R1a Is Not From Yamnaya Culture But From Sredny Stog Culture

[Kmakkmak]

Sredny Stog Culture is Proto-Indo-European?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sredny_Stog_culture


A genetic study published in Nature in February 2018 included an analysis of a male buried at Alexandria, Ukraine ca. 4000 BC.[8] This site is ascribed to the Sredny Stog culture.[9] He was found to be carrying the paternal haplogroup R1a1a1 (R1a-Z93, probably one of its earliest known members[10])[9] and the maternal haplogroup H2a1a.[8] He carried about 80% Western Steppe Herder (WSH) ancestry and about 20% Early European Farmer (EEF) ancestry.[9]

[Kmakkmak]

Are there any idea for this?

[Kyp]

muh forefather

[Kmakkmak]

muh forefather

What is muh?

[Kyp]

What is muh?

my*

[Kmakkmak]

my*

What do you think about this question?

[PaleoEuropean]

R1a is from the Maykop culture which also spread my MTDNA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maykop_culture

[Kyp]

What do you think about this question?

I don't know. Haplogroups are not my expertise.

[Kmakkmak]

R1a is from the Maykop culture which also spread my MTDNA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maykop_culture

Maykop is late than Sredny Stog and yamnaya have no R1a rich.

[PaleoEuropean]

Maykop is late than Sredny Stog and yamnaya have no R1a rich.

The Maykop some how became North Corded and cucked the yamnaya though

[Immanenz]

Sredny Stog Culture is Proto-Indo-European?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sredny_Stog_culture


A genetic study published in Nature in February 2018 included an analysis of a male buried at Alexandria, Ukraine ca. 4000 BC.[8] This site is ascribed to the Sredny Stog culture.[9] He was found to be carrying the paternal haplogroup R1a1a1 (R1a-Z93, probably one of its earliest known members[10])[9] and the maternal haplogroup H2a1a.[8] He carried about 80% Western Steppe Herder (WSH) ancestry and about 20% Early European Farmer (EEF) ancestry.[9]

Western Steppe Herder= Yamnaya

[Kmakkmak]

WSHs are considered descended from Eastern Hunter-Gatherers (EHGs) who received some admixture from Caucasian Hunter-Gatherers (CHGs) during the Neolithic. The Y-DNA of the WSHs was mostly types of R1a and R1b, which are EHG lineages, suggesting that CHG admixture among the WSHs came through EHG males mixing with CHG females.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Steppe_Herders

[Kmakkmak]

Western Steppe Herder= Yamnaya

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/03/was-ukraineeneolithic-i6561-proto-indo.html

[PaleoEuropean]

WSHs are considered descended from Eastern Hunter-Gatherers (EHGs) who received some admixture from Caucasian Hunter-Gatherers (CHGs) during the Neolithic. The Y-DNA of the WSHs was mostly types of R1a and R1b, which are EHG lineages, suggesting that CHG admixture among the WSHs came through EHG males mixing with CHG females.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Steppe_Herders

You can find Haplogroup G and J wherever you find R1b or A at the same levels as Caucasian MTNDA though, so that theory is subject to debate.

[Kmakkmak]

You can find Haplogroup G and J wherever you find R1b or A at the same levels as Caucasian MTNDA though, so that theory is subject to debate.

G and J is from Caucasian or/and Anatolian input.

[Immanenz]

WSHs are considered descended from Eastern Hunter-Gatherers (EHGs) who received some admixture from Caucasian Hunter-Gatherers (CHGs) during the Neolithic. The Y-DNA of the WSHs was mostly types of R1a and R1b, which are EHG lineages, suggesting that CHG admixture among the WSHs came through EHG males mixing with CHG females.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Steppe_Herders
I know. Yamnaya North was r1a with predominance of EHG, Yamnaya South was R1b and slightly more CHG shifted.
Yamnaya North became Corded ware, while Yamnaya South became later the Bell Beakers, visible through the contrasting dominance of haplogroup, R1a= Corded, R1b = Bell beakers

[PaleoEuropean]

Maykop were also the purest Steppe people, Yamnaya were a mixed bag of people and subcultures, they were never a singular entity.

https://i.imgur.com/kUASG2s.jpg




https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08220-8

[Kmakkmak]

Maykop were also the purest Steppe people, Yamnaya were a mixed bag of people and subcultures, they were never a singular entity.

https://i.imgur.com/kUASG2s.jpg




https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08220-8

Pontic steppe
Its burial practices resemble the burial practices described in the Kurgan hypothesis of Marija Gimbutas, has been regarded by some as an Indo-European intrusion from the Pontic steppe into the Caucasus.[by whom?] However, according to J.P. Mallory,

... where the evidence for barrows is found, it is precisely in regions which later demonstrate the presence of non-Indo-European populations.[9]

The culture has been described as, at the very least, a "kurganized" local culture with strong ethnic and linguistic links to the descendants of the Proto-Indo-Europeans. It has been linked to the Lower Mikhaylovka group and Kemi Oba culture, and more distantly, to the Globular Amphora and Corded Ware cultures, if only in an economic sense. Yet, according to Mallory,

Such a theory, it must be emphasized, is highly speculative and controversial although there is a recognition that this culture may be a product of at least two traditions: the local steppe tradition embraced in the Novosvobodna culture and foreign elements from south of the Caucasus which can be charted through imports in both regions.[10]

[Kmakkmak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maykop_culture

[Synapsid]

The Maykop some how became North Corded and cucked the yamnaya though

Which maykops are talking about?
Steppe Maykops is Khavalysk (Steppe Eneolithic)+ANE+10% Kennewick man (North Amerind like)
Maykops culture pred. CHG+Anatolia Neolithic

Neither Influenced Europeans much

[PaleoEuropean]

Which maykops are talking about?
Steppe Maykops is Khavalysk (Steppe Eneolithic)+ANE+10% Kennewick man (North Amerind like)
Maykops culture pred. CHG+Anatolia Neolithic

Neither Influenced Europeans much

The Steppe Maykop is overwhelmingly Steppe and a Proto-Corded culture

https://indo-european.eu/2020/03/fully-steppe-like-proto-corded-ware-late-trypillians/

[Kmakkmak]

The Steppe Maykop is overwhelmingly Steppe and a Proto-Corded culture

https://indo-european.eu/2020/03/fully-steppe-like-proto-corded-ware-late-trypillians/

Proto-Indo-European have no R1a from Yamnaya. Sredny Stog is must ancestor of R1a of Proto-Indo-European.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/03/was-ukraineeneolithic-i6561-proto-indo.html