographics
https://www.dailysabah.com/feature/2019/01/28/last-levantines-of-turkey-working-to-keep-their-culture-alive

[Leto]

This is all I have since I don't know the kit number, but it should be just labeled as "Mary". Maybe Leto has her among his matches, they are from the same region and she scores similar to him:

1 Baltic 30.56
2 Eastern_Euro 21.5
3 Atlantic 19.91
4 North_Sea 15.31
5 Siberian 4.78
6 West_Med 2.63
7 South_Asian 2.36
8 West_Asian 2.22
9 Amerindian 0.72
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Estonian_Polish + 5% Evens @ 4.14
2 94.6% Estonian_Polish + 5.4% Dolgan @ 4.15
3 94.9% Estonian_Polish + 5.1% Evenki @ 4.15
4 94.7% Estonian_Polish + 5.3% Yakut @ 4.24


Mary scores 0% East Med!!!!

:icon_smile:

I have never seen this even in Finns and other extreme NE Euros. Wow, she is zero wog.
That's why she found Baboon, for balance :1127:
I don't know who Mary is (I assume she is some old inactive member) but zero East Med is perfectly normal on K15 for many Northern or Eastern Europeans.

[eatensemn]

Half Levantine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_Turkey#Demographics
https://www.dailysabah.com/feature/2019/01/28/last-levantines-of-turkey-working-to-keep-their-culture-alive

Well there was a genoese colony somewhere in the east black sea, isn't it possible?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Repubblica_di_Genova.png/1024px-Repubblica_di_Genova.png

[Aldaris]

I don't know who Mary is (I assume she is some old inactive member) but zero East Med is perfectly normal on K15 for many Northern or Eastern Europeans.

Not like you've joined yesterday, so I'm kinda surprised, but good for you either way. Trust me on that.

[Maintenance]

mary k13

https://i.imgur.com/78wsl1p.jpg

[Leto]

mary k13

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/78wsl1p.jpg
I've looked up the email associated with that kit number.
The person's results look very Northern Russian.

Population
Gedrosia 2.11 Pct
Siberian 5.14 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 20.26 Pct
North_European 60.30 Pct
South_Asian 2.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.38 Pct
East_Asian 1.41 Pct
Caucasus 8.33 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 30.04
2 EAST_EURO 27.52
3 ATLANTIC 14.54
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.3
5 WEST_MED 4.79
6 SIBERIAN 4.59
7 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.14
8 WEST_ASIAN 1.47
9 EAST_MED 0.61

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Russian 5.66
2 West_Russian 6.19
3 East_Russian 6.33
4 Northwest_Russian 6.84
5 Ukrainian-Russian 7.28
6 Belorussian 7.64
7 Erzya 7.98
8 EE 8.64
9 UA 9.28
10 East_Finnish 9.52
11 PL 9.54
12 LIT 10.42
13 South_Finnish 11.5
14 Udmurt 16.36
15 Komi 17.57
16 HU 18.46
17 North_Swedish 19.29
18 AT 21.81
19 South_&_Central_Swedish 23.29
20 Serbian 23.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% Northwest_Russian + 28% Udmurt @ 2.76
2 56.4% North_Russian + 43.6% Northwest_Russian @ 3.17
3 52.5% East_Russian + 47.5% Northwest_Russian @ 3.28
4 68.3% North_Russian + 31.7% LIT @ 3.31
5 60.1% North_Russian + 39.9% Belorussian @ 3.34
6 53.3% North_Russian + 46.7% West_Russian @ 3.34
7 65% East_Russian + 35% LIT @ 3.47
8 70.2% Belorussian + 29.8% Udmurt @ 3.49
9 66.8% North_Russian + 33.2% PL @ 3.54
10 92% Northwest_Russian + 8% Selkup @ 3.57
11 66.2% North_Russian + 33.8% UA @ 3.6
12 74.9% Northwest_Russian + 25.1% Komi @ 3.66
13 55.1% Northwest_Russian + 44.9% Erzya @ 3.67
14 64.8% North_Russian + 35.2% EE @ 3.76
15 62.1% LIT + 37.9% Udmurt @ 3.82
16 51.5% Belorussian + 48.5% Erzya @ 3.86
17 57.1% East_Russian + 42.9% Belorussian @ 4.04
18 60.5% North_Russian + 39.5% Ukrainian-Russian @ 4.05
19 58.3% Erzya + 41.7% LIT @ 4.13
20 94.4% Northwest_Russian + 5.6% Chukchi @ 4.24

[Dorian]

Well there was a genoese colony somewhere in the east black sea, isn't it possible?


For it to be half his ancestry ,it'd should be from some community that was endogamous until recently. Since he didn't give more details about his roots ,trabzon could be just one parent.
That's just an idea though ,maybe there's something else going on.

[Jana]

I've looked up the email associated with that kit number.
The person's results look very Northern Russian.

Population
Gedrosia 2.11 Pct
Siberian 5.14 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 20.26 Pct
North_European 60.30 Pct
South_Asian 2.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.38 Pct
East_Asian 1.41 Pct
Caucasus 8.33 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 30.04
2 EAST_EURO 27.52
3 ATLANTIC 14.54
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.3
5 WEST_MED 4.79
6 SIBERIAN 4.59
7 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.14
8 WEST_ASIAN 1.47
9 EAST_MED 0.61

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Russian 5.66
2 West_Russian 6.19
3 East_Russian 6.33
4 Northwest_Russian 6.84
5 Ukrainian-Russian 7.28
6 Belorussian 7.64
7 Erzya 7.98
8 EE 8.64
9 UA 9.28
10 East_Finnish 9.52
11 PL 9.54
12 LIT 10.42
13 South_Finnish 11.5
14 Udmurt 16.36
15 Komi 17.57
16 HU 18.46
17 North_Swedish 19.29
18 AT 21.81
19 South_&_Central_Swedish 23.29
20 Serbian 23.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% Northwest_Russian + 28% Udmurt @ 2.76
2 56.4% North_Russian + 43.6% Northwest_Russian @ 3.17
3 52.5% East_Russian + 47.5% Northwest_Russian @ 3.28
4 68.3% North_Russian + 31.7% LIT @ 3.31
5 60.1% North_Russian + 39.9% Belorussian @ 3.34
6 53.3% North_Russian + 46.7% West_Russian @ 3.34
7 65% East_Russian + 35% LIT @ 3.47
8 70.2% Belorussian + 29.8% Udmurt @ 3.49
9 66.8% North_Russian + 33.2% PL @ 3.54
10 92% Northwest_Russian + 8% Selkup @ 3.57
11 66.2% North_Russian + 33.8% UA @ 3.6
12 74.9% Northwest_Russian + 25.1% Komi @ 3.66
13 55.1% Northwest_Russian + 44.9% Erzya @ 3.67
14 64.8% North_Russian + 35.2% EE @ 3.76
15 62.1% LIT + 37.9% Udmurt @ 3.82
16 51.5% Belorussian + 48.5% Erzya @ 3.86
17 57.1% East_Russian + 42.9% Belorussian @ 4.04
18 60.5% North_Russian + 39.5% Ukrainian-Russian @ 4.05
19 58.3% Erzya + 41.7% LIT @ 4.13
20 94.4% Northwest_Russian + 5.6% Chukchi @ 4.24

She looks very typical Slavic Russian/east european in photos, with no visible Finnic influence, I wouldn't guess she is from north Russia.

[Leto]

She looks very typical Slavic Russian/east european in photos, with no visible Finnic influence, I wouldn't guess she is from north Russia.
There is no pronounced division between Northern and Southern Russians, it's just a gradient. Northern Russians don't look like Sami. That's a forum myth (or rather stereotype).
Slavic Russian = ethnic Russian.

Do you have a photo by the way? And which parts of Russia is she from?

[Jana]

There is no pronounced division between Northern and Southern Russians, it's just a gradient. Northern Russians don't look like Sami. That's a forum myth (or rather stereotype).
Slavic Russian = ethnic Russian.

I think you misundersod. I didn't have Saami in mind but rather Finns or Estonians. She isn't blond and she looks lot more east than north European.
She also has typical Slavic Neo-Danubian/Baltid features. I wanted to say she looks very stereotypical Slavic.

Could be Ukrainian or Belarusian easily as well, or east Polish.

[Leto]

I think you misundersod. I didn't have Saami in mind but rather Finns or Estonians. She isn't blond and she looks lot more east than north European.
She also has typical Slavic Neo-Dabnubian/Baltid features. I wanted to say she looks very stereotypical Slavic.

Could be Ukrainian or Belarusian easily as well, or east Polish.
Okay. Where is she from?

[Leto]

I don't want to hijack the thread with offtopic discussions, sorry.

[Reis-i Cumhur]

Turkified Greek.Myheritage is shit.It recognizes his greek genes as italian

[Jana]

Okay. Where is she from?

Commonsense say from your region.

[CommonSense]

Commonsense say from your region.

Her father is from St Petersburg and her mother from Vologda.

[Leto]

Her father is from St Petersburg and her mother from Vologda.
Not my region but my guess was right (I was thinkin' of Vologda). SPb is a big city that has sucked in all kinds of people but I guess her parents were similar.

[porpozontokonto]

pontos pro. most trabzonians are turkified hellenized caucasians. this guy is a real greek settler. i bet you can track his ancestry down to miletus in 800 bc or some shit.

[Marmara]

There is absolutely no way that a real local from Trabzon would have such result. There must be a story behind this result that she isn't aware of.

[Aileron]

There is absolutely no way that a real local from Trabzon would have such result. There must be a story behind this result that she isn't aware of.

Probably mixed with Rumeli Turks

[Bornoz]

Probably mixed with Rumeli Turks

Brom sen bu bölgede hiçbir şekilde %50 Ermeni + %50 Katalan gibi bi sonuç elde edemezsin. Trabzonluyu istersen Yunanla birleştir istersen Rusla birleştir. Bu kişi yarı Kuzey İtalyalı besbelli.

[Aileron]

Brom sen bu bölgede hiçbir şekilde %50 Ermeni + %50 Katalan gibi bi sonuç elde edemez. Trabzonluyu istersen Yunanla birleştir istersen Rusla birleştir. Bu kişi yarı Kuzey İtalyalı besbelli.

Dostum dediğin gibidir o zaman genetikten çokta anlamıyorum zaten :)

[Pine]

I already debunked this a few pages back.

[Leto]

A real Trabzon man. You guys can run this through Vahaduo.

Gedrosia 16.38
Northwest_African 0.57
Atlantic_Med 9.52
North_European 6.21
Southwest_Asian 11.22
Caucasus 56.1

Baloch 17.3
Caucasian 57.51
NE-Euro 5.25
American 0.2
Beringian 0.2
Mediterranean 8.72
SW-Asian 10.66
Pygmy 0.17

[Noble Cuman]

Looks like half North Italian+half Black Sea. His high west med and high north atlantic indicates it. If this person had Balkan ancestry he would score much more Baltic and less north atlantic. Maybe Levantine merchant romance?