View Full Version : Transylvanian/Romanian GEDmatch Results
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 09:01 PM
After similar threads for Romania's Moldavia + Republic of Moldova (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318490-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Resuts&p=6609024&viewfull=1#post6609024) and Wallachia (Muntenia + Oltenia) (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?319213-Wallachian-Romanian-GEDmatch-Results&p=6606525&viewfull=1#post6606525), it is time to take a look at the genetic profile in Transylvania.
Transylvania (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvania), in its broadest term, and the one that I'm using for the purpose of this thread, encompasses the historic regions of:
Central and Eastern parts - Transylvania proper
Northwestern - Maramures
Western - Crisana
Southwestern - Banat
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Romania_historic_regions.svg
Eurogenes K13 results:
Yellow - Transylvania proper
Green - Maramures
Red - Crisana
Blue - Banat
v1
https://i.imgur.com/NidcBJT.png
Great job again, Ion!
Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 10:06 PM
Great job again, Ion!
Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.
Yes, I think the same, but I don't have any proofs in this case. The county should also be changed to Satu Mare. I'll fix that in the next update.
Amazing work! :thumb001:
Szekely samples are mixed or fully Hungarian?
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 10:13 PM
Amazing work! :thumb001:
Szekely samples are mixed or fully Hungarian?
No, they are not mixed, at least recently.
Daco Celtic is half Irish and I know he wouldn't mind being added
Ancestry DNA data
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.75
2 Baltic 19.59
3 West_Med 15.69
4 East_Med 12.18
5 West_Asian 9.31
6 Amerindian 1.06
7 South_Asian 0.86
8 Siberian 0.46
9 Oceanian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.22
2 French 6.49
3 South_Dutch 6.67
4 Austrian 10.55
5 Southeast_English 11.81
6 North_German 12.38
7 Spanish_Cataluna 12.71
8 East_German 12.94
9 Hungarian 13.46
10 Southwest_English 13.5
11 Portuguese 13.61
12 Danish 13.82
13 Orcadian 13.89
14 North_Dutch 13.94
15 Spanish_Galicia 14.17
16 Serbian 14.25
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.27
18 Irish 14.68
19 Spanish_Murcia 15.01
20 West_Scottish 15.08
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Southeast_English + 29.3% Central_Greek @ 2.28
2 67.1% Orcadian + 32.9% Central_Greek @ 2.3
3 83.7% West_German + 16.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
4 63.8% Orcadian + 36.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.32
5 69.2% Orcadian + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.32
6 86.9% West_German + 13.1% South_Italian @ 2.39
7 67.6% Southeast_English + 32.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.47
8 79.1% Southeast_English + 20.9% Cyprian @ 2.49
9 65.3% West_Scottish + 34.7% Central_Greek @ 2.52
10 90.6% West_German + 9.4% Cyprian @ 2.53
11 91.5% West_German + 8.5% Armenian @ 2.55
12 65.9% Irish + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.55
13 86.1% West_German + 13.9% Central_Greek @ 2.59
14 69.2% North_Dutch + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.6
15 91.6% West_German + 8.4% Assyrian @ 2.61
16 76.2% Orcadian + 23.8% Cyprian @ 2.63
17 68% Irish + 32% South_Italian @ 2.64
18 72.7% Southeast_English + 27.3% South_Italian @ 2.66
19 69.4% Danish + 30.6% South_Italian @ 2.66
20 88.8% West_German + 11.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.66
No, they are not mixed, at least recently.
Just like I guessed. I am suprised how high in Baltic they are, also other Transylvanian Hungarians, pretty different from local Romanians.
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 10:22 PM
Just like I guessed. I am suprised how high in Baltic they are, also other Transylvanian Hungarians, pretty different from local Romanians.
In the past, religion used to segregate people, so Romanians generally didn't mix with Hungarians and the mountainous terrain additionally helped to create a barrier between the two. Nowadays it's obviously different.
IrisSelene (imputed V3 kit)
Population
North_Atlantic 23.62 Pct
Baltic 30.49 Pct
West_Med 16.36 Pct
West_Asian 11.74 Pct
East_Med 13.78 Pct
Red_Sea 0.35 Pct
South_Asian 0.64 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 1.57 Pct
Amerindian 0.47 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.23 Pct
Coastal Elite
04-05-2020, 10:38 PM
Relative from Fagaras, Brasov. Full Transylvanian to the best of my knowledge.
k-13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.07
2 Baltic 23.78
3 West_Med 16.99
4 East_Med 16.06
5 West_Asian 11.66
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 South_Asian 1.78
8 Amerindian 0.87
9 Siberian 0.85
10 Oceanian 0.65
11 Sub-Saharan 0.19
12 Northeast_African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.35
2 Serbian 4.62
3 Bulgarian 4.89
4 Moldavian 10.26
5 Hungarian 12.03
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.18
7 Croatian 13.07
8 Austrian 14.38
9 North_Italian 15.33
10 Tuscan 16.02
11 East_German 16.31
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.56
13 West_German 17.66
14 French 18.06
15 Central_Greek 18.88
16 South_Dutch 19.24
17 West_Sicilian 19.29
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.52
19 Portuguese 19.64
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.08
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Brahmin_UP @ 1.83
2 97.2% Romanian + 2.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 1.86
3 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Gujarati @ 1.88
4 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Kshatriya @ 1.88
5 98% Romanian + 2% Kanjar @ 1.91
6 98% Romanian + 2% Dharkar @ 1.91
7 98% Romanian + 2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 1.91
8 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kurumba @ 1.91
9 63.4% Moldavian + 36.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
10 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kol @ 1.92
11 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Irish @ 1.92
12 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Piramalai @ 1.93
13 97.8% Romanian + 2.2% Bangladeshi @ 1.93
14 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Dusadh @ 1.93
15 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Sakilli @ 1.93
16 95.5% Romanian + 4.5% West_Scottish @ 1.93
17 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Kalash @ 1.93
18 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% North_Kannadi @ 1.94
19 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Chamar @ 1.94
20 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Velamas @ 1.94
Nurzat
04-05-2020, 10:43 PM
Great job again, Ion!
Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.
all the northwestern area of Maramuresh county is Rusyn territory, Rusyn/Hutsul villages. in Sighet there's a full Ukrainian-language high-school for those Rusyns. also in Maramures it's the seat of the Union of the Ukrainians in Romania and also the seat of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Romania. my home village is in the Maramures-Bucovina Ukrainian-inhabited continuum in Romania.
as I was explaining elsewhere, the people in the villages are Ukrainian ethnics but whenever one of them moves away he voluntarily Romanianizes, sometimes not even mentioning to friends that in his home village people speak Ukrainian. so you can get these half-Ukrainian Romanians with one Ukrainian parent, and for example if the father is Romanian you will think where does he get his Baltic from, since he has Romanian last name, but it's the Ukrainian mother maybe. I've known plenty of cases in Cluj and Suceava as well like this. of course, maybe it's not the case here, but just to let you know of your Russkie brothers from the Carpathians in Romania.
at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"
the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.
Aspirin
04-05-2020, 10:59 PM
Great job again, Ion!
Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.
Maramures is the most Slavic admixed region in Transylvania, in which mixing has been ongoing since the Middle Ages till today.
Coastal Elite
04-05-2020, 11:05 PM
all the northwestern area of Maramuresh county is Rusyn territory, Rusyn/Hutsul villages. in Sighet there's a full Ukrainian-language high-school for those Rusyns. also in Maramures it's the seat of the Union of the Ukrainians in Romania and also the seat of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Romania. my home village is in the Maramures-Bucovina Ukrainian-inhabited continuum in Romania.
as I was explaining elsewhere, the people in the villages are Ukrainian ethnics but whenever one of them moves away he voluntarily Romanianizes, sometimes not even mentioning to friends that in his home village people speak Ukrainian. so you can get these half-Ukrainian Romanians with one Ukrainian parent, and for example if the father is Romanian you will think where does he get his Baltic from, since he has Romanian last name, but it's the Ukrainian mother maybe. I've known plenty of cases in Cluj and Suceava as well like this. of course, maybe it's not the case here, but just to let you know of your Russkie brothers from the Carpathians in Romania.
at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"
the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.
Which towns exactly in Maramureș? My last name came from north central Maramures in the 12th/13th century but has no ties to Ukrainians.
Aspirin
04-05-2020, 11:13 PM
at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"
the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.
How many will be in Suceava and Botoșani?
Transylvania proper Romanians seems pretty close to Wallachians, correct me if wrong?
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 11:18 PM
Transylvania proper Romanians seems pretty close to Wallachians, correct me if wrong?
They are intermediate between Wallachians and Moldavians. Look for the averages at the bottom.
Aspirin
04-05-2020, 11:22 PM
Transylvania proper Romanians seems pretty close to Wallachians, correct me if wrong?
Intermediate, I think only Southern Transylvanians are close to Wallachians, these ones from the far north (some of them) score high Baltic and low East Med, and look like Moldo/Ukro mixes from RM.
all the northwestern area of Maramuresh county is Rusyn territory, Rusyn/Hutsul villages. in Sighet there's a full Ukrainian-language high-school for those Rusyns. also in Maramures it's the seat of the Union of the Ukrainians in Romania and also the seat of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Romania. my home village is in the Maramures-Bucovina Ukrainian-inhabited continuum in Romania.
as I was explaining elsewhere, the people in the villages are Ukrainian ethnics but whenever one of them moves away he voluntarily Romanianizes, sometimes not even mentioning to friends that in his home village people speak Ukrainian. so you can get these half-Ukrainian Romanians with one Ukrainian parent, and for example if the father is Romanian you will think where does he get his Baltic from, since he has Romanian last name, but it's the Ukrainian mother maybe. I've known plenty of cases in Cluj and Suceava as well like this. of course, maybe it's not the case here, but just to let you know of your Russkie brothers from the Carpathians in Romania.
at the last census Maramures county had:
"Ukrainians (including Hutsuls and other Rusyns) - 6.77% (or 31,234)"
the real number is maybe double, people usually avoid declaring themselves Ukrainian, they fear of ties with Russia or not to have legal consequences (out of ignorance and poor information from the state). it's an entirely rural area.
Cool. That individual is similar to Daos who is half xoxol and 25% Polish.
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 11:27 PM
Transylvania_proper_average,23.98,26.24,17.43,9.61 ,17.51,1.68,0.64,0.62,1.13,0.54,0.40,0.09,0.12
Moldavia_average,23.95,27.75,16.63,9.82,16.58,1.48 ,0.60,0.47,1.34,0.60,0.46,0.16,0.16
R.Moldova_average,24.02,29.09,16.48,9.92,14.66,1.8 6,0.59,0.57,1.48,0.64,0.43,0.16,0.10
Wallachia_average,22.68,24.86,17.47,11.15,18.47,2. 11,0.71,0.70,0.85,0.41,0.36,0.16,0.06
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 11:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/HxlO2Kp.png
Transylvania_proper_average,23.98,26.24,17.43,9.61 ,17.51,1.68,0.64,0.62,1.13,0.54,0.40,0.09,0.12
Moldavia_average,23.95,27.75,16.63,9.82,16.58,1.48 ,0.60,0.47,1.34,0.60,0.46,0.16,0.16
R.Moldova_average,24.02,29.09,16.48,9.92,14.66,1.8 6,0.59,0.57,1.48,0.64,0.43,0.16,0.10
Wallachia_average,22.68,24.86,17.47,11.15,18.47,2. 11,0.71,0.70,0.85,0.41,0.36,0.16,0.06
Both Moldavian averages are similar.
Aspirin told me Moldavians are a different ethnic group, so I think they should treat the 8 counties as the Irish Republicans treat the 6 counties aka Northern Ireland :cool:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Romania_counties.png/640px-Romania_counties.png
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 11:44 PM
Both Moldavian averages are similar.
Aspirin told me Moldavians are a different ethnic group, so I think they should treat the 8 counties as the Irish Republicans treat the 6 counties aka Northern Ireland :cool:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Romania_counties.png/640px-Romania_counties.png
We are similar to those in Romania genetically, but culturally there are regional differences. That's normal.
We are similar to those in Romania genetically, but culturally there are regional differences. That's normal.
Which parts of Romania is the K13 average for Romania based on?
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.49
2 North_Atlantic 24.37
3 East_Med 18.04
4 West_Med 17.09
5 West_Asian 11.28
6 Red_Sea 2.14
7 Siberian 0.83
8 Amerindian 0.60
9 South_Asian 0.55
10 East_Asian 0.27
11 Oceanian 0.18
12 Northeast_African 0.09
13 Sub_Saharan 0.06
Ion Basescul
04-05-2020, 11:50 PM
Which parts of Romania is the K13 average for Romania based on?
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.49
2 North_Atlantic 24.37
3 East_Med 18.04
4 West_Med 17.09
5 West_Asian 11.28
6 Red_Sea 2.14
7 Siberian 0.83
8 Amerindian 0.60
9 South_Asian 0.55
10 East_Asian 0.27
11 Oceanian 0.18
12 Northeast_African 0.09
13 Sub_Saharan 0.06
No idea, as I never asked, but if I were to guess, I'd say a mix of Wallachia with Transylvania or Moldavia, where Wallachian samples were dominant.
Nurzat
04-06-2020, 07:57 AM
How many will be in Suceava and Botoșani?
Botosani apart from a couple of villages is left to historical population only. a best friend is from such a village where they all got Ukrainian last names and the situation is: grandparents spoke Ukr, parents understand it and spoke it minimally, maybe when they didn't need to be understood, and kids (those 25-40 years old) don't speak it at all. these now have their own kids who probably won't even know their greatgrandparents spoke Ukr. and this happened across Botosani county in the past decades. anyway in Botosani from the start there was this situation of Ruthenian enclaves, the villages were scattered, not compact, so they had neighbour Romanian (Moldovan) villages with which they mixed (parents generation still mostly married in neighbour villages, not farther).
Suceava had 8,514 officially at the census but as I've explained on my class/pass thread recently, it faces some strange opposition to census. over 90% of the Ukrainians on there are from remote mountain area of Hutsulschyna and they have strong local identity (Hutsuls) so they refuse to call themselves Ukrainian at the census and don't call themselves Hutsul either (at the census), because this way they would be counted as Ukrainian officially. they've got their Hutsul Union that is more like an ONG/cultural union, no political recognition. because of Romania-Russia relations people fear of being associated with Russians (East Slavs). they do speak the language in their villages, have partial Ukrainian language schooling and bilingual Ukrainian/Romanian road signs but you get awkward situations where villages like Breaza (all-Ukrainian/Hutsul) have 0 (zero) Ukrainians at the census. if you stop now there to buy something at a store or enter a bar there no one speaks Romanian (between themselves I mean, otherwise they do speak native-level Romanian if they need it with Romanians, like any other minority in Romania, including most Hungarians).
I remember how at county-level contests during high-school we immediately made friends when we gathered in Suceava or other place, the youth from Ukrainian-speaking villages, and that's when I was surprised to see Ukrainian youth from outside the mountains (near Suceava) still speaking it natively, and some of those villages show nothing (<100 or so) in the census. another good example is Milisauti, which is a town now I think, where many people speak Ukr but are Romanian at the census. I met a young doctor our age from there, I mentioned that I know the village was historically Ukr and he was able to speak in native local dialect without any problem. I had asked him about roots because of his last name, of Boyko origin like mine.
the rest of Ukrainians are in Dobrudja (native Hohols) and in Banat (not native to Banat, all are Rusyns and Hutsuls transferred by Communists from Maramures and Bucovina).
you can check the Union's website for events and such - with Russian you should be able to understand Ukrainian, they're dialects of the same Rus' language after all xD
uur.ro (https://uur.ro/?lang=uk)
also, keep in mind that the Maramures-Suceava Ukrainian settlement is a continuum, villages are not scattered among Romanian villages like in Rep. Moldova so the mixing only started very recently, in the last generation (my age), otherwise the people had their entire region of a few hundred villages and hamlets to marry in. and we had yearly gatherings that now are transformed into generic festivals but back then were to discuss business (cattle and hay and potato xD) and marriage and see relatives and friends from far villages.
Ion Basescul
04-06-2020, 10:47 AM
Any guesses on her ancestry with K13? From Timisoara
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Nurzat
04-06-2020, 10:57 AM
in Timisoara she can be anything, if she's not Romanian ethnic (she totally passes as one also), but if smth else, most likely: Hungarian, German, Serb, Ukrainian (of those moved from MM & SV counties), in this order. Gorid?
Ion Basescul
04-06-2020, 10:59 AM
^^^^ Hungarian?
Half Roma, Half Romanian; that's why phenotypes can be trashy in predicting someone's ancestry
North_Atlantic 22.35 Pct
Baltic 20.15 Pct
West_Med 13.06 Pct
West_Asian 12.28 Pct
East_Med 17.50 Pct
Red_Sea 2.54 Pct
South_Asian 10.81 Pct
East_Asian 0.72 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.57 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Romanian-b (Behar) from Harrapaworld is full Gypsy (25% South Indian)
And she gets modelled best as:
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-b_behar +50% serbian_harappa @ 4.086702
Wow, amazing. She looks totally central European, common face in Croatia as well. Never, never would have guessed that. She looks more mainstream European than average full Balkanite.
Ion Basescul
04-06-2020, 11:02 AM
Wow, amazing. She looks totally central European, common face in Croatia as well. Never, never would have guessed that. She looks more mainstream European than average full Balkanite.
Neither would I, but it's her 100%, as it's traced via her personal email address from GEDmatch. She's a tour guide in Timisoara and uses that email address on her personal website.
Yes, really great example how we should never guess origins based on phenotype. I saw example of very non white looking Brits who ended up fully Isles genetically posted on Reddit.
Nurzat
04-06-2020, 11:11 AM
Yes, really great example how we should never guess origins based on phenotype. I saw example of very non white looking Brits who ended up fully Isles genetically posted on Reddit.
I know some people here in Romania (and I've heard it from some foreigners also) that think that if they are blond or look a bit German or Slavic they ARE that thing. common people don't understand they're still genetically most similar to their co-ethnics, even if one is blond and one is brunet or even olive-skinned etc. I've got many times people saying wow but I look more Russian than you, you cannot be Russkie xD so if they are NeoDanubian or such, which is very popular in northeast Romania, they think they really are more Slavic than brunet Ukrainians/Russian/etc.
a mixed colleague that got the looks from her dad was saying us how she has all genes from dad and nothing from mom, with a sort of pride to it and didn't accept that the visible, the phenotype, is so so tiny chunk of her DNA and that she's around half her mom's side genetics too - she even got offended hearing that and didn't accept it xD
I know some people here in Romania that think that if they are blond or look a bit German or Slavic they ARE that thing. common people don't understand they're still genetically most similar to their co-ethnics, even if one is blond and one is brunet or even olive-skinned etc. I've got many times people saying wow but I look more Russian than you, you cannot be Russkie xD so if they are NeoDanubian or such, which is very popular in northeast Romania, they think they really are more Slavic than brunet Ukrainians/Russian/etc.
a mixed colleague that got the looks from her dad was saying us how she has all genes from dad and nothing from mom, with a sort of pride to it and didn't accept that the visible, the phenotype, is so so tiny chunk of her DNA and that she's around half her mom's side genetics too - she even got offended hearing that and didn't accept it xD
Typical Balkan ignorance. My dad say he can't be Slavic because he isn't Baltid, he doesn't understand he is mostly Slavic genetically because he isn't Russian looking.
Or for example if somebody is heavy dinaric he/she will be called Vlach, German looking person will be declared Norse by origin etc.
LOL. All of these people have similar DNA and ancestors, phenotype is just a lottery and in one person one part of genome will be expressed, in other second etc.
Ion Basescul
04-06-2020, 12:19 PM
Two persons from Alba county, not related (will be in the next update)
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.19
2 North_Atlantic 23.65
3 West_Med 19.88
4 East_Med 15.76
5 West_Asian 9.4
6 Siberian 3.16
7 Red_Sea 2.95
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.55
2 Serbian 5.73
3 Bulgarian 5.93
4 Moldavian 10.23
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.73
6 Hungarian 12.93
7 Croatian 13.02
8 Austrian 15.33
9 North_Italian 15.49
10 Tuscan 16.44
11 East_German 16.98
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.76
13 French 19.04
14 West_German 19.23
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.25
16 Central_Greek 19.57
17 Portuguese 19.77
18 West_Sicilian 19.84
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.99
20 South_Polish 20.17
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.7% Tuscan + 36.3% Erzya @ 2.98
2 62.5% Moldavian + 37.5% Tuscan @ 3.46
3 67.1% Moldavian + 32.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.69
4 62.7% Tuscan + 37.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.8
5 89.7% Serbian + 10.3% Sardinian @ 3.89
6 50.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.95
7 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Selkup @ 3.97
8 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Dolgan @ 3.97
9 97.6% Romanian + 2.4% Evens @ 3.98
10 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Evenki @ 3.99
11 50.9% West_Sicilian + 49.1% Ukrainian @ 4
12 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Yakut @ 4
13 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Ket @ 4.01
14 94.9% Romanian + 5.1% Sardinian @ 4.1
15 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Oroqen @ 4.1
16 61.1% Croatian + 38.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.11
17 97.6% Romanian + 2.4% Koryak @ 4.14
18 95.1% Romanian + 4.9% Mari @ 4.14
19 97.3% Romanian + 2.7% Tuvinian @ 4.15
20 58% West_Sicilian + 42% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.17
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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26
2 North_Atlantic 24.08
3 East_Med 19.18
4 West_Med 17.69
5 West_Asian 9.73
6 Red_Sea 1.58
7 South_Asian 0.91
8 Oceanian 0.75
9 Amerindian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.64
2 Bulgarian 3.59
3 Serbian 4.75
4 Moldavian 10.47
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.66
6 Hungarian 12.75
7 Croatian 12.97
8 Austrian 15.56
9 North_Italian 16.11
10 Tuscan 16.34
11 East_German 17.32
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.04
13 Central_Greek 18.75
14 West_Sicilian 19.3
15 West_German 19.49
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.51
17 French 19.83
18 East_Sicilian 19.96
19 South_Polish 20.07
20 Ukrainian 20.65
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% South_Polish @ 1.74
2 59% Bulgarian + 41% Serbian @ 1.96
3 85.2% Bulgarian + 14.8% East_German @ 1.99
4 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Hungarian @ 2.07
5 84.1% Bulgarian + 15.9% Austrian @ 2.11
6 52.7% Greek_Thessaly + 47.3% Croatian @ 2.14
7 90.6% Bulgarian + 9.4% North_Swedish @ 2.16
8 90.8% Bulgarian + 9.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.18
9 67.3% Greek_Thessaly + 32.7% Polish @ 2.19
10 53.4% South_Polish + 46.6% South_Italian @ 2.22
11 87.7% Bulgarian + 12.3% South_Polish @ 2.26
12 82.2% Bulgarian + 17.8% Croatian @ 2.29
13 91% Bulgarian + 9% Swedish @ 2.32
14 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Polish @ 2.34
15 64.2% Greek_Thessaly + 35.8% Ukrainian @ 2.35
16 91.9% Bulgarian + 8.1% Estonian @ 2.35
17 64.2% Croatian + 35.8% South_Italian @ 2.4
18 90.9% Bulgarian + 9.1% Belorussian @ 2.4
19 51.7% Central_Greek + 48.3% South_Polish @ 2.42
20 72.8% Greek_Thessaly + 27.2% Estonian @ 2.43
Coastal Elite
04-06-2020, 11:38 PM
Target: Daco
Distance: 4.9554% / 4.95542330
52.4 Irish
47.6 Transylvania_proper_average
Target: Daco
Distance: 4.9556% / 4.95557478 | ADC: 0.25x
52.6 Irish
47.4 Transylvania_proper_average
Luke35
04-06-2020, 11:43 PM
Target: Daco
Distance: 4.9554% / 4.95542330
52.4 Irish
47.6 Transylvania_proper_average
Target: Daco
Distance: 4.9556% / 4.95557478 | ADC: 0.25x
52.6 Irish
47.4 Transylvania_proper_average
Finally.
Luke35
04-06-2020, 11:54 PM
Target: Daco
Distance: 4.9554% / 4.95542330
52.4 Irish
47.6 Transylvania_proper_average
Target: Daco
Distance: 4.9556% / 4.95557478 | ADC: 0.25x
52.6 Irish
47.4 Transylvania_proper_average
My long lost brother!
Target: G
Distance: 2.2247% / 2.22469158
53.8 Irish
46.2 Transylvania_proper_average
Target: G
Distance: 2.2263% / 2.22628924 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Irish
46.0 Transylvania_proper_average
Coastal Elite
04-07-2020, 12:24 AM
My long lost brother!
Target: G
Distance: 2.2247% / 2.22469158
53.8 Irish
46.2 Transylvania_proper_average
Target: G
Distance: 2.2263% / 2.22628924 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Irish
46.0 Transylvania_proper_average
https://i.imgur.com/GrkXeTe.gif
Ion Basescul
04-14-2020, 08:15 PM
I managed to extract the academic samples from Transylvania (Alba county) that David Reich compiled in his lab (https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/downloadable-genotypes-present-day-and-ancient-dna-data-compiled-published-papers).
Here's how they compare against the other samples from Alba county that we found.
https://i.imgur.com/NPNKxxV.png
Coastal Elite
04-14-2020, 09:10 PM
Relative from Fagaras, Brasov. Full Transylvanian to the best of my knowledge.
k-13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.07
2 Baltic 23.78
3 West_Med 16.99
4 East_Med 16.06
5 West_Asian 11.66
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 South_Asian 1.78
8 Amerindian 0.87
9 Siberian 0.85
10 Oceanian 0.65
11 Sub-Saharan 0.19
12 Northeast_African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.35
2 Serbian 4.62
3 Bulgarian 4.89
4 Moldavian 10.26
5 Hungarian 12.03
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.18
7 Croatian 13.07
8 Austrian 14.38
9 North_Italian 15.33
10 Tuscan 16.02
11 East_German 16.31
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.56
13 West_German 17.66
14 French 18.06
15 Central_Greek 18.88
16 South_Dutch 19.24
17 West_Sicilian 19.29
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.52
19 Portuguese 19.64
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.08
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Brahmin_UP @ 1.83
2 97.2% Romanian + 2.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 1.86
3 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Gujarati @ 1.88
4 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Kshatriya @ 1.88
5 98% Romanian + 2% Kanjar @ 1.91
6 98% Romanian + 2% Dharkar @ 1.91
7 98% Romanian + 2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 1.91
8 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kurumba @ 1.91
9 63.4% Moldavian + 36.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
10 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kol @ 1.92
11 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Irish @ 1.92
12 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Piramalai @ 1.93
13 97.8% Romanian + 2.2% Bangladeshi @ 1.93
14 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Dusadh @ 1.93
15 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Sakilli @ 1.93
16 95.5% Romanian + 4.5% West_Scottish @ 1.93
17 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Kalash @ 1.93
18 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% North_Kannadi @ 1.94
19 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Chamar @ 1.94
20 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Velamas @ 1.94
Continued
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.551623
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Moldavian +25% Polish @ 2.178683
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Assyrian + Croatian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 1.134130
2 Assyrian + Croatian + South_Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.332502
3 Assyrian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.363480
4 Assyrian + Moldavian + Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.431618
5 Assyrian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.433481
6 Assyrian + Croatian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 1.481623
7 Assyrian + Croatian + Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.528684
8 Lithuanian + Romanian + Spanish_Valencia + Turkish @ 1.539381
9 Assyrian + Croatian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.549948
10 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Turkish @ 1.599542
11 Assyrian + Croatian + Estonian_Polish + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.600937
12 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cantabria + Turkish @ 1.614026
13 Assyrian + Croatian + Polish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.627902
14 Assyrian + South_Polish + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian @ 1.631067
15 Croatian + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 1.632446
16 Assyrian + Lithuanian + Serbian + Southwest_French @ 1.654103
17 Assyrian + Hungarian + Southwest_French + Southwest_Russian @ 1.684411
18 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_French + Turkish @ 1.694054
19 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Southwest_French + Turkish @ 1.718240
20 Assyrian + Croatian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.727337
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 17.38
2 Atlantic 14.79
3 Baltic 14.6
4 West_Med 13.82
5 East_Med 12.54
6 West_Asian 11.56
7 Eastern_Euro 10.17
8 Red_Sea 2.02
9 South_Asian 1.62
10 Amerindian 0.55
11 Oceanian 0.48
12 Siberian 0.29
13 Northeast_African 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.05
2 Serbian 4.91
3 Bulgarian 5.5
4 Moldavian 9.29
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.09
6 Hungarian 11.25
7 Croatian 11.53
8 Austrian 11.8
9 Greek 12.84
10 Tuscan 14.29
11 North_Italian 14.33
12 East_German 14.92
13 Italian_Abruzzo 16.14
14 French 16.82
15 Central_Greek 17.24
16 Ashkenazi 17.25
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.35
18 Spanish_Galicia 17.57
19 West_German 17.86
20 South_Dutch 17.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Moldavian + 36% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.45
2 92.2% Romanian + 7.8% West_German @ 2.66
3 92.4% Romanian + 7.6% French @ 2.73
4 92.8% Romanian + 7.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.74
5 61.3% Moldavian + 38.7% Tuscan @ 2.76
6 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.78
7 98% Romanian + 2% Gujarati @ 2.8
8 94.9% Romanian + 5.1% Southwest_English @ 2.8
9 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Norwegian @ 2.8
10 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% West_Norwegian @ 2.8
11 97.9% Romanian + 2.1% Brahmin_UP @ 2.8
12 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Kol @ 2.8
13 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% Orcadian @ 2.8
14 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Kalash @ 2.81
15 98% Romanian + 2% Kshatriya @ 2.81
16 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Burusho @ 2.82
17 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.82
18 98.4% Romanian + 1.6% Dusadh @ 2.82
19 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Bangladeshi @ 2.82
20 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Dharkar @ 2.82
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanian +50% Romanian @ 3.451226
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +25% Romanian +25% Tuscan @ 3.008139
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 2.342990
2 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.347114
3 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.373032
4 Armenian + Moldavian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.393298
5 Kurdish + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 2.446564
6 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian_Lviv + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.480319
7 Moldavian + Spanish_Galicia + Turkish + Ukrainian @ 2.538101
8 Moldavian + Spanish_Galicia + Turkish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.602707
9 Armenian + Moldavian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 2.612052
10 Armenian + Croatian + Portuguese + Ukrainian @ 2.615440
11 Moldavian + Portuguese + Turkish + Ukrainian @ 2.616029
12 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.633990
13 Armenian + Hungarian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.658849
14 Armenian + Portuguese + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.661041
15 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + East_German + Moldavian @ 2.667048
16 Armenian + Spanish_Extremadura + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.667111
17 Kurdish + Lithuanian + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 2.683849
18 Moldavian + Portuguese + Turkish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.691943
19 Central_Greek + East_German + Moldavian + Romanian @ 2.713251
20 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.715545
I managed to extract the academic samples from Transylvania (Alba county) that David Reich compiled in his lab (https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/downloadable-genotypes-present-day-and-ancient-dna-data-compiled-published-papers).
Here's how they compare against the other samples from Alba county that we found.
https://i.imgur.com/NPNKxxV.png
Very similar, shows you have done a good job :)
Ion Basescul
06-04-2020, 11:31 AM
Full Saxon from Brasov
If he's typical then Saxons are mixed af with Romanians.
Most of his matches have German surnames. His top 5 matches are Romanians though.
Kreuzer (also has a German forename)
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
28.8
2
Baltic
23.9
3
West_Med
16.4
4
East_Med
15.81
5
West_Asian
11.34
6
Red_Sea
1.81
7
South_Asian
0.97
8
East_Asian
0.44
9
Amerindian
0.32
10
Oceanian
0.14
11
Northeast_African
0.08
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Serbian
4.01
2
Romanian
4.49
3
Bulgarian
7.35
4
Hungarian
10.22
5
Moldavian
10.72
6
Austrian
11.77
7
Croatian
12.66
8
East_German
14.02
9
Greek_Thessaly
14.19
10
West_German
14.62
11
North_Italian
14.7
12
French
15.38
13
South_Dutch
16.25
14
Tuscan
16.29
15
Portuguese
18.06
16
Spanish_Galicia
18.54
17
Italian_Abruzzo
18.59
18
Spanish_Cataluna
18.88
19
Ukrainian_Lviv
19.16
20
South_Polish
19.24
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
77.1%
Bulgarian
+
22.9%
Irish
@
1.09
2
77.6%
Bulgarian
+
22.4%
West_Scottish
@
1.18
3
85%
Romanian
+
15%
Irish
@
1.28
4
85.4%
Romanian
+
14.6%
West_Scottish
@
1.31
5
77.3%
Romanian
+
22.7%
West_German
@
1.33
6
84.7%
Romanian
+
15.3%
Southwest_English
@
1.34
7
75.7%
Bulgarian
+
24.3%
Danish
@
1.35
8
75.9%
Bulgarian
+
24.1%
North_Dutch
@
1.37
9
76.5%
Bulgarian
+
23.5%
Orcadian
@
1.41
10
83.7%
Romanian
+
16.3%
Southeast_English
@
1.41
11
73.6%
Bulgarian
+
26.4%
North_German
@
1.42
12
79.2%
Romanian
+
20.8%
South_Dutch
@
1.46
13
84.7%
Romanian
+
15.3%
Orcadian
@
1.49
14
66.9%
Bulgarian
+
33.1%
West_German
@
1.49
15
84.3%
Romanian
+
15.7%
North_Dutch
@
1.5
16
76.7%
Bulgarian
+
23.3%
Southwest_English
@
1.51
17
84.2%
Romanian
+
15.8%
Danish
@
1.52
18
75.3%
Bulgarian
+
24.7%
Southeast_English
@
1.58
19
82.7%
Romanian
+
17.3%
North_German
@
1.59
20
69.3%
Bulgarian
+
30.7%
South_Dutch
@
1.63
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Kreuzer
Distance: 2.4531% / 2.45305566 | ADC: 0.25x
70.8
Romania_Transylvania
22.4
German_West
4.8
Ashkenazi
2.0
Romani
0.0
East_German
0.0
German_east
0.0
Hungarian_Szekely
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Banat
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Kreuzer
Distance: 1.9656% / 1.96556330 | ADC: 0.25x
66.6
Romanian_Oltenia
21.2
German_West
10.8
Romania_Muntenia
0.8
Romani
0.6
Ashkenazi
0.0
East_German
0.0
German_east
0.0
Hungarian_Szekely
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_average
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0
Romania_Transylvania
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Maramures
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Banat
</tbody>
77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33
Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?
Ion Basescul
06-04-2020, 11:45 AM
77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33
Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?
What are you loling about if you don't know anything about them? Csangos are also mostly Romanians genetically, despite also having a full ethnic Hungarian cultural heritage.
That's K13.
77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33
Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?
His north atlantic is much higher than balic so yes he is obviously a Saxon (heavily mixed ofcourse)
77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33
Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?
His north atlantic is much higher than baltic so yes he is obviously a Saxon (heavily mixed ofcourse)
Ion Basescul
06-04-2020, 11:52 AM
Another full Transylvanian Saxon, this one is slightly more North-shifted
Verhuven
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
30.1
2
Baltic
26.02
3
West_Med
16.78
4
East_Med
14.7
5
West_Asian
7.59
6
Red_Sea
2.7
7
Amerindian
0.89
8
East_Asian
0.83
9
Sub-Saharan
0.37
10
Siberian
0.02
11
South_Asian
0.01
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Serbian
3.72
2
Romanian
6.82
3
Hungarian
7.85
4
Austrian
9.36
5
Bulgarian
9.63
6
Moldavian
9.66
7
Croatian
10.64
8
East_German
11.41
9
West_German
13.22
10
French
14.2
11
South_Dutch
14.67
12
North_Italian
15.58
13
Greek_Thessaly
16.63
14
South_Polish
16.99
15
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.05
16
Portuguese
17.45
17
Spanish_Galicia
17.7
18
Tuscan
18.01
19
Spanish_Cataluna
18.25
20
Ukrainian
18.27
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
81%
Serbian
+
19%
French
@
1.69
2
70.2%
Hungarian
+
29.8%
Tuscan
@
1.9
3
59.5%
East_German
+
40.5%
Greek_Thessaly
@
1.95
4
69.7%
East_German
+
30.3%
Ashkenazi
@
1.98
5
51.5%
South_Polish
+
48.5%
Tuscan
@
1.99
6
53.4%
Tuscan
+
46.6%
Polish
@
2
7
91.5%
Serbian
+
8.5%
French_Basque
@
2.01
8
87%
Serbian
+
13%
Southwest_French
@
2.02
9
87%
Serbian
+
13%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
2.06
10
85.4%
Serbian
+
14.6%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
2.06
11
86%
Serbian
+
14%
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
@
2.07
12
82.5%
Serbian
+
17.5%
South_Dutch
@
2.07
13
64.4%
Austrian
+
35.6%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.13
14
88.6%
Serbian
+
11.4%
Spanish_Aragon
@
2.14
15
74.9%
Hungarian
+
25.1%
West_Sicilian
@
2.16
16
85.3%
Serbian
+
14.7%
Spanish_Galicia
@
2.16
17
81.2%
Serbian
+
18.8%
West_German
@
2.17
18
88%
Serbian
+
12%
Southwest_English
@
2.19
19
74.4%
East_German
+
25.6%
Algerian_Jewish
@
2.2
20
87%
Serbian
+
13%
Southeast_English
@
2.21
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Verhuven
Distance: 2.5971% / 2.59705284 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2
Romania_Transylvania
22.0
German_West
21.6
Hungarian_Szekely
1.2
Ashkenazi
0.0
East_German
0.0
German_east
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Romani
0.0
Romania_Muntenia
0.0
Romanian_Oltenia
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Maramures
0.0
Romania_Banat
</tbody>
What are you loling about if you don't know anything about them? Csangos are also mostly Romanians genetically, despite also having a full ethnic Hungarian cultural heritage.
That's K13.
I'm lol'ing because he ain't like Germans of Germany. He is pretty much a Rumyn with some German :p
Ion Basescul
06-04-2020, 12:47 PM
I'm lol'ing because he ain't like Germans of Germany. He is pretty much a Rumyn with some German :p
They are not Jews, so I guess they mixed with whatever was available. Hungarians in Romania also look mixed with Romanians, compared to many of them from Hungary.
andre
06-04-2020, 01:01 PM
Another full Transylvanian Saxon, this one is slightly more North-shifted
Verhuven
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
30.1
2
Baltic
26.02
3
West_Med
16.78
4
East_Med
14.7
5
West_Asian
7.59
6
Red_Sea
2.7
7
Amerindian
0.89
8
East_Asian
0.83
9
Sub-Saharan
0.37
10
Siberian
0.02
11
South_Asian
0.01
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Serbian
3.72
2
Romanian
6.82
3
Hungarian
7.85
4
Austrian
9.36
5
Bulgarian
9.63
6
Moldavian
9.66
7
Croatian
10.64
8
East_German
11.41
9
West_German
13.22
10
French
14.2
11
South_Dutch
14.67
12
North_Italian
15.58
13
Greek_Thessaly
16.63
14
South_Polish
16.99
15
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.05
16
Portuguese
17.45
17
Spanish_Galicia
17.7
18
Tuscan
18.01
19
Spanish_Cataluna
18.25
20
Ukrainian
18.27
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
81%
Serbian
+
19%
French
@
1.69
2
70.2%
Hungarian
+
29.8%
Tuscan
@
1.9
3
59.5%
East_German
+
40.5%
Greek_Thessaly
@
1.95
4
69.7%
East_German
+
30.3%
Ashkenazi
@
1.98
5
51.5%
South_Polish
+
48.5%
Tuscan
@
1.99
6
53.4%
Tuscan
+
46.6%
Polish
@
2
7
91.5%
Serbian
+
8.5%
French_Basque
@
2.01
8
87%
Serbian
+
13%
Southwest_French
@
2.02
9
87%
Serbian
+
13%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
2.06
10
85.4%
Serbian
+
14.6%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
2.06
11
86%
Serbian
+
14%
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
@
2.07
12
82.5%
Serbian
+
17.5%
South_Dutch
@
2.07
13
64.4%
Austrian
+
35.6%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.13
14
88.6%
Serbian
+
11.4%
Spanish_Aragon
@
2.14
15
74.9%
Hungarian
+
25.1%
West_Sicilian
@
2.16
16
85.3%
Serbian
+
14.7%
Spanish_Galicia
@
2.16
17
81.2%
Serbian
+
18.8%
West_German
@
2.17
18
88%
Serbian
+
12%
Southwest_English
@
2.19
19
74.4%
East_German
+
25.6%
Algerian_Jewish
@
2.2
20
87%
Serbian
+
13%
Southeast_English
@
2.21
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Verhuven
Distance: 2.5971% / 2.59705284 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2
Romania_Transylvania
22.0
German_West
21.6
Hungarian_Szekely
1.2
Ashkenazi
0.0
East_German
0.0
German_east
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Romani
0.0
Romania_Muntenia
0.0
Romanian_Oltenia
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Maramures
0.0
Romania_Banat
</tbody>
Im quite shocked! I thought that they were pure west germans, wtf... and when they admix with romanians?
Ion Basescul
06-04-2020, 01:26 PM
I’m quite shocked! I thought that they were pure west germans, wtf... and when they admix with romanians?
I have emailed the project owner for more info about them just in case. But did no one post Transylvanian Saxon results before me?
I haven't seen any before personally, so I don't know how common those profiles are among them.
I’m quite shocked! I thought that they were pure west germans, wtf... and when they admix with romanians?
This. I also thought they'd be like Volga Germans. Modern Volga Germans are rarely pure but that started only after WW2 or around that time. Elderly people are mostly fully German. Young people are usually part Slavic or even Asian in some case (Kazakhstan).
Ion Basescul
06-04-2020, 01:32 PM
This. I also thought they'd be like Volga Germans. Modern Volga Germans are rarely pure but that started only after WW2 or around that time. Elderly people are mostly fully German. Young people are usually part Slavic or even Asian in some case (Kazakhstan).
Well, yes, but it's not really comparable considering that Saxons would have been in Transylvania for 600 years already, before those Germans would leave for Volga in the 18th century.
War Chef
06-04-2020, 02:01 PM
Would like to see what Popa from Cluj looks like. Almost 5% Siberian + eastAsian. :)
War Chef
06-04-2020, 02:06 PM
Maybe Klaus iohannis doesn't look Saxon after all but Slavic type
Coastal Elite
06-04-2020, 02:25 PM
What are you loling about if you don't know anything about them? Csangos are also mostly Romanians genetically, despite also having a full ethnic Hungarian cultural heritage.
That's K13.
Interesting how some Transylvanians adopted a single cultural identity despite being quite mixed. There have been academic papers on the phenomenon.
War Chef
06-04-2020, 02:29 PM
They are not Jews, so I guess they mixed with whatever was available. Hungarians in Romania also look mixed with Romanians, compared to many of them from Hungary.
This. I also thought they'd be like Volga Germans. Modern Volga Germans are rarely pure but that started only after WW2 or around that time. Elderly people are mostly fully German. Young people are usually part Slavic or even Asian in some case (Kazakhstan).
I don't blame them, hard not to mix with hot Slavic girls...esp Slavic girls looked better than their own German pig girls
Aspirin
06-04-2020, 02:29 PM
Maybe Klaus iohannis doesn't look Saxon after all but Slavic type
Iohannis looks uber-German, nothing Slavic, Balkanic or something else in him.
https://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/680xX/Jul2017/61901163.jpg
War Chef
06-04-2020, 02:31 PM
They are not Jews, so I guess they mixed with whatever was available. Hungarians in Romania also look mixed with Romanians, compared to many of them from Hungary.
Iohannis looks uber-German, nothing Slavic, Balkanic or something else in him.
https://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/680xX/Jul2017/61901163.jpg
Yeah but genetically he'd get only 15% west-German , like all the other Saxons are getting here. Maybe he has a little more
Ion Basescul
06-04-2020, 02:34 PM
Iohannis looks uber-German, nothing Slavic, Balkanic or something else in him.
https://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/680xX/Jul2017/61901163.jpg
The guy that's managing their kits doesn't look any less Germanic and he's only 1/8th Saxon.
andre
06-04-2020, 02:40 PM
@Ion_Basescul and me had the confirmation... these are Saxons results, they are catholic and they don’t have recent romanian ancestry.
Ion Basescul
06-05-2020, 10:37 AM
Romanian with urban roots from Brasov.
Wanna guess the ethnic background(s)?
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
26.30
2
North_Atlantic
20.43
3
West_Med
19.27
4
East_Med
17.15
5
West_Asian
12.74
6
South_Asian
1.68
7
Amerindian
1.19
8
East_Asian
1.12
</tbody>
Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 5.041081
2 Romanian @ 5.825646
3 Serbian @ 9.016556
4 Moldavian @ 12.091484
5 Greek_Thessaly @ 13.711340
6 Croatian @ 15.831957
7 Hungarian @ 17.183886
8 Tuscan @ 20.625196
9 North_Italian @ 20.635073
10 Austrian @ 20.780470
11 Central_Greek @ 21.316824
12 Italian_Abruzzo @ 21.338223
13 East_German @ 22.449434
14 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 22.846075
15 East_Sicilian @ 22.946505
16 West_Sicilian @ 22.992683
17 South_Polish @ 24.084063
18 Ukrainian @ 24.127159
19 Ashkenazi @ 25.247307
20 West_German @ 25.751122
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Moldavian @ 4.359043
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Kurdish +25% Sardinian @ 3.925886
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.972001
2 Armenian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.007333
3 Armenian + Belorussian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.261060
4 Armenian + Estonian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.304157
5 Armenian + Belorussian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.361835
6 Armenian + Belorussian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.402925
7 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.406133
8 Assyrian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.447694
9 Armenian + Estonian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.452339
10 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.456230
11 Georgian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.464409
12 Armenian + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 3.466836
13 Armenian + Belorussian + Belorussian + Sardinian @ 3.503344
14 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.504034
15 Estonian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.504707
16 Armenian + Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian @ 3.522140
17 Armenian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian @ 3.523874
18 Sardinian + Turkish + Ukrainian_Belgorod + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.525306
19 Azeri + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.537694
20 Armenian + Belorussian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 3.545475
andre
06-05-2020, 10:51 AM
Romanian with urban roots from Brasov.
Wanna guess the ethnic background(s)?
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
26.30
2
North_Atlantic
20.43
3
West_Med
19.27
4
East_Med
17.15
5
West_Asian
12.74
6
South_Asian
1.68
7
Amerindian
1.19
8
East_Asian
1.12
</tbody>
Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 5.041081
2 Romanian @ 5.825646
3 Serbian @ 9.016556
4 Moldavian @ 12.091484
5 Greek_Thessaly @ 13.711340
6 Croatian @ 15.831957
7 Hungarian @ 17.183886
8 Tuscan @ 20.625196
9 North_Italian @ 20.635073
10 Austrian @ 20.780470
11 Central_Greek @ 21.316824
12 Italian_Abruzzo @ 21.338223
13 East_German @ 22.449434
14 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 22.846075
15 East_Sicilian @ 22.946505
16 West_Sicilian @ 22.992683
17 South_Polish @ 24.084063
18 Ukrainian @ 24.127159
19 Ashkenazi @ 25.247307
20 West_German @ 25.751122
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Moldavian @ 4.359043
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Kurdish +25% Sardinian @ 3.925886
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.972001
2 Armenian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.007333
3 Armenian + Belorussian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.261060
4 Armenian + Estonian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.304157
5 Armenian + Belorussian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.361835
6 Armenian + Belorussian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.402925
7 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.406133
8 Assyrian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.447694
9 Armenian + Estonian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.452339
10 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.456230
11 Georgian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.464409
12 Armenian + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 3.466836
13 Armenian + Belorussian + Belorussian + Sardinian @ 3.503344
14 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.504034
15 Estonian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.504707
16 Armenian + Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian @ 3.522140
17 Armenian + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Ukrainian @ 3.523874
18 Sardinian + Turkish + Ukrainian_Belgorod + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.525306
19 Azeri + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.537694
20 Armenian + Belorussian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 3.545475
Romanian with greeks/armenian roots?
Ion Basescul
06-05-2020, 12:13 PM
Romanian with greeks/armenian roots?
Nope, 1/4 Romanian from Banat, 1/4 Brasov Transylvanian German (18th century migrants from Czechia), 1/4 Greek Islander born in Braila (both sides migrated from Egina), 1/8 Croat from Eastern Croatia, 1/8 Szekler from Harghita.
Paternally, the person inherited the Croat surname, but their grandpa changed it to the first name of their great-grandpa and added the "-escu" suffix to it. Now it looks like a regular Romanian surname.
Chris596
06-05-2020, 01:14 PM
Should I post my results here? Since half of my heritage is Transylvanian :)
Chris596
06-05-2020, 01:45 PM
Me (Szekely-Hungarian) I always have some Sub-Saharan between 0.30 - 1% so I guess it's not noise
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.18
2 North_Atlantic 25.01
3 East_Med 15.42
4 West_Med 15.39
5 West_Asian 10.49
6 East_Asian 1.62
7 Siberian 1.24
8 Sub-Saharan 0.36
9 Red_Sea 0.30
Mixed Mode:
1 53.52% Greek_Western-Macedonia + 46.48% Ukrainian @ 1.378
2 50.39% Macedonian_Greece + 49.61% Czech @ 1.499
3 50.39% Czech + 49.61% Macedonian_Greece @ 1.524
4 64.45% Macedonian_Greece + 35.55% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.715
5 65.23% Bosniak_Tuzla + 34.77% Turk_Kavala @ 1.812
6 53.52% Slovak + 46.48% Macedonian_Greece @ 1.871
7 50.39% Ukrainian + 49.61% Greek_Western-Macedonia @ 1.897
8 65.23% Bulgarian + 34.77% South_Polish @ 1.902
9 55.08% Macedonian_Greece + 44.92% German_east @ 1.956
10 50.39% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.61% Greek_Western-Thrace @ 1.960
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian_new @ 2.973
2 100% South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster @ 3.149
3 100% Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina @ 3.562
4 100% Bosnian @ 3.638
5 100% Serb_Croatia @ 3.710
6 100% Romanian_South_Central_Moldova @ 4.121
7 100% Serbian_Bosnia @ 4.449
8 100% Croat_Split @ 4.745
9 100% Szekely @ 5.045
10 100% Romanian_Botosani @ 5.363
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Macedonian_Greece + 50% Czech @ 1.507
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Bosniak_Tuzla + 33% Bosniak_Tuzla + 33% Turk_Kavala @ 1.845
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Austrian + 25% Ukrainian @ 1.509
2 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Austrian + 25% South_Polish @ 1.561
3 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Austrian + 25% Polish @ 1.798
4 25% Slovak + 25% Slovak + 25% Turk_Drama + 25% Greek_Northern-Thrace @ 1.814
5 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Austrian + 25% Southwest_Russian @ 1.851
6 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Austrian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.913
7 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Austrian + 25% Cossacks_Kuban @ 1.924
8 25% Slovak + 25% Slovak + 25% Turk_Drama + 25% Macedonian_Greece @ 1.964
9 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Macedonian_Greece + 25% Austrian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.066
10 25% Slovak + 25% Slovak + 25% Turk_Drama + 25% Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central @ 2.088
Balkanic and Turkic genes be stronk
17571imre
06-05-2020, 03:25 PM
very intresting results Chris! i will post my results too sice my Hungarian ancestry is from Transylvania Cluj and Misca:
#
Population
Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.34
2 Baltic 26.68
3 West_Med 16.69
4 East_Med 13.75
5 West_Asian 7.38
6 Siberian 1.18
7 Red_Sea 1.14
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 5.364091
2 Hungarian @ 7.407516
3 Austrian @ 9.007488
4 Romanian @ 9.410774
5 Moldavian @ 10.756059
6 East_German @ 11.308140
7 Croatian @ 11.431550
8 Bulgarian @ 12.770063
9 West_German @ 13.766875
10 South_Dutch @ 15.478471
11 French @ 15.511075
12 South_Polish @ 18.047672
13 North_Italian @ 18.387093
14 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 18.467993
15 North_German @ 19.598122
16 Ukrainian @ 19.696745
17 Portuguese @ 19.796000
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.033550
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.396305
20 Greek_Thessaly @ 20.899670
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +50% South_Polish @ 2.207133
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Southwest_Finnish +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.247280
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Belorussian + Bulgarian + North_Italian + West_German @ 1.014532
2 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + North_Italian + West_German @ 1.038113
3 North_Italian + Romanian + Southwest_Russian + West_German @ 1.067160
4 Bulgarian + North_Italian + South_Dutch + Southwest_Russian @ 1.069356
5 Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + North_Swedish + South_Polish @ 1.156701
6 Bulgarian + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.187407
7 Bulgarian + Estonian + Tuscan + West_German @ 1.220137
8 Central_Greek + Estonian + Hungarian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.231232
9 Bulgarian + North_Italian + Southwest_Russian + West_German @ 1.242971
10 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.247280
11 North_Italian + Romanian + South_Dutch + Southwest_Russian @ 1.249180
12 Bulgarian + Estonian + South_Dutch + Tuscan @ 1.269401
13 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 1.269647
14 Romanian + Serbian + South_Polish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.276617
15 Italian_Abruzzo + South_Polish + South_Polish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.302098
16 Belorussian + Bulgarian + North_Italian + South_Dutch @ 1.310480
17 Estonian_Polish + Romanian + South_Dutch + Tuscan @ 1.321346
18 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + North_Italian + South_Dutch @ 1.322845
19 Serbian + Tuscan + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.328700
20 Bulgarian + North_Italian + Russian_Smolensk + West_German @ 1.331283
17571imre
06-05-2020, 03:27 PM
my mothers results: 3/4 Hungarian/transylvania 1/4 Eastern Austria.
#
Population
Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.10
2 Baltic 29.77
3 West_Med 15.27
4 East_Med 12.98
5 West_Asian 5.13
6 Siberian 3.29
7 South_Asian 1.58
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 5.717447
2 Serbian @ 7.856081
3 Austrian @ 8.843225
4 Croatian @ 9.409844
5 Moldavian @ 9.731379
6 East_German @ 10.024478
7 Romanian @ 12.339784
8 South_Polish @ 14.887828
9 West_German @ 15.246737
10 Bulgarian @ 15.449568
11 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.563470
12 Ukrainian @ 16.445448
13 South_Dutch @ 16.739243
14 French @ 18.050386
15 Polish @ 19.204037
16 North_German @ 19.505255
17 North_Swedish @ 20.678423
18 Southwest_Russian @ 20.769527
19 Southwest_Finnish @ 21.495592
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 21.565897
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +50% Tuscan @ 3.221816
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% South_Italian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.981967
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + South_Polish + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.654088
2 East_Finnish + Estonian + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.693906
3 Bulgarian + East_Finnish + Hungarian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.720946
4 Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.747707
5 Greek_Thessaly + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.770044
6 Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + South_Polish + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.775605
7 Estonian + Finnish + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.782350
8 East_Finnish + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Valencia + Tuscan @ 2.784957
9 Belorussian + East_Finnish + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.785010
10 Ashkenazi + Estonian + Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.798463
11 East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + South_Polish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.816740
12 East_Finnish + Estonian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.838234
13 Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian @ 2.839438
14 Finnish + North_Italian + North_Italian + Southwest_Russian @ 2.853002
15 Central_Greek + Estonian + Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.870334
16 East_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia + Tuscan + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.871698
17 Belorussian + East_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Sicilian @ 2.878042
18 Ashkenazi + Estonian + Finnish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.885310
19 East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.893068
20 Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.908585
Kökény
06-05-2020, 05:05 PM
Can you add us too please?
Full Szekelys(Harghita county)
Me
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.96
2 Baltic 23.72
3 West_Med 14.7
4 East_Med 13.97
5 West_Asian 9.34
6 Siberian 2.65
7 East_Asian 1.69
8 Red_Sea 1.39
9 South_Asian 1.17
10 Oceanian 1.07
11 Amerindian 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.2
2 Romanian 7.16
3 Hungarian 8.84
4 Bulgarian 10.01
5 Austrian 10.37
6 Moldavian 10.6
7 Croatian 12.3
8 East_German 12.55
9 West_German 12.92
10 French 14.3
11 South_Dutch 14.53
12 North_Italian 15.82
13 Greek_Thessaly 16.59
14 Portuguese 17.83
15 Tuscan 17.91
16 South_Polish 18.17
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.21
18 North_German 18.23
19 Spanish_Galicia 18.26
20 Spanish_Cataluna 18.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% North_Swedish + 48.7% Central_Greek @ 2.57
2 56.9% Greek_Thessaly + 43.1% North_Swedish @ 2.84
3 53.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 46.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.9
4 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Orcadian @ 3.11
5 76.1% Romanian + 23.9% Danish @ 3.21
6 55.2% North_Swedish + 44.8% South_Italian @ 3.21
7 78.2% Romanian + 21.8% West_Scottish @ 3.22
8 52.5% North_Swedish + 47.5% East_Sicilian @ 3.24
9 76.4% Romanian + 23.6% North_Dutch @ 3.27
10 69.2% Bulgarian + 30.8% Orcadian @ 3.28
11 66.3% Romanian + 33.7% West_German @ 3.29
12 77.9% Romanian + 22.1% Irish @ 3.3
13 77.8% Romanian + 22.2% Norwegian @ 3.31
14 73.9% Romanian + 26.1% North_German @ 3.33
15 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Danish @ 3.35
16 71.4% Hungarian + 28.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.35
17 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Southeast_English @ 3.37
18 69.2% Romanian + 30.8% South_Dutch @ 3.4
19 77.1% Romanian + 22.9% Swedish @ 3.42
20 77.6% Romanian + 22.4% Southwest_English @ 3.44
Mom
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.45
2 North_Atlantic 27.79
3 West_Med 15.04
4 East_Med 13.96
5 West_Asian 8.08
6 Siberian 3.11
7 Red_Sea 1.72
8 Amerindian 0.66
9 Oceanian 0.55
10 South_Asian 0.37
11 East_Asian 0.19
12 Sub-Saharan 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.5
2 Hungarian 6.67
3 Moldavian 6.68
4 Romanian 7.08
5 Croatian 8.37
6 Bulgarian 9.78
7 Austrian 10.15
8 East_German 11.61
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.42
10 South_Polish 14.71
11 West_German 15.39
12 Ukrainian 15.67
13 South_Dutch 16.86
14 French 17.38
15 Greek_Thessaly 17.8
16 Polish 18.46
17 North_Italian 18.82
18 Southwest_Russian 19.06
19 North_German 19.55
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.8% Greek_Thessaly + 45.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.55
2 53.4% Southwest_Finnish + 46.6% Central_Greek @ 1.7
3 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.75
4 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Mari @ 2.09
5 51.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 48.3% Estonian @ 2.19
6 52.1% Tuscan + 47.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.19
7 90.3% Serbian + 9.7% East_Finnish @ 2.2
8 57.2% Southwest_Finnish + 42.8% South_Italian @ 2.25
9 78.2% Romanian + 21.8% Finnish @ 2.26
10 91.7% Serbian + 8.3% Chuvash @ 2.27
11 69.3% Bulgarian + 30.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.28
12 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Finnish @ 2.29
13 89.1% Serbian + 10.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.31
14 88.8% Serbian + 11.2% Tatar @ 2.36
15 50.2% West_Sicilian + 49.8% Estonian @ 2.38
16 96.2% Serbian + 3.8% Selkup @ 2.41
17 54.5% Southwest_Finnish + 45.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.42
18 68.8% Bulgarian + 31.2% North_Swedish @ 2.43
19 96.2% Serbian + 3.8% Ket @ 2.45
20 90% Serbian + 10% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.46
Chris596
06-05-2020, 05:42 PM
Great results everyone, am I the one who has the highest Baltic score so far? (I think it comes from my ancestry from Hungary)
my mothers results: 3/4 Hungarian/transylvania 1/4 Eastern Austria.
#
Population
Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.10
2 Baltic 29.77
3 West_Med 15.27
4 East_Med 12.98
5 West_Asian 5.13
6 Siberian 3.29
7 South_Asian 1.58
3.3%?? Can you please share her Dodecad K12b components? All of them.
17571imre
06-05-2020, 06:38 PM
3.3%?? Can you please share her Dodecad K12b components? All of them.
Population
Gedrosia 6.34 Pct
Siberian 2.39 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.59 Pct
Atlantic_Med 30.19 Pct
North_European 43.23 Pct
South_Asian 0.09 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.17 Pct
East_Asian 0.72 Pct
Caucasus 13.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
she scores 2% NorthEast Asia on FTDNA
Population
Gedrosia 6.34 Pct
Siberian 2.39 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.59 Pct
Atlantic_Med 30.19 Pct
North_European 43.23 Pct
South_Asian 0.09 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.17 Pct
East_Asian 0.72 Pct
Caucasus 13.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
she scores 2% NorthEast Asia on FTDNA
2.39 + 0.59 + 0.72 = 3.7%
That's quite a bit considering she is 1/4 Austrian.
These are her oracles. Quite neat
Target: ~
Distance: 1.7337% / 1.73368860 | ADC: 0.5x
51.0 German
49.0 HUN_Szekely
Target: ~
Distance: 0.9843% / 0.98429923 | ADC: 0.25x
51.8 German
45.4 HUN_Szekely
1.4 French
1.2 Ket
0.2 Dolgan
Chris596
06-05-2020, 08:01 PM
2.39 + 0.59 + 0.72 = 3.7%
That's quite a bit considering she is 1/4 Austrian.
These are her oracles. Quite neat
Interesting, I get almost the same amount on Dodecad K12b, but instead of Siberian I get East Asian (so it's not the same in the case of Hungarians?)
Ion Basescul
06-05-2020, 10:40 PM
Thanks to everyone who shared their results.
v2
https://i.imgur.com/hC1YLII.png
Cybele
06-07-2020, 11:21 PM
You can add me too (from Mureș county+ distant Alba ancestor)
K13 Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.34
2 Baltic 22.26
3 West_Med 19.68
4 East_Med 14.43
5 West_Asian 10.29
6 Red_Sea 2.8
7 South_Asian 2.11
8 Siberian 1.52
9 Amerindian 0.3
10 Oceanian 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
Population Distance
1. Romanian 5.06
2. Serbian 6.16
3. Bulgarian 7.2
4. Moldavian 11.66
5. Greek_Thessaly 12.67
6. Hungarian 12.68
7. North_Italian 12.93
8. Austrian 13.98
9. Croatian 14.12
10. Tuscan 14.68
11. French 15.89
12. East_German 15.95
13. West_German 16.5
14. Portuguese 16.85
15. Spanish_Galicia 17.04
16. Italian_Abruzzo 17.53
17. South_Dutch 17.78
18. Spanish_Extremadura 17.87
19. Spanish_Cataluna 18.09
20. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.79
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
Primary Population Secondary Population Distance
1 88.7% Romanian + 11.3% French_Basque 2.75
2 83% Romanian + 17% Southwest_French 2.79
3 52.7% Moldavian + 47.3% North_Italian 2.81
4 56% Moldavian + 44% Tuscan 2.85
5 83% Romanian + 17% Spanish_Cantabria 2.88
6 80.2% Romanian + 19.8% Spanish_Galicia 2.9
7 83.3% Romanian + 16.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 3.08
8 85.2% Romanian + 14.8% Spanish_Aragon 3.12
9 81.7% Romanian + 18.3% Spanish_Extremadura 3.16
10 83.2% Romanian + 16.8% Spanish_Andalucia 3.19
11 82.7% Romanian + 17.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.25
12 81.1% Romanian + 18.9% Portuguese 3.27
13 82.2% Romanian + 17.8% Spanish_Cataluna 3.27
14 83.4% Romanian + 16.6% Spanish_Valencia 3.38
15 58.6% Tuscan + 41.4% Ukrainian_Lviv 3.39
16 83.4% Romanian+ 16.6% Spanish_Murcia 3.4
17 56.1% Greek_Thessaly + 43.9% East_German 3.44
18 80.9% Romanian + 19.1% French 3.49
19 51% Croatian + 49% Tuscan 3.5
20 54.9% East_German + 45.1% Central_Greek 3.53
IrisSelene
06-07-2020, 11:33 PM
Thanks to everyone who shared their results.
v2
https://i.imgur.com/hC1YLII.png
Did I share mine? lol I don't remember
Cybele
06-07-2020, 11:38 PM
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.7% Tuscan + 36.3% Erzya @ 2.98
2 62.5% Moldavian + 37.5% Tuscan @ 3.46
3 67.1% Moldavian + 32.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.69
4 62.7% Tuscan + 37.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.8
5 89.7% Serbian + 10.3% Sardinian @ 3.89
6 50.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.95
7 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Selkup @ 3.97
8 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Dolgan @ 3.97
9 97.6% Romanian + 2.4% Evens @ 3.98
10 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Evenki @ 3.99
11 50.9% West_Sicilian + 49.1% Ukrainian @ 4
12 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Yakut @ 4
13 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Ket @ 4.01
14 94.9% Romanian + 5.1% Sardinian @ 4.1
15 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Oroqen @ 4.1
16 61.1% Croatian + 38.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.11
17 97.6% Romanian + 2.4% Koryak @ 4.14
18 95.1% Romanian + 4.9% Mari @ 4.14
19 97.3% Romanian + 2.7% Tuvinian @ 4.15
20 58% West_Sicilian + 42% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.17
My mother (also from region of Transylvania with one grandparent from Alba) got as well some very small percentages of: Mari, Selkup, Evenki, Dolgan, Ket etc. on her EuroK13. I wonder why is that:confused:
IrisSelene
06-07-2020, 11:56 PM
I'm from Crisana, Arad. 3/8 Hungarian, 2/8 Romanian, 2/8 Bulgarian, 1/8 Croat.
With V3:
Population
North_Atlantic 23.62 Pct
Baltic 30.49 Pct
West_Med 16.36 Pct
West_Asian 11.74 Pct
East_Med 13.78 Pct
Red_Sea 0.35 Pct
South_Asian 0.64 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 1.57 Pct
Amerindian 0.47 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.23 Pct
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moldavian @ 5.431706
2 Serbian @ 6.100284
3 Romanian @ 7.709648
4 Croatian @ 9.185903
5 Bulgarian @ 9.577634
6 Hungarian @ 11.154503
7 Austrian @ 15.608813
8 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.096666
9 East_German @ 16.832279
10 South_Polish @ 17.187538
11 Ukrainian @ 17.449131
12 Greek_Thessaly @ 19.726234
13 Southwest_Russian @ 20.799232
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 20.892605
15 Polish @ 21.227766
16 Tatar @ 21.371767
17 West_German @ 22.426287
18 Russian_Smolensk @ 23.226198
19 North_Italian @ 23.735210
20 Estonian_Polish @ 23.915695
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +50% Romanian @ 2.725704
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Moldavian +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.458634
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Moldavian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.458634
2 Central_Greek + Moldavian + Moldavian + Ukrainian @ 2.463907
3 Bulgarian + Moldavian + Moldavian + Moldavian @ 2.510268
4 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Moldavian + Ukrainian @ 2.517138
5 Central_Greek + Moldavian + Moldavian + South_Polish @ 2.669398
6 Bulgarian + Moldavian + Moldavian + Serbian @ 2.672062
7 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Moldavian + South_Polish @ 2.677082
8 Bulgarian + Moldavian + Moldavian + Romanian @ 2.709107
9 Bulgarian + Croatian + Moldavian + Romanian @ 2.724024
10 Moldavian + Moldavian + Romanian + Romanian @ 2.725704
11 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Croatian + Moldavian @ 2.754984
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Kargopol_Russian + Romanian @ 2.770618
13 Bulgarian + Moldavian + Romanian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.793506
14 Central_Greek + Moldavian + Moldavian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.798623
15 Bulgarian + Kargopol_Russian + Romanian + Romanian @ 2.815176
16 Moldavian + Moldavian + South_Italian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.824782
17 Bulgarian + Moldavian + Romanian + Ukrainian @ 2.846259
18 Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + Romanian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.857519
19 Central_Greek + Moldavian + Moldavian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.867073
20 Italian_Abruzzo + Moldavian + Moldavian + Ukrainian @ 2.868101
With V5:
Population
North_Atlantic 21.24 Pct
Baltic 31.64 Pct
West_Med 14.66 Pct
West_Asian 14.77 Pct
East_Med 14.81 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.13 Pct
Amerindian 0.75 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moldavian @ 7.973099
2 Serbian @ 9.673020
3 Romanian @ 9.806473
4 Bulgarian @ 10.581062
5 Croatian @ 11.732075
6 Hungarian @ 14.351007
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 17.441879
8 Ukrainian @ 18.776432
9 South_Polish @ 18.811474
10 Austrian @ 19.125437
11 East_German @ 20.277328
12 Greek_Thessaly @ 20.389950
13 Tatar @ 20.533907
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 20.906082
15 Southwest_Russian @ 21.057371
16 Polish @ 22.586363
17 Russian_Smolensk @ 23.947634
18 Estonian_Polish @ 24.756590
19 Kargopol_Russian @ 25.193983
20 Belorussian @ 25.514446
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.320919
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +25% Southwest_Russian +25% Turkish @ 4.370676
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian + Croatian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.510861
2 Armenian + Moldavian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.623739
3 Armenian + Croatian + South_Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.840235
4 Armenian + Croatian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.868442
5 Armenian + Moldavian + South_Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.879180
6 Armenian + Bulgarian + Estonian + Ukrainian @ 3.889106
7 Armenian + Lithuanian + Romanian + Ukrainian @ 3.925853
8 Armenian + Moldavian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.931661
9 Armenian + Croatian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 3.970079
10 Armenian + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 3.996716
11 Armenian + Croatian + Croatian + Estonian_Polish @ 4.009712
12 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Moldavian + Ukrainian @ 4.014107
13 Armenian + Moldavian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 4.020778
14 Armenian + Estonian + Romanian + Ukrainian @ 4.028778
15 Armenian + Erzya + Lithuanian + North_Italian @ 4.080880
16 Armenian + Moldavian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.085292
17 Armenian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 4.085639
18 Armenian + Lithuanian + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 4.088317
19 Armenian + Croatian + Croatian + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.097443
20 Croatian + Georgian_Jewish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 4.098497
Ion Basescul
06-08-2020, 02:34 PM
My mother (also from region of Transylvania with one grandparent from Alba) got as well some very small percentages of: Mari, Selkup, Evenki, Dolgan, Ket etc. on her EuroK13. I wonder why is that:confused:
Thanks, that happens because the sum of your Siberian/East Asian/Amerindian components are slightly higher than that of the Romanian average from GEDmatch. That average is composed of only a couple of samples, so it's not that representative. With over 300 samples that I've looked at, it is clear that the average is higher, so you fall on the lower end actually.
Did I share mine? lol I don't remember
I think someone else shared the results on your behalf earlier, but I didn't add them because I didn't know the county and/or region.
v3 with the ladies
https://i.postimg.cc/gYnY6ZXR/screencapture-file-C-Users-josan-c-Desktop-Temp-Transylvania-html-2020-06-08-15-23-10.png
Stears, half Transylvanian Szekler
Stears,28.18,31.44,12.48,11.01,10.49,0.86,2.15,0.2 3,2.03,0.67,0.00,0.46,0.00
Distance to: Stears
4.53681606 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
4.88169028 Moldova_North
5.11624863 Croat_Croatia
5.17453380 Croat
5.19578764 Hungarian_Transylvania
5.28762388 Hungarian_Alfold
5.29694720 Hungarian
5.46409187 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.57366535 Hungarian_Budapest
5.77534415 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
5.81944896 Hungarian_Szekely
5.90746985 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
6.00194968 Croat_Croatia_Central
6.07785324 Croat_B&H
6.14769519 Slovenian
6.17779087 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
6.18825212 Hungarian_Transdanubia
6.23660966 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.23872391 Bosniak_Sarajevo
6.25715840 Hungarian_Csango
6.32157417 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
6.39411448 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
6.41018720 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
6.68739112 Bosniak
6.92913415 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
Target: Stears
Distance: 0.9137% / 0.91373456 | ADC: 0.25x
45.4 Hungarian_Budapest
40.2 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
6.4 Yagnobi
3.8 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
2.6 Tatar
1.6 Kalash
Ion Basescul
06-08-2020, 03:08 PM
Stears, half Transylvanian Szekler
Stears,28.18,31.44,12.48,11.01,10.49,0.86,2.15,0.2 3,2.03,0.67,0.00,0.46,0.00
What's his other half? Hungarian from Budapest?
What's his other half? Hungarian from Budapest?
Hungarian from southern Trasndanubia (SW Hungary), his mother being 1/4 Croat from Transdanubia as well.
Ion Basescul
06-08-2020, 03:32 PM
v3 +Stears
https://i.postimg.cc/fZKxwVXZ/screencapture-file-C-Users-josan-c-Desktop-Temp-Transylvania-html-2020-06-08-16-27-49.png
Cybele
06-08-2020, 06:30 PM
Thanks, that happens because the sum of your Siberian/East Asian/Amerindian components are slightly higher than that of the Romanian average from GEDmatch. That average is composed of only a couple of samples, so it's not that representative. With over 300 samples that I've looked at, it is clear that the average is higher, so you fall on the lower end actually.
Thanks for the explanation! Since I am quite new to it, I thought it meant actual admixture with some Siberian people :); but now I see is more about distances. From what I can recall, her Admix Results is not very different from mine. Probably similar amount of Siberian/East Asian/Amerindian components, yet on Mixed Mode Population Sharing we are different.
Ion Basescul
06-08-2020, 06:47 PM
Thanks for the explanation! Since I am quite new to it, I thought it meant actual admixture with some Siberian people :); but now I see is more about distances. From what I can recall, her Admix Results is not very different from mine. Probably similar amount of Siberian/East Asian/Amerindian components, yet on Mixed Mode Population Sharing we are different.
That's normal. It's indicative of dark ages to medieval migrations, that is Huns, Bulgars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Hungarian Conquerors, Tatars and Mongols. Loads of folk moved around.
Cybele
06-08-2020, 07:11 PM
That's normal. It's indicative of dark ages to medieval migrations, that is Huns, Bulgars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Hungarian Conquerors, Tatars and Mongols. Loads of folk moved around.
Hm, makes sense. The Hungarian Conqueror does shows up in the My True Ancestry result in a small percentage. But all these people you mentioned were not 100% Asians right? Excuse my noob question, but I was under the impression that they were also mixed. Is it possible for their Asian DNA to survive for such a long time, that it can show in nowdays people?
Ion Basescul
06-08-2020, 07:34 PM
Hm, makes sense. The Hungarian Conqueror does shows up in the My True Ancestry result in a small percentage. But all these people you mentioned were not 100% Asians right? Excuse my noob question, but I was under the impression that they were also mixed. Is it possible for their Asian DNA to survive for such a long time, that it can show in nowdays people?
Apart from the Mongols, who were mostly pure East Asians/Siberians, the rest were none to about 30% East Asian/Siberian. Because this heritage survived in all of us, less in Romas who are relatively recent arrivals, it must mean that they heavily mixed with the locals.
Cybele
06-08-2020, 08:50 PM
Apart from the Mongols, who were mostly pure East Asians/Siberians, the rest were none to about 30% East Asian/Siberian. Because this heritage survived in all of us, less in Romas who are relatively recent arrivals, it must mean that they heavily mixed with the locals.
I understand. Talking to my mom, I've found out that one of her aunts (her father's sister) had slightly more "Asian" phenotype compared to the rest of the siblings. Now of course, phenotype and genotype are not the same. At this point I have too little knowledge to tell exactly where this heritage comes from; but it might as well be something older (from the invasions that you mentioned).
Ion Basescul
06-14-2020, 02:21 PM
From Sibiu
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
27.87
2
North_Atlantic
21.33
3
West_Med
17.8
4
East_Med
14.28
5
West_Asian
13.21
6
Red_Sea
1.71
7
Siberian
1.47
8
Amerindian
1.2
9
Oceanian
1.13
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Romanian
5.68
2
Bulgarian
6.37
3
Serbian
6.7
4
Moldavian
7.81
5
Croatian
11.35
6
Hungarian
12.82
7
Greek_Thessaly
14.65
8
Austrian
16.12
9
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.22
10
East_German
17.45
11
South_Polish
18.59
12
Ukrainian
18.65
13
North_Italian
19.69
14
Tuscan
20.17
15
Italian_Abruzzo
20.91
16
West_German
21.12
17
Central_Greek
21.14
18
Southwest_Russian
21.55
19
Tatar
21.58
20
Ukrainian_Belgorod
21.6
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
74.3%
Moldavian
+
25.7%
Central_Greek
@
2.89
2
78%
Moldavian
+
22%
South_Italian
@
3.12
3
83.3%
Moldavian
+
16.7%
Cyprian
@
3.15
4
56.5%
Bulgarian
+
43.5%
Moldavian
@
3.28
5
76%
Moldavian
+
24%
East_Sicilian
@
3.32
6
67%
Moldavian
+
33%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.39
7
85.4%
Moldavian
+
14.6%
Armenian
@
3.53
8
74.8%
Moldavian
+
25.2%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.59
9
55.3%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
44.7%
Central_Greek
@
3.71
10
82.4%
Moldavian
+
17.6%
Turkish
@
3.74
11
83.3%
Bulgarian
+
16.7%
Erzya
@
3.75
12
84.5%
Moldavian
+
15.5%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
3.75
13
85.6%
Moldavian
+
14.4%
Assyrian
@
3.75
14
82.8%
Bulgarian
+
17.2%
Kargopol_Russian
@
3.76
15
76.7%
Bulgarian
+
23.3%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
3.79
16
85.5%
Moldavian
+
14.5%
Georgian_Jewish
@
3.84
17
82.1%
Moldavian
+
17.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.89
18
86.3%
Moldavian
+
13.7%
Lebanese_Christian
@
3.89
19
82.1%
Moldavian
+
17.9%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
3.89
20
86.3%
Moldavian
+
13.7%
Kurdish_Jewish
@
3.95
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Sibiu
Distance: 384.7565% / 3.84756487 | ADC: 0.25x
81.8
Romania_Banat
12.4
Ukrainian_Lviv
4.6
Crimean_Tatar
1.2
Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0
Ashkenazi
0.0
Gagauz
0.0
Roma_Unmixed
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0
Romania_Maramures
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_average
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0
Romania_Muntenia
0.0
Romania_Transylvania
0.0
Romanian_Oltenia
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
0.0
RU_Pinega
0.0
Russian_Smolensk
0.0
Ukrainian
0.0
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Sibiu
Distance: 430.8793% / 4.30879282 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2
Romania_Moldavia_North
45.8
Romania_Banat
4.0
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0
Ashkenazi
0.0
Roma_Unmixed
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Maramures
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_average
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0
Romania_Muntenia
0.0
Romania_Transylvania
0.0
Romanian_Oltenia
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Sibiu
4.98878743
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.13386794
Romania_Moldavia_average
5.21624386
Romania_Banat
5.62868546
Romania_Transylvania
5.70853747
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.96455363
Romanian_Wallachia
5.98219859
Romanian_Oltenia
6.26605139
Romania_Dobruja
6.44374891
Romania_Maramures
6.69920891
Romania_Muntenia
7.95562065
Romania_Crisana
27.14126747
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
28.19615931
Ashkenazi
34.42557480
Roma_Unmixed
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
06-14-2020, 04:02 PM
Might be interesting to our mixed guys from the States
Half Romanian from Arad, Half German American
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
33
2
North_Atlantic
30.99
3
West_Med
15.18
4
East_Med
9.6
5
West_Asian
6.85
6
South_Asian
1.76
7
Red_Sea
1.65
8
Siberian
0.77
9
Sub-Saharan
0.21
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Hungarian
3.26
2
Croatian
4.64
3
Austrian
6.31
4
East_German
6.32
5
Moldavian
6.48
6
Serbian
8.43
7
South_Polish
9.4
8
Ukrainian_Lviv
9.79
9
Ukrainian
10.93
10
Romanian
12.69
11
Polish
13.03
12
West_German
14.22
13
Southwest_Russian
15.16
14
South_Dutch
15.34
15
Bulgarian
15.36
16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
15.54
17
Russian_Smolensk
15.91
18
North_German
16.23
19
North_Swedish
16.32
20
Estonian_Polish
16.44
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
70.9%
South_Polish
+
29.1%
North_Italian
@
1.22
2
77.7%
Croatian
+
22.3%
South_Dutch
@
1.5
3
80.2%
Croatian
+
19.8%
French
@
1.64
4
61.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
38.1%
Spanish_Valencia
@
1.67
5
63.3%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
36.7%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
1.68
6
61.5%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
38.5%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
1.7
7
58.5%
Croatian
+
41.5%
Austrian
@
1.7
8
63.7%
Polish
+
36.3%
North_Italian
@
1.71
9
76.6%
Croatian
+
23.4%
West_German
@
1.73
10
50.7%
East_German
+
49.3%
Moldavian
@
1.76
11
59.7%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
40.3%
Portuguese
@
1.81
12
62.1%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
37.9%
Spanish_Murcia
@
1.81
13
58.9%
Russian_Smolensk
+
41.1%
North_Italian
@
1.87
14
59.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
40.1%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
1.93
15
62.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
37.2%
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
@
1.96
16
59.4%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
40.6%
Spanish_Galicia
@
1.97
17
82.3%
Croatian
+
17.7%
Southeast_English
@
2
18
83.7%
Croatian
+
16.3%
Southwest_English
@
2.05
19
62.1%
Southwest_Russian
+
37.9%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
2.07
20
64%
Southwest_Russian
+
36%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
2.07
</tbody>
17571imre
06-14-2020, 04:14 PM
Might be interesting to our mixed guys from the States
Half Romanian from Arad, Half German American
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
33
2
North_Atlantic
30.99
3
West_Med
15.18
4
East_Med
9.6
5
West_Asian
6.85
6
South_Asian
1.76
7
Red_Sea
1.65
8
Siberian
0.77
9
Sub-Saharan
0.21
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Hungarian
3.26
2
Croatian
4.64
3
Austrian
6.31
4
East_German
6.32
5
Moldavian
6.48
6
Serbian
8.43
7
South_Polish
9.4
8
Ukrainian_Lviv
9.79
9
Ukrainian
10.93
10
Romanian
12.69
11
Polish
13.03
12
West_German
14.22
13
Southwest_Russian
15.16
14
South_Dutch
15.34
15
Bulgarian
15.36
16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
15.54
17
Russian_Smolensk
15.91
18
North_German
16.23
19
North_Swedish
16.32
20
Estonian_Polish
16.44
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
70.9%
South_Polish
+
29.1%
North_Italian
@
1.22
2
77.7%
Croatian
+
22.3%
South_Dutch
@
1.5
3
80.2%
Croatian
+
19.8%
French
@
1.64
4
61.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
38.1%
Spanish_Valencia
@
1.67
5
63.3%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
36.7%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
1.68
6
61.5%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
38.5%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
1.7
7
58.5%
Croatian
+
41.5%
Austrian
@
1.7
8
63.7%
Polish
+
36.3%
North_Italian
@
1.71
9
76.6%
Croatian
+
23.4%
West_German
@
1.73
10
50.7%
East_German
+
49.3%
Moldavian
@
1.76
11
59.7%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
40.3%
Portuguese
@
1.81
12
62.1%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
37.9%
Spanish_Murcia
@
1.81
13
58.9%
Russian_Smolensk
+
41.1%
North_Italian
@
1.87
14
59.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
40.1%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
1.93
15
62.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
37.2%
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
@
1.96
16
59.4%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
40.6%
Spanish_Galicia
@
1.97
17
82.3%
Croatian
+
17.7%
Southeast_English
@
2
18
83.7%
Croatian
+
16.3%
Southwest_English
@
2.05
19
62.1%
Southwest_Russian
+
37.9%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
2.07
20
64%
Southwest_Russian
+
36%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
2.07
</tbody>
could you also post his K15 results? :)
Ion Basescul
06-14-2020, 04:21 PM
could you also post his K15 results? :)
I'll check a bit later, because GEDmatch seems to be down.
Ion Basescul
06-14-2020, 04:36 PM
could you also post his K15 results? :)
And it's back
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Atlantic
21.91
2
Baltic
20.26
3
North_Sea
18.49
4
Eastern_Euro
14.06
5
West_Med
10.29
6
East_Med
6.32
7
West_Asian
5.91
8
Red_Sea
1.57
9
South_Asian
1.19
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Austrian
3.22
2
Croatian
4.57
3
Hungarian
6.45
4
East_German
7.88
5
Moldavian
7.88
6
Serbian
8.33
7
South_Polish
9.62
8
Ukrainian_Lviv
10.74
9
Romanian
11.24
10
Ukrainian
11.25
11
Polish
11.41
12
Russian_Smolensk
12.46
13
Bulgarian
13.58
14
Southwest_Finnish
13.95
15
Ukrainian_Belgorod
14
16
Southwest_Russian
14.25
17
South_Dutch
14.48
18
Estonian_Polish
14.74
19
Belorussian
14.84
20
Finnish
15.74
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
60.4%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
39.6%
Spanish_Valencia
@
1.67
2
61.1%
Austrian
+
38.9%
Croatian
@
1.81
3
57.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
42.2%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
1.87
4
60.2%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
39.8%
Spanish_Murcia
@
1.87
5
61.5%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
38.5%
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
@
1.88
6
58.7%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
41.3%
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
@
2.01
7
87.9%
Croatian
+
12.1%
French_Basque
@
2.04
8
61.3%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
38.7%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
2.06
9
62.7%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
37.3%
Spanish_Aragon
@
2.14
10
61.4%
Russian_Smolensk
+
38.6%
North_Italian
@
2.2
11
60%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
40%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
2.22
12
60%
Southwest_Russian
+
40%
Spanish_Valencia
@
2.33
13
62.8%
Russian_Smolensk
+
37.2%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
2.35
14
61%
Southwest_Russian
+
39%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
2.37
15
63.1%
Russian_Smolensk
+
36.9%
Spanish_Murcia
@
2.39
16
61.2%
Southwest_Russian
+
38.8%
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
@
2.4
17
85.9%
Croatian
+
14.1%
Spanish_Aragon
@
2.48
18
78.6%
Austrian
+
21.4%
Moldavian
@
2.5
19
57.4%
Southwest_Russian
+
42.6%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
2.52
20
85.9%
Austrian
+
14.1%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.52
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
06-14-2020, 05:06 PM
Hungarians from Turda don't count as Szeklers, right?
If so, then this individual is half Szekler, half Hungarian.
1/2 Covasna, 1/2 Cluj
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
33.41
2
Baltic
25.59
3
West_Med
16.6
4
East_Med
11.61
5
West_Asian
8.55
6
East_Asian
2.29
7
Siberian
1.24
8
Oceanian
0.69
9
South_Asian
0.01
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Austrian
6.91
2
Hungarian
7.26
3
Serbian
7.36
4
East_German
9.1
5
West_German
9.92
6
Romanian
10.39
7
Moldavian
11.06
8
South_Dutch
11.38
9
Croatian
11.46
10
French
12.11
11
Bulgarian
13.21
12
North_German
15.09
13
South_Polish
16.47
14
North_Italian
16.68
15
Southeast_English
16.77
16
Spanish_Cataluna
17.03
17
Portuguese
17.07
18
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.07
19
Spanish_Galicia
17.25
20
Danish
17.36
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
73.3%
Serbian
+
26.7%
Southwest_English
@
3.07
2
62.2%
Serbian
+
37.8%
South_Dutch
@
3.12
3
58.6%
Serbian
+
41.4%
West_German
@
3.14
4
58.3%
Bulgarian
+
41.7%
Orcadian
@
3.16
5
71.3%
Serbian
+
28.7%
Southeast_English
@
3.18
6
73%
Serbian
+
27%
Orcadian
@
3.22
7
64.5%
Romanian
+
35.5%
Orcadian
@
3.26
8
59.5%
Bulgarian
+
40.5%
Norwegian
@
3.33
9
75%
Serbian
+
25%
West_Scottish
@
3.33
10
74.3%
Serbian
+
25.7%
Irish
@
3.35
11
75.9%
Hungarian
+
24.1%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
3.38
12
57.4%
Bulgarian
+
42.6%
North_Dutch
@
3.41
13
73.7%
East_German
+
26.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.44
14
65.7%
Romanian
+
34.3%
Norwegian
@
3.47
15
63.7%
Romanian
+
36.3%
North_Dutch
@
3.49
16
57.2%
Bulgarian
+
42.8%
Danish
@
3.49
17
52.5%
Moldavian
+
47.5%
French
@
3.49
18
83.4%
Austrian
+
16.6%
South_Italian
@
3.5
19
72%
Hungarian
+
28%
North_Italian
@
3.5
20
81.5%
Austrian
+
18.5%
Central_Greek
@
3.51
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
50Covasna_50Cluj
6.47844611
Hungarian_Szekely
7.20896430
Hungarian_Transylvania
9.09282719
Hungarian_Csango
9.41234827
Romania_Crisana
11.19430659
Moldova_North
11.24228624
Romania_Moldavia_South
11.32822140
Romania_Moldavia_average
11.52077688
Romania_Transylvania
11.63613338
Romania_Moldavia_North
11.92345168
Romanian_Oltenia
13.34859169
Romanian_Wallachia
13.37886393
Moldova_Centre
14.43477745
Romania_Banat
14.45720582
Romania_Muntenia
14.64402267
Romania_Dobruja
14.72068613
Moldova_South
18.23474979
Gagauz
19.32995344
Ukrainian_Lviv
20.51347850
Ukrainian
26.27754745
Russian_Smolensk
29.99307253
Crimean_Tatar
31.64207010
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
33.79134801
Ashkenazi
33.90389036
RU_Pinega
39.72819654
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: 50Covasna_50Cluj
Distance: 647.8446% / 6.47844611 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0
Hungarian_Szekely
0.0
Ashkenazi
0.0
Crimean_Tatar
0.0
Gagauz
0.0
Hungarian_Csango
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Moldova_Centre
0.0
Moldova_North
0.0
Moldova_South
0.0
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0
Romania_Banat
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_average
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0
Romania_Muntenia
0.0
Romania_Transylvania
0.0
Romanian_Oltenia
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
0.0
RU_Pinega
0.0
Russian_Smolensk
0.0
Ukrainian
0.0
Ukrainian_Lviv
</tbody>
17571imre
06-14-2020, 06:56 PM
Hungarians from Turda don't count as Szeklers, right?
If so, then this individual is half Szekler, half Hungarian.
1/2 Covasna, 1/2 Cluj
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
33.41
2
Baltic
25.59
3
West_Med
16.6
4
East_Med
11.61
5
West_Asian
8.55
6
East_Asian
2.29
7
Siberian
1.24
8
Oceanian
0.69
9
South_Asian
0.01
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Austrian
6.91
2
Hungarian
7.26
3
Serbian
7.36
4
East_German
9.1
5
West_German
9.92
6
Romanian
10.39
7
Moldavian
11.06
8
South_Dutch
11.38
9
Croatian
11.46
10
French
12.11
11
Bulgarian
13.21
12
North_German
15.09
13
South_Polish
16.47
14
North_Italian
16.68
15
Southeast_English
16.77
16
Spanish_Cataluna
17.03
17
Portuguese
17.07
18
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.07
19
Spanish_Galicia
17.25
20
Danish
17.36
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
73.3%
Serbian
+
26.7%
Southwest_English
@
3.07
2
62.2%
Serbian
+
37.8%
South_Dutch
@
3.12
3
58.6%
Serbian
+
41.4%
West_German
@
3.14
4
58.3%
Bulgarian
+
41.7%
Orcadian
@
3.16
5
71.3%
Serbian
+
28.7%
Southeast_English
@
3.18
6
73%
Serbian
+
27%
Orcadian
@
3.22
7
64.5%
Romanian
+
35.5%
Orcadian
@
3.26
8
59.5%
Bulgarian
+
40.5%
Norwegian
@
3.33
9
75%
Serbian
+
25%
West_Scottish
@
3.33
10
74.3%
Serbian
+
25.7%
Irish
@
3.35
11
75.9%
Hungarian
+
24.1%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
3.38
12
57.4%
Bulgarian
+
42.6%
North_Dutch
@
3.41
13
73.7%
East_German
+
26.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.44
14
65.7%
Romanian
+
34.3%
Norwegian
@
3.47
15
63.7%
Romanian
+
36.3%
North_Dutch
@
3.49
16
57.2%
Bulgarian
+
42.8%
Danish
@
3.49
17
52.5%
Moldavian
+
47.5%
French
@
3.49
18
83.4%
Austrian
+
16.6%
South_Italian
@
3.5
19
72%
Hungarian
+
28%
North_Italian
@
3.5
20
81.5%
Austrian
+
18.5%
Central_Greek
@
3.51
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
50Covasna_50Cluj
6.47844611
Hungarian_Szekely
7.20896430
Hungarian_Transylvania
9.09282719
Hungarian_Csango
9.41234827
Romania_Crisana
11.19430659
Moldova_North
11.24228624
Romania_Moldavia_South
11.32822140
Romania_Moldavia_average
11.52077688
Romania_Transylvania
11.63613338
Romania_Moldavia_North
11.92345168
Romanian_Oltenia
13.34859169
Romanian_Wallachia
13.37886393
Moldova_Centre
14.43477745
Romania_Banat
14.45720582
Romania_Muntenia
14.64402267
Romania_Dobruja
14.72068613
Moldova_South
18.23474979
Gagauz
19.32995344
Ukrainian_Lviv
20.51347850
Ukrainian
26.27754745
Russian_Smolensk
29.99307253
Crimean_Tatar
31.64207010
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
33.79134801
Ashkenazi
33.90389036
RU_Pinega
39.72819654
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: 50Covasna_50Cluj
Distance: 647.8446% / 6.47844611 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0
Hungarian_Szekely
0.0
Ashkenazi
0.0
Crimean_Tatar
0.0
Gagauz
0.0
Hungarian_Csango
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Moldova_Centre
0.0
Moldova_North
0.0
Moldova_South
0.0
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0
Romania_Banat
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_average
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0
Romania_Muntenia
0.0
Romania_Transylvania
0.0
Romanian_Oltenia
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
0.0
RU_Pinega
0.0
Russian_Smolensk
0.0
Ukrainian
0.0
Ukrainian_Lviv
</tbody>
this one looks pretty similair as my results and i also plot as Szekely on vahaduo. i think gedmatch gives me the combination of Serbian and Dutch because my Hungarian side is more Southern then the Hungarian average but im not sure.
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1 72.2% Hungarian + 27.8% North_Italian @ 1.51
2 75.4% Hungarian + 24.6% Tuscan @ 1.67
3 80.6% Serbian + 19.4% Southeast_English @ 1.79
4 74.3% East_German + 25.7% Ashkenazi @ 1.81
5 74.7% Serbian + 25.3% South_Dutch @ 1.87
6 82.3% Serbian + 17.7% Southwest_English @ 1.92
7 65.8% East_German + 34.2% Greek_Thessaly@ 1.96
8 82.1% Serbian + 17.9% Orcadian @ 2
9 72.6% Serbian + 27.4% West_German @ 2.01
10 50.9% South_Polish + 49.1% North_Italian @ 2.08
11 78.3% East_German + 21.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.14
12 78.1% East_German + 21.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.14
13 83.5% Serbian + 16.5% West_Scottish @ 2.15
14 71.2% Austrian + 28.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.2
15 83.3% Serbian + 16.7% Irish @ 2.25
16 72.6% East_German + 27.4% Central_Greek @ 2.28
17 81.8% Serbian + 18.2% Danish @ 2.32
18 73.5% East_German + 26.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.33
19 82% Serbian + 18% North_Dutch @ 2.34
20 75.4% East_German + 24.6% South_Italian @ 2.38
Ion Basescul
06-15-2020, 11:22 PM
A family of Szeklers from Harghita county
Szekler 1
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
32.59
2
Baltic
25.61
3
West_Med
15.45
4
East_Med
12.28
5
West_Asian
7.4
6
Siberian
1.79
7
Amerindian
1.59
8
Red_Sea
1.58
9
South_Asian
1.05
10
Northeast_African
0.34
11
Sub-Saharan
0.29
12
Oceanian
0.03
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Hungarian
6.31
2
Serbian
6.51
3
Austrian
6.99
4
East_German
9.1
5
Romanian
9.61
6
West_German
10.33
7
Moldavian
10.43
8
Croatian
10.87
9
South_Dutch
11.82
10
French
12.39
11
Bulgarian
12.64
12
North_German
15.37
13
South_Polish
16.2
14
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.58
15
North_Italian
16.77
16
Portuguese
17.14
17
Southeast_English
17.28
18
Spanish_Galicia
17.32
19
Spanish_Cataluna
17.58
20
Danish
17.71
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
73.5%
Hungarian
+
26.5%
North_Italian
@
1.93
2
76.2%
Hungarian
+
23.8%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
2.38
3
50.6%
North_Swedish
+
49.4%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.4
4
79.7%
East_German
+
20.3%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
2.41
5
65.7%
Serbian
+
34.3%
South_Dutch
@
2.42
6
78.2%
Hungarian
+
21.8%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
2.45
7
62.5%
Serbian
+
37.5%
West_German
@
2.45
8
77.2%
Hungarian
+
22.8%
Tuscan
@
2.46
9
75.4%
Serbian
+
24.6%
Orcadian
@
2.46
10
79.8%
East_German
+
20.2%
Italian_Jewish
@
2.47
11
77.1%
East_German
+
22.9%
South_Italian
@
2.5
12
76.8%
Hungarian
+
23.2%
Spanish_Murcia
@
2.51
13
74%
Serbian
+
26%
Southeast_English
@
2.52
14
66.6%
Romanian
+
33.4%
Orcadian
@
2.52
15
74.6%
Hungarian
+
25.4%
Portuguese
@
2.54
16
67.5%
Romanian
+
32.5%
Norwegian
@
2.54
17
76.5%
East_German
+
23.5%
Ashkenazi
@
2.56
18
77.2%
Serbian
+
22.8%
West_Scottish
@
2.56
19
81.4%
East_German
+
18.6%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
2.58
20
73.9%
East_German
+
26.1%
West_Sicilian
@
2.59
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
06-15-2020, 11:28 PM
Szekler 2
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
30.2
2
Baltic
26.11
3
East_Med
14.35
4
West_Med
13.75
5
West_Asian
9.37
6
Siberian
2.12
7
Red_Sea
1.09
8
Amerindian
1.07
9
Northeast_African
0.92
10
Oceanian
0.72
11
Sub-Saharan
0.31
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Serbian
4.44
2
Hungarian
6.87
3
Romanian
7.34
4
Moldavian
9.19
5
Austrian
9.32
6
Bulgarian
10.26
7
Croatian
10.47
8
East_German
11.36
9
West_German
13.08
10
South_Dutch
14.83
11
French
15.36
12
South_Polish
16.25
13
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.43
14
North_Italian
17.64
15
Greek_Thessaly
17.68
16
Ukrainian
17.69
17
North_German
17.69
18
Portuguese
19.38
19
Tuscan
19.59
20
Spanish_Galicia
19.87
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
50.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
49.7%
Southwest_Finnish
@
2.14
2
77.1%
Hungarian
+
22.9%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.15
3
74.6%
Romanian
+
25.4%
North_Swedish
@
2.34
4
81.2%
Hungarian
+
18.8%
South_Italian
@
2.34
5
74.7%
Romanian
+
25.3%
Swedish
@
2.37
6
83.7%
Hungarian
+
16.3%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
2.41
7
67.3%
Bulgarian
+
32.7%
Swedish
@
2.41
8
78.7%
Hungarian
+
21.3%
West_Sicilian
@
2.45
9
83.7%
Hungarian
+
16.3%
Italian_Jewish
@
2.49
10
79%
Hungarian
+
21%
Central_Greek
@
2.53
11
79.7%
Hungarian
+
20.3%
East_Sicilian
@
2.53
12
85.2%
Hungarian
+
14.8%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
2.59
13
67.3%
Bulgarian
+
32.7%
North_Swedish
@
2.6
14
53.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.1%
North_Swedish
@
2.6
15
76%
Romanian
+
24%
Norwegian
@
2.66
16
85.3%
Hungarian
+
14.7%
Libyan_Jewish
@
2.7
17
84.1%
Hungarian
+
15.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
2.71
18
55.7%
Southwest_Finnish
+
44.3%
South_Italian
@
2.77
19
72%
Romanian
+
28%
North_German
@
2.77
20
68.7%
Bulgarian
+
31.3%
Norwegian
@
2.77
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
06-15-2020, 11:30 PM
Szekler 3 (last one)
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
29.89
2
Baltic
29.62
3
West_Med
17.73
4
East_Med
12.74
5
West_Asian
5.82
6
Siberian
1.77
7
South_Asian
1.53
8
Amerindian
0.66
9
Sub-Saharan
0.18
10
Northeast_African
0.06
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Serbian
6.1
2
Hungarian
6.11
3
Moldavian
7.74
4
Croatian
7.92
5
Austrian
8.4
6
East_German
9.37
7
Romanian
9.61
8
Bulgarian
12.19
9
South_Polish
13.8
10
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.97
11
West_German
14.04
12
Ukrainian
14.83
13
South_Dutch
15.26
14
French
15.93
15
Polish
17.46
16
North_German
18.19
17
North_Italian
18.61
18
Southwest_Russian
18.98
19
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.58
20
Spanish_Galicia
19.71
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
55.7%
Ukrainian
+
44.3%
North_Italian
@
2.14
2
52.4%
North_Italian
+
47.6%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.37
3
50.5%
North_Italian
+
49.5%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.4
4
57.9%
North_Italian
+
42.1%
Lithuanian
@
2.58
5
57.6%
South_Polish
+
42.4%
North_Italian
@
2.58
6
53.1%
North_Italian
+
46.9%
Belorussian
@
2.66
7
88.2%
Hungarian
+
11.8%
Sardinian
@
2.69
8
52.1%
North_Italian
+
47.9%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.77
9
54.6%
North_Italian
+
45.4%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.83
10
74.5%
Croatian
+
25.5%
Spanish_Valencia
@
2.88
11
57.4%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
42.6%
North_Italian
@
3.03
12
51.6%
Polish
+
48.4%
North_Italian
@
3.04
13
51.3%
North_Italian
+
48.7%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
3.08
14
52.6%
Tuscan
+
47.4%
Estonian
@
3.08
15
76%
Croatian
+
24%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
3.11
16
75%
Croatian
+
25%
Spanish_Murcia
@
3.12
17
56.3%
North_Italian
+
43.7%
Estonian
@
3.15
18
71.7%
Croatian
+
28.3%
North_Italian
@
3.2
19
61.4%
South_Polish
+
38.6%
Tuscan
@
3.24
20
73.3%
Croatian
+
26.7%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
3.25
</tbody>
Kökény
06-16-2020, 07:35 AM
Hungarians from Turda don't count as Szeklers, right?
Yes, they don't count. Outside of Szekely Land only those who live between Braşov and Sibiu, in a region called Szászföld (Ținutul Saşilor) count as Szekelys.
Ion Basescul
06-23-2020, 09:50 PM
Szekler from Harghita
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
36.74
2
North_Atlantic
22.39
3
East_Med
16.51
4
West_Med
16.39
5
West_Asian
4.41
6
Siberian
1.67
7
Oceanian
0.97
8
Amerindian
0.81
9
East_Asian
0.06
10
South_Asian
0.05
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Moldavian
8.04
2
Croatian
8.45
3
Serbian
10.64
4
Hungarian
12.01
5
Ukrainian_Lviv
12.5
6
Romanian
12.79
7
Ukrainian
12.8
8
South_Polish
13.42
9
Bulgarian
13.61
10
Southwest_Russian
15.24
11
Ukrainian_Belgorod
16.14
12
Polish
16.2
13
Austrian
16.35
14
East_German
16.42
15
Estonian_Polish
17.32
16
Russian_Smolensk
17.46
17
Belorussian
18.07
18
Kargopol_Russian
19.34
19
Erzya
20.4
20
Greek_Thessaly
21.57
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
69%
Estonian_Polish
+
31%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.38
2
71.8%
Ukrainian
+
28.2%
Ashkenazi
@
5.48
3
56%
Estonian_Polish
+
44%
Greek_Thessaly
@
5.53
4
64.2%
Estonian_Polish
+
35.8%
Ashkenazi
@
5.53
5
76.1%
Ukrainian
+
23.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.55
6
69.2%
Estonian_Polish
+
30.8%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.56
7
62.8%
Lithuanian
+
37.2%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.57
8
76.3%
Ukrainian
+
23.7%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.72
9
51%
Greek_Thessaly
+
49%
Lithuanian
@
5.73
10
57.6%
Lithuanian
+
42.4%
Ashkenazi
@
5.76
11
63%
Lithuanian
+
37%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.78
12
54.8%
Belorussian
+
45.2%
Greek_Thessaly
@
5.85
13
57%
Bulgarian
+
43%
Estonian_Polish
@
5.85
14
72.2%
Southwest_Russian
+
27.8%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.88
15
68.2%
Belorussian
+
31.8%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.88
16
66.5%
Estonian_Polish
+
33.5%
South_Italian
@
5.9
17
59.7%
Southwest_Russian
+
40.3%
Greek_Thessaly
@
5.97
18
63.3%
Estonian_Polish
+
36.7%
Central_Greek
@
6.02
19
72.4%
Southwest_Russian
+
27.6%
Italian_Jewish
@
6.05
20
64.2%
Estonian_Polish
+
35.8%
East_Sicilian
@
6.08
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
06-23-2020, 09:56 PM
Romanians from Hunedoara
1.
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
26.31
2
North_Atlantic
21.84
3
East_Med
20.7
4
West_Med
16.46
5
West_Asian
10.54
6
Red_Sea
1.99
7
Oceanian
0.73
8
Siberian
0.67
9
East_Asian
0.46
10
Amerindian
0.29
11
South_Asian
0.02
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Bulgarian
2.78
2
Romanian
3.77
3
Serbian
6.51
4
Greek_Thessaly
10.98
5
Moldavian
11.29
6
Croatian
14.11
7
Hungarian
14.4
8
Tuscan
17.09
9
Italian_Abruzzo
17.69
10
Austrian
17.71
11
North_Italian
17.83
12
Central_Greek
17.84
13
East_Sicilian
19.08
14
West_Sicilian
19.09
15
East_German
19.42
16
Ashkenazi
19.95
17
Ukrainian_Lviv
20.31
18
South_Polish
21.08
19
Ukrainian
21.45
20
West_German
21.81
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
93%
Bulgarian
+
7%
Belorussian
@
1.89
2
92.3%
Bulgarian
+
7.7%
Southwest_Russian
@
1.92
3
93%
Bulgarian
+
7%
Estonian_Polish
@
1.94
4
94.2%
Bulgarian
+
5.8%
Lithuanian
@
1.97
5
60.5%
Central_Greek
+
39.5%
Belorussian
@
1.99
6
94.3%
Bulgarian
+
5.7%
East_Finnish
@
2
7
92.7%
Bulgarian
+
7.3%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.01
8
93.2%
Bulgarian
+
6.8%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.02
9
68.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
31.1%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.02
10
93.9%
Bulgarian
+
6.1%
Erzya
@
2.04
11
94.3%
Bulgarian
+
5.7%
Estonian
@
2.04
12
94.4%
Bulgarian
+
5.6%
Finnish
@
2.06
13
93.9%
Bulgarian
+
6.1%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.09
14
92.3%
Bulgarian
+
7.7%
Ukrainian
@
2.12
15
52%
South_Italian
+
48%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.12
16
69.2%
Greek_Thessaly
+
30.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.14
17
93.3%
Bulgarian
+
6.7%
Polish
@
2.14
18
95.1%
Bulgarian
+
4.9%
La_Brana-1
@
2.15
19
60%
Central_Greek
+
40%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.15
20
92.3%
Bulgarian
+
7.7%
South_Polish
@
2.15
</tbody>
2.
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
24.67
2
North_Atlantic
24.61
3
East_Med
18.95
4
West_Med
17.56
5
West_Asian
9.79
6
Red_Sea
2.51
7
Amerindian
0.82
8
East_Asian
0.79
9
Oceanian
0.3
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Romanian
1.99
2
Bulgarian
3.4
3
Serbian
4.73
4
Greek_Thessaly
11.04
5
Moldavian
11.17
6
Hungarian
12.91
7
Croatian
13.63
8
North_Italian
15.08
9
Tuscan
15.28
10
Austrian
15.46
11
Italian_Abruzzo
17.06
12
East_German
17.39
13
Central_Greek
18.04
14
West_Sicilian
18.39
15
West_German
18.92
16
French
18.97
17
East_Sicilian
19.21
18
Portuguese
19.9
19
Ukrainian_Lviv
20.2
20
South_Dutch
20.48
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
70.8%
Serbian
+
29.2%
Greek_Thessaly
@
1.42
2
89.8%
Bulgarian
+
10.2%
Southeast_English
@
1.67
3
83.9%
Bulgarian
+
16.1%
Austrian
@
1.69
4
90.2%
Bulgarian
+
9.8%
North_Dutch
@
1.72
5
90.7%
Bulgarian
+
9.3%
Norwegian
@
1.73
6
87.5%
Bulgarian
+
12.5%
South_Dutch
@
1.73
7
90.5%
Bulgarian
+
9.5%
Orcadian
@
1.73
8
60.1%
Bulgarian
+
39.9%
Serbian
@
1.73
9
90.2%
Bulgarian
+
9.8%
Danish
@
1.74
10
90.5%
Bulgarian
+
9.5%
Swedish
@
1.76
11
90.6%
Bulgarian
+
9.4%
Southwest_English
@
1.76
12
80.4%
Serbian
+
19.6%
Central_Greek
@
1.77
13
86.7%
Bulgarian
+
13.3%
West_German
@
1.77
14
91%
Bulgarian
+
9%
West_Scottish
@
1.78
15
85.7%
Bulgarian
+
14.3%
East_German
@
1.79
16
89.4%
Bulgarian
+
10.6%
North_German
@
1.8
17
90.9%
Bulgarian
+
9.1%
Irish
@
1.8
18
86.3%
Serbian
+
13.7%
Algerian_Jewish
@
1.84
19
83.6%
Serbian
+
16.4%
South_Italian
@
1.84
20
51.7%
South_Polish
+
48.3%
South_Italian
@
1.86
</tbody>
3.
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
27.28
2
North_Atlantic
21.42
3
East_Med
19.37
4
West_Med
19.35
5
West_Asian
9.81
6
Siberian
1.54
7
Northeast_African
0.54
8
Amerindian
0.45
9
Oceanian
0.15
10
South_Asian
0.06
11
Red_Sea
0.03
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Bulgarian
4.34
2
Romanian
4.97
3
Serbian
7.18
4
Moldavian
10.77
5
Greek_Thessaly
12.06
6
Croatian
13.56
7
Hungarian
14.44
8
Austrian
17.65
9
North_Italian
17.7
10
Tuscan
17.72
11
Central_Greek
19.06
12
Italian_Abruzzo
19.09
13
East_German
19.09
14
Ukrainian_Lviv
19.81
15
West_Sicilian
20.09
16
East_Sicilian
20.35
17
South_Polish
20.64
18
Ukrainian
20.75
19
Ashkenazi
21.49
20
West_German
22.03
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
88.5%
Bulgarian
+
11.5%
Ukrainian
@
3.42
2
91.1%
Bulgarian
+
8.9%
Kargopol_Russian
@
3.43
3
90.9%
Bulgarian
+
9.1%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.46
4
91.5%
Bulgarian
+
8.5%
Erzya
@
3.46
5
92.4%
Bulgarian
+
7.6%
Lithuanian
@
3.5
6
90.2%
Bulgarian
+
9.8%
Southwest_Russian
@
3.51
7
92.5%
Bulgarian
+
7.5%
Estonian
@
3.54
8
91.4%
Bulgarian
+
8.6%
Belorussian
@
3.54
9
92.7%
Bulgarian
+
7.3%
East_Finnish
@
3.56
10
91.3%
Bulgarian
+
8.7%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.58
11
84.2%
Bulgarian
+
15.8%
Croatian
@
3.58
12
88.9%
Bulgarian
+
11.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
3.59
13
90.8%
Bulgarian
+
9.2%
Polish
@
3.6
14
64%
Greek_Thessaly
+
36%
Ukrainian
@
3.6
15
89.4%
Bulgarian
+
10.6%
South_Polish
@
3.61
16
80.9%
Bulgarian
+
19.1%
Moldavian
@
3.62
17
91%
Bulgarian
+
9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
3.64
18
93%
Bulgarian
+
7%
Finnish
@
3.68
19
93.1%
Bulgarian
+
6.9%
Southwest_Finnish
@
3.78
20
94.9%
Bulgarian
+
5.1%
Mari
@
3.84
</tbody>
4.
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
27.72
2
North_Atlantic
21.86
3
East_Med
20.55
4
West_Med
15.87
5
West_Asian
10.14
6
Siberian
2.51
7
Amerindian
0.59
8
Red_Sea
0.47
9
Sub-Saharan
0.3
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Bulgarian
4.85
2
Romanian
5.05
3
Serbian
6.85
4
Moldavian
10.58
5
Greek_Thessaly
12.75
6
Croatian
13.37
7
Hungarian
13.78
8
Austrian
17.51
9
Tuscan
18.73
10
East_German
19.03
11
North_Italian
19.18
12
Ukrainian_Lviv
19.32
13
Italian_Abruzzo
19.43
14
Central_Greek
19.54
15
South_Polish
20.01
16
Ukrainian
20.29
17
West_Sicilian
20.78
18
East_Sicilian
20.8
19
Ashkenazi
21.36
20
West_German
21.97
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
88.1%
Bulgarian
+
11.9%
Erzya
@
3.19
2
89.4%
Bulgarian
+
10.6%
East_Finnish
@
3.24
3
88.1%
Bulgarian
+
11.9%
Kargopol_Russian
@
3.3
4
51.2%
Southwest_Russian
+
48.8%
South_Italian
@
3.31
5
86.5%
Bulgarian
+
13.5%
Southwest_Russian
@
3.35
6
90%
Bulgarian
+
10%
Chuvash
@
3.35
7
91.2%
Bulgarian
+
8.8%
Mari
@
3.35
8
64.6%
Greek_Thessaly
+
35.4%
Southwest_Russian
@
3.42
9
89.7%
Bulgarian
+
10.3%
Finnish
@
3.44
10
88.3%
Bulgarian
+
11.7%
Belorussian
@
3.46
11
88.2%
Bulgarian
+
11.8%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.48
12
89.9%
Bulgarian
+
10.1%
Estonian
@
3.51
13
90.2%
Bulgarian
+
9.8%
Lithuanian
@
3.54
14
87.4%
Bulgarian
+
12.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
3.54
15
88.6%
Bulgarian
+
11.4%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.63
16
53.9%
Central_Greek
+
46.1%
Southwest_Russian
@
3.64
17
86.2%
Bulgarian
+
13.8%
Ukrainian
@
3.66
18
51.3%
Ukrainian
+
48.7%
Ashkenazi
@
3.69
19
86.5%
Bulgarian
+
13.5%
South_Polish
@
3.75
20
90.1%
Bulgarian
+
9.9%
Southwest_Finnish
@
3.76
</tbody>
5.
<tbody>
#
Population
Percent
1
Baltic
26.32
2
East_Med
20.94
3
North_Atlantic
19.93
4
West_Med
17.29
5
West_Asian
11.99
6
Siberian
1.39
7
Amerindian
1.02
8
Red_Sea
0.79
9
Sub-Saharan
0.34
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Bulgarian
3.22
2
Romanian
5.16
3
Serbian
8.48
4
Greek_Thessaly
10.67
5
Moldavian
12.15
6
Croatian
15.25
7
Hungarian
16.01
8
Central_Greek
17.29
9
Italian_Abruzzo
17.65
10
Tuscan
17.71
11
East_Sicilian
18.69
12
North_Italian
18.76
13
West_Sicilian
19.13
14
Austrian
19.47
15
Ashkenazi
19.69
16
East_German
21.06
17
Ukrainian_Lviv
21.29
18
South_Italian
21.7
19
South_Polish
22.23
20
Ukrainian
22.36
</tbody>
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
95.6%
Bulgarian
+
4.4%
Mari
@
2.71
2
95%
Bulgarian
+
5%
Chuvash
@
2.71
3
94.5%
Bulgarian
+
5.5%
Erzya
@
2.74
4
95.4%
Bulgarian
+
4.6%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.91
5
94.7%
Bulgarian
+
5.3%
Tatar
@
2.92
6
94.8%
Bulgarian
+
5.2%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.93
7
98%
Bulgarian
+
2%
Selkup
@
2.93
8
95.1%
Bulgarian
+
4.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.95
9
98.1%
Bulgarian
+
1.9%
Ket
@
2.98
10
97.4%
Bulgarian
+
2.6%
MA-1
@
2.98
11
96.6%
Bulgarian
+
3.4%
Lithuanian
@
3.01
12
96%
Bulgarian
+
4%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.01
13
96.3%
Bulgarian
+
3.7%
Belorussian
@
3.04
14
96.9%
Bulgarian
+
3.1%
East_Finnish
@
3.04
15
96.2%
Bulgarian
+
3.8%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.04
16
95.7%
Bulgarian
+
4.3%
Ukrainian
@
3.06
17
98.6%
Bulgarian
+
1.4%
West_Greenlander
@
3.08
18
59.1%
Central_Greek
+
40.9%
Southwest_Russian
@
3.08
19
97.2%
Bulgarian
+
2.8%
Estonian
@
3.09
20
98.4%
Bulgarian
+
1.6%
Shors
@
3.1
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
07-27-2020, 10:39 PM
From Brasov
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.17
2 North_Atlantic 22.89
3 West_Med 17.33
4 East_Med 16.97
5 West_Asian 11.96
6 Red_Sea 2.49
7 Amerindian 1.15
8 East_Asian 0.71
9 Oceanian 0.33
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.61
2 Bulgarian 3.61
3 Serbian 4.98
4 Moldavian 9.39
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.3
6 Croatian 12.38
7 Hungarian 12.69
8 Austrian 15.7
9 North_Italian 17.35
10 East_German 17.4
11 Tuscan 17.54
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.5
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.76
14 Central_Greek 19.06
15 South_Polish 19.69
16 West_German 20
17 Ukrainian 20.1
18 West_Sicilian 20.18
19 East_Sicilian 20.4
20 French 20.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.7% Croatian + 39.3% Central_Greek @ 1.49
2 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% Moldavian @ 1.53
3 79.1% Bulgarian + 20.9% Croatian @ 1.56
4 85.3% Bulgarian + 14.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.62
5 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Polish @ 1.7
6 86.3% Bulgarian + 13.7% South_Polish @ 1.81
7 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% Ukrainian @ 1.81
8 67.3% Moldavian + 32.7% Central_Greek @ 1.82
9 89% Bulgarian + 11% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.85
10 51.3% Central_Greek + 48.7% Ukrainian @ 1.87
11 54.9% Central_Greek + 45.1% Polish @ 1.9
12 90.8% Bulgarian + 9.2% Estonian @ 1.92
13 50.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.6% Central_Greek @ 1.93
14 71.8% Moldavian + 28.2% South_Italian @ 1.93
15 91% Bulgarian + 9% Lithuanian @ 1.94
16 88.4% Bulgarian + 11.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.96
17 65.7% Croatian + 34.3% South_Italian @ 1.98
18 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% Estonian_Polish @ 1.99
19 80.8% Bulgarian + 19.2% Hungarian @ 2.03
20 89.8% Bulgarian + 10.2% Belorussian @ 2.03
<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
2.57101147
Romanian_Oltenia
2.81048039
Romania_Banat
2.82922251
Romania_Transylvania
2.88133650
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.31472472
Romania_Dobruja
3.64024724
Romania_Muntenia
4.11318611
Bulgarian
5.87845218
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.98874778
Romania_Crisana
6.20131438
Romania_Maramures
7.85578131
Romania_Moldavia_Csango
7.89870243
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
7.93064941
Vlach_North-Macedonia
8.89126211
Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
9.21618657
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
13.20790672
Vlach_Central-Macedonia
15.96527169
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.42001634
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.14393620
Crimean_Tatar
27.35571056
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
29.07560833
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
29.50879360
Romania_Wallachia_Roma
32.20555232
R.Moldova_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 2.0838% / 2.08382671 | ADC: 0.25x
46.0 Romanian_Oltenia
39.0 Romania_Banat
10.0 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.0 Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
0.0 Romania_Wallachia_Roma
0.0 R.Moldova_Roma
0.0 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
0.0 Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
0.0 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
0.0 Romania_Muntenia
0.0 Romania_Transylvania
0.0 Romania_Dobruja
0.0 Romania_Maramures
0.0 Romania_Crisana
Coastal Elite
07-27-2020, 11:11 PM
Continued
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.551623
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Moldavian +25% Polish @ 2.178683
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Assyrian + Croatian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 1.134130
2 Assyrian + Croatian + South_Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.332502
3 Assyrian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.363480
4 Assyrian + Moldavian + Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.431618
5 Assyrian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.433481
6 Assyrian + Croatian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 1.481623
7 Assyrian + Croatian + Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.528684
8 Lithuanian + Romanian + Spanish_Valencia + Turkish @ 1.539381
9 Assyrian + Croatian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.549948
10 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Turkish @ 1.599542
11 Assyrian + Croatian + Estonian_Polish + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.600937
12 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cantabria + Turkish @ 1.614026
13 Assyrian + Croatian + Polish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.627902
14 Assyrian + South_Polish + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian @ 1.631067
15 Croatian + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 1.632446
16 Assyrian + Lithuanian + Serbian + Southwest_French @ 1.654103
17 Assyrian + Hungarian + Southwest_French + Southwest_Russian @ 1.684411
18 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_French + Turkish @ 1.694054
19 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Southwest_French + Turkish @ 1.718240
20 Assyrian + Croatian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.727337
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 17.38
2 Atlantic 14.79
3 Baltic 14.6
4 West_Med 13.82
5 East_Med 12.54
6 West_Asian 11.56
7 Eastern_Euro 10.17
8 Red_Sea 2.02
9 South_Asian 1.62
10 Amerindian 0.55
11 Oceanian 0.48
12 Siberian 0.29
13 Northeast_African 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.05
2 Serbian 4.91
3 Bulgarian 5.5
4 Moldavian 9.29
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.09
6 Hungarian 11.25
7 Croatian 11.53
8 Austrian 11.8
9 Greek 12.84
10 Tuscan 14.29
11 North_Italian 14.33
12 East_German 14.92
13 Italian_Abruzzo 16.14
14 French 16.82
15 Central_Greek 17.24
16 Ashkenazi 17.25
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.35
18 Spanish_Galicia 17.57
19 West_German 17.86
20 South_Dutch 17.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Moldavian + 36% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.45
2 92.2% Romanian + 7.8% West_German @ 2.66
3 92.4% Romanian + 7.6% French @ 2.73
4 92.8% Romanian + 7.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.74
5 61.3% Moldavian + 38.7% Tuscan @ 2.76
6 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.78
7 98% Romanian + 2% Gujarati @ 2.8
8 94.9% Romanian + 5.1% Southwest_English @ 2.8
9 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Norwegian @ 2.8
10 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% West_Norwegian @ 2.8
11 97.9% Romanian + 2.1% Brahmin_UP @ 2.8
12 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Kol @ 2.8
13 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% Orcadian @ 2.8
14 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Kalash @ 2.81
15 98% Romanian + 2% Kshatriya @ 2.81
16 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Burusho @ 2.82
17 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.82
18 98.4% Romanian + 1.6% Dusadh @ 2.82
19 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Bangladeshi @ 2.82
20 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Dharkar @ 2.82
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanian +50% Romanian @ 3.451226
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +25% Romanian +25% Tuscan @ 3.008139
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 2.342990
2 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.347114
3 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.373032
4 Armenian + Moldavian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.393298
5 Kurdish + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 2.446564
6 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian_Lviv + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.480319
7 Moldavian + Spanish_Galicia + Turkish + Ukrainian @ 2.538101
8 Moldavian + Spanish_Galicia + Turkish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.602707
9 Armenian + Moldavian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 2.612052
10 Armenian + Croatian + Portuguese + Ukrainian @ 2.615440
11 Moldavian + Portuguese + Turkish + Ukrainian @ 2.616029
12 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.633990
13 Armenian + Hungarian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.658849
14 Armenian + Portuguese + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.661041
15 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + East_German + Moldavian @ 2.667048
16 Armenian + Spanish_Extremadura + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.667111
17 Kurdish + Lithuanian + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 2.683849
18 Moldavian + Portuguese + Turkish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.691943
19 Central_Greek + East_German + Moldavian + Romanian @ 2.713251
20 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.715545
Same person from Făgăraș using Vahaduo K 13 Updated
Distance to:
3.16703331 Romanian_Oltenia
3.42109632 Montenegrin
3.69636308 Romania_Transylvania
3.89105384 Romanian_Wallachia
4.34615494 Macedonian
4.36463057 Macedonian_Northwest
4.39433727 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.41909493 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.43095926 Bosniak_Sandzak
4.59248299 Moldova_South
4.62763438 Romania_Muntenia
4.68862453 Romania_Moldavia_average
5.05115828 Romania_Dobruja
5.17122809 Bulgarian_Central
5.26727634 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.35316729 Romania_Banat
5.44832084 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.53032549 Serb_Serbia_South&East
5.57096042 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
5.64722056 Bulgarian
5.66181950 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
5.83671140 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
5.97300594 Bulgarian_Pleven
6.01536366 Serb_Herzegovina
6.11125857 North_Macedonian
Target: RomoJoe
Distance: 0.9164% / 0.91635075 | ADC: 0.25x
35.8 Romanian_Oltenia
15.8 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
14.8 Montenegrin
13.6 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
5.8 Bulgarian_Burgas
5.0 Swiss_French
4.8 Bulgarian_Central
1.4 West_German
1.0 Brahmin_UP
1.0 Bulgarian_Southwest
1.0 Punjabi_Jat
Target: RomoJoe
Distance: 1.7868% / 1.78675426 | ADC: 0.5x
58.8 Romanian_Oltenia
22.0 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
15.8 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
1.6 Swiss_French
1.6 West_German
0.2 Brahmin_UP
Ion Basescul
07-28-2020, 07:22 PM
From Bihor
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.1
2 North_Atlantic 24.53
3 West_Med 18.74
4 East_Med 17.26
5 West_Asian 10.33
6 Siberian 1.6
7 Red_Sea 1.3
8 East_Asian 0.91
9 Oceanian 0.16
10 Sub-Saharan 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.46
2 Bulgarian 4.19
3 Serbian 4.55
4 Moldavian 10.24
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.08
6 Hungarian 12.45
7 Croatian 12.94
8 Austrian 14.93
9 North_Italian 15.23
10 Tuscan 16.01
11 East_German 16.75
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.01
13 West_German 18.64
14 French 18.8
15 Central_Greek 18.98
16 West_Sicilian 19.34
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.46
18 Portuguese 19.86
19 South_Polish 20.06
20 South_Dutch 20.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.2% Bulgarian + 17.8% East_German @ 2.16
2 95.6% Romanian + 4.4% Southwest_French @ 2.19
3 97.2% Romanian + 2.8% Sardinian @ 2.21
4 80.6% Bulgarian + 19.4% Austrian @ 2.21
5 97.3% Romanian + 2.7% French_Basque @ 2.24
6 96.2% Romanian + 3.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.27
7 97% Romanian + 3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.32
8 96.5% Romanian + 3.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.32
9 96.4% Romanian + 3.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.33
10 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.33
11 96.8% Romanian + 3.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.33
12 96.4% Romanian + 3.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.34
13 96.8% Romanian + 3.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.35
14 96.6% Romanian + 3.4% Ukrainian @ 2.35
15 94.8% Romanian + 5.2% Croatian @ 2.35
16 96% Romanian + 4% East_German @ 2.36
17 93.5% Romanian + 6.5% Moldavian @ 2.36
18 85.1% Romanian + 14.9% Serbian @ 2.36
19 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Portuguese @ 2.36
20 97.1% Romanian + 2.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.37
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_ind
1.66511261
Montenegrin
1.85596336
Romanian_Oltenia
1.91170081
Romania_Transylvania
2.59138959
Romania_Moldavia_South
2.71114367
Macedonian_Northwest
2.95956655
Macedonian
3.03418852
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.03815734
Romanian_Wallachia
3.54152510
Serb_Serbia_South&East
3.59157347
Moldova_South
3.62975206
Romania_Moldavia_average
3.96916868
Romania_Banat
4.06901708
Bulgarian_Central
4.12532423
Romania_Dobruja
4.42315498
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.44061933
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.44455847
Romania_Muntenia
4.52069685
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.57157522
Serb_Herzegovina
4.74725184
Bulgarian
4.81761352
Romania_Crisana
5.00209956
Serb_Serbia
5.00242941
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.14503644
Serb
5.32177602
Bulgarian_Sofia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_ind
1.85596336
Romanian_Oltenia
1.91170081
Romania_Transylvania
2.87436950
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.96916868
Romania_Banat
4.12532423
Romania_Dobruja
4.44455847
Romania_Muntenia
4.74725184
Bulgarian
4.81761352
Romania_Crisana
6.46804453
Romania_Maramures
6.51824363
Romania_Moldavia_North
7.50462524
Romania_Moldavia_Csango
7.60613568
Vlach_North-Macedonia
7.98903190
Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
8.14393026
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
8.61143230
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
12.45912116
Vlach_Central-Macedonia
16.34332280
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
22.16366847
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.55688800
Crimean_Tatar
27.06225785
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
29.17369534
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
30.14764667
Romania_Wallachia_Roma
32.74551114
R.Moldova_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Bihor_ind
Distance: 1.6317% / 1.63172348 | ADC: 0.25x
45.6 Romanian_Oltenia
43.8 Romania_Transylvania
6.4 Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
3.8 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
0.4 Vlach_North-Macedonia
-Oltenia
Target: Bihor_ind
Distance: 1.6370% / 1.63697051 | ADC: 0.25x
83.4 Romania_Transylvania
9.2 Vlach_North-Macedonia
5.4 Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
2.0 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_ind
1.67579832
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
2.05048775
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
2.32967809
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
2.97319693
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.06478384
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.21610012
Romania_Crisana_Arad
3.36316815
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.47296703
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.66352289
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.52772105
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.59669545
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.63386765
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.50531811
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.17964547
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.94842444
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.64633609
Romania_Transylvania_RomaMixed
11.42257852
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
07-28-2020, 07:31 PM
From Mures
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.54
2 North_Atlantic 24.49
3 East_Med 16.8
4 West_Med 13.4
5 West_Asian 9.93
6 Red_Sea 2.35
7 Siberian 1.77
8 Oceanian 0.41
9 East_Asian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.54
2 Moldavian 6.47
3 Romanian 6.63
4 Bulgarian 8.29
5 Croatian 8.83
6 Hungarian 9.38
7 Austrian 13.64
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.6
9 East_German 14.93
10 South_Polish 15.22
11 Ukrainian 15.81
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.91
13 Southwest_Russian 18.28
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.57
15 Polish 18.81
16 West_German 19.42
17 Russian_Smolensk 20.45
18 Tatar 20.72
19 Estonian_Polish 20.92
20 South_Dutch 21.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.8% Southwest_Russian + 44.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.53
2 71.5% South_Polish + 28.5% Cyprian @ 1.78
3 52.6% Belorussian + 47.4% Central_Greek @ 1.95
4 56.9% Belorussian + 43.1% South_Italian @ 2.06
5 51.8% Central_Greek + 48.2% Estonian @ 2.1
6 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Finnish @ 2.15
7 76.5% Bulgarian + 23.5% East_Finnish @ 2.23
8 51.9% Belorussian + 48.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.24
9 57.5% Southwest_Russian + 42.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.27
10 72.7% Bulgarian + 27.3% Belorussian @ 2.3
11 52.4% Estonian_Polish + 47.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
12 57.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.32
13 83.4% Croatian + 16.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.33
14 62.9% South_Polish + 37.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.33
15 74.5% Romanian + 25.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.4
16 53.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 46.9% Lithuanian @ 2.41
17 55.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.42
18 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% South_Italian @ 2.42
19 74.7% South_Polish + 25.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.45
20 76.2% Bulgarian + 23.8% Estonian @ 2.46
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
3.25439703
Moldova_average
3.40191123
Romania_Moldavia_North
3.71799677
Moldova_Centre
4.17058749
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.24688121
Bosniak
4.27420745
Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.33525086
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.45429007
Serb_Serbia
4.53065117
Romania_Moldavia_average
4.53445697
Serb
4.66607972
Serb_Croatia
4.69330374
Romania_Maramures
4.76361207
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.82753560
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
4.84430916
Hungarian_Csango
4.97361036
Serb_Herzegovina
4.98115448
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
4.98949897
Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
4.99295504
Serb_B&H
5.05916001
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.12444143
Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
5.12806981
Croat_B&H
5.28585849
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.45463106
Bulgarian_Pleven
5.46776920
Romania_Crisana
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
2.70225831
Romania_Moldavia_North
4.69330374
Romania_Maramures
4.85828159
Romania_Moldavia_Csango
5.46776920
Romania_Crisana
5.57136429
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.47262698
Romania_Transylvania
6.78400879
Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
6.97432295
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.33400300
Romania_Banat
7.43164181
Romanian_Oltenia
8.07904697
Romania_Muntenia
8.28873935
Romania_Dobruja
9.33570030
Bulgarian
10.97534965
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.83172241
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.70561199
Vlach_North-Macedonia
16.77472205
Ukrainian_Lviv
18.55515562
Vlach_Central-Macedonia
26.49507501
Crimean_Tatar
27.98064688
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
31.28173429
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
32.59073641
Romania_Wallachia_Roma
35.04731944
R.Moldova_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Mures_ind
Distance: 2.6520% / 2.65201928 | ADC: 0.25x
97.6 Romania_Moldavia_North
1.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
1.2 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
-Moldavia, Ukrainians, Hungarians
Target: Mures_ind
Distance: 4.3609% / 4.36085609 | ADC: 0.25x
74.8 Romania_Maramures
13.4 Romania_Crisana
8.8 Romania_Muntenia
3.0 Crimean_Tatar
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
4.31085838
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
4.55891434
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.41205137
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.42765143
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.02755340
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.31937497
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.88855573
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.98766055
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.09884498
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
7.32551705
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.71734410
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.84939488
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
8.17598312
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.42328914
Romania_Crisana_Arad
8.56399440
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
9.05882443
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
11.61683692
Romania_Transylvania_RomaMixed
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
07-28-2020, 07:40 PM
Transylvanian Hungarian from Maramures
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.53
2 North_Atlantic 29.33
3 West_Med 14.47
4 East_Med 12.27
5 West_Asian 5.83
6 Red_Sea 1.76
7 Amerindian 1.25
8 South_Asian 0.83
9 Siberian 0.83
10 East_Asian 0.45
11 Sub-Saharan 0.28
12 Oceanian 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.96
2 Croatian 4.84
3 Moldavian 5.86
4 Serbian 6.84
5 Austrian 8.25
6 East_German 8.71
7 South_Polish 10.59
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.68
9 Romanian 11.04
10 Ukrainian 11.71
11 Bulgarian 13.52
12 Polish 14.15
13 West_German 15.37
14 Southwest_Russian 15.49
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.05
16 South_Dutch 16.7
17 Russian_Smolensk 16.75
18 Estonian_Polish 17.08
19 Belorussian 17.48
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.92
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.5% Polish + 36.5% Tuscan @ 1.84
2 52.5% Lithuanian + 47.5% Tuscan @ 1.91
3 58.8% Southwest_Russian + 41.2% North_Italian @ 1.94
4 54.1% Estonian + 45.9% Tuscan @ 1.98
5 70.1% South_Polish + 29.9% Tuscan @ 1.99
6 58.4% Belorussian + 41.6% Tuscan @ 2.02
7 59% Estonian_Polish + 41% Tuscan @ 2.13
8 55.8% Belorussian + 44.2% North_Italian @ 2.16
9 58% Estonian + 42% West_Sicilian @ 2.24
10 56.4% Estonian_Polish + 43.6% North_Italian @ 2.27
11 76.3% Serbian + 23.7% Estonian @ 2.36
12 59.5% Russian_Smolensk + 40.5% Tuscan @ 2.38
13 73.5% South_Polish + 26.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.44
14 68% Ukrainian + 32% Tuscan @ 2.44
15 56.9% Russian_Smolensk + 43.1% North_Italian @ 2.46
16 73.6% Serbian + 26.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.55
17 67.2% Polish + 32.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.58
18 58% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42% North_Italian @ 2.58
19 68.8% Serbian + 31.2% Polish @ 2.64
20 57.2% Bulgarian + 42.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.66
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_Hungarian
2.27892539
Hungarian_Alfold
2.47388359
Croat_Croatia
2.61005566
Hungarian
2.70042589
Croat
3.07814879
Croat_B&H_Bosnia
3.22069409
Slovenian
3.24394821
Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
3.53754152
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
3.56969186
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
3.65900260
Croat_Croatia_Central
3.66492951
Hungarian_Budapest
3.87678816
Hungarian_Transdanubia
4.53287988
Croat_B&H
4.69013859
Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
4.69715057
Hungarian_Transylvania
4.79483055
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.92970587
Moldova_North
5.02557459
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.04614705
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
5.09739522
Hungarian_Northern
5.15518186
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
5.22564829
Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
5.41468606
Hungarian_Szekely
5.44779600
Hungarian_Csango
5.63901587
Serb_B&H
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_Hungarian
4.69715057
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
5.41468606
Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
5.44705425
Romania_Moldavia_Csango
6.92226841
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
7.21767968
Romania_Moldavia_North
7.58209734
Romania_Maramures
7.74505003
Romania_Crisana
10.21227693
Romania_Moldavia_South
11.22008913
Romania_Transylvania
12.18075531
Ukrainian_Lviv
12.35980582
Romanian_Oltenia
13.40405536
Romania_Banat
14.38573947
Romania_Muntenia
14.47631514
Romania_Dobruja
15.52034149
Bulgarian
18.55995690
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
18.67237264
Vlach_North-Macedonia
23.63905032
Vlach_Central-Macedonia
30.52536159
Crimean_Tatar
30.63128303
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
36.88721730
Romania_Wallachia_Roma
37.24899462
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
39.13116022
R.Moldova_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Maramures_Hungarian
Distance: 2.6185% / 2.61851966 | ADC: 0.25x
58.0 Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
42.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
-Ukrainian
Target: Maramures_Hungarian
Distance: 4.6972% / 4.69715057 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_Hungarian
3.73029489
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
3.80571938
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
6.43544870
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
6.98362370
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.04222318
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.83782496
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
11.00194983
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
11.03673412
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
11.20064730
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
11.37898502
Romania_Crisana_Arad
11.58133844
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
11.71346661
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
12.11811867
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
12.27906755
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
12.71828998
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
13.20182184
Romania_Banat_Timis
15.81820470
Romania_Transylvania_RomaMixed
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
07-28-2020, 07:45 PM
From Maramures
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.25
2 North_Atlantic 25.18
3 West_Med 16.41
4 East_Med 14.88
5 West_Asian 7.29
6 Red_Sea 3.43
7 South_Asian 2.84
8 Amerindian 1.14
9 East_Asian 0.55
10 Siberian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.94
2 Romanian 6.15
3 Moldavian 7.16
4 Bulgarian 8.3
5 Croatian 9.12
6 Hungarian 9.21
7 Austrian 12.41
8 East_German 13.68
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.47
10 Greek_Thessaly 15.88
11 South_Polish 16.23
12 Ukrainian 16.78
13 West_German 17.64
14 North_Italian 18.28
15 French 18.7
16 South_Dutch 19.03
17 Polish 19.59
18 Tuscan 19.68
19 Southwest_Russian 20.16
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.51
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.3% Polish + 45.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.57
2 60.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 39.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.6
3 72.5% Croatian + 27.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.64
4 58.2% Ukrainian + 41.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.67
5 51.6% Russian_Smolensk + 48.4% West_Sicilian @ 2.69
6 78.7% Croatian + 21.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.73
7 78.7% Croatian + 21.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.74
8 78.6% Croatian + 21.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.77
9 54.1% West_Sicilian + 45.9% Lithuanian @ 2.77
10 51.2% Estonian_Polish + 48.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.79
11 55.4% Greek_Thessaly + 44.6% Polish @ 2.8
12 64.4% Croatian + 35.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.91
13 74.4% Croatian + 25.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.97
14 94.5% Serbian + 5.5% MA-1 @ 2.98
15 73.5% Croatian + 26.5% East_Sicilian @ 3.03
16 58.3% Polish + 41.7% South_Italian @ 3.05
17 80.5% Croatian + 19.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.05
18 50.6% Greek_Thessaly + 49.4% South_Polish @ 3.06
19 80.5% Croatian + 19.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.06
20 75.9% Croatian + 24.1% South_Italian @ 3.07
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_ind
3.68955282
Romania_Crisana
3.71712254
Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
3.85373601
Hungarian_Csango
3.85731772
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.89497112
Serb_Croatia
3.89522785
Serb
3.90832445
Romania_Maramures
4.10802872
Serb_B&H
4.13681037
Serb_Serbia
4.25726438
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.29842995
Bosniak
4.46888129
Serb_Herzegovina
4.54071580
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.56618002
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
4.58702518
Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.68395132
Moldova_average
4.82620969
Romania_Moldavia_average
4.87110966
Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.90779991
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.97661532
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.99629863
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.18863180
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.35514706
Serb_Serbia_South&East
5.41919736
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
5.43149235
Hungarian_Transylvania
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_ind
3.68955282
Romania_Crisana
3.87003876
Romania_Moldavia_Csango
3.90832445
Romania_Maramures
4.38046801
Romania_Moldavia_North
4.81061327
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.43149235
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
5.60653190
Romania_Transylvania
5.60854979
Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
6.52246886
Romanian_Oltenia
7.39009472
Romania_Banat
8.25868634
Romania_Muntenia
8.29376272
Romania_Dobruja
9.52537663
Bulgarian
11.78613592
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.08657106
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
12.24164613
Vlach_North-Macedonia
17.21345114
Vlach_Central-Macedonia
17.59010517
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.83034854
Crimean_Tatar
29.38187366
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
30.69786638
Romania_Wallachia_Roma
30.96668855
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
33.12689391
R.Moldova_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Maramures_ind
Distance: 2.6710% / 2.67102562 | ADC: 0.25x
35.6 Romania_Crisana
28.6 Romania_Maramures
24.8 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
6.8 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
4.2 Romania_Wallachia_Roma
-Csango, Hungarian, Szekely
Target: Maramures_ind
Distance: 2.6007% / 2.60069280 | ADC: 0.25x
68.6 Romania_Crisana
19.4 Romania_Maramures
7.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
5.0 R.Moldova_Roma
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_ind
3.86766079
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.34994253
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.19946151
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.34279889
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.85536506
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.87297199
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.90210979
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.94895789
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.08068253
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.11588914
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.56163089
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.80409436
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.13597225
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.37609653
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.79340105
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
8.10850788
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
9.49792609
Romania_Transylvania_RomaMixed
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
07-28-2020, 07:51 PM
Another Romanian from Maramures
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.68
2 North_Atlantic 23.56
3 East_Med 13.54
4 West_Med 13.04
5 West_Asian 10.8
6 Red_Sea 2.02
7 East_Asian 1.58
8 Amerindian 1.49
9 Siberian 0.77
10 Oceanian 0.52
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.98
2 Croatian 6.56
3 Serbian 6.87
4 Hungarian 8.95
5 Romanian 9.2
6 Bulgarian 10.73
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.88
8 South_Polish 13.02
9 Ukrainian 13.19
10 Austrian 13.57
11 East_German 14.33
12 Southwest_Russian 15.69
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.74
14 Polish 16.3
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.86
16 Estonian_Polish 18.48
17 Belorussian 19.07
18 Tatar 19.26
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.56
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.05
2 59.7% Bulgarian + 40.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.05
3 66.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33.7% South_Italian @ 2.22
4 63.6% Romanian + 36.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.26
5 62.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.3% Central_Greek @ 2.3
6 63.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.35
7 62.3% Southwest_Russian + 37.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.38
8 55.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.38
9 59.7% Bulgarian + 40.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.38
10 88% Croatian + 12% Assyrian @ 2.44
11 88.4% Croatian + 11.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.47
12 88% Croatian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.47
13 62.9% Bulgarian + 37.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.54
14 88.4% Croatian + 11.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.54
15 63.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.57
16 63.7% Romanian + 36.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.59
17 62.8% Southwest_Russian + 37.2% Central_Greek @ 2.6
18 77.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.3% Cyprian @ 2.6
19 75.7% Ukrainian + 24.3% Cyprian @ 2.61
20 76.3% Ukrainian + 23.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.62
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_ind
3.95094200
Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.07019656
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
4.48322429
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.56018640
Moldova_average
4.59724918
Moldova_North
4.64326394
Moldova_Centre
4.73506072
Bosniak
4.75132613
Croat_B&H
5.07139034
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
5.11604339
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.13856984
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
5.25767059
Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
5.30309344
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
5.63928187
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
5.70092098
Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.73625313
Serb_B&H
5.83767933
Romania_Maramures
5.89496395
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.90013559
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.04923136
Croat
6.14021172
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.17717573
Serb_Croatia
6.21142546
Hungarian_Csango
6.24628690
Croat_B&H_Bosnia
6.38183359
Croat_Croatia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_ind
4.61896092
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.83767933
Romania_Maramures
6.21289787
Romania_Moldavia_Csango
7.35924263
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.81704069
Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
7.92926857
Romania_Moldavia_South
8.09985802
Romania_Crisana
8.97534958
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.16136998
Romania_Transylvania
9.81886959
Romania_Banat
10.11085061
Romanian_Oltenia
10.97693946
Romania_Dobruja
10.99339802
Romania_Muntenia
12.16463316
Bulgarian
13.60689899
Ukrainian_Lviv
15.91160268
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
16.40005488
Vlach_North-Macedonia
21.65189599
Vlach_Central-Macedonia
26.08810840
Crimean_Tatar
27.14271541
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
33.74036010
Romania_Wallachia_Roma
34.74923740
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
36.19449682
R.Moldova_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Maramures_ind
Distance: 3.0945% / 3.09445454 | ADC: 0.25x
77.2 Romania_Moldavia_North
19.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.8 Crimean_Tatar
-Moldavia, Ukrainian
Target: Maramures_ind
Distance: 5.3874% / 5.38737312 | ADC: 0.25x
81.0 Romania_Maramures
13.2 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
5.8 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_ind
4.11432862
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.57554482
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.38517032
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.53642488
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
7.85284662
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.44727175
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
8.92184398
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
8.93359950
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
9.26198683
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
9.44500397
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
9.53851141
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
9.83174450
Romania_Banat_Timis
10.16841187
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
10.79208043
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
11.09960810
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
11.33567819
Romania_Crisana_Arad
13.45900814
Romania_Transylvania_RomaMixed
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
07-28-2020, 08:00 PM
Does Arad have a solid history of ethnic presence?
All but one of my samples from there seem to have more North Atlantic than Baltic, but they all report only Romanian ancestry in their family trees.
https://i.imgur.com/A23oI4Z.png
This new sample from today is no exception to that.
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.05
2 Baltic 21.87
3 West_Med 19.47
4 East_Med 15.09
5 West_Asian 12.26
6 South_Asian 1.71
7 Red_Sea 1.59
8 Siberian 1.26
9 Oceanian 0.38
10 East_Asian 0.3
11 Amerindian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.61
2 Bulgarian 6.44
3 Serbian 6.62
4 Greek_Thessaly 12.06
5 Moldavian 12.14
6 North_Italian 13.16
7 Hungarian 13.41
8 Tuscan 14.51
9 Austrian 14.78
10 Croatian 14.8
11 Italian_Abruzzo 16.69
12 French 16.72
13 East_German 16.83
14 West_German 17.12
15 Portuguese 17.69
16 Spanish_Galicia 18.05
17 West_Sicilian 18.37
18 Central_Greek 18.39
19 South_Dutch 18.51
20 Spanish_Extremadura 18.62
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.4% Romanian + 9.6% French_Basque @ 2.88
2 85.5% Romanian + 14.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.13
3 86.5% Romanian + 13.5% Southwest_French @ 3.15
4 86.2% Romanian + 13.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.16
5 86.2% Romanian + 13.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.2
6 87.8% Romanian + 12.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.24
7 85.1% Romanian + 14.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.32
8 84.7% Romanian + 15.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.33
9 85.3% Romanian + 14.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
10 86.3% Romanian + 13.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.42
11 86.3% Romanian + 13.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.45
12 86.2% Bulgarian + 13.8% French_Basque @ 3.46
13 86.5% Romanian + 13.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.46
14 85.1% Romanian + 14.9% Portuguese @ 3.47
15 54.8% Moldavian + 45.2% Tuscan @ 3.5
16 81.3% Romanian + 18.7% North_Italian @ 3.58
17 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% French @ 3.6
18 52.3% East_German + 47.7% Central_Greek @ 3.61
19 85.2% Romanian + 14.8% French @ 3.64
20 80.3% Bulgarian + 19.7% Southwest_French @ 3.74
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind
5.34905599
Macedonian_Northwest
5.36075554
Romanian_Oltenia
5.43473090
Montenegrin
5.83532347
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.97625301
Bulgarian_Central
6.07205896
Romania_Transylvania
6.22492570
Romanian_Wallachia
6.28728876
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
6.46400804
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.48875951
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
6.53918889
Macedonian
6.60679054
North_Macedonian
6.63700987
Moldova_South
6.80064703
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.07481449
Romania_Muntenia
7.14645367
Romania_Dobruja
7.25683126
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
7.31467019
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
7.41171370
Bulgarian
7.44478341
Vlach_North-Macedonia
7.47547992
Romania_Moldavia_average
7.56333921
Bulgarian_Serres
7.62710954
Romania_Banat
7.98166023
Serb_Serbia_South&East
8.00592905
Bulgarian_Southwest
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind
5.36075554
Romanian_Oltenia
6.07205896
Romania_Transylvania
6.61589752
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.07481449
Romania_Muntenia
7.14645367
Romania_Dobruja
7.41171370
Bulgarian
7.44478341
Vlach_North-Macedonia
7.62710954
Romania_Banat
8.29206247
Romania_Crisana
9.42176515
Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
9.46109402
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.69054178
Romania_Moldavia_North
9.89985353
Romania_Maramures
9.91472138
Romania_Moldavia_Csango
10.00212952
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
12.31263579
Vlach_Central-Macedonia
19.19444451
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
24.10602622
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.43969364
Crimean_Tatar
27.20470731
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
28.29910069
Romania_Wallachia_Roma
29.88486574
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
30.81986048
R.Moldova_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Arad_ind
Distance: 3.9912% / 3.99117521 | ADC: 0.25x
54.6 Vlach_North-Macedonia
42.6 Romania_Transylvania_Szekely
2.8 R.Moldova_Roma
-Vlachs, Hungarians
Target: Arad_ind
Distance: 5.2020% / 5.20198327 | ADC: 0.25x
96.8 Romanian_Oltenia
3.2 R.Moldova_Roma
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind
5.14383126
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.33370415
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.43000921
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.49958180
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.02271533
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.43659071
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.55831533
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.81285550
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.38088071
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
7.77403370
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.12268053
Romania_Transylvania_RomaMixed
9.75625953
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
9.80361668
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
10.31335542
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
10.90465038
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
12.16603880
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
13.21929650
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 02:47 PM
From Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.70263420
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.72172003
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.14004831
Serb_Serbia
4.14818032
Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.17611063
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.20984560
Serb
4.32074068
Romania_Transylvania
4.60495385
Romania_Maramures
4.61980519
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.63826476
Romania_Moldavia_average
4.67505080
Serb_Croatia
4.67903836
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.74234119
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.92909728
Serb_Croatia_Lika
4.94448177
Bulgarian_Sofia
4.98048190
Serb_B&H
4.98108422
Montenegrin
5.06056321
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.07371659
Moldova_Centre
5.07397280
Moldova_average
5.14336466
Romanian_Oltenia
5.21682854
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.23693613
Romania_Banat
5.60275825
Bulgarian_Pleven
5.67277710
Romania_Crisana
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.72172003
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.32074068
Romania_Transilvania
4.60495385
Romania_Maramures
5.14336466
Romania_Oltenia
5.23693613
Romania_Banat
5.67277710
Romania_Crisana
5.90683502
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.52978560
Romania_Dobrogea
6.91402922
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.08929475
Romania_Muntenia
7.63807567
Bulgarian
7.78554489
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.99632330
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.73491034
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
11.29290928
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.87615220
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.68514265
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
19.39727300
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.68403830
Crimean_Tatar
28.54338277
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.44134360
Romania_Jewish
32.92281732
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 3.5001% / 3.50012560 | ADC: 0.25x
62.4 Romania_Moldova_Sud
31.0 Romania_Maramures
6.0 Romania_Banat
0.6 Romania_Roma
-Moldavia
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 3.5527% / 3.55267568 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Romania_Maramures
39.4 Romania_Transilvania
12.2 Romania_Banat
0.6 Romania_Roma
0.2 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.35149220
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.75287889
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.55914466
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.57446172
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.65870154
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.71403224
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.98298104
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.10304811
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.21023992
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.77814849
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
6.43190485
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.44518425
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.62196346
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.06857836
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.51681278
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.65497281
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.26991723
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
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Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 02:53 PM
Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
2.96280273
Bulgarian_Sofia
2.98881247
Romania_Banat
3.71212183
Macedonian
3.76662979
Serb_Serbia_South&East
3.89994872
Romania_Dobruja
3.98026381
Romanian_Wallachia
3.98455769
Moldova_South
4.01680221
Romania_Transylvania
4.22146894
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.29079247
Romanian_Oltenia
4.31856458
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.36428688
Romania_Muntenia
4.52558284
Pomak_Plovdiv
4.56189654
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.66577968
Bulgarian
4.77964434
Macedonian_Northwest
4.85842567
Montenegrin
4.90768785
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.99243428
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.29033080
Macedonian_North
5.47070379
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.74426671
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
5.88765658
Serb_Serbia
5.89727056
Bulgarian_Central
5.94379508
Macedonian_East
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
2.98881247
Romania_Banat
3.89994872
Romania_Dobrogea
4.01680221
Romania_Transilvania
4.29079247
Romania_Oltenia
4.36428688
Romania_Muntenia
4.56189654
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.66577968
Bulgarian
6.49963845
Romania_Crisana
6.55746140
Romania_Maramures
7.36262182
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.90836898
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
8.83093427
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
9.00668085
Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.69514546
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.95940994
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
12.72875485
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
16.24451600
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
22.58266370
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.30950209
Romania_Jewish
27.41475150
Crimean_Tatar
29.90214374
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
31.17381594
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 2.7873% / 2.78728154 | ADC: 0.25x
80.0 Romania_Banat
15.0 Romania_Maramures
2.0 Romania_Jewish
2.0 Romania_Crisana
1.0 Romania_Roma
-Banat, Dobrogea
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 3.2402% / 3.24017594 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Romania_Maramures
38.2 Romania_Muntenia
14.8 Romania_Transilvania
5.8 Romania_Jewish
0.4 Romania_Roma
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.47007205
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.49988571
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.50388356
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.82259074
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.22251110
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.57901736
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.91373585
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.57777734
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.75669176
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.13881910
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.55793413
Romania_Crisana_Arad
7.27280551
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.48660710
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.95243542
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
9.52621121
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
11.15381549
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
12.92001548
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 03:00 PM
From Brasov
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.33
25.65
17.60
10.77
15.75
4.11
1.08
0
0.58
0.56
0.16
0
0.42
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Distance to:
Brasov_ind
2.42121870
Bosniak_Sandzak
2.97502941
Montenegrin
3.07421535
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.31969878
Romanian_Oltenia
3.32454508
Romania_Transylvania
3.65959014
Moldova_South
3.67747196
Romanian_Wallachia
4.00163716
Romania_Banat
4.07514417
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.10602413
Macedonian
4.28307133
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.30354505
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
4.37162441
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.46220797
Romania_Moldavia_average
4.50125538
Romania_Dobruja
4.52213445
Macedonian_Northwest
4.52606893
Bulgarian_Sofia
4.70013830
Romania_Muntenia
4.98230870
Serb_Serbia
5.04041665
Serb
5.18488187
Moldova_Centre
5.18873780
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
5.20631348
Serb_Croatia
5.32707237
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
5.36249009
Bulgarian_Pleven
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
3.07421535
Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.31969878
Romania_Oltenia
3.32454508
Romania_Transilvania
4.00163716
Romania_Banat
4.50125538
Romania_Dobrogea
4.70013830
Romania_Muntenia
5.60952761
Romania_Crisana
5.61772196
Bulgarian
5.92238972
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.95491394
Romania_Maramures
7.05240385
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.87393802
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
8.09813920
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.25222394
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
8.26111515
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.42294677
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
15.63135311
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
20.97492789
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.07743277
Crimean_Tatar
27.75527698
Romania_Jewish
28.70989202
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
31.60901296
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 1.8727% / 1.87269255 | ADC: 0.25x
56.6 Romania_Moldova_Sud
32.2 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
7.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.2 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
1.2 Romania_Roma
-Moldavia, Aromanian, Bulgarian
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 2.6934% / 2.69336210 | ADC: 0.25x
42.4 Romania_Oltenia
36.8 Romania_Banat
19.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
1.4 Romania_Roma
<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
2.54104309
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
2.81662919
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.02332598
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.39713114
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.56826288
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.74340754
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.88643796
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.28913744
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.73780540
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.10862995
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.13256879
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.97023672
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
6.99752813
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.50835535
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.36440076
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
9.21417929
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.91268528
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 03:08 PM
Brasov
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.42
26.31
16.75
10.09
11.97
3.54
0
1.78
1.65
0
0.30
0.15
0
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Distance to:
Brasov_ind
4.51559520
Hungarian_Szekely
4.72380144
Hungarian_Transylvania
4.90921582
Hungarian_Csango
5.37808516
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.50723161
Serb_Croatia
5.65410470
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
5.68240266
Serb_Croatia_Lika
5.96752880
Romania_Moldavia_average
5.99248696
Romania_Crisana
6.13401989
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.15898531
Serb
6.19955644
Serb_B&H
6.24120982
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.28809987
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.29108099
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.34232607
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.35338492
Serb_Serbia
6.42884126
Bosniak
6.50314539
Serb_B&H_Krajina
6.57164363
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.60132562
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.63369430
Montenegrin
6.70411068
Moldova_average
6.91829459
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.92455775
Romania_Maramures
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
4.37751231
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
4.58385621
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
5.45416355
Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.99248696
Romania_Crisana
6.24120982
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.34391047
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.92455775
Romania_Maramures
6.96229129
Romania_Transilvania
7.40875833
Romania_Oltenia
9.21841635
Romania_Banat
9.65064765
Romania_Dobrogea
9.71455609
Romania_Muntenia
10.68982226
Bulgarian
12.24832233
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
13.36238377
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.75450835
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.76813440
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.03984756
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.08184426
Crimean_Tatar
27.93357120
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.22890163
Romania_Jewish
34.89507129
Romania_Roma
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Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 3.0081% / 3.00809597 | ADC: 0.25x
77.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
19.8 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
2.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.8 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
-Hungarians, Aromanians
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 5.1476% / 5.14760767 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Romania_Crisana
28.4 Romania_Oltenia
11.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
5.2 Crimean_Tatar
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Distance to:
Brasov_ind
4.62353761
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.38323323
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.91225845
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.25037599
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.35590277
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
6.46073525
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.54778589
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.57454181
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.91087549
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.03162143
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.74074932
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.94599270
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
8.12601994
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
8.22155703
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.56160032
Romania_Banat_Timis
10.67590277
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
11.67750401
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 03:15 PM
Brasov
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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.72
29.10
13.70
11.26
16.17
1.39
1.88
0.97
0
0.53
0
0
0.28
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Distance to:
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3.08834907
Romania_Moldavia_North
3.44281861
Romania_Moldavia_average
3.44596866
Moldova_average
3.59169876
Moldova_Centre
3.72983914
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.17276886
Serb_Croatia
4.35886453
Serb
4.40755034
Serb_Serbia
4.44732504
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.50035554
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
4.51849341
Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.57751024
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.59266807
Bosniak
4.73850187
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.78011506
Serb_B&H
4.89692761
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.91079423
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.93060848
Romania_Maramures
4.99456705
Serb_B&H_Krajina
5.47064896
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
5.51546009
Romania_Crisana
5.53478997
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.54632311
Serb_Croatia_Lika
5.56327242
Bulgarian_Pleven
5.57267440
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
3.09186028
Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.91079423
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.93060848
Romania_Maramures
5.18666560
Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.51546009
Romania_Crisana
5.70181550
Romania_Transilvania
6.33456392
Romania_Oltenia
6.64608930
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.75964496
Romania_Banat
6.89293908
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.07604409
Romania_Muntenia
7.46030830
Romania_Dobrogea
8.48538155
Bulgarian
12.24338597
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
12.29696304
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.78820550
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
17.65402220
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.76451519
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
26.27581397
Crimean_Tatar
28.58191386
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.78008285
Romania_Jewish
32.92261836
Romania_Roma
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Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 2.6444% / 2.64435146 | ADC: 0.25x
91.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.0 Romania_Muntenia
3.2 Romania_Roma
-Moldavia
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 2.9466% / 2.94656650 | ADC: 0.25x
67.8 Romania_Muntenia
24.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
8.2 Romania_Crisana
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Distance to:
Brasov_ind
4.18914072
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.40278321
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
4.78821470
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.08558748
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.53466349
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.85935150
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.99227836
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.05671528
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.17805795
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.59147935
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.32877889
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.34736688
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.70135702
Romania_Crisana_Arad
8.18891934
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
8.71854919
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.17984205
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
9.52361801
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 03:21 PM
From Arad
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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.74
25.83
16.89
8.16
19.04
0.77
0
0
0.71
0.86
0
0
0
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Distance to:
Arad_ind
4.08466645
Romania_Crisana
4.30206927
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.59224346
Montenegrin
4.66061155
Bulgarian_Southwest
4.73681327
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.86455548
Romania_Transylvania
5.26333544
Romanian_Oltenia
5.38810382
Macedonian
5.39869429
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.50747674
Serb_Serbia_South&East
5.63586728
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.76879537
Serb_Croatia
5.91037224
Serb_Croatia_Lika
5.91334930
Serb_Serbia
5.92342806
Bulgarian_Central
5.93091898
Romania_Moldavia_average
6.00375716
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.02288137
Serb
6.14598243
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
6.23656957
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.27028707
Romanian_Wallachia
6.33645011
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.35068500
Macedonian_Northwest
6.85660995
Macedonian_East
6.86941773
Romania_Moldavia_North
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind
4.08466645
Romania_Crisana
4.86455548
Romania_Transilvania
5.26333544
Romania_Oltenia
5.39869429
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.81697880
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.08300078
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.11359262
Romania_Muntenia
7.22361695
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.29646490
Romania_Banat
7.40025000
Romania_Maramures
7.43751303
Romania_Dobrogea
7.57136051
Bulgarian
8.21289982
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.97702862
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.45235859
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
14.32990579
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
15.53874191
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.79264784
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.76487169
Romania_Jewish
29.44180022
Crimean_Tatar
31.72698536
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
34.68699180
Romania_Roma
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Target: Arad_ind
Distance: 3.2937% / 3.29365692 | ADC: 0.25x
90.0 Romania_Crisana
7.4 Romania_Jewish
2.6 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
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Distance to:
Arad_ind
4.19311340
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.19786851
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.66755825
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.24837118
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.34899991
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.48509799
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.55263901
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.66864181
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.84101019
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.27134754
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.95892233
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.41557145
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.57181616
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.99229003
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
10.30131545
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
10.80957909
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
11.22353331
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
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andre
09-03-2020, 03:23 PM
Brasov
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.42
26.31
16.75
10.09
11.97
3.54
0
1.78
1.65
0
0.30
0.15
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Distance to:
Brasov_ind
4.51559520
Hungarian_Szekely
4.72380144
Hungarian_Transylvania
4.90921582
Hungarian_Csango
5.37808516
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.50723161
Serb_Croatia
5.65410470
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
5.68240266
Serb_Croatia_Lika
5.96752880
Romania_Moldavia_average
5.99248696
Romania_Crisana
6.13401989
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.15898531
Serb
6.19955644
Serb_B&H
6.24120982
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.28809987
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.29108099
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.34232607
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.35338492
Serb_Serbia
6.42884126
Bosniak
6.50314539
Serb_B&H_Krajina
6.57164363
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.60132562
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.63369430
Montenegrin
6.70411068
Moldova_average
6.91829459
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.92455775
Romania_Maramures
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
4.37751231
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
4.58385621
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
5.45416355
Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.99248696
Romania_Crisana
6.24120982
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.34391047
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.92455775
Romania_Maramures
6.96229129
Romania_Transilvania
7.40875833
Romania_Oltenia
9.21841635
Romania_Banat
9.65064765
Romania_Dobrogea
9.71455609
Romania_Muntenia
10.68982226
Bulgarian
12.24832233
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
13.36238377
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.75450835
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.76813440
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.03984756
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.08184426
Crimean_Tatar
27.93357120
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.22890163
Romania_Jewish
34.89507129
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 3.0081% / 3.00809597 | ADC: 0.25x
77.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
19.8 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
2.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.8 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
-Hungarians, Aromanians
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 5.1476% / 5.14760767 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Romania_Crisana
28.4 Romania_Oltenia
11.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
5.2 Crimean_Tatar
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Distance to:
Brasov_ind
4.62353761
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.38323323
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.91225845
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.25037599
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.35590277
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
6.46073525
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.54778589
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.57454181
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.91087549
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.03162143
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.74074932
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.94599270
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
8.12601994
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
8.22155703
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.56160032
Romania_Banat_Timis
10.67590277
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
11.67750401
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
Barcaság csango?
Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 03:30 PM
Barcaság csango?
I always mention when they are of a different ethnicity. This one is just Romanian. Romania and Moldova are diverse countries and so would most countries be on K13, if people 1) didn't cherrypick the samples and 2) had so many samples for their respective countries. This is obvious from ethnicities who are well researched, like Italians, Germans, Greeks, French, Ukrainians, while others like the English and Spanish for example are more homogenous because of their isolation, one on an island and others walled in by mountains from the North and sea to the East and South. Proper continentals however were wilding.
There are Romanians with his profile in Brasov, others who are also different and everything in-between.
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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
26.04
21.14
15.62
12.56
19.49
1.08
0
0.46
1.66
1.15
0
0
0.81
27.93
24.28
15.00
8.15
18.26
3.29
1.20
0.40
0.53
0.97
0
0
0
22.00
21.66
19.87
11.48
20.39
2.79
0
0.89
0.16
0.31
0.44
0
0
25.07
23.78
16.99
11.66
16.06
2.05
1.78
0
0.85
0.87
0.65
0.05
0.19
24.67
25.49
16.67
9.52
18.10
3.58
1.01
0
0.96
0
0
0
0
27.39
26.82
15.62
8.79
16.35
2.03
0.85
1.49
0.66
0
0
0
0
23.70
24.76
15.29
11.09
18.44
2.95
0.60
0.62
1.25
1.28
0
0
0
26.18
23.61
19.13
10.45
17.51
0
0
2.27
0.75
0
0.07
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.33
25.65
17.60
10.77
15.75
4.11
1.08
0
0.58
0.56
0.16
0
0.42
27.42
26.31
16.75
10.09
11.97
3.54
0
1.78
1.65
0
0.30
0.15
0
24.72
29.10
13.70
11.26
16.17
1.39
1.88
0.97
0
0.53
0
0
0.28
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Stereotypically, he looks more Romanian than a lot of us, if anyone is wondering.
Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 03:42 PM
From Timis
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
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9.75
18.49
1.05
2.52
0.07
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0.89
0.54
0
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Timis_ind
2.83885540
Romanian_Oltenia
2.91317302
Macedonian
3.16850122
Macedonian_Northwest
3.32798738
Romanian_Wallachia
3.34823834
Romania_Transylvania
3.52325134
Montenegrin
3.65433989
Bulgarian_Central
3.96643417
Romania_Muntenia
4.04355042
Moldova_South
4.10545978
Romania_Dobruja
4.27983645
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.34462887
Romania_Banat
4.38061639
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.40875266
Bulgarian
4.40992985
North_Macedonian
4.43692461
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.78215433
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.79695737
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.85595511
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.88848647
Macedonian_East
4.91081460
Bulgarian_Serres
5.50639628
Bulgarian_Sofia
5.50806681
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
5.89435323
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
6.09692545
Romania_Crisana
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_ind
2.83885540
Romania_Oltenia
3.34823834
Romania_Transilvania
3.96643417
Romania_Muntenia
4.10545978
Romania_Dobrogea
4.34462887
Romania_Banat
4.40875266
Bulgarian
4.43692461
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.09692545
Romania_Crisana
7.06951908
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
7.08168059
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
7.64632592
Romania_Maramures
7.87920047
Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.80936434
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.66463270
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.21237809
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
11.27870560
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
17.57083663
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
23.59149635
Ukrainian_Lviv
25.51422152
Romania_Jewish
27.64663451
Crimean_Tatar
30.31511174
Romania_Roma
30.69082925
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
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Target: Timis_ind
Distance: 2.1275% / 2.12747292 | ADC: 0.25x
48.6 Romania_Oltenia
26.4 Romania_Transilvania
11.8 Romania_Crisana
9.2 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
4.0 Romania_Roma
-Oltenia, Aromanian
Target: Timis_ind
Distance: 2.3362% / 2.33620592 | ADC: 0.25x
91.8 Romania_Transilvania
4.2 Romania_Roma
4.0 Romania_Jewish
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Distance to:
Timis_ind
3.41153924
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.65246492
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.67894006
Romania_Crisana_Arad
3.71060642
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.95546457
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.95565418
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.29504366
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.30418401
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.61880937
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.77246268
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
7.51728009
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.56388128
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
8.01625224
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.96414525
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
9.07160956
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
10.51855503
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
12.97566183
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
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Ion Basescul
09-03-2020, 03:51 PM
Satu Mare
Second sample from Satu Mare, and kind of different from the first. Both are natives of the county though.
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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.30
22.08
17.51
10.57
18.58
1.27
0
0.47
1.64
0
0.57
0
0
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Reposting the first one just for comparison
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
19.72
30.17
19.01
6.84
16.82
3.54
0.60
1.36
1.78
0
0.17
0
0
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Distance to:
SatuMare_ind
3.49342239
Bulgarian_Southwest
4.00116233
Bulgarian_Central
4.82585744
Macedonian_Northwest
4.82667911
North_Macedonian
4.87589992
Romanian_Oltenia
4.89039876
Montenegrin
5.36824179
Macedonian
5.52157586
Romania_Transylvania
5.61702768
Romanian_Wallachia
5.98264156
Macedonian_East
6.16219928
Bulgarian_Plovdiv
6.19321403
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
6.23446068
Romania_Muntenia
6.43268218
Bulgarian
6.46763481
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
6.50279940
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.52386389
Moldova_South
6.57184145
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
6.64751833
Romania_Dobruja
6.91251040
Bulgarian_Serres
6.92150995
Bosniak_Sandzak
7.02953057
Bulgarian_Pleven
7.08745370
Romania_Crisana
7.29752698
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
7.43226076
Romania_Banat
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Distance to:
SatuMare_ind
4.87589992
Romania_Oltenia
5.52157586
Romania_Transilvania
6.23446068
Romania_Muntenia
6.43268218
Bulgarian
6.50279940
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.64751833
Romania_Dobrogea
7.08745370
Romania_Crisana
7.43226076
Romania_Banat
7.48329473
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
8.10698464
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.20424224
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.25329671
Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.57627276
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.97854699
Romania_Maramures
10.30755662
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
11.41538874
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
19.09987958
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
24.75560139
Ukrainian_Lviv
25.29804736
Romania_Jewish
27.50730994
Crimean_Tatar
30.78997077
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.49567817
Romania_Roma
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Target: SatuMare_ind
Distance: 3.1337% / 3.13372487 | ADC: 0.25x
52.8 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
41.4 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
5.8 Romania_Oltenia
-Hungarian, Aromanian
Target: SatuMare_ind
Distance: 4.5165% / 4.51645275 | ADC: 0.25x
74.4 Romania_Oltenia
18.8 Romania_Crisana
6.8 Romania_Jewish
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Distance to:
SatuMare_ind
3.15846482
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.35129866
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.73253632
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.95916101
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.97319847
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.15219473
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.26657801
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.61525510
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.70812194
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.71652440
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
7.06283937
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
10.03215829
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
10.11870545
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.39879320
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.48445516
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
12.19219422
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
13.61535530
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
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Mingle
09-03-2020, 04:48 PM
Yes, they don't count. Outside of Szekely Land only those who live between Braşov and Sibiu, in a region called Szászföld (Ținutul Saşilor) count as Szekelys.
Are they called something else?
Cybele
09-04-2020, 02:25 PM
Target: Mures_ind
Distance: 2.6520% / 2.65201928 | ADC: 0.25x
97.6 Romania_Moldavia_North
1.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
1.2 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
I wonder if this is some influence from Rusyn minority. Many Rusyns and Romanians(from Transylvania) were Greek Catholic, so perhaps common religion facilitated intermarriage?! :noidea:
Is strange though, for example in my family the test shows the clear presence of smaller East European percentages, yet when I asked nobody knew about Slavic mixing.
Cybele
09-04-2020, 02:37 PM
Does Arad have a solid history of ethnic presence?
All but one of my samples from there seem to have more North Atlantic than Baltic, but they all report only Romanian ancestry in their family trees.
There were a multitude of ethnicities living in Arad, during the time. The higher than average North Atlantic in some samples could be maybe attributed to Swabian presence in the area. And the fact that they have no idea about it is maybe because the admixture happend many generations ago, or perhaps their ancestors tried to keep it hidden.
in my family the test shows the clear presence of smaller East European percentages, yet when I asked nobody knew about Slavic mixing.
What is the normal East European range for Romanians on 23andme? 50% would be above the average?
WeirdLookingFellow
09-04-2020, 03:37 PM
What is the normal East European range for Romanians on 23andme? 50% would be above the average?
Based on some of the results I've seen I think 10-25% in Moldavians ( in Romania ) and 1-15% in Wallachians.
Băsescu probably saw more.
Based on some of the results I've seen I think 10-25% in Moldavians ( in Romania ) and 1-15% in Wallachians.
Băsescu probably saw more.
I see.
I was just trying to figure out why a supposed half Lipovan from Romania on Reddit got 74% East European. Okay, let's assume the Lipovan side was 95+% EE. Then the Romanian side must be around 50% as well. Unfortunately she doesn't seem to care about Gedmatch and I'd love to see some Lipovans.
Cybele
09-04-2020, 03:44 PM
What is the normal East European range for Romanians on 23andme? 50% would be above the average? It depends on region. 50% it is above average for Wallachia for example. This is a good thread to see:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315214-Post-autosomal-DNA-results-of-people-from-Romania-and-Republic-of-Moldova
WeirdLookingFellow
09-04-2020, 03:47 PM
I see.
I was just trying to figure out why a supposed half Lipovan from Romania on Reddit got 74% East European. Okay, let's assume the Lipovan side was 95+% EE. Then the Romanian side must be around 50% as well. Unfortunately she doesn't seem to care about Gedmatch and I'd love to see some Lipovans.
Her main region is Suceava, I can bet her Lipovan part is from that area as well and the Romanian might be mixed with Ukrainian.
Even so, maybe Băsescu convinces her to get into his database.
Ion Basescul
09-04-2020, 03:50 PM
I wonder if this is some influence from Rusyn minority. Many Rusyns and Romanians(from Transylvania) were Greek Catholic, so perhaps common religion facilitated intermarriage?! :noidea:
Is strange though, for example in my family the test shows the clear presence of smaller East European percentages, yet when I asked nobody knew about Slavic mixing.
To be fair that's a very small contribution and at a fairly decent distance. I think that if I take them out the fit won't worsen considerably, so the model can be explained even without them. In general, the more to the North one goes, the higher in theory the admix similar to North Slavs increases. The opposite is true towards the South, where the similarity to Bulgarians increases.
WeirdLookingFellow
09-04-2020, 03:52 PM
It depends on region. 50% it is above average for Wallachia for example. This is a good thread to see:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315214-Post-autosomal-DNA-results-of-people-from-Romania-and-Republic-of-Moldova
Ah yes, forgot about this thread.
@lLeto, check the Botoșani/Suceava people, they seem to score 30-50% Eastern European therefore it's definitely possible for the half Lipovan to be 75%.
Aspirin
09-04-2020, 03:53 PM
Based on some of the results I've seen I think 10-25% in Moldavians ( in Romania ) and 1-15% in Wallachians.
Băsescu probably saw more.
10-25%? Is more.
Ion Basescul
09-04-2020, 04:01 PM
What is the normal East European range for Romanians on 23andme? 50% would be above the average?
50% is above average even for R. Moldova. Here the average is about 43-45%. Persons of confirmed 1/4 Ukrainian and Russian ancestry average at around 54-58%. Halfies (only one example though) are at 62%. There are also two individuals who are 3/4 Slavic, but are quite different, probably because for one the Moldovan part is from the North and the other Chisinau and also because that one from Chisinau is 2/4 Ukrainian and 1/4 Russian, while the other one 3/4 Russian. They are at 64% and 74% East Euro respectively.
In Romania, the average is way lower, but I saw sampels ranging from literally 100% Balkan to 53% East Euro. So her Romanian part could be from the North in Romania. You might not be aware but the Dobruja region from where she is was fairly recently settled by people from all over the country and beyond. Also it might be worth remembering that cases of being perfect halves of the parents results are not that common.
WeirdLookingFellow
09-04-2020, 04:04 PM
10-25%? Is more.
I don't think we have enough samples to clearly state it - I'd say it's ok to estimate that some Focsani/Galati people will be in the range of 10-20%, with 15-30% in the centre.
Coastal Elite
09-12-2020, 10:01 PM
I know a Romanian-American woman that recently set over 20 AncestryDNA kits to villages in Southern Transylvania were she had extended family and friends. I'm hoping I'll have some more samples to provide in the near future.
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 12:55 AM
I know a Romanian-American woman that recently set over 20 AncestryDNA kits to villages in Southern Transylvania were she had extended family and friends. I'm hoping I'll have some more samples to provide in the near future.
Looking forward to their K13 if you can get your hand on them.
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 07:08 PM
From Alba
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.28
24.25
16.65
9.21
16.34
1.67
1.68
0
1.75
0
0
0
0.17
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.79
24.55
19.05
9.12
19.31
0.11
0
0.64
0.58
0
0.86
0
0
25.30
26.72
16.77
10.42
15.77
2.18
0.09
0
0.36
1.87
0.52
0
0
26.53
25.09
15.61
8.87
19.04
1.95
0.33
0.73
0.32
0.57
0.22
0.74
0
24.95
27.37
17.13
9.41
15.89
1.33
0.92
0.22
1.74
1.04
0
0
0
26.75
28.14
17.13
9.94
11.75
2.41
0.27
0
0.77
1.92
0.93
0
0
22.63
26.49
16.79
11.52
20.83
0.83
0
0.28
0.37
0
0.26
0
0
23.93
24.30
20.37
11.76
17.05
0
0
0
0
1.05
1.08
0
0.46
24.37
25.88
18.06
10.39
17.43
0.22
0
2.47
0.72
0.46
0
0
0
25.19
23.82
18.28
11.80
15.18
0.40
1.58
0
1.49
0.87
1.28
0
0.10
24.08
26.00
17.69
9.73
19.18
1.58
0.91
0
0
0.08
0.75
0
0
23.65
25.19
19.88
9.40
15.76
2.95
0
0
3.16
0
0
0
0
25.53
24.30
18.37
9.10
18.27
1.22
0
0.33
1.04
1.60
0.24
0
0
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Distance to:
Alba_ind
4.82330799
Montenegrin
4.86611755
Romania_Crisana
4.98862707
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.26688713
Romania_Transylvania
5.42679463
Romanian_Oltenia
5.52766678
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.79067354
Bulgarian_Southwest
5.88951611
Hungarian_Szekely
5.92874354
Serb_Croatia
5.93144165
Bulgarian_Pleven
6.09148586
Romania_Moldavia_average
6.21407274
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
6.29522835
Serb_Croatia_Lika
6.38377339
Macedonian
6.44159918
Macedonian_Northwest
6.47348438
Bulgarian_Central
6.52009969
Serb
6.53128624
Serb_Serbia
6.55229731
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.59354988
Romanian_Wallachia
6.64592356
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.66839561
Serb_Serbia_South&East
6.68610499
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.77483579
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
6.83592715
Hungarian_Transylvania
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Alba_ind
4.86611755
Romania_Crisana
5.26688713
Romania_Transilvania
5.42679463
Romania_Oltenia
5.52766678
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.77669481
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.39622545
Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.81747507
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.00438434
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.43135250
Romania_Muntenia
7.80339029
Romania_Maramures
7.88290556
Romania_Dobrogea
7.95523727
Romania_Banat
8.42046911
Bulgarian
10.18585293
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
10.67084345
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
14.68506725
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
15.97541549
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.47000466
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.56206088
Crimean_Tatar
28.49804730
Romania_Jewish
30.07411512
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.82453351
Romania_Roma
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Target: Alba_ind
Distance: 2.4875% / 2.48748185 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
22.4 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
1.6 Romania_Jewish
0.2 Romania_Roma
-Hungarians
Target: Alba_ind
Distance: 4.2306% / 4.23062530 | ADC: 0.25x
83.8 Romania_Crisana
13.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
2.6 Romania_Roma
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Distance to:
Alba_ind
2.94370515
Romania_Crisana_Arad
3.82027486
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.08642876
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.16135795
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.71005308
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.33955054
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.77711866
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.86896925
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.40376452
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.57350744
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
7.02331830
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.15669617
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.17788270
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.59360916
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.08428723
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.46918687
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.30403804
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
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Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 07:31 PM
Second sample from Bistrita-Nasaud
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.90
26.47
18.47
10.71
15.18
1.11
0
0
1.85
0.81
0.47
0
0
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.64
25.43
18.73
8.12
14.30
1.59
0
0.45
2.10
0.29
0.36
0
0
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Distance to:
Bistrita_ind
2.49855959
Romania_Moldavia_South
2.94261788
Romania_Transylvania
2.99202273
Montenegrin
3.18146193
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.49887125
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
3.66431440
Romanian_Oltenia
3.68897005
Romania_Moldavia_average
3.80577193
Serb_Croatia
3.81625471
Serb_Serbia
3.83147491
Serb
3.90652019
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.91090782
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.16134594
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.47381269
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.48981069
Serb_Croatia_Lika
4.51271537
Romania_Crisana
4.52859802
Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.55439348
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
4.76797651
Romanian_Wallachia
4.88191326
Macedonian
4.91624857
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.94655436
Moldova_average
4.99301512
Serb_B&H
5.05665898
Moldova_South
5.09940193
Macedonian_Northwest
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Distance to:
Bistrita_ind
2.49855959
Romania_Moldova_Sud
2.94261788
Romania_Transilvania
3.66431440
Romania_Oltenia
4.51271537
Romania_Crisana
5.10567332
Romania_Banat
5.15073781
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.27727202
Romania_Maramures
5.88128387
Romania_Dobrogea
6.02446678
Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.09628575
Romania_Muntenia
6.35782088
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.65748735
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.70754799
Bulgarian
9.66448654
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
10.29730062
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
14.54029573
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.81837710
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
19.95397705
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.41686772
Crimean_Tatar
28.61814285
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
29.50485723
Romania_Jewish
33.56745001
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Bistrita_ind
Distance: 2.2341% / 2.23410389 | ADC: 0.25x
66.2 Romania_Moldova_Sud
17.2 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
12.4 Romania_Oltenia
4.2 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
-Hungarian
Target: Bistrita_ind
Distance: 2.4986% / 2.49855959 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Romania_Moldova_Sud
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bistrita_ind
2.29357799
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
2.41648505
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
2.54389465
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
2.69475416
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.07808382
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.73422013
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.88930585
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.95970959
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.96916868
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.14266822
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.33390124
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.52506354
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.44821072
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.50830282
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.30311577
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.31829920
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.20319558
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
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Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 07:35 PM
Bistrita-Nasaud
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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.24
26.47
16.60
8.06
14.40
1.56
1.53
0.40
1.83
0.95
0.68
0.28
0
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Compared to others from Bistrita-Nasaud
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.64
25.43
18.73
8.12
14.30
1.59
0
0.45
2.10
0.29
0.36
0
0
24.90
26.47
18.47
10.71
15.18
1.11
0
0
1.85
0.81
0.47
0
0
</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bistrita_ind
3.14726866
Romania_Crisana
3.16117067
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
3.18825971
Hungarian_Szekely
3.90937335
Serb_Croatia
3.91065212
Hungarian_Csango
3.93620375
Serb_Croatia_Lika
4.07731529
Hungarian_Transylvania
4.30886296
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.32936485
Romania_Moldavia_average
4.43832175
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.50129981
Serb
4.51825187
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.59333212
Serb_Serbia
4.62879034
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.88232527
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.13635084
Serb_B&H
5.16334194
Romania_Transylvania
5.21605215
Bulgarian_Pleven
5.21713523
Montenegrin
5.24646548
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
5.28372974
Bosniak
5.43266969
Romania_Maramures
5.53635259
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.56502471
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.64270325
Moldova_average
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bistrita_ind
3.14726866
Romania_Crisana
3.17795578
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
3.47109493
Romania_Moldova_Csango
3.90618492
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
4.62879034
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.86302375
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.16334194
Romania_Transilvania
5.43266969
Romania_Maramures
6.02406009
Romania_Oltenia
7.94285843
Romania_Banat
8.30557644
Romania_Muntenia
8.49103056
Romania_Dobrogea
9.46677876
Bulgarian
11.90848437
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.28120108
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.03920626
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.80323778
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.50674742
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.07471514
Crimean_Tatar
28.80433995
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.86631983
Romania_Jewish
33.81728256
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Bistrita_ind
Distance: 1.1316% / 1.13160489 | ADC: 0.25x
62.4 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
21.6 Romania_Crisana
8.4 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
6.2 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
1.4 Romania_Roma
-Hungarians
Target: Bistrita_ind
Distance: 2.9155% / 2.91548978 | ADC: 0.25x
94.6 Romania_Crisana
2.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
1.6 Crimean_Tatar
1.6 Romania_Roma
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bistrita_ind
2.01896013
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.01100985
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.29182945
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
4.46534433
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.53702546
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.84530701
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.93972671
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.09210173
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.48958104
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.60878775
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.62972468
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.07242950
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.33468231
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.71815451
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.32321651
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.41270531
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.04691495
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 07:39 PM
Mures
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.07
23.78
16.99
11.66
16.06
2.05
1.78
0
0.85
0.87
0.65
0.05
0.19
</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Mures
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.25
30.41
14.82
9.94
16.08
1.64
0
0.47
0.99
0.65
0.73
0
0
21.44
28.59
16.86
10.54
16.15
3.25
0.87
0
1.41
0.90
0
0
0
26.34
22.26
19.68
10.29
14.43
2.80
2.11
0
1.52
0.30
0.28
0
0
25.50
23.15
17.63
10.05
17.66
2.79
0.10
0.55
2.01
0.27
0.30
0
0
25.25
24.30
18.85
9.80
14.83
2.78
2.41
0
0.18
0.68
0.58
0.34
0
24.49
30.54
13.40
9.93
16.80
2.35
0
0.31
1.77
0
0.41
0
0
</tbody>
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
3.16703331
Romanian_Oltenia
3.34459265
Montenegrin
3.69636308
Romania_Transylvania
3.89105384
Romanian_Wallachia
4.05557641
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.34615494
Macedonian
4.36463057
Macedonian_Northwest
4.39433727
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.43095926
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.59248299
Moldova_South
4.62763438
Romania_Muntenia
5.05115828
Romania_Dobruja
5.17122809
Bulgarian_Central
5.26727634
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.35316729
Romania_Banat
5.45981685
Romania_Moldavia_average
5.52654503
Serb_Serbia_South&East
5.57096042
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
5.64722056
Bulgarian
5.66181950
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
5.69822779
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.97300594
Bulgarian_Pleven
5.99708262
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
6.01808109
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
6.04026489
Serb_Croatia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
3.16703331
Romania_Oltenia
3.69636308
Romania_Transilvania
4.05557641
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.62763438
Romania_Muntenia
5.05115828
Romania_Dobrogea
5.35316729
Romania_Banat
5.64722056
Bulgarian
6.11523507
Romania_Crisana
6.87697608
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.59222629
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.60150643
Romania_Maramures
7.75150308
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
7.81412593
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.42786589
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.44034952
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
12.90765664
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
17.03289465
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
22.24062724
Ukrainian_Lviv
25.83832038
Crimean_Tatar
27.10907413
Romania_Jewish
29.07494110
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.63312586
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Mures_ind
Distance: 2.0486% / 2.04858450 | ADC: 0.25x
53.6 Romania_Oltenia
27.4 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
14.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
4.4 Romania_Roma
-Hungarian, Aromanian
Target: Mures_ind
Distance: 2.8591% / 2.85913748 | ADC: 0.25x
89.0 Romania_Oltenia
7.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
3.6 Romania_Roma
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
2.41480848
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
2.96551850
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.16286263
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.55337867
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.55761156
Romania_Crisana_Arad
3.69567315
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.42353931
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.74390135
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.92804221
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.02859821
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.07355891
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.95229368
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.35212214
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
7.50672365
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.94989937
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.26033477
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
11.55712767
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 07:52 PM
Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
</tbody>
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Compared to others from Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
16.92
24.96
20.30
12.53
20.37
0
0
2.56
2.11
0
0.25
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.23873432
Serb_Serbia_South&East
3.24342412
Romanian_Wallachia
3.38236604
Romania_Transylvania
3.43372433
Macedonian
3.44947822
Romania_Muntenia
3.45091292
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.48427898
Romanian_Oltenia
3.54264026
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
3.55800506
Montenegrin
3.86009067
Romania_Banat
3.93419623
Romania_Moldavia_average
4.00669440
Moldova_South
4.05372668
Romania_Dobruja
4.07979166
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.19808290
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.36037842
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.73263140
Moldova_Centre
4.81746821
Bulgarian
4.94125490
Serb_Serbia
4.95919348
Moldova_average
4.99444692
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.02292743
Turk_N-Macedonia
5.03768796
Bulgarian_Sofia
5.06019762
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.06588590
Serb
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.38236604
Romania_Transilvania
3.44947822
Romania_Muntenia
3.45091292
Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.48427898
Romania_Oltenia
3.86009067
Romania_Banat
4.05372668
Romania_Dobrogea
4.81746821
Bulgarian
5.01381093
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.40331380
Romania_Crisana
6.17650387
Romania_Maramures
6.96917499
Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.27276254
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
8.29805250
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.85138056
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.15172661
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
13.91607344
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
15.35710910
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.10431236
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.24639975
Crimean_Tatar
27.02158026
Romania_Jewish
29.09550996
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
31.77215290
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 1.6901% / 1.69010088 | ADC: 0.25x
60.8 Romania_Muntenia
38.6 Romania_Moldova_Nord
0.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
2.76747177
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
2.94102023
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.06561576
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.27705661
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.28770437
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.56379012
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.88991002
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.47029082
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.47902891
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.34433345
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.61010695
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.11707446
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.32604932
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.76625450
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.30769523
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
9.22035249
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
11.08975653
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 07:56 PM
Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
16.92
24.96
20.30
12.53
20.37
0
0
2.56
2.11
0
0.25
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.10660586
Moldova_South
3.11911847
Romania_Banat
3.22194041
Macedonian_Northwest
3.23001548
Romania_Transylvania
3.43554945
Romanian_Wallachia
3.52035510
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
3.60186063
Romanian_Oltenia
3.62038672
Montenegrin
3.69749798
Macedonian
3.71412170
Romania_Dobruja
3.76705455
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.77526158
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.86806153
Bulgarian_Sofia
3.98549871
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.25958918
Romania_Muntenia
4.41605027
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.53630907
Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.60051084
Bulgarian_Central
4.68000000
Bulgarian
5.00938120
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.49329591
Romania_Moldavia_average
5.75339900
Serb_Serbia
5.77956746
Macedonian_East
5.81929549
Bulgarian_Serres
5.86123707
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.11911847
Romania_Banat
3.23001548
Romania_Transilvania
3.60186063
Romania_Oltenia
3.71412170
Romania_Dobrogea
3.77526158
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.25958918
Romania_Muntenia
4.68000000
Bulgarian
5.95664335
Romania_Crisana
6.75062960
Romania_Maramures
7.03007112
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.65401855
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
7.84226370
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
8.20847123
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.41321251
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.84540041
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
12.30716458
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
16.45030091
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
22.50348417
Ukrainian_Lviv
25.72558843
Crimean_Tatar
26.34685940
Romania_Jewish
27.96007332
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.31450913
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 2.4144% / 2.41437617 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Romania_Transilvania
41.8 Romania_Banat
7.0 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
5.2 Romania_Crisana
3.4 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
2.41969006
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
2.48843324
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
2.95932425
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.07288138
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.21491835
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.49412364
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.68875318
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.09074565
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.33974654
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.72309221
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.35467086
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.08475965
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.44918788
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.25680326
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.75454766
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.20197530
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
12.42761844
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:04 PM
Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
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Compared to others from Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
16.92
24.96
20.30
12.53
20.37
0
0
2.56
2.11
0
0.25
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.77185631
Bulgarian_Pleven
4.03385672
Romania_Crisana
4.09018337
Romania_Transylvania
4.26558320
Montenegrin
4.38483751
Romanian_Oltenia
4.41828246
Macedonian
4.73311737
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.86205718
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.20969289
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.23533189
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.27128068
Romanian_Wallachia
5.42586399
Pomak_Plovdiv
5.48203429
Macedonian_Northwest
5.50470708
Bulgarian_Southwest
5.54520514
Bosniak_Sandzak
5.57757116
Bulgarian_Central
5.66104231
Macedonian_East
5.67489207
Serb_Serbia
5.74862592
Romania_Moldavia_average
5.81682044
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
5.84378302
Serb
5.88836989
Serb_Croatia
5.89179090
Serb_Croatia_Lika
6.05441161
Romania_Banat
6.11554576
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
4.03385672
Romania_Crisana
4.09018337
Romania_Transilvania
4.38483751
Romania_Oltenia
4.86205718
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.05441161
Romania_Banat
6.13707585
Romania_Dobrogea
6.17824409
Romania_Muntenia
6.46021671
Bulgarian
6.81451392
Romania_Maramures
6.86280555
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.58904474
Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.25170102
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.12725013
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.16820593
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.63212853
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
13.49516580
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
15.74383054
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
22.16261266
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.06104950
Romania_Jewish
28.59641411
Crimean_Tatar
30.95295947
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
34.09349351
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 2.6652% / 2.66522806 | ADC: 0.25x
85.8 Romania_Crisana
6.4 Romania_Jewish
4.0 Bulgarian
3.8 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
-Jewish, Aromanian, Bulgarian
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 3.3455% / 3.34547087 | ADC: 0.25x
56.0 Romania_Crisana
44.0 Romania_Oltenia
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.89387981
Romania_Crisana_Arad
3.94699886
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.08077199
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.40877534
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.57606818
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.66715117
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.67816203
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.84073342
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.91258588
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.36693581
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.73541629
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.73898075
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.12299094
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.12603224
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.62926996
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.87075894
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.53497724
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:09 PM
Arad (Hungarian)
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
31.99
28.40
16.05
7.69
11.49
2.39
0
1.86
0
0
0.14
0
0
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Compared to Hungarians from all over Transylvania (without Szeklers)
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.80
34.62
12.31
6.60
14.49
0.32
0
0
2.36
0
1.17
0.33
0
29.33
32.53
14.47
5.83
12.27
1.76
0.83
0.45
0.83
1.25
0.18
0
0.28
27.43
30.88
17.88
12.68
7.15
0
1.85
0
0.89
0.66
0.31
0
0.27
26.05
35.05
17.41
5.76
11.38
0.10
0.68
0.31
1.47
0.67
0
0.09
1.04
29.97
30.53
13.12
9.35
9.83
3.34
0.96
0
0.87
1.60
0.41
0
0
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind_Hungarian
4.42413833
Hungarian_Transylvania
4.72032838
Hungarian_Transdanubia
5.09041256
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
5.11586747
Hungarian_Szekely
5.16841368
Hungarian_Budapest
5.36651656
Hungarian
5.73380328
Hungarian_Csango
6.24798367
Hungarian_Alfold
6.36139922
Croat_Croatia
6.46562449
Croat
6.67619652
Croat_B&H_Bosnia
6.85248860
Austrian
6.89965941
Slovenian
7.12624726
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
7.30409474
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
7.38396912
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
7.40454590
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
7.43926072
Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
7.54112061
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
7.57661534
Croat_Slavonia
7.69619386
Croat_B&H
7.70179200
Serb_Croatia_Lika
7.85410084
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
7.92216511
Serb_Croatia
7.94539489
Bosniak
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind_Hungarian
4.99049737
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.08254667
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.05382166
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.98618808
Romania_Crisana
8.86688784
Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.34319003
Romania_Maramures
10.18953385
Romania_Moldova_Sud
10.82933978
Romania_Transilvania
11.47225348
Romania_Oltenia
12.33718769
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.54502492
Romania_Banat
14.01515965
Romania_Muntenia
14.09917373
Romania_Dobrogea
14.90167105
Bulgarian
16.27329715
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.69258218
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
17.48697801
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
21.69642597
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
30.50042459
Crimean_Tatar
31.63380944
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
38.67331509
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Arad_ind_Hungarian
Distance: 4.9625% / 4.96250019 | ADC: 0.25x
68.6 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
31.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind_Hungarian
4.87174507
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
5.45764601
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.33698167
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.36495069
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.63000579
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.65117609
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.70937176
Romania_Crisana_Arad
9.99270734
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
10.14412145
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
10.33319409
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
11.20280768
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
11.24643944
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
11.66472889
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
11.91434010
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
11.94640113
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
12.96998072
Romania_Banat_Timis
15.49537350
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
andre
09-13-2020, 08:12 PM
Arad (Hungarian)
Target: Hungarian_Arad
Distance: 2.0909% / 2.09085314
38.0 Germanic
35.2 Slavic
26.8 Paleo-Balkanic
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:12 PM
Salaj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.56
34.11
20.45
8.34
10.88
0.52
0
0
1.00
0.67
0.24
0.24
0
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Compared to others from Salaj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.08
26.01
16.79
10.94
15.65
1.50
0
0.81
0.52
0.18
0.51
0
0
26.79
32.77
15.94
5.66
13.01
1.57
0
0
2.48
0.64
0.60
0.53
0
21.39
33.81
14.64
12.73
12.88
0.24
1.21
0.46
0
2.64
0
0
0
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Salaj_ind
6.16756030
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
6.21136056
Serb_B&H_Krajina
6.27802517
Moldova_North
6.42394738
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.46269294
Serb_B&H
6.48769605
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.48993066
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.50498271
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
6.54683129
Croat_B&H
6.88875170
Bosniak
6.92348178
Romania_Maramures
7.02581829
Bosniak_Sarajevo
7.03614241
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
7.14048318
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
7.33023192
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
7.51910899
Croat_B&H_Bosnia
7.59140303
Serb_Croatia_Lika
7.59422807
Croat
7.70002597
Serb
7.70652970
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.82054985
Serb_Serbia
7.83212615
Croat_Croatia
7.84573132
Croat_Slavonia
7.97724263
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
7.98026942
Serb_Croatia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Salaj_ind
6.92348178
Romania_Maramures
8.59090798
Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.60237894
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.85866807
Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.89369440
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.69297684
Romania_Crisana
9.78236410
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.80992355
Romania_Moldova_Sud
10.89977064
Romania_Transilvania
11.82961115
Romania_Banat
12.02186342
Romania_Oltenia
13.44092631
Romania_Dobrogea
13.52143484
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.99228001
Romania_Muntenia
14.54600976
Bulgarian
17.72949238
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
18.17391537
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
22.77554171
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
29.84360400
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
29.92472055
Crimean_Tatar
37.53908363
Romania_Jewish
38.75850229
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Salaj_ind
Distance: 5.5879% / 5.58792063 | ADC: 0.25x
76.4 Romania_Maramures
23.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
<tbody>
Distance to:
Salaj_ind
5.10635878
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.19177308
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.78441391
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
8.98278910
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.90443840
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
10.10715093
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
10.11205716
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
10.60952402
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
10.89981192
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
10.91737606
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
10.98473031
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
11.04343244
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
11.17180379
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
11.93571112
Romania_Banat_Timis
12.29048412
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
12.75723716
Romania_Crisana_Arad
16.63128377
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
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Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:23 PM
Timis
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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0
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Compared to others from Timis
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.53
23.76
18.21
11.00
19.10
2.17
0
0
1.32
0.37
0.12
0
0.42
18.25
27.74
20.29
11.12
17.52
1.91
0.40
0.90
0.63
1.24
0
0
0
24.06
28.12
17.87
5.65
19.29
1.76
0
1.51
0.37
1.04
0
0.33
0
21.77
24.15
18.41
12.23
18.17
2.49
0.97
0.05
0.85
0.90
0
0
0
23.99
25.36
15.22
15.57
13.99
1.91
1.38
0
2.57
0
0
0
0
21.71
25.42
17.45
9.79
19.16
2.28
1.14
0.44
1.47
0.82
0.33
0
0
20.09
26.81
19.78
11.97
18.06
1.00
1.80
0
0.24
0
0.24
0
0
23.27
26.87
20.21
8.86
16.34
1.91
0
0.52
0
0.92
0.59
0.51
0
20.86
28.67
19.06
9.41
17.83
1.64
0.28
1.50
0.19
0
0.13
0.43
0
20.86
28.54
16.38
13.48
15.02
2.32
0.37
0
2.60
0
0
0
0.42
21.43
24.08
16.80
12.91
20.21
3.76
0.09
0
0.35
0.08
0.29
0
0
21.78
24.90
16.48
11.17
18.52
3.16
0.41
0.89
2.64
0
0.06
0
0
21.95
23.73
16.39
9.97
20.92
3.84
0.54
0.22
0.76
1.21
0.47
0
0
23.81
25.88
18.64
12.16
15.14
1.30
0
1.15
1.33
0
0.59
0
0
24.53
25.10
18.74
10.33
17.26
1.30
0
0.91
1.60
0
0.16
0
0.08
24.75
24.97
16.15
10.82
15.93
3.22
1.56
1.04
1.40
0
0.16
0
0
23.84
24.14
18.67
9.75
18.49
1.05
2.52
0.07
0
0.89
0.54
0
0
15.36
23.25
17.19
12.10
23.07
2.37
3.13
0.92
0.49
1.40
0.73
0
0
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Distance to:
Timis_ind
7.40619335
Romania_Crisana
8.48232869
Romania_Transilvania
8.65725707
Romania_Oltenia
8.78752858
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.97619630
Romania_Moldova_Sud
9.32871374
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.59172906
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
10.37510964
Romania_Maramures
10.64952581
Romania_Muntenia
10.67923218
Romania_Moldova_Nord
10.84332975
Romania_Dobrogea
10.94432273
Romania_Banat
11.33387401
Bulgarian
11.85874361
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.59123902
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
15.11386780
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
17.81340226
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
23.60075211
Ukrainian_Lviv
28.67290533
Romania_Jewish
29.81960764
Crimean_Tatar
31.94211014
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.79856094
Romania_Roma
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Horrible fit
Target: Timis_ind
Distance: 6.4227% / 6.42266792 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
24.6 Romania_Crisana
23.0 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
1.6 Romania_Roma
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Distance to:
Timis_ind
5.87845218
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.79449777
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.70686058
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
8.22857825
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
8.24909692
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
8.35412473
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.53187553
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.10033516
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
9.32005365
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
9.36317254
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.68160111
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.71954731
Romania_Banat_Timis
9.77122306
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
10.49011439
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
11.09532785
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
12.03052784
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
12.15040740
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
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WeirdLookingFellow
09-13-2020, 08:28 PM
33 baltic in the heart of Transylvania - regardless of history, migrations etc. , It's strange. People from Salaj are not known for looking out of the ordinary there.
Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:34 PM
33 baltic in the heart of Transylvania - regardless of history, migrations etc. , It's strange. People from Salaj are not known for looking out of the ordinary there.
Why do you think that they are supposed to look different at this percentage? I've examples from Suceava-Botosani with like 29% Atlantic and 35% Baltic who are swarthier than the average Romanian and conversely people from Giurgiu-Teleorman with 20%-20% who are lighter than most. Phenotypes don't seem to depend too much on this. They are connected more to the people with whom the mixing occured historically and the SNP lottery within one's family.
I think that they mixed with Hungarians in Salaj by the looks of it. It's also connected to Maramures, so perhaps some Ukrainians joined the fest as well.
WeirdLookingFellow
09-13-2020, 08:53 PM
Why do you think that they are supposed to look different at this percentage? I've examples from Suceava-Botosani with like 29% Atlantic and 35% Baltic who are swarthier than the average Romanian and conversely people from Giurgiu-Teleorman with 20%-20% who are lighter than most. Phenotypes don't seem to depend too much on this. They are connected more to the people with whom the mixing occured historically and the SNP lottery within one's family.
I think that they mixed with Hungarians in Salaj by the looks of it. It's also connected to Maramures, so perhaps some Ukrainians joined the fest as well.
Imo Romania should be known for having brothers that look phenotypically quite different, I know people from Vâlcea who are probably 23-20 Na / Baltic and are blue eyed blondes. phenotype is as random as we were told it is. But the thing is that Bucovina people, despite having their fair share of swarthy guys like me, do look more NE European on average. I've visited the entire Romanian part of Moldova due to my relatives being scattered, my swarthy face was not obscure in any part of Suceava.
4 samples is not enough to say anything though so very curious to see more, really appreciate what you are doing.
Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 10:21 PM
From Timis
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
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Compared to others from Timis
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.53
23.76
18.21
11.00
19.10
2.17
0
0
1.32
0.37
0.12
0
0.42
18.25
27.74
20.29
11.12
17.52
1.91
0.40
0.90
0.63
1.24
0
0
0
24.06
28.12
17.87
5.65
19.29
1.76
0
1.51
0.37
1.04
0
0.33
0
21.77
24.15
18.41
12.23
18.17
2.49
0.97
0.05
0.85
0.90
0
0
0
23.99
25.36
15.22
15.57
13.99
1.91
1.38
0
2.57
0
0
0
0
21.71
25.42
17.45
9.79
19.16
2.28
1.14
0.44
1.47
0.82
0.33
0
0
20.09
26.81
19.78
11.97
18.06
1.00
1.80
0
0.24
0
0.24
0
0
23.27
26.87
20.21
8.86
16.34
1.91
0
0.52
0
0.92
0.59
0.51
0
20.86
28.67
19.06
9.41
17.83
1.64
0.28
1.50
0.19
0
0.13
0.43
0
20.86
28.54
16.38
13.48
15.02
2.32
0.37
0
2.60
0
0
0
0.42
21.43
24.08
16.80
12.91
20.21
3.76
0.09
0
0.35
0.08
0.29
0
0
21.78
24.90
16.48
11.17
18.52
3.16
0.41
0.89
2.64
0
0.06
0
0
21.95
23.73
16.39
9.97
20.92
3.84
0.54
0.22
0.76
1.21
0.47
0
0
23.81
25.88
18.64
12.16
15.14
1.30
0
1.15
1.33
0
0.59
0
0
24.53
25.10
18.74
10.33
17.26
1.30
0
0.91
1.60
0
0.16
0
0.08
24.75
24.97
16.15
10.82
15.93
3.22
1.56
1.04
1.40
0
0.16
0
0
23.84
24.14
18.67
9.75
18.49
1.05
2.52
0.07
0
0.89
0.54
0
0
15.36
23.25
17.19
12.10
23.07
2.37
3.13
0.92
0.49
1.40
0.73
0
0
29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0
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Distance to:
Timis_ind
2.44799918
Bulgaria_Southwestern
2.78044960
Romania_Wallachia
2.88038192
Macedonian_Northwest
2.88522096
Romania_Muntenia
3.09152066
Bulgaria_average
3.13912408
Romania_Oltenia
3.30046966
Romania_Dobruja
3.35873488
Bulgaria_Northcentral
3.51363060
Bulgaria_Northeastern
3.56854312
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.63097783
Romania_Banat
3.65387466
Bulgaria_Southcentral
3.76162199
Romania_average
3.90696813
Moldova_South
3.98298883
Romania_Transylvania
4.02555586
Montenegrin
4.25225822
Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.27079398
North_Macedonian
4.67969016
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.97984940
Pomak_Nevrokopi
5.20550670
MMacedonian
5.22673895
Moldova_South_Gagauzia
5.33052530
Macedonian_East
5.49376010
Serb_Serbia_South&East
5.56980251
Bulgaria_Southeastern
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Distance to:
Timis_ind
2.88522096
Romania_Muntenia
3.13912408
Romania_Oltenia
3.30046966
Romania_Dobrogea
3.35289427
Bulgarian
3.63097783
Romania_Banat
3.98298883
Romania_Transilvania
4.67969016
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.80576438
Romania_Crisana
6.73191652
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
6.84228032
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
8.04803703
Romania_Maramures
9.19219234
Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.45674891
Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.03627741
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.85645867
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
11.08848953
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.51906855
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
24.27098886
Ukrainian_Lviv
24.72123986
Romania_Jewish
25.40159444
Crimean_Tatar
28.82238019
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.68825508
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Target: Timis_ind
Distance: 2.2997% / 2.29965545 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 Bulgarian
34.2 Romania_Oltenia
10.8 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
3.0 Romania_Jewish
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
-Bulgarian, Hungarian
Target: Timis_ind
Distance: 2.4492% / 2.44918457 | ADC: 0.25x
72.6 Romania_Oltenia
19.0 Romania_Muntenia
4.4 Romania_Jewish
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
1.2 Romania_Transilvania
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_ind
3.50841845
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.79108164
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.81359411
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.06909081
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.36178862
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.47553349
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.72188522
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.83414936
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.83686882
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.86417516
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.28938560
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.83802603
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.39758894
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
9.06158375
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
10.54853544
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
11.24462538
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
13.44624111
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
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Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 10:30 PM
From Brasov
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.11
27.24
17.37
8.32
16.95
3.47
0
0.67
1.28
0.30
0
0.28
0
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
26.04
21.14
15.62
12.56
19.49
1.08
0
0.46
1.66
1.15
0
0
0.81
27.93
24.28
15.00
8.15
18.26
3.29
1.20
0.40
0.53
0.97
0
0
0
22.00
21.66
19.87
11.48
20.39
2.79
0
0.89
0.16
0.31
0.44
0
0
25.07
23.78
16.99
11.66
16.06
2.05
1.78
0
0.85
0.87
0.65
0.05
0.19
24.67
25.49
16.67
9.52
18.10
3.58
1.01
0
0.96
0
0
0
0
27.39
26.82
15.62
8.79
16.35
2.03
0.85
1.49
0.66
0
0
0
0
23.70
24.76
15.29
11.09
18.44
2.95
0.60
0.62
1.25
1.28
0
0
0
26.18
23.61
19.13
10.45
17.51
0
0
2.27
0.75
0
0.07
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.33
25.65
17.60
10.77
15.75
4.11
1.08
0
0.58
0.56
0.16
0
0.42
27.42
26.31
16.75
10.09
11.97
3.54
0
1.78
1.65
0
0.30
0.15
0
24.72
29.10
13.70
11.26
16.17
1.39
1.88
0.97
0
0.53
0
0
0.28
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Distance to:
Brasov_ind
2.43061721
Serb_Serbia_South&East
2.47755928
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
2.53254812
Romania_Moldavia_South
2.98011745
Romania_Transylvania
3.01134521
Romania_Crisana
3.04197304
Montenegrin
3.14930151
Romania_average
3.33127603
Serb_Serbia
3.49002865
Serb
3.58544279
Serb_Croatia_Lika
3.64614865
Romania_Maramures
3.71362357
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.73101863
Romania_Banat
3.80414248
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.91095896
Bulgaria_Northwestern
3.92940199
Serb_Croatia
3.94172551
Romania_Oltenia
3.97664431
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.20515160
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.37443711
Moldova_South
4.39574795
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.45362773
Moldova_average
4.55877176
Romania_Wallachia
4.90426345
Serb_B&H
5.06292406
Romania_Dobruja
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
2.53254812
Romania_Moldova_Sud
2.98011745
Romania_Transilvania
3.01134521
Romania_Crisana
3.64614865
Romania_Maramures
3.73101863
Romania_Banat
3.94172551
Romania_Oltenia
5.06292406
Romania_Dobrogea
5.25270407
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.36180940
Romania_Muntenia
5.51176923
Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.50181513
Bulgarian
6.95284775
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.27977790
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.20419470
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.50683438
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
13.79904345
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.44269712
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
19.89817077
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.06402224
Crimean_Tatar
28.39543977
Romania_Jewish
28.90439240
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
33.78935779
Romania_Roma
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Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 1.7970% / 1.79702859 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Romania_Maramures
23.0 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
16.2 Romania_Crisana
11.2 Romania_Moldova_Csango
-Aromanian, Hungarian
Target: Brasov_ind
Distance: 2.5624% / 2.56239740 | ADC: 0.25x
61.8 Romania_Transilvania
28.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.4 Romania_Dobrogea
1.0 Romania_Jewish
<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_ind
2.20569717
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
2.32845442
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.01174368
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.12185842
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.21970496
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.25673149
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.51589249
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.56645482
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.09019559
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.11821563
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.55851950
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.67068517
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.74474446
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.59127454
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.50375239
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.43021209
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.14014793
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 10:41 PM
From Hunedoara
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
26.11
25.15
17.66
10.16
18.32
0.67
0.83
0
0
0.57
0.53
0
0
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Compared to others from Hunedoara
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.82
28.60
14.14
7.82
15.65
1.69
2.83
0
1.35
1.84
0.31
0
0.96
24.63
26.61
17.48
9.90
14.78
1.52
1.61
1.13
1.75
0
0.56
0
0
19.93
26.32
17.29
11.99
20.94
0.79
0
0
1.39
1.02
0
0
0.34
21.86
27.72
15.87
10.14
20.55
0.47
0
0
2.51
0.59
0
0
0.30
21.42
27.28
19.35
9.81
19.37
0
0.06
0
1.54
0.45
0.15
0.54
0
24.61
24.67
17.56
9.79
18.95
2.51
0
0.79
0
0.82
0.30
0
0
26.15
29.70
16.65
9.14
14.91
1.56
0.13
0.58
0.28
0.30
0.13
0.47
0
21.84
26.31
16.46
10.54
20.70
1.99
0
0.46
0.67
0.29
0.73
0
0
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Distance to:
Hunedoara_ind
2.69612685
Montenegrin
2.91665905
Bosniak_Sandzak
2.93438239
Romania_Transylvania
3.12046471
Romania_Oltenia
3.52586160
Romania_Crisana
3.59208853
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.60696548
Romania_average
3.95917921
Romania_Wallachia
4.05312225
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.17290067
Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.24921169
Romania_Banat
4.27604958
Macedonian_Northwest
4.54658113
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.67545720
Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.92411413
Romania_Dobruja
4.93115605
Romania_Muntenia
5.04886126
Moldova_South
5.05086131
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.21389490
Bulgaria_average
5.32776689
Serb_Serbia
5.33802398
Serb_Croatia
5.37345152
North_Macedonian
5.45886435
Serb
5.51175108
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
5.63271693
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Hunedoara_ind
2.93438239
Romania_Transilvania
3.12046471
Romania_Oltenia
3.52586160
Romania_Crisana
3.59208853
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.24921169
Romania_Banat
4.92411413
Romania_Dobrogea
4.93115605
Romania_Muntenia
5.40619090
Bulgarian
6.14150633
Romania_Maramures
7.50808231
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.57307071
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.86497388
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.50174688
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
8.51301357
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
8.62543717
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
12.89554962
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
16.31709839
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
22.26169131
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.99671647
Romania_Jewish
28.37382949
Crimean_Tatar
31.20298704
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.74784268
Romania_Roma
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Target: Hunedoara_ind
Distance: 2.5201% / 2.52008296 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Romania_Crisana
18.4 Romania_Oltenia
5.8 Romania_Jewish
-Crisana
Target: Hunedoara_ind
Distance: 2.7534% / 2.75339125 | ADC: 0.25x
61.6 Romania_Transilvania
22.0 Romania_Oltenia
10.0 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.4 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
<tbody>
Distance to:
Hunedoara_ind
2.08031248
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
2.42334480
Romania_Crisana_Arad
2.92212252
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.50766304
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.54878853
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.62673407
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.78223479
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.83184029
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.21653886
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.24226355
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.60777604
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.80368608
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.05191463
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.62022041
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.63329601
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.42879101
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.89395245
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
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Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 10:57 PM
From Alba
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
21.96
28.66
19.53
10.90
17.01
0
0.72
0.44
0
0.60
0
0.18
0
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Compared to others from Alba
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.79
24.55
19.05
9.12
19.31
0.11
0
0.64
0.58
0
0.86
0
0
25.30
26.72
16.77
10.42
15.77
2.18
0.09
0
0.36
1.87
0.52
0
0
26.53
25.09
15.61
8.87
19.04
1.95
0.33
0.73
0.32
0.57
0.22
0.74
0
24.95
27.37
17.13
9.41
15.89
1.33
0.92
0.22
1.74
1.04
0
0
0
26.75
28.14
17.13
9.94
11.75
2.41
0.27
0
0.77
1.92
0.93
0
0
22.63
26.49
16.79
11.52
20.83
0.83
0
0.28
0.37
0
0.26
0
0
23.93
24.30
20.37
11.76
17.05
0
0
0
0
1.05
1.08
0
0.46
24.37
25.88
18.06
10.39
17.43
0.22
0
2.47
0.72
0.46
0
0
0
25.19
23.82
18.28
11.80
15.18
0.40
1.58
0
1.49
0.87
1.28
0
0.10
24.08
26.00
17.69
9.73
19.18
1.58
0.91
0
0
0.08
0.75
0
0
23.65
25.19
19.88
9.40
15.76
2.95
0
0
3.16
0
0
0
0
25.53
24.30
18.37
9.10
18.27
1.22
0
0.33
1.04
1.60
0.24
0
0
28.28
24.25
16.65
9.21
16.34
1.67
1.68
0
1.75
0
0
0
0.17
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Distance to:
Alba_ind
4.03127771
Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.27392092
Romania_Banat
4.36449310
Romania_average
4.54148654
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.55428370
Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.62793691
Moldova_South
4.63276375
Serb_Serbia
4.75099989
Romania_Transylvania
4.76775629
Romania_Oltenia
4.78141193
Romania_Crisana
4.79034446
Serb
4.81958504
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.83686882
Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.85876528
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.03349779
Montenegrin
5.07847418
Romania_Wallachia
5.16105609
Bosniak_Sandzak
5.22707375
Romania_Maramures
5.25058092
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
5.39024118
Serb_Croatia
5.39033394
Moldova_average
5.47036562
Romania_Dobruja
5.54421320
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
5.62194806
Romania_Muntenia
5.78314793
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Alba_ind
4.27392092
Romania_Banat
4.54148654
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.75099989
Romania_Transilvania
4.76775629
Romania_Oltenia
4.78141193
Romania_Crisana
5.22707375
Romania_Maramures
5.47036562
Romania_Dobrogea
5.62194806
Romania_Muntenia
6.25188771
Bulgarian
6.64128000
Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.33845909
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.67430444
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.70635517
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.40691597
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.45865192
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
14.57190791
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.01106925
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
20.44696310
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.68714503
Crimean_Tatar
29.30865913
Romania_Jewish
29.87636189
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
33.26202339
Romania_Roma
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Target: Alba_ind
Distance: 3.7134% / 3.71339166 | ADC: 0.25x
86.6 Romania_Banat
11.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
2.4 Romania_Maramures
-BanatTarget: Alba_ind
Distance: 3.7945% / 3.79450736 | ADC: 0.25x
58.6 Romania_Maramures
41.4 Bulgarian
<tbody>
Distance to:
Alba_ind
3.25392071
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.16044469
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.16905265
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.29538124
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.48586669
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.76929764
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.80002083
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.03555359
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.47518949
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.91355223
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.13719806
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.56515042
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.01541161
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.19780522
Romania_Crisana_Arad
10.01781413
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.90614047
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.07128719
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Coastal Elite
10-01-2020, 11:11 PM
I'm not sure if you want to include a Székely from Mures who I am distantly related to. He appear to be heavily mixed but his surname is Hungarian.
K-13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.79
2 North_Atlantic 26.89
3 West_Med 16.43
4 East_Med 13.24
5 West_Asian 7.98
6 Siberian 3.47
7 Red_Sea 1.87
8 Oceanian 0.58
9 South_Asian 0.56
10 Amerindian 0.13
11 Northeast_African 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.02
2 Moldavian 6.23
3 Romanian 7.24
4 Hungarian 7.45
5 Croatian 8.19
6 Bulgarian 9.78
7 Austrian 10.71
8 East_German 11.99
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.24
10 South_Polish 14.77
11 Ukrainian 15.51
12 West_German 16.16
13 South_Dutch 17.49
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.78
15 French 17.84
16 Polish 18.45
17 North_Italian 18.82
18 Southwest_Russian 19.03
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.55
20 Tatar 20.35
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.62
2 56.2% North_Italian + 43.8% Erzya @ 1.79
3 91.6% Serbian + 8.4% Mari @ 2.51
4 53.8% Tuscan + 46.2% Erzya @ 2.72
5 90.8% Serbian + 9.2% Chuvash @ 2.72
6 95.7% Serbian + 4.3% Selkup @ 2.77
7 55.3% Greek_Thessaly + 44.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.83
8 87.6% Serbian + 12.4% Tatar @ 2.84
9 76.5% Romanian + 23.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.84
10 95.7% Serbian + 4.3% Ket @ 2.85
11 59.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.4% Tuscan @ 2.86
12 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% East_Finnish @ 2.91
13 88.9% Serbian + 11.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.93
14 57.4% Ukrainian + 42.6% Tuscan @ 2.95
15 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% East_Finnish @ 2.95
16 52.2% Southwest_Russian + 47.8% Tuscan @ 2.97
17 78.5% Romanian + 21.5% Finnish @ 3
18 70% Bulgarian + 30% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.04
19 96.9% Serbian + 3.1% Dolgan @ 3.06
20 50.2% West_Sicilian + 49.8% Estonian @ 3.08
Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 11:12 PM
From Cluj (Romanian)
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.61
28.23
15.91
5.44
16.08
3.81
0
1.54
0.99
0.39
0
0
0
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Compared to others from Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
16.92
24.96
20.30
12.53
20.37
0
0
2.56
2.11
0
0.25
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
4.44289320
Serb_Croatia_Lika
4.95199960
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
5.14390902
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.24020992
Hungarian_Szekely
5.28806203
Hungarian_Csango
5.35081302
Hungarian_Eastern
5.41036967
Serb_Croatia
5.50782171
Romania_Maramures
5.61506011
Croat_B&H_Bosnia
5.63180255
Serb
5.64605172
Serb_Serbia
5.71223249
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
5.78364072
Romania_Crisana
5.79332374
Bosniak
5.79489430
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
5.82667143
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.87382329
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
5.89425144
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
5.95755822
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.13101134
Serb_B&H
6.15772685
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6.20685105
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.43073091
Croat_B&H
6.44498254
Serb_Serbia_South&East
6.45661676
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
4.70689919
Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.36826815
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.50782171
Romania_Maramures
5.78364072
Romania_Crisana
5.85757829
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.20685105
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.57063924
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.92307735
Romania_Transilvania
8.15614492
Romania_Oltenia
8.42633966
Romania_Banat
9.57063739
Romania_Dobrogea
9.90547828
Romania_Muntenia
10.90756160
Bulgarian
12.03095591
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.98095913
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.25947963
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
17.81501614
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.11348393
Ukrainian_Lviv
29.07543981
Crimean_Tatar
30.16647145
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
31.17121910
Romania_Jewish
36.39789554
Romania_Roma
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Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 4.1785% / 4.17854806 | ADC: 0.25x
53.0 Romania_Moldova_Csango
29.8 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
5.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
4.0 Romania_Jewish
1.0 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
-Hungarian
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 4.9106% / 4.91056495 | ADC: 0.25x
71.0 Romania_Crisana
25.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
3.8 Romania_Jewish
-Ukrainian
Target: Cluj_ind
Distance: 5.3426% / 5.34262546 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Romania_Maramures
46.2 Romania_Crisana
3.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
5.15212577
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
5.68096823
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.85440860
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.54838148
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.58039512
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.73294883
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.75048146
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.80476304
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.99522694
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
7.18192175
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
7.19025034
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.24397681
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.28753045
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.45479711
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.50590434
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.71942659
Romania_Banat_Timis
12.64807891
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
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Do you have this kit? I'd like to see other results of them
16.92 24.96 20.30 12.53 20.37 0 0 2.56 2.11
The Mongoloid is "huge".
Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 11:30 AM
Do you have this kit? I'd like to see other results of them
The Mongoloid is "huge".
Yep
Okay, show me their Siberian & East Asian from Dodecad. I wonder if it's consistently high.
Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 12:17 PM
Okay, show me their Siberian & East Asian from Dodecad. I wonder if it's consistently high.
It's 1% lower, same as in my case.
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Gedrosia
4.97 Pct
Siberian
1.36 Pct
Northwest_African
0.56 Pct
Southeast_Asian
0.70 Pct
Atlantic_Med
26.38 Pct
North_European
30.49 Pct
South_Asian
-
East_African
-
Southwest_Asian
5.28 Pct
East_Asian
1.38 Pct
Caucasus
28.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan
-
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Maybe that's Szekely influence?
Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 12:54 PM
Maybe that's Szekely influence?
The Szekely influence should have shown on other components too, which doesn't appear to be the case. Some people from Romania and Moldova just have a decent chunk of East Asian/Siberian heritage. We can speculate if that's from Tatars, Szeklers, Huns, Cumans, Pechenegs, Bulgars and so on. Check the Wallachian thread. There are people with respectable East Asian/Siberian too in Calarasi, on the border with Bulgaria.
aherne
10-08-2020, 06:53 PM
Interesting that those "pure" Transylvanian Germans appear almost indistinguishable from Romanians. I think, like Szekelers, the main difference in 95% of cases is today one of language: 5% of Saxons look German and 5% of Szekelers look Magyar, 10% look mixed and 85% look standard Romanian.
Ion Basescul
10-08-2020, 07:15 PM
Interesting that those "pure" Transylvanian Germans appear almost indistinguishable from Romanians. I think, like Szekelers, the main difference in 95% of cases is today one of language: 5% of Saxons look German and 5% of Szekelers look Magyar, 10% look mixed and 85% look standard Romanian.
Considering that there are samples from even the same village in some cases that look like average Wallachian genetically compared to their co-villagers, I think it's pretty clear that a lot of assimilation happened on both sides. Romanians assimilated Szeklers/Hungarians plus Saxons, and viceversa.
In places like Arad, I have 7 samples with 4 grandparents from there that say that they are all Romanians, but in all but 1 case they score more North Atlantic than Baltic. If it were just a couple I'd think that maybe the components are not distributed in a balanced manner. But when it's so often, I think that indicates that minorities have been assimilated there a long time ago into the Romanian ethnic identity.
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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.57
24.00
19.31
7.29
17.40
0.61
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1.27
0.75
0.26
0.98
0
0.55
23.58
25.51
17.64
8.15
19.75
2.32
0
0
1.91
1.15
0
0
0
26.05
21.87
19.47
12.26
15.09
1.59
1.71
0.30
1.26
0
0.38
0
0
28.66
23.95
15.36
6.58
16.85
3.30
3.16
1.72
0.22
0
0
0
0.19
27.74
25.83
16.89
8.16
19.04
0.77
0
0
0.71
0.86
0
0
0
25.18
22.55
19.19
12.33
15.99
1.52
0.06
0.53
0.1
1.27
0.63
0.65
0
25.78
22.04
16.38
13.14
18.78
2.29
0.33
0.62
0
0.51
0
0.13
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In general, in Transylvania there are significantly more cases of people scoring more NA than Baltic compared to the rest of the country, so that probably points to the assimilation of Szeklers/Hungarians and Saxons.
Coastal Elite
10-08-2020, 07:40 PM
Transylvanian Saxons are the most south shifted Germans in Europe? Thoughts?
WeirdLookingFellow
10-08-2020, 07:58 PM
Transylvanian Saxons are the most south shifted Germans in Europe? Thoughts?
Not sure how many Transylvanian Saxons that got "sold" to Germany are still alive - maybe those are less mixed with Romanians.
Ion Basescul
10-08-2020, 07:58 PM
Transylvanian Saxons are the most south shifted Germans in Europe? Thoughts?
We don't have a sufficient number of Saxons to be able to conclude that. I personally have seen only 2.
Declared full Saxon
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.80
23.90
16.40
11.34
15.81
1.81
0.97
0.44
0
0.32
0.14
0.08
0
30.10
26.02
16.78
7.59
14.70
2.70
0
0.83
0
0.89
0
0
0.37
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1/2 Romanian, 1/2 Saxon
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.88
26.28
17.72
10.59
11.28
1.75
0.52
0
1.14
1.07
0.36
0
0.40
29.21
27.19
15.89
5.67
15.46
4.29
0.36
1.58
0
0
0.24
0
0.12
28.31
24.08
18.71
11.31
11.92
2.05
0.57
1.91
0
0.48
0.59
0
0.07
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3/4 Romanian, 1/4 Bucovina German
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
30.72
21.91
14.63
10.87
17.11
2.33
1.47
0.95
0
0
0
0
0
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1/2 Romanian, 1/2 German American
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
30.99
33.00
15.18
6.85
9.60
1.65
1.76
0
0.77
0
0
0
0.21
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I posted a half Banat German on the German Gedmatch thread.
Ion Basescul
10-08-2020, 09:05 PM
I posted a half Banat German on the German Gedmatch thread.
I only saw the 1/2 German from Germany and 1/2 from Transylvania whose ethnicity you did not specify.
I only saw the 1/2 German from Germany and 1/2 from Transylvania whose ethnicity you did not specify.
Yeah, and Banat is Transylvania as far as I know. Banat is a less widely known name. That person is fully German American.
Ion Basescul
10-08-2020, 09:09 PM
Yeah, and Banat is Transylvania as far as I know. Banat is a less widely known name. That person is fully German American.
As a macro-region, yes, but Transylvania usually refers only to Central Romania. The border regions have different names. Anyway, the person is not Banat German.
As a macro-region, yes, but Transylvania usually refers only to Central Romania. The border regions have different names. Anyway, the person is not Banat German.
His daughter who runs the account put "Arad, Hungary" as his maternal grandparents' birthplace. I googled and it's Romania today, like the Westernmost counties of Romania.
His daughter who runs the account put "Arad, Hungary" as his maternal grandparents' birthplace. I googled and it's Romania today, like the Westernmost counties of Romania.
That region is called Crișana. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cri%C8%99ana
Crișana, Banat and Maramures are all western Romania, but they are not Transylvania proper, rather distinct regions.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Transylvania%2C_Banat%2C_Crisana_and_Maramures.svg/1920px-Transylvania%2C_Banat%2C_Crisana_and_Maramures.svg .png
Ion Basescul
10-08-2020, 09:20 PM
His daughter who runs the account put "Arad, Hungary" as his maternal grandparents' birthplace. I googled and it's Romania today, like the Westernmost counties of Romania.
This sample? Did you see the surnames of the side from Arad? Arad county was 61% Romanian at the time the grandparents were likely born. Arad the city only 39% Romanian
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Arad_1930_pop1-1.jpg
American. Half of his ancestry is from Transylvania (modern-day Western Romania) and the rest is from Brandenburg and Thuringia
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 41.75
2 Baltic 23.59
3 West_Med 16.22
4 East_Med 7.52
5 West_Asian 6.54
6 Red_Sea 1.94
7 Oceanian 1.07
8 Siberian 0.68
9 Amerindian 0.39
10 South_Asian 0.31
This sample? Did you see the surnames of the side from Arad? Arad county was 61% Romanian at the time the grandparents were likely born. Arad the city only 39% Romanian
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Arad_1930_pop1-1.jpg
Yes, this. I'll tell you the surnames privately but they're all very German.
Born: 25 OCT 1879, Pankota, Arad, Hungary
Born: 04 OCT 1888, Neupanat, Arad, Hungary
Ion Basescul
10-08-2020, 09:37 PM
Yes, this. I'll tell you the surnames privately but they're all very German.
Yeah, full German apparently. It would be interesting if they had the side from Romania isolated to see the first German from Crisana. Those 2 that I have are from Brasov in Southeastern Transylvania.
Yeah, full German apparently. It would be interesting if they had the side from Romania isolated to see the first German from Crisana. Those 2 that I have are from Brasov in Southeastern Transylvania.
Unfortunately we'll never know. Those two people came to Minnesota and their daughter, the man's mother was born there. His paternal side appears to be either fully or mostly from Eastern Germany (they tend to be Slavic-shifted with up to 35% Baltic), so probably that mixture rendered this South German-like result. Who knows.
War Chef
10-09-2020, 02:15 AM
Banat je Srpska
Actually, everything je srpska
even your mom
Ion Basescul
10-18-2020, 11:24 AM
I have 4 Transylvanian Saxons (3 are close family) found by Peterski. They were all born in the countryside (1 in Brasov, 3 family members from Mures (Sighisoara)) and look significantly more German than those 2 that I already had. Mine were from the town of Brasov, so perhaps they are more Romanian-influenced because of the character of an urban setting.
Also interesting to note that those from urban Brasov live in Romania, while these left for Germany during the communist period.
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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
Brasov_urban_1
28.80
23.90
16.40
11.34
15.81
1.81
0.97
0.44
0
0.32
0.14
0.08
0
Brasov_urban_2
30.10
26.02
16.78
7.59
14.70
2.70
0
0.83
0
0.89
0
0
0.37
Brasov_rural
42.38
19.00
19.51
5.95
10.16
0.78
0.72
0
0
1.08
0.43
0
0
Mures_Sighisoara_1
41.95
21.58
18.39
4.69
10.93
1.08
0.66
0
0
0.69
0
0
0
Mures_Sighisoara_2
39.60
25.27
16.14
6.41
8.05
1.75
0.84
0.85
0.67
0.09
0
0
0.29
Mures_Sighisoara_3
38.88
23.90
18.71
4.80
10.71
0.95
1.02
0.40
0
0.61
0
0
0
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Distance to:
Brasov_rural
2.12739277
FRA_Central
3.58159182
Swiss_German2
3.63174889
FRA_Belgica
4.51566163
French
4.65835808
Swiss_German
5.14203267
FRA_Alsace
5.40847483
Swiss_French
6.05956269
AostaValley
6.28419446
South_Dutch
8.24403421
German_West
9.02352481
FRA_Septimania
9.91647115
FRA_Armorica
10.34858928
Spanish_Cataluna
11.15766105
German
11.19165314
Dutch
11.37286683
English_Southeast
11.40860640
Swiss-Italian2
11.87280506
FRA_Provence
11.96135026
IT_Trentino
11.99089655
Portuguese
12.02524428
Spanish_Galicia
12.04497821
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
12.23551797
Swiss_Italian
12.31381744
English_Midlands
12.85657030
English
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_Sighisoara_1
2.53333772
Swiss_German2
3.16080686
Swiss_German
3.37850559
FRA_Alsace
3.62102196
FRA_Belgica
4.23407605
FRA_Central
5.48672033
South_Dutch
5.54669271
Swiss_French
6.80499816
French
7.04455109
German_West
8.18003056
AostaValley
9.24240229
German
9.81985743
FRA_Armorica
10.27513990
Dutch
10.95749059
Austrian
11.01090369
FRA_Septimania
11.04308381
English_Southeast
11.90280219
English_Midlands
12.16497020
IT_Trentino
12.18280345
Swiss-Italian2
12.38046041
English
12.38689227
Spanish_Cataluna
12.59238262
Swiss_Italian
12.82930629
FRA_Provence
12.95168715
English_North
13.31892638
North_German
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_Sighisoara_2
3.33433652
FRA_Alsace
4.34027649
Swiss_German
5.05579865
Swiss_German2
5.12884977
German
5.56962297
Austrian
5.57752633
German_West
5.96714337
South_Dutch
6.12296497
FRA_Belgica
7.00327780
Swiss_French
9.09855483
FRA_Central
9.39289093
Dutch
10.16387229
German_East
10.29752883
FRA_Armorica
10.50510352
Hungarian_Transdanubia
10.62474000
North_German
10.85355241
English_Southeast
11.23342334
Hungarian_Budapest
11.27981383
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
11.56289324
French
11.71968430
English_Midlands
11.86380630
English
12.06726978
Hungarian
12.27151987
AostaValley
12.35228319
Hungarian_Transylvania
12.41149467
Slovenian
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_Sighisoara_3
3.55449012
Swiss_German
3.65376518
FRA_Alsace
4.16215089
Swiss_German2
4.90979633
Swiss_French
6.33554260
FRA_Belgica
7.02778059
FRA_Central
7.61938318
South_Dutch
8.26821021
Austrian
8.30698501
German_West
8.83135890
German
9.27918639
French
9.52815827
AostaValley
11.40612993
IT_Trentino
11.65970840
Hungarian_Transdanubia
12.01204396
Dutch
12.15949423
FRA_Armorica
12.40610334
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
12.42982703
Hungarian_Budapest
12.47817695
Hungarian_Transylvania
12.47875795
Swiss-Italian2
12.81884160
FRA_Septimania
12.88441306
German_East
12.93155056
Hungarian_Szekely
12.97435162
IT_Friuli-VG
13.01392331
Swiss_Italian
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<tbody>
Distance to:
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5.30186760
Montenegrin
5.42690520
Romania_Transylvania
5.48474247
Romania_Crisana
5.50428924
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.87038329
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.03164986
Romania_Oltenia
6.07109545
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.34213686
Romania_average
6.84748129
Romania_Wallachia
6.85390400
Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.86654935
Hungarian_Szekely
7.05505493
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.16119403
Serb
7.16889810
Serb_Croatia
7.20710067
Serb_Serbia_South&East
7.25671413
Romania_Banat
7.28433937
Serb_Croatia_Lika
7.28998628
Serb_Serbia
7.33480743
Serb
7.51825778
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
7.56121022
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
7.60723340
Hungarian_Transylvania
7.68179016
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
7.72230536
Romania_Maramures
7.75199329
Romania_Muntenia
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_urban_2
4.84617375
Hungarian_Szekely
5.20783064
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.23229395
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.78799620
Romania_Crisana
5.87176294
Hungarian_Csango
6.20710077
Serb_Croatia_Lika
6.23030497
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.44443946
Serb_Croatia
6.69552089
Serb
6.84582354
Serb
6.86195307
Serb_Serbia
6.88809843
Montenegrin
6.93915701
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.94991367
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.96170956
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
7.00269948
Romania_Transylvania
7.00918683
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.07573318
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
7.10736941
Romania_Maramures
7.19619344
Bosniak
7.27265426
Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
7.47418892
Serb_B&H
7.48444387
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7.51804496
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
7.63457923
Serb_Serbia_South&East
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Ion Basescul
10-18-2020, 11:31 AM
This is the average of 6 Saxons if anyone needs it
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon,36.95,23.28,17.66,6.80, 11.73,1.51,0.70,0.42,0.11,0.61,0.10,0.01,0.11
Tommie
10-18-2020, 01:35 PM
In general, in Transylvania there are significantly more cases of people scoring more NA than Baltic compared to the rest of the country, so that probably points to the assimilation of Szeklers/Hungarians and Saxons.
I think it could be due to common ancestry shared with Szeklers/Hungarians and Saxons (i.e. Celtic admixture, Celts settled in Transylvania).
Ion Basescul
10-18-2020, 02:16 PM
I think it could be due to common ancestry shared with Szeklers/Hungarians and Saxons (i.e. Celtic admixture, Celts settled in Transylvania).
I doubt that.
WeirdLookingFellow
10-18-2020, 02:38 PM
I doubt that.
You can argue that Aeduard's point is correct, although there are 2 factors at play:
1) Despite the privileges of Hungarians and Szeklers, peasants were peasants and the aforementioned privileges did not concern them; mixing will happen.
2) Even so, the religious barrier proved itself to be at least partially effective in keeping populations separate from each other. The greek-catholic church probably helped with said barrier.
I think that if certified 4/4 Csango grandparent results would come up in enough numbers, we could probably use those to safely say whether mixing was older (celtic/germanic, pre-Hungarian state), or over the course of the 1000 years together.
aherne
10-18-2020, 06:56 PM
These oracles shit are absolutely ridiculous. We all inherit a random selection of our ancestors' genes plus errors caused by genetic drift... In racial anthropology there is something similar called convergent evolution but racial anthropology is a lot more exact as well as being fully attributable to historic events: why do people in SE Balkans, regardless of language, look more or less the same (with regional variation), whether they are Romanian, Bulgarian or Hungarian speakers? Because before Romans, Slavs, Magyars one people used to live there: the Thracians...
Ion Basescul
10-18-2020, 07:04 PM
Because before Romans, Slavs, Magyars one people used to live there: the Thracians...
Mixing with Romas/Gypsies will be the next homogenising factor for these countries.
Peterski
10-19-2020, 07:57 AM
We don't have a sufficient number of Saxons to be able to conclude that.
I sent you a 100% unmixed Transylvanian Saxon kit and a 100% unmixed Banat Swabian kit.
Ion Basescul
10-19-2020, 08:21 AM
I sent you a 100% unmixed Transylvanian Saxon kit and a 100% unmixed Banat Swabian kit.
Look at page 18.
Peterski
10-19-2020, 08:35 AM
This is the average of 6 Saxons if anyone needs it
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon,36.95,23.28,17.66,6.80, 11.73,1.51,0.70,0.42,0.11,0.61,0.10,0.01,0.11
Apart from those 4, two more, but which - not the ones who are Serbian-like?
I have 4 Transylvanian Saxons (3 are close family) found by Peterski. They were all born in the countryside (1 in Brasov, 3 family members from Mures (Sighisoara)) and look significantly more German than those 2 that I already had. Mine were from the town of Brasov, so perhaps they are more Romanian-influenced because of the character of an urban setting.
Also interesting to note that those from urban Brasov live in Romania, while these left for Germany during the communist period.
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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
Brasov_urban_1
28.80
23.90
16.40
11.34
15.81
1.81
0.97
0.44
0
0.32
0.14
0.08
0
Brasov_urban_2
30.10
26.02
16.78
7.59
14.70
2.70
0
0.83
0
0.89
0
0
0.37
Brasov_rural
42.38
19.00
19.51
5.95
10.16
0.78
0.72
0
0
1.08
0.43
0
0
Mures_Sighisoara_1
41.95
21.58
18.39
4.69
10.93
1.08
0.66
0
0
0.69
0
0
0
Mures_Sighisoara_2
39.60
25.27
16.14
6.41
8.05
1.75
0.84
0.85
0.67
0.09
0
0
0.29
Mures_Sighisoara_3
38.88
23.90
18.71
4.80
10.71
0.95
1.02
0.40
0
0.61
0
0
0
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Distance to:
Brasov_rural
2.12739277
FRA_Central
3.58159182
Swiss_German2
3.63174889
FRA_Belgica
4.51566163
French
4.65835808
Swiss_German
5.14203267
FRA_Alsace
5.40847483
Swiss_French
6.05956269
AostaValley
6.28419446
South_Dutch
8.24403421
German_West
9.02352481
FRA_Septimania
9.91647115
FRA_Armorica
10.34858928
Spanish_Cataluna
11.15766105
German
11.19165314
Dutch
11.37286683
English_Southeast
11.40860640
Swiss-Italian2
11.87280506
FRA_Provence
11.96135026
IT_Trentino
11.99089655
Portuguese
12.02524428
Spanish_Galicia
12.04497821
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
12.23551797
Swiss_Italian
12.31381744
English_Midlands
12.85657030
English
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_Sighisoara_1
2.53333772
Swiss_German2
3.16080686
Swiss_German
3.37850559
FRA_Alsace
3.62102196
FRA_Belgica
4.23407605
FRA_Central
5.48672033
South_Dutch
5.54669271
Swiss_French
6.80499816
French
7.04455109
German_West
8.18003056
AostaValley
9.24240229
German
9.81985743
FRA_Armorica
10.27513990
Dutch
10.95749059
Austrian
11.01090369
FRA_Septimania
11.04308381
English_Southeast
11.90280219
English_Midlands
12.16497020
IT_Trentino
12.18280345
Swiss-Italian2
12.38046041
English
12.38689227
Spanish_Cataluna
12.59238262
Swiss_Italian
12.82930629
FRA_Provence
12.95168715
English_North
13.31892638
North_German
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_Sighisoara_2
3.33433652
FRA_Alsace
4.34027649
Swiss_German
5.05579865
Swiss_German2
5.12884977
German
5.56962297
Austrian
5.57752633
German_West
5.96714337
South_Dutch
6.12296497
FRA_Belgica
7.00327780
Swiss_French
9.09855483
FRA_Central
9.39289093
Dutch
10.16387229
German_East
10.29752883
FRA_Armorica
10.50510352
Hungarian_Transdanubia
10.62474000
North_German
10.85355241
English_Southeast
11.23342334
Hungarian_Budapest
11.27981383
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
11.56289324
French
11.71968430
English_Midlands
11.86380630
English
12.06726978
Hungarian
12.27151987
AostaValley
12.35228319
Hungarian_Transylvania
12.41149467
Slovenian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_Sighisoara_3
3.55449012
Swiss_German
3.65376518
FRA_Alsace
4.16215089
Swiss_German2
4.90979633
Swiss_French
6.33554260
FRA_Belgica
7.02778059
FRA_Central
7.61938318
South_Dutch
8.26821021
Austrian
8.30698501
German_West
8.83135890
German
9.27918639
French
9.52815827
AostaValley
11.40612993
IT_Trentino
11.65970840
Hungarian_Transdanubia
12.01204396
Dutch
12.15949423
FRA_Armorica
12.40610334
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
12.42982703
Hungarian_Budapest
12.47817695
Hungarian_Transylvania
12.47875795
Swiss-Italian2
12.81884160
FRA_Septimania
12.88441306
German_East
12.93155056
Hungarian_Szekely
12.97435162
IT_Friuli-VG
13.01392331
Swiss_Italian
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_urban_1
5.30186760
Montenegrin
5.42690520
Romania_Transylvania
5.48474247
Romania_Crisana
5.50428924
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.87038329
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.03164986
Romania_Oltenia
6.07109545
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.34213686
Romania_average
6.84748129
Romania_Wallachia
6.85390400
Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.86654935
Hungarian_Szekely
7.05505493
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.16119403
Serb
7.16889810
Serb_Croatia
7.20710067
Serb_Serbia_South&East
7.25671413
Romania_Banat
7.28433937
Serb_Croatia_Lika
7.28998628
Serb_Serbia
7.33480743
Serb
7.51825778
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
7.56121022
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
7.60723340
Hungarian_Transylvania
7.68179016
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
7.72230536
Romania_Maramures
7.75199329
Romania_Muntenia
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Brasov_urban_2
4.84617375
Hungarian_Szekely
5.20783064
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.23229395
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.78799620
Romania_Crisana
5.87176294
Hungarian_Csango
6.20710077
Serb_Croatia_Lika
6.23030497
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.44443946
Serb_Croatia
6.69552089
Serb
6.84582354
Serb
6.86195307
Serb_Serbia
6.88809843
Montenegrin
6.93915701
Serb_Serbia_West&Central
6.94991367
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.96170956
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
7.00269948
Romania_Transylvania
7.00918683
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.07573318
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
7.10736941
Romania_Maramures
7.19619344
Bosniak
7.27265426
Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
7.47418892
Serb_B&H
7.48444387
Croat_B&H_Bosnia_proper
7.51804496
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
7.63457923
Serb_Serbia_South&East
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Yes this makes sense! They are more German than the one who claimed being Saxon but was closest to Serbs, LOL.
Full Saxon from Brasov
If he's typical then Saxons are mixed af with Romanians.
Most of his matches have German surnames. His top 5 matches are Romanians though.
Kreuzer (also has a German forename)
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#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
28.8
2
Baltic
23.9
3
West_Med
16.4
4
East_Med
15.81
5
West_Asian
11.34
6
Red_Sea
1.81
7
South_Asian
0.97
8
East_Asian
0.44
9
Amerindian
0.32
10
Oceanian
0.14
11
Northeast_African
0.08
</tbody>
Single Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Serbian
4.01
2
Romanian
4.49
3
Bulgarian
7.35
4
Hungarian
10.22
5
Moldavian
10.72
6
Austrian
11.77
7
Croatian
12.66
8
East_German
14.02
9
Greek_Thessaly
14.19
10
West_German
14.62
11
North_Italian
14.7
12
French
15.38
13
South_Dutch
16.25
14
Tuscan
16.29
15
Portuguese
18.06
16
Spanish_Galicia
18.54
17
Italian_Abruzzo
18.59
18
Spanish_Cataluna
18.88
19
Ukrainian_Lviv
19.16
20
South_Polish
19.24
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Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
<tbody>
#
Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1
77.1%
Bulgarian
+
22.9%
Irish
@
1.09
2
77.6%
Bulgarian
+
22.4%
West_Scottish
@
1.18
3
85%
Romanian
+
15%
Irish
@
1.28
4
85.4%
Romanian
+
14.6%
West_Scottish
@
1.31
5
77.3%
Romanian
+
22.7%
West_German
@
1.33
6
84.7%
Romanian
+
15.3%
Southwest_English
@
1.34
7
75.7%
Bulgarian
+
24.3%
Danish
@
1.35
8
75.9%
Bulgarian
+
24.1%
North_Dutch
@
1.37
9
76.5%
Bulgarian
+
23.5%
Orcadian
@
1.41
10
83.7%
Romanian
+
16.3%
Southeast_English
@
1.41
11
73.6%
Bulgarian
+
26.4%
North_German
@
1.42
12
79.2%
Romanian
+
20.8%
South_Dutch
@
1.46
13
84.7%
Romanian
+
15.3%
Orcadian
@
1.49
14
66.9%
Bulgarian
+
33.1%
West_German
@
1.49
15
84.3%
Romanian
+
15.7%
North_Dutch
@
1.5
16
76.7%
Bulgarian
+
23.3%
Southwest_English
@
1.51
17
84.2%
Romanian
+
15.8%
Danish
@
1.52
18
75.3%
Bulgarian
+
24.7%
Southeast_English
@
1.58
19
82.7%
Romanian
+
17.3%
North_German
@
1.59
20
69.3%
Bulgarian
+
30.7%
South_Dutch
@
1.63
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Kreuzer
Distance: 2.4531% / 2.45305566 | ADC: 0.25x
70.8
Romania_Transylvania
22.4
German_West
4.8
Ashkenazi
2.0
Romani
0.0
East_German
0.0
German_east
0.0
Hungarian_Szekely
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Banat
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Kreuzer
Distance: 1.9656% / 1.96556330 | ADC: 0.25x
66.6
Romanian_Oltenia
21.2
German_West
10.8
Romania_Muntenia
0.8
Romani
0.6
Ashkenazi
0.0
East_German
0.0
German_east
0.0
Hungarian_Szekely
0.0
Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_average
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0
Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0
Romania_Transylvania
0.0
Romanian_Wallachia
0.0
Romania_Dobruja
0.0
Romania_Maramures
0.0
Romania_Crisana
0.0
Romania_Banat
</tbody>
Can't be a "full" Saxon.
=====
Edit:
As for A189XXX which I sent you - false alarm, he is not a Saxon, not even fully German.
Peterski
10-19-2020, 09:01 AM
Top Closest population average to Transylvanian Saxons (only the 4 ones that I found):
[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
DE_Bavaria:Modern
0.5219291
(...)
They are closest to my average for Bavaria.
So these people are not at all like East Germans from Elbe-Oder area and from Poland.
Peterski
10-19-2020, 09:06 AM
Also interesting to note that those from urban Brasov live in Romania, while these left for Germany during the communist period.
So the ones who stayed in Romania, most likely have intermarried with Romanians during the last 50 years.
Or how otherwise do you explain that they are so Non-Germanic despite claiming "fully" Saxon ancestry?
I think they must be recently mixed with Romanians/Hungarians.
Ion Basescul
10-19-2020, 09:10 AM
So the ones who stayed in Romania, most likely have intermarried with Romanians during the last 50 years.
Or how otherwise do you explain that they are so Non-Germanic despite claiming "fully" Saxon ancestry?
I think they must be recently mixed with Romanians/Hungarians.
Not in the last 50, because their ancestry is confirmed up to the level of grandparents by the person who manages the kits. But like 3/8 or 4/8 of the greatgrandparents could easily be Romanians assimilated into the German community of the time, judging by the results. I am guessing of course.
someonenotyou
10-20-2020, 02:30 AM
My Dad's Dad is from Brasov.
This is his results.
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.78
2 North_Atlantic 31.49
3 West_Med 16.42
4 West_Asian 6.98
5 East_Med 6.26
6 South_Asian 1.61
7 East_Asian 1.59
8 Siberian 1.5
9 Northeast_African 0.74
10 Red_Sea 0.63
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 5.4
2 East_German 5.87
3 Croatian 6.23
4 Austrian 6.56
5 Moldavian 7.92
6 South_Polish 9.67
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.98
8 Serbian 10.63
9 Ukrainian 10.97
10 Polish 13
11 West_German 14.04
12 Romanian 14.61
13 South_Dutch 14.91
14 North_Swedish 15.48
15 Southwest_Russian 15.66
16 North_German 15.69
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.93
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.96
19 Russian_Smolensk 16.11
20 Estonian_Polish 16.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.44
2 60.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.8% Southwest_French @ 2.53
3 62% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 38% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.57
4 63.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.58
5 71.3% Ukrainian + 28.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.61
6 70.7% Ukrainian + 29.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.61
7 70.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.63
8 72.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.65
9 73.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.69
10 74.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.7
11 71.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.76
12 68.3% Ukrainian + 31.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.79
13 62.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.82
14 67.9% Ukrainian + 32.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.87
15 71.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.6% Southwest_French @ 2.88
16 69.9% Ukrainian + 30.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.89
17 72.5% Ukrainian + 27.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.89
18 69.9% Ukrainian + 30.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.89
19 74.1% South_Polish + 25.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.9
20 69.2% Ukrainian + 30.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.91
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 10:30 PM
Maramures Ukrainians (found by Leto and confirmed by me)
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.01
39.67
14.21
4.90
11.99
0.55
1.83
1.49
0.50
0.10
0.26
0.49
0
29.01
36.80
13.34
6.69
7.83
2.28
0.67
2.02
0.50
0.19
0.57
0.09
0
22.90
42.41
11.88
7.05
9.69
0.80
0
2.96
1.43
0.46
0.39
0
0
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Distance to:
Maramures_Ukrainian_1
3.27830749
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.85936586
Moldova_Ukrainian
7.15964385
Croat_East
7.66453521
Moldova_North
8.19732273
Hungarian_Northern
8.51017039
Croat
8.65996536
Slovak
8.69483180
Ukrainian_Lviv
8.78732610
Croat_North
8.80907487
Bosniak
8.82009070
Ukrainian
9.13668430
Hungarian_Alföld
9.43375323
Croat_South
9.81150345
Slovenian
9.89052071
South_Polish
9.96815931
Croat_West
10.12578392
Hungarian
10.76123599
Serb_north
10.85032258
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
11.02479478
Romania_Moldavia_North
11.15595805
Moldova_Centre
11.27695881
Moldova_average
11.35436040
Czech
11.40359592
Csángó
11.49513810
Sorb_Lusatia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_Ukrainian_2
2.88906559
Slovak
3.84164027
Hungarian_Northern
4.19852355
Croat_North
4.68171977
Slovenian
5.27752783
Hungarian_Alföld
5.35098122
Czech
5.46073255
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
5.64019503
Hungarian
5.66633921
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
6.15623261
Croat_East
6.31967562
Croat
6.41513835
Ukrainian_Lviv
6.67017991
South_Polish
6.97908303
Moldova_Ukrainian
7.50579110
Sorb_Lusatia
7.81987852
Ukrainian
8.08402746
Croat_West
8.29681867
Moldova_North
8.85304467
Croat_South
9.17011450
German_East
9.18933621
Bosniak
9.43711291
Csángó
9.92224773
Hungarian_Transylvania
10.38203256
Székely
10.43904689
Masurian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Maramures_Ukrainian_3
5.26286994
Moldova_Ukrainian
6.67642120
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.92592954
Ukrainian
6.98505548
Ukrainian_Lviv
8.14811021
Russian_Southwest
8.67362669
Ukrainian_Belgorod
9.01510399
South_Polish
9.73021069
Moldova_North
9.92979355
Croat_East
10.18227381
Slovak
10.64223661
Russian_average
10.74169447
Hungarian_Northern
10.83433893
Polish
10.99659038
Russian_Smolensk
11.28723615
Estonian_Polish
11.46035776
Croat_North
11.51115546
Sorb_Lusatia
11.71494345
Croat
11.99902079
Hungarian_Alföld
12.02256628
Bosniak
12.11799901
Masurian
12.27387469
Belorussian
12.47755986
Slovenian
12.53337943
Russian_Kostroma
12.63229987
Czech
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 10:35 PM
Hungarians from Hunedoara and Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.59
31.97
14.07
9.21
8.68
3.20
4.01
0.73
2.20
1.35
0
0
0
30.23
29.10
17.86
4.02
12.29
1.23
1.80
0
2.32
0.75
0.39
0
0
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Hunedoara_Hungarian_1
6.07203426
Moldova_North
6.53016845
Csángó
6.73065376
Bosniak
6.76202632
Croat_East
6.87926595
Croat
6.93265461
Hungarian_Alföld
7.11429547
Croat_South
7.33579580
Moldova_Centre
7.40216185
Romania_Moldavia_North
7.46826620
Hungarian_Transylvania
7.54825808
Hungarian
7.59300336
Moldova_average
7.66361533
Székely
7.78007069
Croat_West
7.85361063
Croat_North
7.90973451
Serb_north
8.02420089
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.55638943
Hungarian_Northern
8.88400810
Serb
8.91720808
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.09047303
Romania_Maramures
9.12751335
Slovenian
9.14242309
Serb_central
9.64924349
Slovak
10.70526973
Romania_Moldavia_South
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_Hungarian_ind
5.29705579
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.68459321
Székely
5.69202073
Csángó
5.95955535
Croat_West
6.39429433
Hungarian
6.52514368
Hungarian_Alföld
6.79080260
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
6.92351789
Croat
7.20749610
Croat_South
7.64202853
Croat_North
7.67203363
Slovenian
8.06628167
Serb_central
8.13544713
Serb_north
8.48660120
Serb
8.48797974
Hungarian_Northern
8.78844127
Bosniak
8.81672275
Croat_East
8.83571729
Romania_Maramures
8.86975761
Romania_Moldavia_North
8.88817192
Romania_Crisana
9.65191173
Austrian
10.05188540
Romania_Moldavia_South
10.07555954
Moldova_Centre
10.19880875
Moldova_average
10.39341619
Romania_Transylvania
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 10:44 PM
From Harghita (Szekler)
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.63
26.52
16.39
9.86
13.71
3.42
1.46
2.29
0
0.66
0
0
0
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Compared to other Szeklers
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.66
34.65
14.98
7.89
11.23
2.69
1.17
0.69
0.99
1.05
0
0
0
28.77
35.47
15.08
5.10
10.22
0.40
0.74
0
1.45
1.44
1.10
0.20
0
29.96
23.72
14.70
9.34
13.97
1.39
1.17
1.69
2.65
0.34
1.07
0
0
27.79
28.45
15.04
8.08
13.96
1.72
0.37
0.19
3.11
0.66
0.55
0
0.09
29.24
31.30
15.21
5.14
14.28
0.98
0
0
3.41
0
0
0.40
0
32.59
25.61
15.45
7.40
12.28
1.58
1.05
0
1.79
1.59
0
0.34
0.29
29.89
29.62
17.73
5.82
12.74
0
1.53
0
1.77
0.66
0
0.06
0.18
30.20
26.11
13.75
9.37
14.35
1.09
0
0
2.12
1.07
0.72
0.92
0.31
22.39
36.74
16.39
4.41
16.51
0
0.05
0.06
1.67
0.81
0.97
0
0
33.41
25.59
16.60
8.55
11.61
0
0
2.29
1.24
0
0.69
0
0
26.89
28.79
16.43
7.98
13.24
1.87
0.56
0
3.47
0.13
0.58
0.06
0
27.20
28.84
11.79
9.29
13.48
3.24
1.46
1.44
0.89
1.57
0.80
0
0
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Harghita_Szekler_ind
3.88180370
Romania_Maramures
4.16834500
Romania_Crisana
4.32019675
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.61857121
Romania_Transylvania
4.74104419
Serb
4.77097474
Serb_central
5.13678888
Csángó
5.15324170
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.17424391
Montenegrin
5.20977927
Romania_average
5.24124985
Székely
5.31196762
Serb_north
5.58970482
Moldova_Centre
5.63134087
Moldova_average
5.72776571
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.73978223
Romania_Oltenia
5.87846068
Romania_Banat
6.13717362
Serb_south
6.35843534
Croat_South
6.41807604
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.68224513
Bosniak
6.79428436
Romania_Wallachia
6.80495408
Moldova_South
6.80863422
Romania_Dobruja
7.01222504
Bulgaria_Northwestern
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Harghita_Szekler_ind
3.88180370
Romania_Maramures
4.16834500
Romania_Crisana
4.32019675
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.61857121
Romania_Transilvania
5.12830381
Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.15324170
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.32424931
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.46923212
Romania_average
5.72776571
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
5.73978223
Romania_Oltenia
5.87846068
Romania_Banat
6.80863422
Romania_Dobrogea
7.33276892
Romania_Muntenia
8.73052690
Bulgarian
10.89637554
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
11.52878571
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
12.70024803
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
13.07215743
Romania_Ukrainian
13.64876185
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.37520687
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.57135698
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.07050824
Crimean_Tatar
28.32836035
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
30.81788117
Romania_Jewish
32.96304598
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Distance: 2.4802% / 2.48018497
Target: Harghita_Szekler_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.0 Romania_Moldova_Csango
27.1 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
1.9 Romania_Roma
<tbody>
Distance to:
Harghita_Szekler_ind
3.74460946
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.87730577
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.33635792
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.34154350
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.56985777
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.99088169
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.02001992
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.03775744
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.52798336
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.75544959
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.88768206
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.01068216
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.22829030
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.27169833
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.39665538
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.52576906
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
9.40767240
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
12.70024803
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 10:53 PM
From Arad
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.78
22.04
16.38
13.14
18.78
2.29
0.33
0.62
0
0.51
0
0.13
0
</tbody>
Compared to others from Arad
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.57
24.00
19.31
7.29
17.40
0.61
0
1.27
0.75
0.26
0.98
0
0.55
23.58
25.51
17.64
8.15
19.75
2.32
0
0
1.91
1.15
0
0
0
26.05
21.87
19.47
12.26
15.09
1.59
1.71
0.30
1.26
0
0.38
0
0
28.66
23.95
15.36
6.58
16.85
3.30
3.16
1.72
0.22
0
0
0
0.19
27.74
25.83
16.89
8.16
19.04
0.77
0
0
0.71
0.86
0
0
0
25.18
22.55
19.19
12.33
15.99
1.52
0.06
0.53
0.1
1.27
0.63
0.65
0
</tbody>
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind
3.94451518
Bulgaria_Northeastern
4.30010465
Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.94700920
Romania_Oltenia
5.01664230
Bosniak_Sandzak
5.09280866
Bulgaria_average
5.13399455
Romania_Wallachia
5.21495925
Montenegrin
5.26933582
Romania_Muntenia
5.47270500
Romania_Dobruja
5.56904839
Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.66086566
Bulgaria_Southcentral
5.70471735
Romania_Transylvania
5.75088689
Romania_Banat
5.75933746
Macednia_north
5.80210307
Romania_average
5.96514040
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
6.16167185
Moldova_South
6.36225589
Bulgaria_Southeastern
6.39819603
Macedonia_south
6.46811410
Romania_Crisana
6.50572825
Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.52833057
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.83907889
Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.91368209
Vlach(Aromanian)_average
7.02272739
Serb_south
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind
4.94700920
Romania_Oltenia
5.15046600
Bulgarian
5.26933582
Romania_Muntenia
5.47270500
Romania_Dobrogea
5.70471735
Romania_Transilvania
5.75088689
Romania_Banat
5.81357893
Romania_average
6.46811410
Romania_Crisana
6.49261119
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
6.52833057
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.87472909
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
8.36165055
Romania_Maramures
10.19590604
Romania_Moldova_Nord
10.63245387
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.92459610
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
11.26640582
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
11.48361006
Romania_Moldova_Csango
14.78806613
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
19.49848456
Romania_Ukrainian
19.90762417
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
24.63931411
Romania_Jewish
25.22896946
Ukrainian_Lviv
26.84316300
Crimean_Tatar
30.87227883
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
31.06484508
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Distance: 3.0296% / 3.02960144
Target: Arad_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.7 Bulgarian
25.3 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
6.6 Romania_Jewish
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
1.6 Romania_Roma
-Bulgarian
Distance: 3.4850% / 3.48503054
Target: Arad_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.9 Romania_Muntenia
23.2 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.9 Romania_Jewish
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_ind
4.54702100
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.12005859
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.61626210
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.72393221
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.96284328
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.05518786
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.42052957
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.42204017
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.51825130
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.52990812
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.04627561
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.74445608
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.99602690
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.16493862
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.31901497
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
11.98530767
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
13.97303117
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
14.78806613
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 11:01 PM
From Timis (1/2 from Alba)
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.71
28.90
14.90
13.53
15.24
1.22
0
0.38
0.72
0
0.39
0
0
</tbody>
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Compared to others from Timis
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.53
23.76
18.21
11.00
19.10
2.17
0
0
1.32
0.37
0.12
0
0.42
18.25
27.74
20.29
11.12
17.52
1.91
0.40
0.90
0.63
1.24
0
0
0
24.06
28.12
17.87
5.65
19.29
1.76
0
1.51
0.37
1.04
0
0.33
0
21.77
24.15
18.41
12.23
18.17
2.49
0.97
0.05
0.85
0.90
0
0
0
23.99
25.36
15.22
15.57
13.99
1.91
1.38
0
2.57
0
0
0
0
21.71
25.42
17.45
9.79
19.16
2.28
1.14
0.44
1.47
0.82
0.33
0
0
20.09
26.81
19.78
11.97
18.06
1.00
1.80
0
0.24
0
0.24
0
0
23.27
26.87
20.21
8.86
16.34
1.91
0
0.52
0
0.92
0.59
0.51
0
20.86
28.67
19.06
9.41
17.83
1.64
0.28
1.50
0.19
0
0.13
0.43
0
20.86
28.54
16.38
13.48
15.02
2.32
0.37
0
2.60
0
0
0
0.42
21.43
24.08
16.80
12.91
20.21
3.76
0.09
0
0.35
0.08
0.29
0
0
21.78
24.90
16.48
11.17
18.52
3.16
0.41
0.89
2.64
0
0.06
0
0
21.95
23.73
16.39
9.97
20.92
3.84
0.54
0.22
0.76
1.21
0.47
0
0
23.81
25.88
18.64
12.16
15.14
1.30
0
1.15
1.33
0
0.59
0
0
24.53
25.10
18.74
10.33
17.26
1.30
0
0.91
1.60
0
0.16
0
0.08
24.75
24.97
16.15
10.82
15.93
3.22
1.56
1.04
1.40
0
0.16
0
0
23.84
24.14
18.67
9.75
18.49
1.05
2.52
0.07
0
0.89
0.54
0
0
15.36
23.25
17.19
12.10
23.07
2.37
3.13
0.92
0.49
1.40
0.73
0
0
29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
</tbody>
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_ind
4.41523499
Moldova_average
4.45139304
Moldova_Centre
4.68798464
Romania_Moldavia_North
4.98002008
Serb
5.03812465
Romania_Maramures
5.17130544
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.22416501
Serb_north
5.40755952
Serb_central
5.57071809
Romania_Transylvania
5.62863216
Romania_average
5.79080305
Romania_Crisana
6.11543130
Bosniak
6.21589897
Romania_Banat
6.35039369
Montenegrin
6.36350532
Serb_south
6.42706776
Romania_Oltenia
6.49274980
Croat_South
6.93423392
Romania_Wallachia
6.97628124
Moldova_South
7.01388623
Romania_Dobruja
7.01692240
Bulgaria_Northwestern
7.02373120
Székely
7.25791981
Romania_Muntenia
7.28331655
Csángó
7.32068303
Bulgaria_Southwestern
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_ind
4.68798464
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.03812465
Romania_Maramures
5.17130544
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.57071809
Romania_Transilvania
5.73623570
Romania_average
5.79080305
Romania_Crisana
6.21589897
Romania_Banat
6.42706776
Romania_Oltenia
7.01388623
Romania_Dobrogea
7.25791981
Romania_Muntenia
7.28549243
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.30408240
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.63400288
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.28841360
Bulgarian
12.35954287
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.37013339
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.01302424
Romania_Ukrainian
13.34901494
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.74956507
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
17.61123789
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
18.07364379
Ukrainian_Lviv
25.88432537
Crimean_Tatar
28.35799182
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
31.62740426
Romania_Jewish
33.98795816
Romania_Roma
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Distance: 3.6703% / 3.67029106
Target: Timis_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.1 Bulgarian
29.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.9 Crimean_Tatar
-Bulgarian
Distance: 4.1121% / 4.11213912
Target: Timis_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord
15.3 Romania_Oltenia
12.0 Romania_Muntenia
2.4 Crimean_Tatar
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_ind
4.77786563
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.07708578
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.65225619
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.70280633
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.78130608
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.89407329
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.90917084
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.11941991
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.17733761
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.60774546
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.73435223
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.24325203
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.33715885
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.49601227
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.71220461
Romania_Crisana_Arad
8.79928974
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.99378006
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
15.74956507
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 11:08 PM
From Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.93
23.05
17.28
7.96
17.17
2.06
1.53
1.46
0.13
0
0.40
0
0
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
16.92
24.96
20.30
12.53
20.37
0
0
2.56
2.11
0
0.25
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
27.61
28.23
15.91
5.44
16.08
3.81
0
1.54
0.99
0.39
0
0
0
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
5.31164758
Romania_Crisana
5.83154353
Montenegrin
6.12381417
Romania_Transylvania
6.26305038
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.59757531
Romania_Oltenia
6.65803274
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.02393764
Romania_average
7.40590980
Romania_Maramures
7.40718570
Serb_south
7.45212721
Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.46566809
Romania_Banat
7.71175726
Székely
7.74344239
Serb_central
7.79313801
Romania_Wallachia
7.97646538
Romania_Dobruja
8.09503552
Hungarian_Transylvania
8.17603816
Serb
8.20044511
IT_Friuli-VG
8.28091782
Bulgaria_Northwestern
8.30727392
Romania_Muntenia
8.48376685
Moldova_South
8.56158280
Csángó
8.61422080
Bulgaria_average
8.70380997
Macednia_north
9.02986157
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
5.31164758
Romania_Crisana
6.12381417
Romania_Transilvania
6.59757531
Romania_Oltenia
6.65803274
Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.20616403
Romania_average
7.40590980
Romania_Maramures
7.46566809
Romania_Banat
7.53257944
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.97646538
Romania_Dobrogea
8.09503552
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.30727392
Romania_Muntenia
8.54509216
Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.97993318
Bulgarian
9.36687781
Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.80065814
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
9.89972727
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
10.42071974
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
13.82780894
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
16.89985207
Romania_Ukrainian
17.39045140
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
23.01660705
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.41745247
Romania_Jewish
28.94952331
Crimean_Tatar
31.65881078
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
33.14930316
Romania_Roma
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Distance: 1.6888% / 1.68880274
Target: Cluj_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.6 Romania_Crisana
37.4 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
12.0 Romania_Jewish
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
3.52759125
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.27843727
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.31382160
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.41652102
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.72053319
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.23466118
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.48269234
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.61269234
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.71497580
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.78617713
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.33956402
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.67291991
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.92798840
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.05812633
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.89972727
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
10.29058793
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.81123952
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
10.95454700
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 11:13 PM
From Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
21.75
26.50
19.81
11.69
15.46
1.12
0
0
3.00
0
0.67
0
0
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Compared to others from Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
16.92
24.96
20.30
12.53
20.37
0
0
2.56
2.11
0
0.25
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
27.61
28.23
15.91
5.44
16.08
3.81
0
1.54
0.99
0.39
0
0
0
28.93
23.05
17.28
7.96
17.17
2.06
1.53
1.46
0.13
0
0.40
0
0
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
4.16493697
Romania_Banat
4.33882473
Moldova_South
4.42642068
Romania_average
4.71909949
Romania_Oltenia
4.77309124
Romania_Transylvania
4.77634798
Romania_Dobruja
4.91252481
Romania_Wallachia
4.93306193
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.99471721
Montenegrin
5.08268630
Bosniak_Sandzak
5.16061043
Romania_Muntenia
5.28266031
Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.30038678
Serb_south
5.31720791
Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.56392847
Romania_Crisana
5.75478931
Romania_Maramures
5.76509323
Bulgaria_average
5.98996661
Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.10010656
Serb
6.45507552
Bulgaria_Southcentral
6.45595074
Pomak_Bulgaria
6.53032924
Serb_central
6.56082312
Moldova_average
6.98295067
Moldova_Centre
7.10768598
Bulgaria_Northeastern
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
4.16493697
Romania_Banat
4.49605383
Romania_average
4.71909949
Romania_Oltenia
4.77309124
Romania_Transilvania
4.77634798
Romania_Dobrogea
4.93306193
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.16061043
Romania_Muntenia
5.56392847
Romania_Crisana
5.75478931
Romania_Maramures
6.27169036
Bulgarian
7.50269951
Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.20168463
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
9.43900948
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.55577561
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.95229119
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.10300450
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
14.11193821
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
16.09813964
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.16361036
Romania_Ukrainian
17.13871932
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
21.41327392
Ukrainian_Lviv
25.06223853
Crimean_Tatar
27.31772318
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
29.10874783
Romania_Jewish
32.53163998
Romania_Roma
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Distance: 3.7992% / 3.79918030
Target: Cluj_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
92.0 Romania_Banat
5.0 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
3.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
-Banat
Distance: 4.0122% / 4.01221249
Target: Cluj_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.0 Romania_Oltenia
18.7 Romania_Dobrogea
6.3 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
5.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
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Distance to:
Cluj_ind
4.07590481
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.22904244
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.34223445
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.63317386
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.88769885
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.95235298
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.05291005
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.21656017
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.73841442
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.93314419
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.38167690
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.40420955
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.00351340
Romania_Crisana_Arad
7.73406749
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.83746410
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.52791052
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.51103818
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
17.13871932
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 11:19 PM
From Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
18.53
29.42
18.91
15.82
14.25
0
0
0
2.27
0
0.81
0
0
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Compared to others from Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
16.92
24.96
20.30
12.53
20.37
0
0
2.56
2.11
0
0.25
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
27.61
28.23
15.91
5.44
16.08
3.81
0
1.54
0.99
0.39
0
0
0
28.93
23.05
17.28
7.96
17.17
2.06
1.53
1.46
0.13
0
0.40
0
0
21.75
26.50
19.81
11.69
15.46
1.12
0
0
3.00
0
0.67
0
0
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High distances because of elevated West Asian
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
8.46969303
Moldova_average
8.63624340
Moldova_South
8.83826906
Pomak_Bulgaria
8.84817495
Romania_Banat
8.88601711
Moldova_Centre
9.05177883
Romania_average
9.13783344
Romania_Dobruja
9.22092186
Romania_Muntenia
9.23307100
Romania_Wallachia
9.40213805
Bulgaria_Northwestern
9.46731218
Bulgaria_Northcentral
9.49934735
Romania_Moldavia_South
9.51397393
Pomak_Greece
9.52434775
Romania_Oltenia
9.61304322
Serb
9.67044466
Romania_Transylvania
9.67259531
Romania_Maramures
9.67321043
Bulgaria_average
9.76220262
Bulgaria_Southwestern
9.79949999
Serb_south
9.86109020
Moldova_South_Gagauzia
10.02394134
Romania_Moldavia_North
10.12361102
Serb_north
10.15688436
Bulgaria_Southcentral
10.17600609
Montenegrin
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
8.84817495
Romania_Banat
9.02878729
Romania_average
9.13783344
Romania_Dobrogea
9.22092186
Romania_Muntenia
9.49934735
Romania_Moldova_Sud
9.52434775
Romania_Oltenia
9.67044466
Romania_Transilvania
9.67259531
Romania_Maramures
9.89121833
Bulgarian
10.02394134
Romania_Moldova_Nord
10.49272129
Romania_Crisana
12.83737512
Romania_Moldova_Csango
13.36973708
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
13.41460771
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
13.70271506
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.84666025
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
16.92475701
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.06218040
Romania_Ukrainian
18.04045177
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
21.05319453
Ukrainian_Lviv
21.78921293
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
24.39803886
Crimean_Tatar
26.83841463
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
32.33247129
Romania_Jewish
32.93516510
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Distance: 7.5338% / 7.53375367
Target: Cluj_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
67.8 Bulgarian
20.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
11.6 Crimean_Tatar
-Bulgarian
Distance: 7.7633% / 7.76333752
Target: Cluj_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.8 Romania_Muntenia
17.1 Ukrainian_Lviv
10.1 Crimean_Tatar
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
8.73993707
Romania_Banat_Timis
9.27502561
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
9.32636049
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
9.46819941
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.62086794
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
9.66472452
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.70099995
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.76233579
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.99798480
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
10.28364235
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
10.63767362
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
10.89813287
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
11.51744329
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
12.30189823
Romania_Crisana_Arad
13.28788170
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
13.50867869
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
14.09719476
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
21.78921293
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Distance to individuals from Transylvania
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_ind
4.83674477
Romania_Transylvania_57_Sibiu
5.01332225
Romania_Banat_10_Timis
5.95065543
Romania_Transylvania_14_Cluj
6.32713995
Romania_Transylvania_29_Cluj
6.38282853
Romania_Maramures_2_Maramures
6.86217895
Romania_Banat_2_Timis
6.93015151
Romania_Banat_7_Timis
7.06580498
Romania_Transylvania_6_Cluj
7.17386228
Romania_Transylvania_50_Alba
7.38637259
Romania_Transylvania_51_Sibiu
7.40161469
Romania_Transylvania_16_Cluj
7.64022251
Romania_Transylvania_31_Mures
7.65604990
Romania_Banat_14_Timis
7.77342910
Romania_Transylvania_13_Cluj
7.90139228
Romania_Transylvania_21_Cluj
8.06094287
Romania_Banat_21_Timis
8.14493708
Romania_Banat_5_Timis
8.23264842
Romania_Transylvania_23_Cluj
8.23264842
Romania_Transylvania_67_Brasov
8.36122599
Romania_Banat_9_Timis
8.46294866
Romania_Crisana_6_Salaj
8.46895507
Romania_Transylvania_17_Cluj
8.75471873
Romania_Crisana_1_Bihor
8.76527239
Romania_Transylvania_74_Hunedoara
8.77074683
Romania_Transylvania_76_Hunedoara
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
12-22-2020, 11:29 PM
From Mures
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.08
23.63
18.50
8.13
14.24
0.79
1.27
0.88
1.70
0.67
0.91
1.19
0
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Compared to others from Mures
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.25
30.41
14.82
9.94
16.08
1.64
0
0.47
0.99
0.65
0.73
0
0
21.44
28.59
16.86
10.54
16.15
3.25
0.87
0
1.41
0.90
0
0
0
26.34
22.26
19.68
10.29
14.43
2.80
2.11
0
1.52
0.30
0.28
0
0
25.50
23.15
17.63
10.05
17.66
2.79
0.10
0.55
2.01
0.27
0.30
0
0
25.25
24.30
18.85
9.80
14.83
2.78
2.41
0
0.18
0.68
0.58
0.34
0
24.49
30.54
13.40
9.93
16.80
2.35
0
0.31
1.77
0
0.41
0
0
25.07
23.78
16.99
11.66
16.06
2.05
1.78
0
0.85
0.87
0.65
0.05
0.19
</tbody>
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
4.83290803
Romania_Crisana
5.99695756
Romania_Transylvania
6.00520607
Montenegrin
6.26758327
Székely
6.41424976
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.55450990
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.56163089
Hungarian_Transylvania
6.82665365
Romania_Oltenia
6.82671956
Romania_Maramures
6.98000716
Romania_average
7.08612024
Csángó
7.09305999
Serb_central
7.33922339
Serb
7.46171562
Romania_Banat
7.71310573
Serb_south
8.00126240
Bulgaria_Southwestern
8.15479000
Romania_Wallachia
8.23280633
Serb_north
8.28882380
Romania_Dobruja
8.55764570
Moldova_South
8.59311352
Romania_Moldavia_North
8.72528510
Romania_Muntenia
8.76721164
Bulgaria_Northwestern
8.93242968
Croat_West
9.02941859
Croat_South
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
4.83290803
Romania_Crisana
5.99695756
Romania_Transilvania
6.02557998
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.41424976
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.56163089
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.82665365
Romania_Oltenia
6.82671956
Romania_Maramures
7.05607540
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.24277571
Romania_average
7.46171562
Romania_Banat
8.28882380
Romania_Dobrogea
8.59311352
Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.72528510
Romania_Muntenia
9.65511264
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.76475294
Bulgarian
10.83413587
Aromanian_North-Macedonia
11.98206159
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
15.31433642
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
15.91334032
Romania_Ukrainian
16.21977805
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
21.43077227
Ukrainian_Lviv
27.60122280
Crimean_Tatar
29.64596937
Romania_Jewish
29.83076432
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
33.46760971
Romania_Roma
</tbody>
Distance: 2.1703% / 2.17026658
Target: Mures_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.9 Romania_Crisana
37.9 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
10.0 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
5.4 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
1.8 Romania_Roma
-Saxon, Aromanian
Distance: 4.1607% / 4.16070040
Target: Mures_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.6 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
28.9 Romania_Crisana
8.5 Romania_Jewish
-Hungarian
Distance: 4.8329% / 4.83290803
Target: Mures_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
100.0 Romania_Crisana
<tbody>
Distance to:
Mures_ind
3.38439064
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.56435099
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.47517123
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.49777228
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.71404410
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.83717397
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.87694649
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.30435564
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.68198324
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.72488662
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.78392217
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.22754453
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.51865679
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.71802436
Romania_Banat_Timis
9.20325486
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.35538882
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
9.65511264
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
10.65239879
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
Lucas
12-27-2020, 09:31 AM
Can you post Siebenburgen Saxons?
Ion Basescul
12-27-2020, 02:02 PM
Can you post Siebenburgen Saxons?
I have six samples.
This is the average (doesn't count one outlier):
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
36.95
23.28
17.66
6.80
11.73
1.51
0.70
0.42
0.11
0.61
0.10
0.01
0.11
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And these are individual results:
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.80
23.90
16.40
11.34
15.81
1.81
0.97
0.44
0
0.32
0.14
0.08
0
30.10
26.02
16.78
7.59
14.70
2.70
0
0.83
0
0.89
0
0
0.37
42.38
19.00
19.51
5.95
10.16
0.78
0.72
0
0
1.08
0.43
0
0
41.95
21.58
18.39
4.69
10.93
1.08
0.66
0
0
0.69
0
0
0
39.60
25.27
16.14
6.41
8.05
1.75
0.84
0.85
0.67
0.09
0
0
0.29
38.88
23.90
18.71
4.80
10.71
0.95
1.02
0.40
0
0.61
0
0
0
</tbody>
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vbnetkhio
02-08-2021, 05:13 PM
Bistrita-Nasaud
Population
North_Atlantic 25.43 Pct
Baltic 22.43 Pct
West_Med 16.63 Pct
West_Asian 4.32 Pct
East_Med 20.89 Pct
Red_Sea 4.34 Pct
South_Asian 1.17 Pct
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Siberian 1.06 Pct
Amerindian 1.66 Pct
Oceanian 0.4 Pct
Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Population
North_Atlantic 24.96 Pct
Baltic 26.34 Pct
West_Med 15.6 Pct
West_Asian 10.6 Pct
East_Med 17.46 Pct
Red_Sea 1.62 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.57 Pct
Amerindian 0.84 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Ion Basescul
02-08-2021, 07:26 PM
Bistrita-Nasaud
Population
North_Atlantic 25.43 Pct
Baltic 22.43 Pct
West_Med 16.63 Pct
West_Asian 4.32 Pct
East_Med 20.89 Pct
Red_Sea 4.34 Pct
South_Asian 1.17 Pct
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Siberian 1.06 Pct
Amerindian 1.66 Pct
Oceanian 0.4 Pct
Northeast_African 0.19 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Population
North_Atlantic 24.96 Pct
Baltic 26.34 Pct
West_Med 15.6 Pct
West_Asian 10.6 Pct
East_Med 17.46 Pct
Red_Sea 1.62 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.57 Pct
Amerindian 0.84 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
First one seems mixed with Jews, but that's just a guess of mine. Need to look closer. Can you rep/PM me the kit numbers please?
Ion Basescul
02-24-2021, 08:44 PM
From Cluj
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Cluj_in_Romania.svg/250px-Cluj_in_Romania.svg.png
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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
1
22.48
31.89
18.08
8.29
13.14
2.31
0
0
1.92
1.08
0
0.78
0
2
24.35
27.57
16.44
11.49
17.99
0.19
0
1.30
0
0.53
0.12
0
0
3
24.13
26.16
16.72
12.00
17.62
1.12
0.93
0.69
0.24
0
0.38
0
0
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Compared to others from Cluj
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
27.61
28.23
15.91
5.44
16.08
3.81
0
1.54
0.99
0.39
0
0
0
28.93
23.05
17.28
7.96
17.17
2.06
1.53
1.46
0.13
0
0.40
0
0
21.75
26.50
19.81
11.69
15.46
1.12
0
0
3.00
0
0.67
0
0
18.53
29.42
18.91
15.82
14.25
0
0
0
2.27
0
0.81
0
0
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
3.83066574
Moldova_average
4.06610379
Moldova_Centre
4.17100707
Serb_north
4.27140492
Bosniak
4.59140501
Serb
4.75590160
Romania_Moldavia_North
4.87684324
Croat_South
4.91202606
Moldova_North
4.97028168
Serb_central
5.34500702
Romania_Maramures
6.71057375
Croat_East
6.91387735
Croat
6.94224027
Csángó-Ceangău
7.02569570
Moldova_South
7.08067087
Croat_West
7.40328306
Serb_south
7.44949663
Székely
7.48241939
Romania_Crisana
7.52029255
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.71589917
Romania_Transylvania
7.80259572
Romania_average
7.97628986
Hungarian_Transylvania
8.27255704
Romania_Banat
8.42372246
Hungarian_Alföld
8.42854080
Montenegrin
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
3.83066574
Moldova_average
4.06610379
Moldova_Centru
4.75590160
Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.91202606
Moldova_Nord
5.19080919
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
5.34500702
Romania_Maramures
6.94224027
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.02569570
Moldova_Sud
7.44949663
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.48241939
Romania_Crisana
7.52029255
Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.71589917
Romania_Transilvania
7.80259572
Romania_average
7.97628986
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.27255704
Romania_Banat
8.92876251
Romania_Oltenia
9.35655920
Romania_Dobrogea
9.48443989
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.71343914
Ukrainian_Carpathian
9.75465017
Romania_Ukrainian
9.87463417
Romania_Muntenia
11.27964538
Bulgarian
13.37790342
Moldova_Gagauzia
15.54457140
Aromanian
17.12647074
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
3.28993921
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.12533901
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.00242101
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.14134441
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
7.15525681
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
7.18481733
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.23749266
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
7.53705513
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
7.60287446
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.62516229
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.66336741
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
8.09911724
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
8.13467885
Romania_Banat_Timis
8.16548223
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
8.24338523
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.86337972
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
10.07168308
Romania_Crisana_Arad
13.49079686
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
17.12647074
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
2
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
3.31279338
Romania_average
3.35961307
Romania_Transylvania
3.37823919
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.55214020
Serb_south
3.72439257
Romania_Oltenia
3.78257849
Romania_Crisana
3.87245400
Romania_Banat
4.01286681
Moldova_South
4.04724598
Montenegrin
4.15849732
Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.17403881
Romania_Maramures
4.36594778
Romania_Wallachia
4.45473905
Serb
4.51553983
Romania_Dobruja
4.54650415
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.57779423
Serb_central
4.75929617
Romania_Muntenia
4.82278965
Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.39042670
Bulgaria_average
5.40478492
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.54302264
Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.56979353
Serb_north
6.09062394
Pomak_Bulgaria
6.09078813
Moldova_average
6.29472795
Bulgaria_Southcentral
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
3.31279338
Romania_average
3.35961307
Romania_Transilvania
3.37823919
Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.72439257
Romania_Oltenia
3.78257849
Romania_Crisana
3.87245400
Romania_Banat
4.01286681
Moldova_Sud
4.17403881
Romania_Maramures
4.51553983
Romania_Dobrogea
4.75929617
Romania_Muntenia
5.40478492
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.47546345
Bulgarian
6.09078813
Moldova_average
6.33246398
Moldova_Centru
7.18562454
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
7.75641025
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.19405882
Moldova_Gagauzia
8.64493493
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.94825123
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.54668005
Moldova_Nord
9.96158622
Aromanian
14.41697957
Romania_Ukrainian
14.69990816
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.75172532
Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.58441850
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
2.74515938
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.39493741
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.41045452
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.46469335
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.83185334
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.91090782
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.92700904
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.12618468
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.41208567
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.50248820
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.62783967
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
4.72592848
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.17664950
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.83494644
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.94834431
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.06377703
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.19032384
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.23896479
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
15.58441850
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
3
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_3
2.29392676
Romania_average
2.38679702
Romania_Oltenia
2.47028338
Romania_Transylvania
2.52126952
Romania_Moldavia_South
2.64847126
Romania_Banat
3.01683609
Montenegrin
3.03146829
Romania_Wallachia
3.26879183
Romania_Dobruja
3.29836323
Bulgaria_Southwestern
3.40073521
Moldova_South
3.42899402
Serb_south
3.43691722
Romania_Crisana
3.47050429
Romania_Muntenia
3.49193356
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.57583557
Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.08548651
Bulgaria_average
4.27617820
Romania_Maramures
4.34575655
Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.01842605
Serb
5.09186606
Bulgaria_Southcentral
5.17034815
Serb_central
5.17407963
Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.36087679
Pomak_Bulgaria
5.91450759
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.32008702
Serb_north
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_3
2.29392676
Romania_average
2.38679702
Romania_Oltenia
2.47028338
Romania_Transilvania
2.52126952
Romania_Moldova_Sud
2.64847126
Romania_Banat
3.26879183
Romania_Dobrogea
3.40073521
Moldova_Sud
3.43691722
Romania_Crisana
3.47050429
Romania_Muntenia
4.27617820
Romania_Maramures
4.42022624
Bulgarian
5.91450759
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.72966567
Moldova_average
6.91690682
Moldova_Centru
6.91916903
Moldova_Gagauzia
7.99061324
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
8.04078354
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.77354546
Aromanian
8.82801223
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.18961914
Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.40765103
Moldova_Nord
15.36294243
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.49186883
Romania_Ukrainian
15.74635513
Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.78782442
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_3
2.18508581
Romania_Banat_Timis
2.67162872
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
2.70242484
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
2.72827785
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
2.75639257
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
2.97326420
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.29783262
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.31514706
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.37472962
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.22638143
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.29809260
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.85961933
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.87337665
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
5.59132364
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.48890592
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.52115016
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.61727335
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.76969359
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
15.36294243
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
02-24-2021, 09:00 PM
From Cluj
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Kit
N_Atlantic
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West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
H353037
22.71
24.42
19.12
7.83
22.13
1.85
0
0
1.07
0
0.87
0
0
A338866
24.31
31.78
19.90
2.80
16.34
2.53
0.19
0
1.20
0.80
0.15
0
0
EM2016534
25.74
24.86
18.67
7.73
15.04
4.06
0
0.78
1.93
0.99
0
0
0.19
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
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25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
27.61
28.23
15.91
5.44
16.08
3.81
0
1.54
0.99
0.39
0
0
0
28.93
23.05
17.28
7.96
17.17
2.06
1.53
1.46
0.13
0
0.40
0
0
21.75
26.50
19.81
11.69
15.46
1.12
0
0
3.00
0
0.67
0
0
18.53
29.42
18.91
15.82
14.25
0
0
0
2.27
0
0.81
0
0
22.48
31.89
18.08
8.29
13.14
2.31
0
0
1.92
1.08
0
0.78
0
24.35
27.57
16.44
11.49
17.99
0.19
0
1.30
0
0.53
0.12
0
0
24.13
26.16
16.72
12.00
17.62
1.12
0.93
0.69
0.24
0
0.38
0
0
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
3.99733661
Macedonian_North
4.38341191
Macedonian_average
4.70258440
Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.80099990
Bulgaria_Southcentral
5.03508689
Bulgaria_average
5.03953371
Macedonian_South
5.07309570
Bosniak_Sandzak
5.23013384
Serb_south
5.26457026
Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.27214378
Romania_Muntenia
5.29187112
Romania_Wallachia
5.29530924
Romania_Dobruja
5.31572196
Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.57192067
Romania_Oltenia
5.72898769
Romania_Banat
5.89462467
Montenegrin
6.07237186
Pomak_Bulgaria
6.08899006
Romania_average
6.08917072
Vlach(Aromanian)_average
6.26703279
Moldova_South
6.40153107
Romania_Transylvania
6.47183900
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.51300238
Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.66738329
Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.88755399
Bulgaria_Northeastern
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
4.94753474
Bulgarian
5.27214378
Romania_Muntenia
5.29530924
Romania_Dobrogea
5.57192067
Romania_Oltenia
5.72898769
Romania_Banat
6.08899006
Romania_average
6.08917072
Aromanian
6.26703279
Moldova_Sud
6.40153107
Romania_Transilvania
6.47183900
Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.25847091
Moldova_Gagauzia
7.26678058
Romania_Crisana
8.34693956
Romania_Maramures
10.53977704
Romania_Moldova_Nord
11.07874090
Moldova_average
11.36948108
Moldova_Centru
12.23992239
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
12.26539033
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
13.09148960
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.89604260
Romania_Moldova_Csango
14.91685289
Moldova_Nord
17.83565250
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
19.01835166
Romania_Ukrainian
19.07553145
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
19.78906264
Ukrainian_Carpathian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
5.15874016
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.37553718
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.72769587
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.92811100
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.21751558
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.36369390
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.39994531
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
6.55101519
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.78361261
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.80486591
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.18085649
Romania_Crisana_Arad
7.66570936
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.02838856
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.52186956
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
10.83482349
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
11.08126798
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
12.36039239
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
15.05101325
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
17.83565250
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
2
Weird distances due to very little West Asian
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
7.17379955
Serb_central
7.51539087
Serb
7.51827108
Serb_north
7.78337330
Croat_South
7.97665343
Romania_Maramures
8.13051044
Bosniak
8.50588620
Romania_Moldavia_North
8.50687369
Moldova_average
8.63035341
Croat_West
8.67816225
Serb_south
8.71721859
Moldova_Centre
9.13116093
Romania_Crisana
9.22081341
Croat
9.57492037
Moldova_South
9.63319781
Székely
9.66817977
Romania_Moldavia_South
9.74553744
Croat_East
9.75189212
Romania_Transylvania
10.01964071
Montenegrin
10.05788745
Moldova_North
10.07717222
Romania_average
10.09958910
Hungarian_Transylvania
10.19376770
Bulgaria_Northwestern
10.35813690
Csángó-Ceangău
10.46001912
Hungarian_Alföld
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
7.97665343
Romania_Maramures
8.50588620
Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.50687369
Moldova_average
8.55524401
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
8.71721859
Moldova_Centru
9.13116093
Romania_Crisana
9.57492037
Moldova_Sud
9.63319781
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.66817977
Romania_Moldova_Sud
9.75189212
Romania_Transilvania
10.05788745
Moldova_Nord
10.07717222
Romania_average
10.09958910
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
10.35813690
Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.49154421
Romania_Banat
10.80035648
Romania_Oltenia
10.97294400
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
11.32395249
Romania_Ukrainian
11.40450350
Romania_Dobrogea
11.93173500
Romania_Muntenia
12.37455454
Ukrainian_Carpathian
12.99064664
Bulgarian
15.67480143
Moldova_Gagauzia
16.18746429
Aromanian
16.64347019
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
7.86432451
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.36171035
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
8.59367209
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.84355698
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.25966522
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.27309010
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
9.32090661
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
9.37260903
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
9.45104756
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.45179877
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
9.59511334
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
9.81978615
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
9.88460925
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.94306794
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
10.62592584
Romania_Banat_Timis
10.78050092
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
11.09991441
Romania_Crisana_Arad
15.55889135
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
16.64347019
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
3
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_3
4.24518551
Romania_Crisana
4.27533624
Montenegrin
4.56446054
Romania_Transylvania
4.68384457
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.22155149
Bosniak_Sandzak
5.24578879
Romania_Maramures
5.29251358
Romania_average
5.46673577
Romania_Oltenia
5.66123661
Romania_Banat
5.70860754
Serb_south
5.75232996
Serb_central
5.96856767
Serb
6.11283895
Moldova_South
6.45338671
Romania_Dobruja
6.49079348
Romania_Wallachia
6.49801508
Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.61635852
Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.72395717
Székely
6.78958025
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.99605603
Romania_Muntenia
7.07448231
Serb_north
7.24122918
Hungarian_Transylvania
7.55740696
Bulgaria_average
7.82469808
Csángó-Ceangău
8.18189465
Bulgaria_Northcentral
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_3
4.24518551
Romania_Crisana
4.56446054
Romania_Transilvania
4.68384457
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.24578879
Romania_Maramures
5.29251358
Romania_average
5.46673577
Romania_Oltenia
5.66123661
Romania_Banat
6.11283895
Moldova_Sud
6.45338671
Romania_Dobrogea
6.72395717
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.78958025
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.99605603
Romania_Muntenia
7.24122918
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.82469808
Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.18293346
Moldova_average
8.21923354
Bulgarian
8.30875442
Moldova_Centru
8.60081973
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.66102716
Moldova_Gagauzia
10.86074123
Aromanian
11.32998676
Moldova_Nord
12.31247335
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.21340199
Romania_Ukrainian
15.43999352
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.61160146
Ukrainian_Carpathian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_3
3.61970993
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
3.89271114
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.30394006
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.33860577
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.46152440
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.53657360
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.66009657
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.67032119
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.89235117
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.43124295
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.65328223
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.07417484
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.17615576
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.02074070
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.14112736
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.97966165
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
9.44128699
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.60880766
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
12.31247335
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
02-24-2021, 09:06 PM
From Cluj
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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
1
26.75
25.54
17.98
8.75
16.54
1.83
0
0.22
0.93
0.96
0.48
0
0
2
28.95
23.38
16.35
9.31
17.97
0
0
0.27
1.93
0.84
1.01
0
0
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
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NE_African
Sub-Saharan
25.27
29.88
15.47
6.15
19.23
0.87
0.64
0.74
0.69
0.59
0
0.47
0
26.32
28.27
14.76
6.07
20.62
1.34
1.12
0
0.79
0
0.05
0
0.67
20.78
29.81
17.69
9.93
16.36
1.09
0.08
1.55
1.64
0.29
0.79
0
0
25.12
28.04
17.72
9.07
13.24
2.87
0.74
1.01
2.00
0.19
0
0
0
27.29
20.87
15.80
10.06
18.91
3.56
0.61
0.53
0.61
0.68
1.09
0
0
22.26
27.61
17.03
8.79
19.61
0
0.93
0
2.31
0.54
0.74
0
0.18
24.11
23.90
18.08
11.10
17.10
2.41
0.10
0
1.63
0.52
1.06
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
20.35
25.48
18.73
11.63
16.45
3.22
0.75
1.37
0
0.65
0.54
0
0.84
21.45
27.57
19.48
11.83
13.43
2.19
0.66
0
2.46
0.78
0
0.09
0.06
24.75
23.75
17.97
10.90
16.33
2.79
0
1.11
1.34
1.06
0
0
0
19.95
25.72
17.82
13.17
17.72
3.54
0.29
0
0
1.02
0.70
0.07
0
23.88
24.84
17.74
12.80
17.02
1.26
0.14
0.39
0.97
0.58
0.39
0
0
24.63
24.80
18.08
12.42
15.71
3.08
0.61
0
0
0
0.34
0
0.33
26.75
25.60
15.85
10.57
16.17
2.01
0
0.73
0
1.78
0.55
0
0
25.44
25.27
14.97
10.18
13.86
2.26
3.61
0.23
2.36
0
0.88
0
0.94
22.71
27.80
19.86
9.86
14.53
0.62
1.41
0.54
1.04
1.13
0.23
0.10
0.18
21.19
26.77
18.68
9.15
19.15
1.02
1.97
0.50
0.18
1.25
0.14
0
0
22.89
26.17
17.33
11.96
16.97
2.49
0
0.71
0
1.15
0.33
0
0
23.79
26.53
15.09
11.23
18.32
2.42
0.97
0
0.57
0.60
0.45
0
0
22.32
25.69
18.71
9.56
18.03
2.19
0
0
3.20
0
0.29
0
0
25.83
26.01
17.52
7.95
19.36
0.68
0
2.21
0.15
0.24
0
0
0
27.61
28.23
15.91
5.44
16.08
3.81
0
1.54
0.99
0.39
0
0
0
28.93
23.05
17.28
7.96
17.17
2.06
1.53
1.46
0.13
0
0.40
0
0
21.75
26.50
19.81
11.69
15.46
1.12
0
0
3.00
0
0.67
0
0
18.53
29.42
18.91
15.82
14.25
0
0
0
2.27
0
0.81
0
0
22.48
31.89
18.08
8.29
13.14
2.31
0
0
1.92
1.08
0
0.78
0
24.35
27.57
16.44
11.49
17.99
0.19
0
1.30
0
0.53
0.12
0
0
24.13
26.16
16.72
12.00
17.62
1.12
0.93
0.69
0.24
0
0.38
0
0
22.71
24.42
19.12
7.83
22.13
1.85
0
0
1.07
0
0.87
0
0
24.31
31.78
19.90
2.80
16.34
2.53
0.19
0
1.20
0.80
0.15
0
0
25.74
24.86
18.67
7.73
15.04
4.06
0
0.78
1.93
0.99
0
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0.19
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
2.02960587
Romania_Crisana
2.84130252
Montenegrin
3.04052627
Romania_Transylvania
3.33953590
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.84378719
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.13018159
Romania_average
4.18029903
Romania_Oltenia
4.24754046
Romania_Maramures
4.32415310
Serb_south
4.40306711
Serb_central
4.73274762
Serb
4.75477655
Romania_Banat
5.42327392
Moldova_South
5.51511559
Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.54322109
Romania_Wallachia
5.63786307
Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.69806107
Romania_Dobruja
5.90419343
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.96614616
Székely
5.97984950
Serb_north
6.12618152
Romania_Muntenia
6.59921965
Hungarian_Transylvania
6.68878913
Bulgaria_average
7.28883393
Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.31704175
Croat_South
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
2.02960587
Romania_Crisana
3.04052627
Romania_Transilvania
3.33953590
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.13018159
Romania_average
4.18029903
Romania_Oltenia
4.24754046
Romania_Maramures
4.75477655
Romania_Banat
5.42327392
Moldova_Sud
5.69806107
Romania_Dobrogea
5.90419343
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.96614616
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.12618152
Romania_Muntenia
6.59921965
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.11045006
Bulgarian
7.53011952
Moldova_average
7.60970433
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.65100647
Moldova_Centru
7.69562213
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.03818709
Moldova_Gagauzia
10.31474672
Aromanian
10.85909296
Moldova_Nord
11.73765309
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
14.78914129
Romania_Ukrainian
15.01061291
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.19536113
Ukrainian_Carpathian
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_1
2.12186239
Romania_Crisana_Arad
2.36266798
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
2.49455407
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
2.78217541
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.10741050
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.21819825
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.31707703
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.59345238
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.83794216
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
3.85992228
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.33819087
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.56036183
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.01533648
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.19941126
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.39718688
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.09685141
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
9.00888450
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.40853976
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.73765309
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
2
<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
5.38269449
Romania_Crisana
5.91275739
Montenegrin
6.02019103
Romania_Transylvania
6.28163991
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.29709457
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.56440401
Romania_Oltenia
6.86823849
Romania_average
7.24338319
Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.29579331
Serb_south
7.35241457
Romania_Banat
7.58324469
Romania_Wallachia
7.62411962
Székely
7.72226003
Romania_Maramures
7.81283559
Romania_Dobruja
7.83384325
Serb_central
8.01970074
Romania_Muntenia
8.15774479
Hungarian_Transylvania
8.16207082
Bulgaria_Northwestern
8.17815383
Serb
8.35613547
Bulgaria_average
8.40367777
Moldova_South
8.69229544
Macedonian_North
8.76131269
Romania_Moldavia_North
8.79598204
Bulgaria_Northeastern
8.85897285
Bulgaria_Northcentral
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
5.38269449
Romania_Crisana
6.02019103
Romania_Transilvania
6.29709457
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.56440401
Romania_Oltenia
6.86823849
Romania_average
7.35241457
Romania_Banat
7.62411962
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.72226003
Romania_Maramures
7.81283559
Romania_Dobrogea
8.01970074
Romania_Muntenia
8.15774479
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.40367777
Moldova_Sud
8.52737943
Bulgarian
8.76131269
Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.61834185
Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.16100881
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.52560687
Moldova_Centru
10.52601539
Moldova_average
10.73857067
Aromanian
10.86103126
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
11.10939692
Moldova_Gagauzia
13.64148086
Moldova_Nord
17.13820294
Romania_Ukrainian
17.46795351
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.55302538
Ukrainian_Carpathian
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cluj_2
3.48955585
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.28515846
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.39369076
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.44447426
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.86330965
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.25080795
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
6.39187766
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.60736710
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.76726680
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.81759488
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.98006447
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.16850054
Romania_Banat_Timis
8.10399901
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.12543537
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.79737210
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.98099193
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
10.86103126
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
11.08741629
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.23869654
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
</tbody>
aherne
02-25-2021, 06:20 AM
Funny thing these oracles detect is that Hungarians from Transylvania are closer to Romanians from Transylvania than latter are to those from Oltenia. This confirms with racial anthropology but one thing that shows their overall unreliability is lack of any "evidence" for Old Magyar genes in current Hungarians. Physically many Hungarians, especially in Transylvania where this ethnic group is almost entirely Romanian+Magyar in ancestry, show obvious signs of Magyar "VUR" phenotypes (Aryo-Uralo-Turanid). Are you guys believing latter had no influence in Hungarians' ethnogenesis? This is ridiculous! I read in a demographic study a while ago (what was their impact on native population) that their influence was in a range of 10-15% following a East-West cline (East having more, of course).
Latter findings confirm with my observations of Szekelers: most look like typical Romanians (70%), but a significant minority looks a bit distinct due to Magyar influences (25%) and a small minority is unpassable except among Finno-Ugrian nations (5%)
A338866 24.31 31.78 19.90 2.80 16.34 2.53 0.19 0 1.20 0.80 0.15 0 0
An extremely low West Asian score for Romania. Like 3 times lower than average.
Ion Basescul
02-25-2021, 07:18 AM
Funny thing these oracles detect is that Hungarians from Transylvania are closer to Romanians from Transylvania than latter are to those from Oltenia. This confirms with racial anthropology but one thing that shows their overall unreliability is lack of any "evidence" for Old Magyar genes in current Hungarians. Physically many Hungarians, especially in Transylvania where this ethnic group is almost entirely Romanian+Magyar in ancestry, show obvious signs of Magyar "VUR" phenotypes (Aryo-Uralo-Turanid). Are you guys believing latter had no influence in Hungarians' ethnogenesis? This is ridiculous! I read in a demographic study a while ago (what was their impact on native population) that their influence was in a range of 10-15% following a East-West cline (East having more, of course).
Latter findings confirm with my observations of Szekelers: most look like typical Romanians (70%), but a significant minority looks a bit distinct due to Magyar influences (25%) and a small minority is unpassable except among Finno-Ugrian nations (5%)
The vast majority of Romanians from Transylvania are closer to those from Oltenia than to local Hungarians though. That's what most of my posts in this thread show. But there are some who are closer to Hungarians of course.
Scandal
02-25-2021, 08:49 AM
Funny thing these oracles detect is that Hungarians from Transylvania are closer to Romanians from Transylvania than latter are to those from Oltenia. This confirms with racial anthropology but one thing that shows their overall unreliability is lack of any "evidence" for Old Magyar genes in current Hungarians. Physically many Hungarians, especially in Transylvania where this ethnic group is almost entirely Romanian+Magyar in ancestry, show obvious signs of Magyar "VUR" phenotypes (Aryo-Uralo-Turanid). Are you guys believing latter had no influence in Hungarians' ethnogenesis? This is ridiculous! I read in a demographic study a while ago (what was their impact on native population) that their influence was in a range of 10-15% following a East-West cline (East having more, of course).
Latter findings confirm with my observations of Szekelers: most look like typical Romanians (70%), but a significant minority looks a bit distinct due to Magyar influences (25%) and a small minority is unpassable except among Finno-Ugrian nations (5%)
Not sure what you mean but Hungarians from Romania are genetically a blend of Romanians and Hungarians from Hungary with elevated levels of Mongoloid. They have more Mongoloid than both Romanians and Hungarians from Hungary, so ethnic Hungarians from Romania have most likely more conqueror ancestry than those from Hungary (unless Turks/Tatars/Mongol rapists specifically targeted ethnic Hungarians of Transylvania, that's very unlikely).
Hungarians from Romania are more Balkan/Romanian by genetics than those from Hungary but they're still closer to Hungary_avarage than to Romania_avarage.
Hungarian_Transylvania:
Distance to: Hungarian_Transylvania
1.16619038 Székely
2.24461578 Csángó-Ceangău
3.74759923 Croat_West
4.67794827 Croat_South
4.90560903 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.93330518 Croat
4.94560411 Hungarian
4.96957745 Hungarian_Alföld
5.43561404 Serb_north
5.47866772 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.71539150 Serb_central
5.91459212 Serb
6.02299759 Bosniak
6.13950324 Romania_Maramures
6.39654594 Moldova_Centre
6.49513664 Romania_Crisana
6.54796151 Croat_East
6.64836822 Croat_North
6.67627141 Moldova_average
7.38275694 Slovenian
7.72862213 Romania_Moldavia_South
7.75199974 Romania_Transylvania
7.83529195 Hungarian_Northern
7.85563492 Moldova_North
8.45031952 Montenegrin
8.63789905 Romania_average
8.89541455 Serb_south
9.33245948 Moldova_South
9.41421266 Romania_Oltenia
9.48130793 Romania_Banat
9.73655997 Austrian
Székely:
Distance to: Székely
1.16619038 Hungarian_Transylvania
2.42971192 Csángó-Ceangău
3.81304340 Croat_West
4.12863173 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.34732101 Croat_South
4.80621473 Serb_north
4.94729219 Serb_central
5.12483170 Croat
5.15658802 Serb
5.33770550 Romania_Maramures
5.46614123 Hungarian_Alföld
5.56288594 Bosniak
5.62199253 Hungarian
5.71487533 Moldova_Centre
5.72424668 Romania_Crisana
5.96538347 Moldova_average
6.26325794 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
6.53470734 Croat_East
6.88945571 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.93075032 Romania_Transylvania
7.20763484 Croat_North
7.53728068 Moldova_North
7.70861207 Montenegrin
7.77996787 Romania_average
8.01550997 Serb_south
8.06145768 Slovenian
8.32649986 Hungarian_Northern
Csángó
Distance to: Csángó-Ceangău
2.24461578 Hungarian_Transylvania
2.42971192 Székely
4.27235298 Croat_West
4.42068999 Croat_South
4.62285626 Hungarian_Alföld
4.62369982 Croat
4.63418817 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.97257479 Hungarian
5.23728938 Serb_north
5.42602986 Bosniak
5.53973826 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.70030701 Moldova_Centre
5.86060577 Croat_East
5.94303794 Serb
5.98354410 Serb_central
5.99021702 Moldova_average
6.28673206 Romania_Maramures
6.35701974 Croat_North
6.51615684 Moldova_North
7.14296157 Romania_Crisana
7.35612670 Slovenian
7.61507058 Hungarian_Northern
8.13686057 Romania_Moldavia_South
8.19842668 Romania_Transylvania
8.92576047 Romania_average
9.00263295 Montenegrin
9.33429697 Serb_south
9.37131794 Ukrainian_Carpathian
and genetics don't necessarily correlate with looks that strictly. Moldova_avarage is more like Serbia_avarage than Romania_avarage but I doubt people would say Moldovans look more like Serbs than Romanians.
Scandal
02-25-2021, 09:11 AM
Conqueror ancestry is obvious in Hungarians from Romania (in Hungarians from Hungary less so), however this isn't the only difference between them and ethnic Romanians
Target: Csángó-Ceangău
Distance: 0.6733% / 0.67331184 | R3P
55.4 Bosniak
29.0 Swiss_French
15.6 Tatar
Target: Hungarian_Transylvania
Distance: 0.2753% / 0.27529040 | R4P
71.6 Romania_Maramures
11.7 German
11.0 Orcadian
5.7 Mari
Target: Székely
Distance: 0.4574% / 0.45743904 | R3P
76.3 Romania_Crisana
15.3 Swedish
8.4 Chuvash
Ethnic Romanians also have some Mong, but less than this.
Vahaduo k13's Tatar sample is Crimean Tatar or Volga tatar?
Vahaduo k13's Tatar sample is Crimean Tatar or Volga tatar?
Volga. It's from the original spreadsheet
Tatar,18.88,34.62,5.85,11.66,3.85,0.90,2.68,3.12,1 5.56,2.00,0.28,0.13,0.46
aherne
02-25-2021, 09:50 AM
Conqueror ancestry is obvious in Hungarians from Romania (in Hungarians from Hungary less so), however this isn't the only difference between them and ethnic Romanians
That's because all admixture with Bulgaro-Romanians (at that time RO/BG were one bilingual people) occurred in middle ages when Magyars settled (converting many natives to Catholicism, intermarrying and making offspring speak their language) but from that moment on it was minimal until 20th century due to cultural/religious differences. There was admixture with Germans, as well, but it kind of stopped due to religious differences after reformation (Germans becoming Lutheran, Hungarians becoming Calvinist/Catholic/Unitarian).
Physically speaking, Romanian Hungarians show more conqueror admixture than 5%, that's for sure!
Scandal
02-25-2021, 10:33 AM
That's because all admixture with Bulgaro-Romanians (at that time RO/BG were one bilingual people) occurred in middle ages when Magyars settled (converting many natives to Catholicism, intermarrying and making offspring speak their language) but from that moment on it was minimal until 20th century due to cultural/religious differences. There was admixture with Germans, as well, but it kind of stopped due to religious differences after reformation (Germans becoming Lutheran, Hungarians becoming Calvinist/Catholic/Unitarian).
Physically speaking, Romanian Hungarians show more conqueror admixture than 5%, that's for sure!
Transylvanian Saxons always had different religion than Romanians, but the Transylvanian Saxon results posted in this thread look quite mixed, they obviously have Romainan admixture. Or maybe they mixed with Hungarians? Idk, but in any case their results look mixed.
Ion Basescul
02-25-2021, 12:50 PM
From Arad
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
26.63
25.74
18.92
9.34
14.96
0.74
0
0.79
1.89
0
0.98
0
0
30.66
25.21
14.99
11.44
15.27
0.76
0
0
0
1.07
0.49
0
0.11
24.75
27.09
14.27
12.86
17.37
0
2.17
0.66
0.72
0.09
0
0
0
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Compared to others from Arad
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
27.57
24.00
19.31
7.29
17.40
0.61
0
1.27
0.75
0.26
0.98
0
0.55
23.58
25.51
17.64
8.15
19.75
2.32
0
0
1.91
1.15
0
0
0
26.05
21.87
19.47
12.26
15.09
1.59
1.71
0.30
1.26
0
0.38
0
0
28.66
23.95
15.36
6.58
16.85
3.30
3.16
1.72
0.22
0
0
0
0.19
27.74
25.83
16.89
8.16
19.04
0.77
0
0
0.71
0.86
0
0
0
25.78
22.04
16.38
13.14
18.78
2.29
0.33
0.62
0
0.51
0
0.13
0
25.18
22.55
19.19
12.33
15.99
1.52
0.06
0.53
0.1
1.27
0.63
0.65
0
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_1
2.79588984
Romania_Crisana
3.94173820
Romania_Transylvania
4.01966417
Montenegrin
4.27509064
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.62314828
Romania_Maramures
4.78614668
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.83726162
Serb_central
4.89945915
Romania_average
4.93420713
Serb
4.97411299
Romania_Oltenia
5.43464810
Romania_Banat
5.48528942
Serb_south
5.68353763
Székely
5.95766733
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.99845814
Serb_north
6.02371978
Moldova_South
6.25456633
Hungarian_Transylvania
6.38463781
Romania_Wallachia
6.41318953
Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.45886987
Romania_Dobruja
6.72290116
Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.78961707
Csángó-Ceangău
6.99052216
Romania_Muntenia
7.23626976
Croat_South
7.49234276
Moldova_average
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_1
2.79588984
Romania_Crisana
3.94173820
Romania_Transilvania
4.27509064
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.62314828
Romania_Maramures
4.89945915
Romania_average
4.97411299
Romania_Oltenia
5.43464810
Romania_Banat
5.68353763
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.95766733
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.02371978
Moldova_Sud
6.25456633
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.45886987
Romania_Dobrogea
6.78961707
Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.99052216
Romania_Muntenia
7.49234276
Moldova_average
7.58965085
Moldova_Centru
7.76711658
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
8.07809383
Bulgarian
10.44358176
Moldova_Nord
10.58837570
Moldova_Gagauzia
11.42952755
Aromanian
11.68644514
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
14.60857967
Romania_Ukrainian
14.80568134
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.83374194
Ukrainian_Carpathian
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_1
1.77564073
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
3.36242472
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.43741182
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.49887125
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.56120766
Romania_Crisana_Arad
3.99101491
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.01953977
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.43606808
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.63970904
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.70666549
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.18549901
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.23359341
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.36279778
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.96183697
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
6.06839353
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.85275748
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
8.55125137
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.96152362
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.68644514
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
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2
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_2
6.37301342
Székely
6.44239862
Hungarian_Transylvania
6.45052711
Romania_Crisana
7.39668845
Romania_Transylvania
7.50605089
Montenegrin
7.59724292
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.83379857
Csángó-Ceangău
7.84664259
Serb_central
7.94945281
Romania_Maramures
8.04405992
Romania_Moldavia_North
8.05645704
Serb
8.09167473
Croat_West
8.33551438
Romania_average
8.36939066
Romania_Oltenia
8.42804248
Bosniak_Sandzak
8.44429985
Serb_north
8.76736562
Croat_South
8.99283604
Serb_south
9.04030420
Romania_Banat
9.28906346
Bulgaria_Southwestern
9.53762549
Romania_Wallachia
9.74128328
Croat
9.79057200
Moldova_South
9.81281305
Romania_Dobruja
9.84000508
Moldova_Centre
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_2
6.37301342
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.44239862
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.45052711
Romania_Crisana
7.39668845
Romania_Transilvania
7.59724292
Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.83379857
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.94945281
Romania_Maramures
8.04405992
Romania_Moldova_Nord
8.33551438
Romania_average
8.36939066
Romania_Oltenia
9.00927300
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
9.04030420
Romania_Banat
9.27814098
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.79057200
Moldova_Sud
9.81281305
Romania_Dobrogea
9.84000508
Moldova_Centru
9.94242928
Moldova_average
10.02643007
Romania_Muntenia
10.73009320
Bulgarian
12.13675822
Moldova_Nord
13.25754879
Moldova_Gagauzia
13.72974872
Aromanian
15.40906551
Romania_Ukrainian
15.47954134
Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.89691480
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_2
5.36258333
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.88353635
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.63977409
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.64315437
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.84989781
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
6.96030172
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
7.68020833
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.79025032
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
8.03040472
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
8.17683924
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.44656735
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
8.53839563
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
8.57620545
Romania_Banat_Timis
9.13236005
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.15281378
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
9.16636242
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
9.27814098
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
11.36682453
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
12.28122551
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
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3
<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_3
4.91571968
Romania_Moldavia_South
4.98192734
Romania_average
5.02382325
Romania_Transylvania
5.38927639
Romania_Crisana
5.43596358
Romania_Banat
5.45146769
Romania_Oltenia
5.57142711
Romania_Maramures
5.65470600
Moldova_South
5.77833021
Romania_Wallachia
5.79448876
Serb_south
5.94145605
Romania_Dobruja
5.94873096
Montenegrin
5.95462006
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.04272290
Serb
6.04976859
Romania_Muntenia
6.11610170
Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.17247924
Bulgaria_Northwestern
6.20744714
Serb_central
6.61187568
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.63551807
Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.67572468
Moldova_Centre
6.68624708
Moldova_average
6.68681539
Bulgaria_average
6.77619362
Serb_north
7.32114745
Bulgaria_Northeastern
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_3
4.91571968
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.98192734
Romania_average
5.02382325
Romania_Transilvania
5.38927639
Romania_Crisana
5.43596358
Romania_Banat
5.45146769
Romania_Oltenia
5.57142711
Romania_Maramures
5.65470600
Moldova_Sud
5.94145605
Romania_Dobrogea
5.95462006
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.04976859
Romania_Muntenia
6.67572468
Moldova_Centru
6.68624708
Moldova_average
6.96286579
Bulgarian
7.44901336
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
7.79876272
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.54491077
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.86909240
Moldova_Gagauzia
8.89744907
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.84416071
Moldova_Nord
11.07322898
Aromanian
14.69080325
Romania_Ukrainian
14.83197222
Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.08336501
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.76530050
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Arad_3
4.77280840
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.96888317
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.02902575
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.25458847
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
5.26000000
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.29565860
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.38843205
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.61345705
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.74566793
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.80587633
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.96766286
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.64927816
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
6.79767607
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.98521295
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
7.17721394
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.41912703
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.48952884
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.40270157
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
15.76530050
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
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Ion Basescul
02-25-2021, 01:01 PM
From Bihor
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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
1
22.65
27.34
19.48
11.03
16.76
0.61
0.60
0
0
1.11
0.42
0
0
2
24.71
28.77
16.70
8.87
16.46
0.57
0
0.23
0.90
1.57
0.82
0.36
0
3
25.94
31.05
17.20
7.15
14.23
0.59
2.13
0
0.90
0.62
0.18
0
0
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Compared to others from Bihor
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
21.25
28.53
20.32
8.83
17.68
0
0
2.03
1.24
0.06
0
0
0
24.53
25.10
18.74
10.33
17.26
1.30
0
0.91
1.60
0
0.16
0
0.08
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1/4 Roma
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
28.93
22.95
16.48
8.26
18.21
0
5.05
0
0.07
0
0
0.06
0
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_1
3.20132785
Moldova_South
3.35126842
Romania_average
3.35393798
Romania_Banat
3.54286607
Romania_Oltenia
3.58778483
Romania_Transylvania
3.59684584
Serb_south
3.69056906
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.78627786
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.85016883
Montenegrin
3.92276688
Bulgaria_Northwestern
4.11724422
Romania_Wallachia
4.14319925
Romania_Crisana
4.24390151
Romania_Dobruja
4.42090488
Romania_Maramures
4.49716577
Romania_Muntenia
4.61799740
Serb
4.64550320
Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.94851493
Serb_central
5.11262164
Bulgaria_average
5.42246254
Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.79093257
Pomak_Bulgaria
5.93117189
Bulgaria_Southcentral
5.99731607
Serb_north
6.32404143
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.58195260
Moldova_average
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_1
3.20132785
Moldova_Sud
3.35126842
Romania_average
3.35393798
Romania_Banat
3.54286607
Romania_Oltenia
3.58778483
Romania_Transilvania
3.69056906
Romania_Moldova_Sud
4.14319925
Romania_Crisana
4.24390151
Romania_Dobrogea
4.42090488
Romania_Maramures
4.49716577
Romania_Muntenia
5.37751801
Bulgarian
6.32404143
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.58195260
Moldova_average
6.92064303
Moldova_Centru
7.62687354
Moldova_Gagauzia
8.36429316
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
8.91992713
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
9.61687059
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.65155428
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.65372467
Aromanian
9.99402321
Moldova_Nord
15.23437888
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.24641269
Romania_Ukrainian
15.38949642
Ukrainian_Carpathian
16.39673443
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_1
2.94947453
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
3.13325709
Romania_Banat_Timis
3.39399470
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.51197950
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.55340682
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.62179514
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
3.75417101
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.99268080
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
4.27705506
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.57612281
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.92909728
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.24558862
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.46887557
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.71152344
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.97478033
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.12170488
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
10.16198307
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.82578404
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
16.39673443
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
2
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_2
2.04963411
Serb_central
2.14366509
Serb
2.54609505
Romania_Maramures
3.17326330
Serb_north
3.25538016
Romania_Crisana
3.30616092
Romania_Moldavia_North
3.60722885
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.62931123
Serb_south
3.71717635
Romania_Transylvania
4.15191522
Romania_average
4.25312826
Moldova_average
4.36186887
Moldova_South
4.45056176
Moldova_Centre
4.61181092
Montenegrin
4.87591017
Croat_South
4.96466514
Romania_Banat
5.09014735
Bosniak
5.12016601
Romania_Oltenia
5.25616781
Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.59840156
Székely
5.61991993
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.00162478
Romania_Wallachia
6.05459330
Romania_Dobruja
6.26383269
Croat_West
6.47321404
Romania_Muntenia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_2
2.54609505
Romania_Maramures
3.25538016
Romania_Crisana
3.30616092
Romania_Moldova_Nord
3.60722885
Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.71717635
Romania_Transilvania
4.15191522
Romania_average
4.25312826
Moldova_average
4.36186887
Moldova_Sud
4.45056176
Moldova_Centru
4.85390564
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
4.96466514
Romania_Banat
5.12016601
Romania_Oltenia
5.59840156
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
6.05459330
Romania_Dobrogea
6.47321404
Romania_Muntenia
6.48327849
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
6.79677865
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.62101699
Moldova_Nord
7.65014379
Bulgarian
10.48842219
Moldova_Gagauzia
11.94808771
Aromanian
12.00538629
Romania_Ukrainian
12.10220228
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.37251793
Ukrainian_Carpathian
14.53084650
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_2
2.35304059
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
2.68588905
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
3.35673949
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.40972140
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
3.58549857
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
3.75315867
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.03486059
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.06187149
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.45097742
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
4.45356037
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.56620192
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.69253663
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.78125507
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.96679977
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
5.30636410
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.57062833
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.70450518
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.91633180
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
14.53084650
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
3
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_3
2.83608886
Croat_South
2.95220257
Serb_north
3.44657801
Serb_central
3.62808489
Serb
3.63085389
Bosniak
3.79728851
Romania_Moldavia_North
3.92536622
Croat_West
4.37744218
Moldova_Centre
4.43110596
Romania_Maramures
4.43468150
Moldova_average
4.74799958
Croat
4.79495568
Székely
5.20678404
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.36551023
Csángó-Ceangău
5.67226586
Croat_East
5.90074572
Romania_Crisana
6.15093489
Moldova_North
6.19276190
Hungarian_Alföld
6.91103465
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.93351282
Hungarian
6.98983548
Serb_south
7.00484832
Romania_Transylvania
7.48796368
Croat_North
7.51438620
Moldova_South
7.57848930
Romania_average
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_3
3.72664729
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
3.79728851
Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.37744218
Moldova_Centru
4.43110596
Romania_Maramures
4.43468150
Moldova_average
4.79495568
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.20678404
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
5.36551023
Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.90074572
Romania_Crisana
6.15093489
Moldova_Nord
6.91103465
Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.00484832
Romania_Transilvania
7.51438620
Moldova_Sud
7.57848930
Romania_average
8.29110367
Romania_Banat
8.50970035
Romania_Oltenia
8.90276362
Romania_Ukrainian
8.90915260
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.35593395
Ukrainian_Carpathian
9.53694920
Romania_Dobrogea
10.06391574
Romania_Muntenia
11.43610073
Bulgarian
13.85234998
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
14.07105184
Moldova_Gagauzia
15.55504098
Aromanian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_3
3.59965276
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
3.88696540
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.19735631
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
4.78229025
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
5.04837598
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.81555672
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.57756794
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.71664351
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.80380041
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
7.04521824
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
7.05135448
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.36842588
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.91338739
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
7.98301322
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
8.05641359
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
8.06316315
Romania_Crisana_Arad
8.08822601
Romania_Banat_Timis
12.32304346
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
13.85234998
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
02-25-2021, 01:08 PM
From Bihor
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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
1
18.57
29.51
18.98
9.71
20.43
0.41
0
0
0.71
1.22
0.39
0
0.09
2
30.10
27.60
15.66
7.82
12.16
2.43
1.36
0
1.78
0.68
0.29
0
0.12
3
28.28
25.17
15.11
10.73
14.95
2.47
0
0.22
1.86
0.79
0
0
0.36
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
21.25
28.53
20.32
8.83
17.68
0
0
2.03
1.24
0.06
0
0
0
24.53
25.10
18.74
10.33
17.26
1.30
0
0.91
1.60
0
0.16
0
0.08
22.65
27.34
19.48
11.03
16.76
0.61
0.60
0
0
1.11
0.42
0
0
24.71
28.77
16.70
8.87
16.46
0.57
0
0.23
0.90
1.57
0.82
0.36
0
25.94
31.05
17.20
7.15
14.23
0.59
2.13
0
0.90
0.62
0.18
0
0
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_1
5.62769047
Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.70011403
Pomak_Bulgaria
5.86127119
Moldova_South
6.17889149
Serb_south
6.40866601
Pomak_Greece
6.75002963
Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.80710658
Romania_Dobruja
6.81044051
Romania_Muntenia
6.84840857
Romania_Banat
6.94280203
Romania_Wallachia
7.08946401
Bulgaria_average
7.11912916
Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.14607585
Romania_average
7.54997351
Romania_Oltenia
7.76671745
Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.79467126
Romania_Moldavia_South
7.87715685
Moldova_South_Gagauzia
7.94014483
Bosniak_Sandzak
7.95185513
Romania_Transylvania
8.22397714
Romania_Maramures
8.27107006
Montenegrin
8.29301513
Serb
8.42505786
Greek_Northern-Thrace
8.50702063
Serb_central
8.71908826
Macedonian_North
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_1
5.86127119
Moldova_Sud
6.80710658
Romania_Dobrogea
6.81044051
Romania_Muntenia
6.84840857
Romania_Banat
7.00487687
Bulgarian
7.14607585
Romania_average
7.54997351
Romania_Oltenia
7.79467126
Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.95185513
Romania_Transilvania
8.22397714
Romania_Maramures
8.35515410
Moldova_Gagauzia
8.79204754
Moldova_average
8.93737657
Romania_Crisana
9.21168280
Moldova_Centru
9.60787698
Romania_Moldova_Nord
10.41540206
Aromanian
10.95178524
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
11.80621447
Moldova_Nord
13.02217724
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
13.80733139
Romania_Moldova_Csango
13.94346083
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
16.42867919
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
16.64870265
Romania_Ukrainian
17.09740331
Ukrainian_Carpathian
21.56921185
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_1
3.79482542
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
6.44230549
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.10902947
Romania_Banat_Timis
7.22721246
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.22960580
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
7.55096020
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
7.94986792
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
8.11035141
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.25520442
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
8.93267037
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.00194423
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.17689490
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
9.30231692
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
10.42957813
Romania_Crisana_Arad
10.94776690
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
12.58210237
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
13.02196990
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
14.56832180
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
21.56921185
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
2
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_2
2.12393503
Hungarian_Transylvania
2.95115232
Székely
3.91129135
Csángó-Ceangău
4.89440497
Croat_West
5.68013204
Hungarian
5.94737757
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
6.02518050
Hungarian_Alföld
6.13419106
Croat_South
6.21148935
Croat
6.44697604
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.76836760
Serb_central
6.79589582
Serb_north
7.01269563
Romania_Crisana
7.05656432
Serb
7.14364053
Romania_Maramures
7.45300610
Croat_North
7.59918417
Bosniak
7.85624592
Slovenian
8.05952232
Moldova_Centre
8.06231356
Croat_East
8.29671622
Moldova_average
8.34211004
Romania_Transylvania
8.38396684
Romania_Moldavia_South
8.73486691
Hungarian_Northern
8.76083900
Austrian
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_2
2.12393503
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
2.95115232
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
3.91129135
Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.44697604
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.64558500
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
7.01269563
Romania_Crisana
7.14364053
Romania_Maramures
8.05952232
Moldova_Centru
8.29671622
Moldova_average
8.34211004
Romania_Transilvania
8.38396684
Romania_Moldova_Sud
8.66595061
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.33915414
Romania_average
9.60451456
Moldova_Nord
9.91977318
Romania_Oltenia
10.12913126
Romania_Banat
10.20711027
Moldova_Sud
11.25502999
Romania_Dobrogea
11.59871976
Romania_Ukrainian
11.72910056
Ukrainian_Carpathian
11.75160840
Romania_Muntenia
12.02940979
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.08939647
Bulgarian
15.68031887
Moldova_Gagauzia
16.45222781
Aromanian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_2
3.04359984
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
4.67711450
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
5.16747521
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.66877800
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.01613141
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
7.30992476
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.46446247
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
7.54831769
Romania_Crisana_Arad
8.17286975
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
8.24519254
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
8.42265991
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
8.45624030
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
8.66595061
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
9.28930568
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
9.47591157
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
9.54431768
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
9.81049948
Romania_Banat_Timis
11.79660544
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
12.89262968
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
3
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_3
4.72229817
Romania_Crisana
4.94872711
Székely
5.30032075
Romania_Transylvania
5.33643139
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.40247166
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.52991863
Montenegrin
5.94217132
Romania_Maramures
6.16237779
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.18216790
Romania_average
6.21203670
Serb_central
6.36528868
Serb
6.38883401
Csángó-Ceangău
6.48963019
Romania_Oltenia
6.79905140
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.87293969
Romania_Banat
6.99761388
Serb_north
7.05857634
Serb_south
7.39354448
Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.52742320
Romania_Wallachia
7.53465991
Moldova_South
7.62320143
Croat_West
7.67058668
Romania_Dobruja
7.70083762
Croat_South
7.94896849
Moldova_Centre
8.00838935
Romania_Muntenia
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_3
4.72229817
Romania_Crisana
4.94872711
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.30032075
Romania_Transilvania
5.33643139
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
5.40247166
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.94217132
Romania_Maramures
6.16237779
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.18216790
Romania_average
6.38883401
Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.48963019
Romania_Oltenia
6.87293969
Romania_Banat
7.53465991
Moldova_Sud
7.56137554
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
7.67058668
Romania_Dobrogea
7.94896849
Moldova_Centru
8.00838935
Romania_Muntenia
8.04034203
Moldova_average
9.08406847
Bulgarian
10.68241078
Moldova_Nord
10.75527313
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
11.50479031
Moldova_Gagauzia
12.26091351
Aromanian
14.65622393
Romania_Ukrainian
14.74057665
Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.08893303
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Bihor_3
3.96025252
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
3.98194676
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.22966902
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.45304390
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.25914442
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.54914408
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.63971630
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.72677047
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
5.89599864
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
6.03428538
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.33040283
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.49420511
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.60137107
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.83641719
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
7.55060262
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.39092367
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
9.39596190
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
10.59498466
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.75527313
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
ixulescu
02-25-2021, 01:17 PM
Hungarians from Romania are more Balkan/Romanian by genetics than those from Hungary but they're still closer to Hungary_avarage than to Romania_avarage.
You're making an inappropriate comparison and draw an incorrect conclusion.
Romania is a big country, what's the point of comparing Transylvanian Hungarians with Romanian average? Transylvanian Hungarians are closer to Northern Moldovans (from Romania, not RM) than to Hungarian average. This make perfect sense from a historical standpoint, because Transylvanian Hungarians are from Northern Transylvania (former Maramures principality), which is the province that colonized Moldova.
aherne
02-26-2021, 09:53 AM
Romania is a big country, what's the point of comparing Transylvanian Hungarians with Romanian average? Transylvanian Hungarians are closer to Northern Moldovans (from Romania, not RM) than to Hungarian average. This make perfect sense from a historical standpoint, because Transylvanian Hungarians are from Northern Transylvania (former Maramures principality), which is the province that colonized Moldova.
These oracles are pure bullshit:) IDK why you guys bother with them: until they start to align with historical evidence, no time should be wasted on them
Scandal
02-26-2021, 10:53 AM
These oracles are pure bullshit:) IDK why you guys bother with them: until they start to align with historical evidence, no time should be wasted on them
What's bullshit about them? How are they not aligned with historical evidences? What is it that you don't believe? You really think Transylvanian Germans didn't mix with anyone at all in Romania, even though they have been there for 800 years? Even White South Africans have mixed blacks and coloreds in south africa, dna tests show that.
Or you don't believe Hungarians are not same as Romanians in Transylvania? They're similar, just not 100% the same.
aherne
02-26-2021, 12:31 PM
What's bullshit about them? How are they not aligned with historical evidences?
I used Hungarians' case to prove my point: Magyar ancestry is minimized to oblivion by these oracles, but racial evidence shows it significant enough as we go east (Hungarians from Transylvania, Szekelers in particular, have more individuals looking Magyar than those living in Slovakia for example). This aligns with EAST-WEST move of Magyars from Southern Bessarabia to Pannonian Plains
You really think Transylvanian Germans didn't mix with anyone at all in Romania, even though they have been there for 800 years?
Never claimed that... I claimed that Hungarians from Transylvania didn't mix that much with Germans due to religious as well as cultural reasons (Germans being concentrated in their own areas that were generally free of Hungarians)
Or you don't believe Hungarians are not same as Romanians in Transylvania? They're similar, just not 100% the same.
I fully agree. Of course they are not the same: occasional presence of Magyar look makes them different. Lack of admixture throughout last millennia (until WW1) also made them a bit different. But the basis remains the same: that's my whole point...
ixulescu
02-26-2021, 12:40 PM
These oracles are pure bullshit:) IDK why you guys bother with them: until they start to align with historical evidence, no time should be wasted on them
While the reference populations are trash, the relative distances are real. Just that people should understand that ranking based on small distances can completely change with different sampling.
Scandal
02-26-2021, 01:45 PM
I used Hungarians' case to prove my point: Magyar ancestry is minimized to oblivion by these oracles, but racial evidence shows it significant enough as we go east (Hungarians from Transylvania, Szekelers in particular, have more individuals looking Magyar than those living in Slovakia for example). This aligns with EAST-WEST move of Magyars from Southern Bessarabia to Pannonian Plains
Never claimed that... I claimed that Hungarians from Transylvania didn't mix that much with Germans due to religious as well as cultural reasons (Germans being concentrated in their own areas that were generally free of Hungarians)
I fully agree. Of course they are not the same: occasional presence of Magyar look makes them different. Lack of admixture throughout last millennia (until WW1) also made them a bit different. But the basis remains the same: that's my whole point...
Phenotypes can be a bit random. Often minimal amount of mongoloid can greatly influence someone's look. It could be that European genes are recessive when mixed with Asians or Blacks. Chris the hungarian user (now inactive) is 98% European and 2% Asian on DNA tests but looks like he's 15-20% Mongoloid. I remember his first classification thread here, a user from Russia said Chris looks like a Volga Tatar, I agree with that. Btw he's half Székely, the other half is from southeast Hungary.
I don't think dna tests underestimate the Mongoloid in Hungarians. Some hungarians' appearance look turanid influenced, but you also find hungarians that don't show any turanid at all.
I fully agree. Of course they are not the same: occasional presence of Magyar look makes them different. Lack of admixture throughout last millennia (until WW1) also made them a bit different. But the basis remains the same: that's my whole point...
Both Hungarians and Romanians are genetically similar to their neighbors, like every other European ethnicity.
aherne
02-26-2021, 07:59 PM
While the reference populations are trash, the relative distances are real.
I love science and I try to apply a scientific method in this area as well. One of the main qualities of science is ability of truth to be replicable by experiment. That means if I'm measuring distances between European groups same values should effect if you were to measure as well. This is obviously not the case: each of these oracles (like horoscopes) give conflicting results, not to mention some that conflict with history (a notorious example being Basque's "Steppe" paternal ancestry). History teaches us:
- how did people look like in the past (via archaeology or contemporary evidence) in terms of measurements and, disputably, pigmentation
- what were the main population movements (using same evidence)
Genetic evidence, if valuable, would help us clear the haze where standard methods cannot apply. So far it seems it's only effective in tracing racial groups but even there results aren't independently replicable: if you're mixed race and give your sample to another company somewhat different results will emerge.
Scandal
02-27-2021, 09:01 AM
I love science and I try to apply a scientific method in this area as well. One of the main qualities of science is ability of truth to be replicable by experiment. That means if I'm measuring distances between European groups same values should effect if you were to measure as well. This is obviously not the case: each of these oracles (like horoscopes) give conflicting results, not to mention some that conflict with history (a notorious example being Basque's "Steppe" paternal ancestry). History teaches us:
- how did people look like in the past (via archaeology or contemporary evidence) in terms of measurements and, disputably, pigmentation
- what were the main population movements (using same evidence)
1) Basques being R1b has nothing to with oracles because these calculators don't deal with haplogroups. Yes, they're R1b and R1a, I don't think that's something disputable. Also, that's just a haplogroup. Autosomally Basques do show more indigeneous european admixture (more whg) than do Spaniards, even if the Basques tested are probably mixed with Spaniards.
2) There are different oracles, some more accurate than others. There are calculators that aren't for Europeans at all, while others - like Eurogenes k13 and k15 - are designed specifically for European populations. Ideally we shouldn't take a single calculator and not consider anything else, a better approach is to look at the general picture based on the different calculators. What most people do on this forum is act like k13 is the only calculator out there and neglect others, I don't agree with that policy.
3) I think the reason you're skeptical of dna tests is because you did it yourself and it shows you're mostly Romanian by ancestry. But that doesn't mean they're inaccurate. Even on this thread there were multiple "Transylvanian saxon" results posted, most were very obviously mixed, some individuals were like 70% Romanian+30% German, or even 80+20 IIRC. I remember you have also Czech and Greek ancestry besides Romanian and German, so your paper trail German ancestry is less than 50%. The German ancestry you have was most likely Romanian admixed too, so your own result ended up being western shifted Romanian. Maybe on k15 you could show a little more German influence, because my own result looks more NW euro on k15 and as I said previously, I don't like how people here only care about k13 and pretend other calcs don't exist.
Genetic evidence, if valuable, would help us clear the haze where standard methods cannot apply. So far it seems it's only effective in tracing racial groups but even there results aren't independently replicable: if you're mixed race and give your sample to another company somewhat different results will emerge.
The commercial tests are actually very accurate at telling major races from each other (caucasoid, mongoloid, negroid) and also consistent when it comes to identifying what % European, Amerind and African a mixed person is from the new world. Also, when you download your raw data from different companies and you transfer it to gedmatch, they will look 99% the same on Eurogenes k13 or other calculators even if previously they looked different because different companies break down the ancestry differently.
the reference populations are trash
I'm not sure about that.
Aspirin
02-27-2021, 09:30 AM
I think the reason you're skeptical of dna tests is because you did it yourslef and it shows you're mostly Romanian by ancestry..
This is the main reason why he is so butthurt, and why he so desperately want to prove something else. Same story with the freak ixulescu who wanted to prove what Moldavians are the same as Wallachians genetically, Transylvanian Romanians are identical to Hungarians, most rural population in Romania are Baltids, and all Moldavian samples colected by Ion Basescul are just cherrypicked samples to make Moldavians to be more northern.
Ion Basescul
02-27-2021, 09:49 AM
This is the main reason why he is so butthurt, and why he so desperately want to prove something else. Same story with the freak ixulescu who wanted to prove what Moldavians are the same as Wallachians genetically, Transylvanian Romanians are identical to Hungarians, most rural population in Romania are Baltids, and all Moldavian samples colected by Ion Basescul are just cherrypicked samples to make Moldavians to be more northern.
I'm like the last person on this forum to care about someone being more Northern or Southern. What I do care about is accuracy and objectivity.
Aspirin
02-27-2021, 09:59 AM
I'm like the last person on this forum to care about someone being more Northern or Southern. What I do care about is accuracy and objectivity.
I know, but that freak constantly insulting you because the results show totally a different story.
Aspirin
02-27-2021, 09:59 AM
Double post.
Ion Basescul
02-27-2021, 12:37 PM
I know, but that freak constantly insulting you because the results show totally a different story.
Which is why he is in my ignored list. But even if hundreds of samples are being ignored, we should get roughly similar averages with simply the data from Apricity users.
aherne
02-28-2021, 06:09 AM
I think the reason you're skeptical of dna tests is because you did it yourself and it shows you're mostly Romanian by ancestry.
It has nothing to do with that. I'm very very mixed (not just German/Romanian): lately I found out I have Hungarian ancestry as well on my "Romanian" side. So far: Romanian, German, Slovak, Hungarian, Croat, Greek and likely Indian (my great-grandfather looked Gypsy, which is also visible in my aunt and one of my cousins). For some reason, out of all this mix, I happen to look German and this is why I mostly identify with this ethnic group...
It has everything to do with scientific accuracy (results being independently replicable), historical accuracy (results being ignorant of historic and demographic events) and common sense (if you think with your own mind, you are able to see things that do not add up). I could continue to explain the inaccuracies I found, but it will fall on deaf ears... So let's believe that:
- Romanians have 1% east asian
- Hungarians have negligible to no Magyar admixture
- Gypsies are 40% West Asians and only 25% Indian
- Western European Hunter Gatherers were dark skinned while neolithic farmers were light skinned
Truth be told, Aspirin's and Nurzat's obsession with Gypsies is no good either. Huge exaggeration IMO. Just because you don't like the country for whatever reason doesn't mean reality can be distorted. When I post actual Gypsy results and analyze their components to the best of my ability, both individuals are nowhere to be found.
- Gypsies are 40% West Asians and only 25% Indian
More like 35%. There was a study on them and it's also consistent with Gedmatch results.
Scandal
02-28-2021, 08:21 AM
- Romanians have 1% east asian
- Hungarians have negligible to no Magyar admixture
- Gypsies are 40% West Asians and only 25% Indian
- Western European Hunter Gatherers were dark skinned while neolithic farmers were light skinned
1) When you combine Amerindian+East Asian+Siberian Romanians get between 2.0 and 2.5% on Vahaduo Eurogenes k13, but that's just an avarage, individually the scores can be different. Seya scores 4%. Chris the hungarian guy scores 2% and look very Asian influenced.
Don't historians say Romanians descend from Dacians? If so, why should the mong score be higher than 1 or 2%?
2) Why not? Some individuals show it, many others don't show it at all. You have experience mostly with Hungarians from Romania, who on avarage score more Mongoloid than do Hungarians from other places and phenotypically show Mongoloid influence more often. I don't know if you know who Chris is and how he looks like but he said he has been called chinese looking and gypsy looking by his countrymen, so it's not a look you see on every corner in Hungary.
3) Why not? On avarage they don't look the same as Indian people
4) I don't know. On the other hand the notion that he was a black man is certainly politically motivated propaganda.
Ion Basescul
02-28-2021, 08:35 AM
1) When you combine Amerindian+East Asian+Siberian Romanians get between 2.0 and 2.5% on Vahaduo Eurogenes k13, but that's just an avarage, individually the scores can be different. Seya scores 4%. Chris the hungarian guy scores 2% and look very Asian influenced.
Don't historians say Romanians descend from Dacians? If so, why should the mong score be higher than 1 or 2%?
2) Why not? Some individuals show it, many others don't show it at all. You have experience mostly with Hungarians from Romania, who on avarage score more Mongoloid than do Hungarians from other places and phenotypically show Mongoloid influence more often. I don't know if you know who Chris is and how he looks like but he said he has been called chinese looking and gypsy looking by his countrymen, so it's not a look you see on every corner in Hungary.
3) Why not? On avarage they don't look the same as Indian people
4) I don't know. On the other hand the notion that he was black skinned or straight up black is certainly politically motivated propaganda.
Well I score 3.6% or 4.6% depending on the test and aherne for example thought that I don't look Romanian (Alpine+Turanid). But that's just a coincidence IMO, which doesn't depend on the EA/Siberian/Amerind score. You need something like 20% to guarantee having a visible influence on the phenotype. And then there are smaller cases, where one barely needs to have any Mong. admixture for the phenotype influences to resurface. At the end of the day it's just a lottery.
aherne
02-28-2021, 01:16 PM
Don't historians say Romanians descend from Dacians? If so, why should the mong score be higher than 1 or 2%?
Because Turkic tribes were stationed in and around for more than a thousand years: Huns, Bulgars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Tatars. Many placenames have Turkic origin, many early historical figures had Turkic names. Turkic looks are not that uncommon either... That's why I find 1-2% to be out of touch with history and demography, but here maybe the error is somewhat acceptable due to narrow margins.
You have experience mostly with Hungarians from Romania, who on avarage score more Mongoloid than do Hungarians from other places and phenotypically show Mongoloid influence more often. I don't know if you know who Chris is and how he looks like but he said he has been called chinese looking and gypsy looking by his countrymen, so it's not a look you see on every corner in Hungary.
Chris fits better as a Turanid inspired Romanian. Also, ancient Magyars were not Mongoloid but as I correctly guessed by mapping their remnants on modern Hungarians they were Scythian-Uralic-Turkic mixes (see wiki article). Originally only Aryo-Uralic, then got a Turanid influence during migration era. I encourage you to visit Szekeler region: quite some people there look like original Magyars.
Why not? On avarage they don't look the same as Indian people
Because there is no historical basis for them being 45% West Asian. It's pure bullshit! They are what they look like: Indo-Europeans (ranging from Indian to European look). Much more similar to Europeans than Middle Easterners or even Turks... There is indeed rare overlap with Eastern Iranians but that's normal considering they came from NW India.
What I think in their case is a small founding population size, lots of inbreeding (if you've noticed, Gypsies are prone to genetic diseases and much less diverse in looks than NW Indians). When such cases happen, there is something called "genetic drift": random mutations in founders' pool gets maxed out over time giving inaccurate final ancestry results.
Scandal
02-28-2021, 05:20 PM
Because Turkic tribes were stationed in and around for more than a thousand years: Huns, Bulgars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Tatars. Many placenames have Turkic origin, many early historical figures had Turkic names. Turkic looks are not that uncommon either... That's why I find 1-2% to be out of touch with history and demography, but here maybe the error is somewhat acceptable due to narrow margins.
Chris fits better as a Turanid inspired Romanian. Also, ancient Magyars were not Mongoloid but as I correctly guessed by mapping their remnants on modern Hungarians they were Scythian-Uralic-Turkic mixes (see wiki article). Originally only Aryo-Uralic, then got a Turanid influence during migration era. I encourage you to visit Szekeler region: quite some people there look like original Magyars.
Because there is no historical basis for them being 45% West Asian. It's pure bullshit! They are what they look like: Indo-Europeans (ranging from Indian to European look). Much more similar to Europeans than Middle Easterners or even Turks... There is indeed rare overlap with Eastern Iranians but that's normal considering they came from NW India.
What I think in their case is a small founding population size, lots of inbreeding (if you've noticed, Gypsies are prone to genetic diseases and much less diverse in looks than NW Indians). When such cases happen, there is something called "genetic drift": random mutations in founders' pool gets maxed out over time giving inaccurate final ancestry results.
On which calculator are Gypsies 45% West Asian? They aren't on k13 and they can be modeled as 45% Greek, 45% North indian and 10% middle eastern or so, but it's a calculator for Europeans so I'm not sure.
On which calculator are Gypsies 45% West Asian? They aren't on k13 and they can be modeled as 45% Greek, 45% North indian and 10% middle eastern or so, but it's a calculator for Europeans so I'm not sure.
Nah. From Vahaduo, reduced to only 3 populations:
Target: Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 0.8493% / 0.84933619 | R3P
49.6 Greek_Thessaly
34.9 North_Kannadi
15.5 Armenian
I guess Kannadi is Kannada? That's a Dravidian language spoken in the state of Karnataka, Southern India. However, the Indian part of the Gypsy ethnogenesis is said to have come from low-caste tribes of Northwestern India. So I guess they were racially Dravidian with little to no Steppe.
The ancestors of the Gypsies came to Southeastern Europe from Northern India through Pakistan, Iran and Anatolia, as far as I know.
Ion Basescul
02-28-2021, 07:29 PM
Nah. From Vahaduo, reduced to only 3 populations:
Target: Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 0.8493% / 0.84933619 | R3P
49.6 Greek_Thessaly
34.9 North_Kannadi
15.5 Armenian
I guess Kannadi is Kannada? That's a Dravidian language spoken in the state of Karnataka, Southern India. However, the Indian part of the Gypsy ethnogenesis is said to have come from low-caste tribes of Northwestern India. So I guess they were racially Dravidian with little to no Steppe.
The ancestors of the Gypsies came to Southeastern Europe from Northern India through Pakistan, Iran and Anatolia, as far as I know.
Yes, Kannadi is irrelevant. The exact Indian community they come from are the Chamar, who are on K13 updated.
Ion Basescul
02-28-2021, 07:43 PM
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8.96119412
Aromanian
10.51144139
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.92572652
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
11.18115379
Romania_Moldova_Csango
11.54832022
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
11.57994387
Moldova_Nord
17.42809800
Ukrainian_Carpathian
17.57422260
Romania_Ukrainian
17.70595662
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
18.10877412
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_2
4.37027459
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.28970699
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.34490412
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
5.61444565
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.93604245
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.97489749
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.01764904
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.05688864
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
6.10497338
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.50986943
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.99306800
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.36545314
Romania_Crisana_Arad
7.54828457
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.98923025
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.16442282
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
9.81335315
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.43291301
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
12.98575373
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
18.10877412
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
3
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_3
6.73951779
Hungarian_Transylvania
7.08995769
Székely
7.24613000
Csángó-Ceangău
7.92051766
Croat_West
8.53943207
Hungarian
8.54262840
Romania_Crisana
8.64506217
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.64766442
Croat_South
8.65358885
Hungarian_Alföld
8.83910629
Serb_central
8.87223760
Croat
9.01885802
Serb_north
9.02842733
Serb
9.33085205
Romania_Maramures
9.46716959
Romania_Moldavia_North
9.65724598
Slovenian
9.68599504
Croat_North
10.01210767
Austrian
10.14385528
Romania_Transylvania
10.18639779
Swiss_French
10.22816699
Bosniak
10.26659632
Montenegrin
10.37591924
Romania_Moldavia_South
10.92551601
Croat_East
10.94201535
Moldova_Centre
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_3
6.73951779
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.08995769
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.24613000
Romania_Moldova_Csango
8.36573368
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
8.54262840
Romania_Crisana
9.33085205
Romania_Maramures
9.46716959
Romania_Moldova_Nord
10.05066167
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
10.14385528
Romania_Transilvania
10.37591924
Romania_Moldova_Sud
10.94201535
Moldova_Centru
10.98310976
Moldova_average
11.14838105
Romania_average
11.30883283
Romania_Oltenia
11.75591341
Romania_Banat
11.98048830
Moldova_Sud
12.12090343
Moldova_Nord
12.89003103
Romania_Dobrogea
13.40618141
Romania_Muntenia
13.86808927
Romania_Ukrainian
13.96755526
Ukrainian_Carpathian
14.06080723
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.49649268
Bulgarian
16.98322113
Moldova_Gagauzia
17.56415099
Aromanian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_3
6.76761406
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.92519314
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
7.50794246
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
8.36573368
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
8.88042792
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
8.91801547
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
9.24263491
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
9.28019396
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.28198793
Romania_Crisana_Arad
9.46478737
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
9.61536271
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
10.18740399
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
10.42504676
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
10.78144703
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
11.16201595
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
11.40788762
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
11.44433921
Romania_Banat_Timis
13.45666749
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
15.30543368
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
02-28-2021, 07:50 PM
From Timis
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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
1
22.32
23.43
17.89
14.79
15.03
1.54
1.77
0.71
0
1.45
0.69
0.39
0
2
28.01
26.21
14.84
10.98
15.81
0.63
0
0.08
2.14
1.01
0.29
0
0
3
22.96
26.89
17.60
12.74
13.30
2.49
0
0.74
2.18
1.11
0
0
0
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Compared to others from Timis
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.53
23.76
18.21
11.00
19.10
2.17
0
0
1.32
0.37
0.12
0
0.42
18.25
27.74
20.29
11.12
17.52
1.91
0.40
0.90
0.63
1.24
0
0
0
24.06
28.12
17.87
5.65
19.29
1.76
0
1.51
0.37
1.04
0
0.33
0
21.77
24.15
18.41
12.23
18.17
2.49
0.97
0.05
0.85
0.90
0
0
0
23.99
25.36
15.22
15.57
13.99
1.91
1.38
0
2.57
0
0
0
0
21.71
25.42
17.45
9.79
19.16
2.28
1.14
0.44
1.47
0.82
0.33
0
0
20.09
26.81
19.78
11.97
18.06
1.00
1.80
0
0.24
0
0.24
0
0
23.27
26.87
20.21
8.86
16.34
1.91
0
0.52
0
0.92
0.59
0.51
0
20.86
28.67
19.06
9.41
17.83
1.64
0.28
1.50
0.19
0
0.13
0.43
0
20.86
28.54
16.38
13.48
15.02
2.32
0.37
0
2.60
0
0
0
0.42
21.43
24.08
16.80
12.91
20.21
3.76
0.09
0
0.35
0.08
0.29
0
0
21.78
24.90
16.48
11.17
18.52
3.16
0.41
0.89
2.64
0
0.06
0
0
21.95
23.73
16.39
9.97
20.92
3.84
0.54
0.22
0.76
1.21
0.47
0
0
23.81
25.88
18.64
12.16
15.14
1.30
0
1.15
1.33
0
0.59
0
0
24.53
25.10
18.74
10.33
17.26
1.30
0
0.91
1.60
0
0.16
0
0.08
24.75
24.97
16.15
10.82
15.93
3.22
1.56
1.04
1.40
0
0.16
0
0
23.84
24.14
18.67
9.75
18.49
1.05
2.52
0.07
0
0.89
0.54
0
0
15.36
23.25
17.19
12.10
23.07
2.37
3.13
0.92
0.49
1.40
0.73
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
24.71
28.90
14.90
13.53
15.24
1.22
0
0.38
0.72
0
0.39
0
0
24.65
26.92
15.98
7.88
20.35
0.82
0.86
1.50
0.21
0.71
0.13
0
0
21.09
25.53
18.49
13.94
15.73
2.99
0
0
0.27
1.17
0.77
0
0
30.41
27.05
20.44
6.95
10.68
0
0.86
1.19
0.29
1.20
0
0.93
0
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_1
5.24369145
Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.37505349
Bulgaria_Southwestern
5.55656369
Romania_Wallachia
5.60128557
Romania_Oltenia
5.65039822
Romania_Muntenia
5.74652939
Romania_Banat
5.77239985
Romania_Dobruja
5.91922292
Bulgaria_average
5.98944906
Romania_average
6.21354971
Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.22520682
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.28998410
Romania_Transylvania
6.36339532
Romania_Moldavia_South
6.40826810
Montenegrin
6.56412980
Bulgaria_Southeastern
6.57134689
Moldova_South
6.62293741
Bulgaria_Southcentral
7.02694813
Pomak_Bulgaria
7.04046873
Bulgaria_Northwestern
7.18523486
Romania_Crisana
7.23503283
Moldova_South_Gagauzia
7.78990372
Serb_south
8.01273986
Macedonian_average
8.02638150
Macedonian_North
8.05026087
Romania_Maramures
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_1
5.60128557
Romania_Oltenia
5.65039822
Romania_Muntenia
5.74652939
Romania_Banat
5.77239985
Romania_Dobrogea
5.98944906
Romania_average
6.24709533
Bulgarian
6.28998410
Romania_Transilvania
6.36339532
Romania_Moldova_Sud
6.49363535
Moldova_Gagauzia
6.57134689
Moldova_Sud
7.18523486
Romania_Crisana
8.05026087
Romania_Maramures
9.21899669
Aromanian
9.34795165
Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.93341834
Moldova_average
10.07404586
Moldova_Centru
11.02939708
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
11.38791026
Romania_Moldova_Csango
11.54342670
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
11.56430716
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.06005360
Moldova_Nord
17.06735480
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
18.58098759
Ukrainian_Carpathian
18.75619898
Romania_Ukrainian
19.03644925
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_1
5.37443951
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.13464750
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.21141691
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
6.39096237
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
6.44145170
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.45635346
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
6.61687993
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
6.95974137
Romania_Crisana_Arad
7.21995845
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
7.67652916
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
7.82184761
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
8.21098045
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
8.24135911
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
8.29876497
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
8.53929154
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
9.32903532
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
11.77690961
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
13.47274656
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
17.06735480
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
2
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_2
4.43947069
Romania_Crisana
4.79678017
Székely
5.10393965
Romania_Transylvania
5.20220146
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.39795332
Hungarian_Transylvania
5.60345429
Romania_Moldavia_North
5.62695299
Romania_Maramures
5.63109226
Montenegrin
5.65681889
Serb_central
5.78421127
Serb
5.91903708
Romania_average
6.34565205
Romania_Oltenia
6.37548430
Serb_north
6.39509187
Csángó-Ceangău
6.59374704
Serb_south
6.67349234
Romania_Banat
6.76649836
Bosniak_Sandzak
7.13679900
Croat_South
7.18988873
Moldova_South
7.19118905
Croat_West
7.27670942
Moldova_Centre
7.34403840
Romania_Wallachia
7.36059101
Bulgaria_Southwestern
7.37657780
Moldova_average
7.50797576
Romania_Dobruja
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_2
4.43947069
Romania_Crisana
4.79678017
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.10393965
Romania_Transilvania
5.20220146
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.39795332
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
5.60345429
Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.62695299
Romania_Maramures
5.91903708
Romania_average
6.34565205
Romania_Oltenia
6.39509187
Romania_Moldova_Csango
6.67349234
Romania_Banat
6.84293797
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
7.18988873
Moldova_Sud
7.27670942
Moldova_Centru
7.37657780
Moldova_average
7.50797576
Romania_Dobrogea
7.81120349
Romania_Muntenia
8.82008503
Bulgarian
10.00119493
Moldova_Nord
11.33274900
Moldova_Gagauzia
11.67428370
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
12.39289312
Aromanian
14.08053621
Romania_Ukrainian
14.14843454
Ukrainian_Carpathian
14.43510651
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_2
4.08525397
Romania_Crisana_Arad
4.16230705
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
4.45682623
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.70114880
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
4.90463047
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
4.93655750
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.38137529
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.38492340
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.51214114
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
5.87846068
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
5.98379478
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
6.18292811
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
6.25292731
Romania_Banat_Timis
6.77149910
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.98359506
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.24522892
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
8.74492424
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
10.78673723
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
11.67428370
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
3
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_3
5.01589474
Romania_Moldavia_South
5.02518656
Romania_average
5.06405964
Romania_Transylvania
5.17969111
Moldova_South
5.22221217
Romania_Maramures
5.25469314
Romania_Banat
5.56550088
Serb
5.57813589
Romania_Crisana
5.58258901
Montenegrin
5.67360556
Romania_Oltenia
5.71347530
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.05123128
Romania_Dobruja
6.10294191
Serb_central
6.10923891
Romania_Wallachia
6.12831135
Moldova_average
6.26889145
Moldova_Centre
6.35102354
Serb_north
6.40563814
Serb_south
6.43052097
Bosniak_Sandzak
6.43605469
Romania_Muntenia
6.44326004
Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.63746940
Bulgaria_Northwestern
7.18982615
Bulgaria_average
7.43268458
Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.44394385
Csángó-Ceangău
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_3
5.01589474
Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.02518656
Romania_average
5.06405964
Romania_Transilvania
5.17969111
Moldova_Sud
5.22221217
Romania_Maramures
5.25469314
Romania_Banat
5.57813589
Romania_Crisana
5.67360556
Romania_Oltenia
5.71347530
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.05123128
Romania_Dobrogea
6.12831135
Moldova_average
6.26889145
Moldova_Centru
6.43605469
Romania_Muntenia
7.44394385
Romania_Moldova_Csango
7.67441203
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
7.75274790
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
7.78989088
Bulgarian
8.25629457
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.73150617
Moldova_Nord
9.18825881
Moldova_Gagauzia
11.80656173
Aromanian
14.34347587
Ukrainian_Carpathian
14.66474002
Romania_Ukrainian
14.83230259
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.89384157
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_3
4.68521077
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.74911571
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.84864930
Romania_Banat_Timis
5.03228576
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
5.42377175
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
5.45152272
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
5.48932601
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
5.50714990
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
5.54713440
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
5.67354387
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
5.88575399
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.06628387
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
6.21573005
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
6.71715714
Romania_Crisana_Arad
6.83253979
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
8.32246358
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.60595128
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
10.30550338
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
15.89384157
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
Ion Basescul
02-28-2021, 07:56 PM
From Timis
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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
1
22.94
26.83
18.61
10.62
16.89
2.63
0
0.74
0.12
0.11
0.52
0
0
2
26.22
24.09
16.39
9.68
18.55
1.38
1.81
0.27
0.33
1.28
0
0
0
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
23.53
23.76
18.21
11.00
19.10
2.17
0
0
1.32
0.37
0.12
0
0.42
18.25
27.74
20.29
11.12
17.52
1.91
0.40
0.90
0.63
1.24
0
0
0
24.06
28.12
17.87
5.65
19.29
1.76
0
1.51
0.37
1.04
0
0.33
0
21.77
24.15
18.41
12.23
18.17
2.49
0.97
0.05
0.85
0.90
0
0
0
23.99
25.36
15.22
15.57
13.99
1.91
1.38
0
2.57
0
0
0
0
21.71
25.42
17.45
9.79
19.16
2.28
1.14
0.44
1.47
0.82
0.33
0
0
20.09
26.81
19.78
11.97
18.06
1.00
1.80
0
0.24
0
0.24
0
0
23.27
26.87
20.21
8.86
16.34
1.91
0
0.52
0
0.92
0.59
0.51
0
20.86
28.67
19.06
9.41
17.83
1.64
0.28
1.50
0.19
0
0.13
0.43
0
20.86
28.54
16.38
13.48
15.02
2.32
0.37
0
2.60
0
0
0
0.42
21.43
24.08
16.80
12.91
20.21
3.76
0.09
0
0.35
0.08
0.29
0
0
21.78
24.90
16.48
11.17
18.52
3.16
0.41
0.89
2.64
0
0.06
0
0
21.95
23.73
16.39
9.97
20.92
3.84
0.54
0.22
0.76
1.21
0.47
0
0
23.81
25.88
18.64
12.16
15.14
1.30
0
1.15
1.33
0
0.59
0
0
24.53
25.10
18.74
10.33
17.26
1.30
0
0.91
1.60
0
0.16
0
0.08
24.75
24.97
16.15
10.82
15.93
3.22
1.56
1.04
1.40
0
0.16
0
0
23.84
24.14
18.67
9.75
18.49
1.05
2.52
0.07
0
0.89
0.54
0
0
15.36
23.25
17.19
12.10
23.07
2.37
3.13
0.92
0.49
1.40
0.73
0
0
23.76
23.58
17.11
11.98
19.05
0.95
0.72
0.35
2.27
0
0.23
0
0
24.71
28.90
14.90
13.53
15.24
1.22
0
0.38
0.72
0
0.39
0
0
24.65
26.92
15.98
7.88
20.35
0.82
0.86
1.50
0.21
0.71
0.13
0
0
21.09
25.53
18.49
13.94
15.73
2.99
0
0
0.27
1.17
0.77
0
0
30.41
27.05
20.44
6.95
10.68
0
0.86
1.19
0.29
1.20
0
0.93
0
22.32
23.43
17.89
14.79
15.03
1.54
1.77
0.71
0
1.45
0.69
0.39
0
28.01
26.21
14.84
10.98
15.81
0.63
0
0.08
2.14
1.01
0.29
0
0
22.96
26.89
17.60
12.74
13.30
2.49
0
0.74
2.18
1.11
0
0
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1
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_1
2.18474255
Romania_average
2.29037115
Romania_Banat
2.30169503
Moldova_South
2.53059282
Montenegrin
2.53594164
Romania_Oltenia
2.54249877
Romania_Transylvania
2.55092140
Romania_Moldavia_South
2.62549043
Serb_south
2.82962895
Bulgaria_Northwestern
3.06182952
Bosniak_Sandzak
3.16793308
Romania_Dobruja
3.18031445
Romania_Wallachia
3.60853156
Romania_Maramures
3.61408356
Romania_Crisana
3.63736168
Romania_Muntenia
3.67352692
Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.24471436
Bulgaria_average
4.33465108
Serb
4.54821943
Serb_central
4.67260099
Bulgaria_Northcentral
5.08277483
Pomak_Bulgaria
5.18591361
Bulgaria_Southcentral
5.77467748
Serb_north
5.82379601
Romania_Moldavia_North
6.07112016
Bulgaria_Northeastern
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_1
2.18474255
Romania_average
2.29037115
Romania_Banat
2.30169503
Moldova_Sud
2.53594164
Romania_Oltenia
2.54249877
Romania_Transilvania
2.55092140
Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.16793308
Romania_Dobrogea
3.60853156
Romania_Maramures
3.61408356
Romania_Crisana
3.63736168
Romania_Muntenia
4.74935785
Bulgarian
5.82379601
Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.28576169
Moldova_average
6.63364153
Moldova_Centru
7.28328909
Moldova_Gagauzia
8.00661601
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
8.42376400
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.92670712
Aromanian
9.18215661
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.24554487
Romania_Moldova_Csango
9.95217564
Moldova_Nord
15.07834208
Romania_Ukrainian
15.25011475
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.39511286
Ukrainian_Carpathian
15.91504320
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_1
2.15232433
Romania_Banat_Timis
2.20827987
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
2.30297634
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
2.35182908
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
2.82402195
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
3.02084425
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.02251551
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
3.52266944
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
3.52461345
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.59720725
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
3.75837731
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
4.71513520
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
4.96827938
Romania_Crisana_Arad
5.50409847
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
5.58206951
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
8.65569177
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
9.84258096
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
10.61327000
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
15.91504320
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
2
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_2
3.69854025
Romania_Transylvania
3.72298268
Montenegrin
3.76885924
Romania_Crisana
3.85280417
Romania_Moldavia_South
3.88603911
Romania_Oltenia
3.99928744
Bosniak_Sandzak
4.25678282
Romania_average
4.49929995
Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.61093266
Romania_Banat
4.69884028
Romania_Wallachia
4.75313581
Serb_south
4.99600841
Romania_Dobruja
5.11399061
Romania_Muntenia
5.25091421
Bulgaria_Northwestern
5.49724476
Bulgaria_average
5.66214624
Moldova_South
5.81093796
Romania_Maramures
5.96215565
Bulgaria_Northcentral
6.25344705
Bulgaria_Southcentral
6.32088601
Bulgaria_Northeastern
6.37531176
Serb_central
6.38390946
Macedonian_North
6.64825541
Serb
6.79649174
Macedonian_average
7.47260999
Romania_Moldavia_North
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_2
3.69854025
Romania_Transilvania
3.76885924
Romania_Crisana
3.85280417
Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.88603911
Romania_Oltenia
4.25678282
Romania_average
4.61093266
Romania_Banat
4.99600841
Romania_Dobrogea
5.11399061
Romania_Muntenia
5.66214624
Moldova_Sud
5.80752099
Bulgarian
5.81093796
Romania_Maramures
7.47260999
Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.94750904
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
8.51556222
Moldova_Gagauzia
8.53647468
Aromanian
8.63258362
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
8.89685900
Moldova_average
8.97327699
Moldova_Centru
9.26261302
Romania_Suceava_Botosani
9.80817006
Romania_Moldova_Csango
12.60800143
Moldova_Nord
13.19089459
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
16.60014759
Romania_Ukrainian
16.92786165
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.09706408
Ukrainian_Carpathian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Timis_2
2.37223523
Romania_Crisana_Arad
2.98077171
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov
3.46886148
Romania_Transylvania_Alba
3.98257454
Romania_Transylvania_Mures
4.15689788
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj
4.26696614
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin
4.29973255
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara
4.46540032
Romania_Crisana_Bihor
4.59197125
Romania_Banat_Timis
4.67497594
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu
4.91011202
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare
5.26794077
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud
6.50052306
Romania_Maramures_Maramures
7.19611701
Romania_Transylvania_Covasna
8.13877755
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma
8.40342192
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
8.50165866
Romania_Crisana_Salaj
11.24975555
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
13.19089459
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon
</tbody>
aherne
03-01-2021, 05:52 AM
Target: Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 0.8493% / 0.84933619 | R3P
49.6 Greek_Thessaly
34.9 North_Kannadi
15.5 Armenian
I guess Kannadi is Kannada? That's a Dravidian language spoken in the state of Karnataka, Southern India. However, the Indian part of the Gypsy ethnogenesis is said to have come from low-caste tribes of Northwestern India. So I guess they were racially Dravidian with little to no Steppe.
The ancestors of the Gypsies came to Southeastern Europe from Northern India through Pakistan, Iran and Anatolia, as far as I know.
Sample is absurd! They should calculate distances from home region (Punjab, Rajasthan) rather than some Indian province far away. Looks wise their ancestry should be more NW Indian than European but not that much (60% vs 40%).
Sample is absurd! They should calculate distances from home region (Punjab, Rajasthan) rather than some Indian province far away. Looks wise their ancestry should be more NW Indian than European but not that much (60% vs 40%).
Nothing absurd about it. It's just a model, an oracle. But it does show their APPROXIMATE admixture. I mean go find me another ethnic group which can be modeled like that.
This sample is very Northern. See his low East Med and lack of Red Sea. Also 30% NA, 20% West Med and 27% Baltic is quite high too.
30.41 27.05 20.44 6.95 10.68 0 0.86 1.19 0.29 1.20 0 0.93 0
Ion Basescul
03-01-2021, 07:30 AM
This sample is very Northern. See his low East Med and lack of Red Sea. Also 30% NA, 20% West Med and 27% Baltic is quite high too.
And? There are others who are on the contrary very Southern for the county. In this case, it must mean that at some point they've mixed with assimilated Hungarians or Swabians, given the location.
And? There are others who are on the contrary very Southern for the county. In this case, it must mean that at some point they've mixed with assimilated Hungarians or Swabians, given the location.
Just pointed that out. If I start pointing out the most Southern ones, people would think I'm taking the piss out of Romanians or something like that :D
Ion Basescul
03-01-2021, 07:59 AM
Just pointed that out. If I start pointing out the most Southern ones, people would think I'm taking the piss out of Romanians or something like that :D
Such people are mentally ill. There's nothing wrong with deviating from the average in either direction.
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