Classify Crimean Tatar girl from Romania (Dobruja)

[Impaler]

https://i.ibb.co/1LNjt4b/ergregeg.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
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https://i.ibb.co/1XqDJ36/iopoip.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/chYLcqc/iuoiuo.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/4RcyHjv/oiujoiuo.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/7XprMqh/oiuou.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/1KKG8fd/rewrewr.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/8zXYn51/Untitled.png (https://imgbb.com/)

[Kivan]

Tungid.

[itilvolga]

Aralid

[Chris596]

I'm not an expert but I think Aralid. How many tatars are in Romania in reality?
Btw Impaler, did you see my pm? I've sent you the pictures of the phenotypes :)

[Thambi]

Aralid

passes in kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, mongolia, parts of china, korea, and americas

[Speedy Freedy]

Turanid.

[aherne]

Good looking Thai (a rarity)... Actually, she looks far closer to Yakuts

[Kyp]

Turanid

Shes not mongoloid enough for Aralid, Tungid etc.

[TheForeigner]

She looks quite heavily Mongoloid to me. I don't know what the exact definition of Turanid is. She looks at least half Mongoloid. This is not rare for the Tatars in my region of Dobruja. It's the rule actually, which is why I doubt they are only between 25 and 33% Mongoloid, as stated by a Turkish member.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Aralid

passes in kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, mongolia, parts of china, korea, and americas

This, she really looks like an intermediary between CEntral-North Asian and Native American

[Kyp]

She looks quite heavily Mongoloid to me. I don't know what the exact definition of Turanid is. She looks at least half Mongoloid. This is not rare for the Tatars in my region of Dobruja. It's the rule actually, which is why I doubt they are only between 25 and 33% Mongoloid, as stated by a Turkish member.

She looks 30% Mongoloid at best. Would guess her as Mexican indeed.
Definetly not Aralid or anything close:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/sRL6UqavphX-3xhdohKhMxxVK9EoiVR1iq1cYYLVrW7IMKTcKF-Tb6aEZ2n_z-oPvp7xT_JLlX6Q68DuACI

[Cumansky]

She look like one of my ex Half Sioux Half Austro Hungarian

[Kyp]

Tungid.

You sure?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/0VhENjnNGMaVHkg06KVLiIaI9pz3MTy_rdkCGEiAzCEQqVY-7ERxwv7DPJb03u2i_sBmTmWZUKyXNcJ3vFY_qhOxvGU

[Trouble]

She looks 30% Mongoloid at best. Would guess her as Mexican indeed.
Definetly not Aralid or anything close:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/sRL6UqavphX-3xhdohKhMxxVK9EoiVR1iq1cYYLVrW7IMKTcKF-Tb6aEZ2n_z-oPvp7xT_JLlX6Q68DuACI

Doesnt look remotely latin american. She looks fully mongoloid

[Kyp]

Doesnt look remotely latin american. She looks fully mongoloid

You mean OP?
No she doesn't look fully mongoloid. And she isn't. Troll.

[Universe]

She just looks Central Asian to me. Atypical look among Crimean Tatars.

[Nurzat]

She just looks Central Asian to me. Atypical look among Crimean Tatars.

quite the contrary - Tatars in Romania, who are part of the Crimean Tatars (that were living from Crimea to Budjak to Dobrudja), more often look like that than they don't. on average they also have high Siberian, 25-35%

if you've been to seaside in Romania you must have noticed it. you're Romanian Hungarian/Szekely, right?

[Universe]

you're Romanian Hungarian/Szekely, right?

no, I am from hungary, and have ancestry exclusively from present-day Hungary since early 18th century.

As for the girl, from what I've seen, Crimean Tatars are rarely this mongoloid, she looks more like a Nogay. Romanian tatars could be different idk.

[ixulescu]

I'm not an expert but I think Aralid. How many tatars are in Romania in reality?


About 25,000 Tatars live in Dobrogea. They are aware of their ancestry and are Muslims.

However, close to 1 million people from South Eastern Romania might have some Tatar ancestry (5 to 15% Tatar ancestry). They might or might not be aware of it, because it can go very deep in the past to Cumans and Pechenegs. They consider themselves Romanian and are Christians.

[Seya]

She just looks Central Asian to me. Atypical look among Crimean Tatars.

It’s a common look for a romanian tatars. They do look central asian for the most part

[Ion Basescul]

no, I am from hungary, and have ancestry exclusively from present-day Hungary since early 18th century.

As for the girl, from what I've seen, Crimean Tatars are rarely this mongoloid, she looks more like a Nogay. Romanian tatars could be different idk.

There are 3 types of Tatars in Crimea (in yellow).

https://i.imgur.com/gbbHoDP.png

[Sora]

Aralid

Can pass in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan(North), Russia(North Caucasus 'as Nogai' & Tatarstan), Belarusia & Poland (Lipka Tatar), Turkey(Yörük)

[KirillMazur]

I have never seen Tatars with a similar degree of Mongoloidness in Crimea. Maybe they exist, but only in the internal steppe regions of the peninsula.
She looks like Nogay or Kazakh, sometimes Bashkirs of this type are found. Aralid most likely.

[Seya]

I have never seen Tatars with a similar degree of Mongoloidness in Crimea. Maybe they exist, but only in the internal steppe regions of the peninsula.
She looks like Nogay or Kazakh, sometimes Bashkirs of this type are found. Aralid most likely.

Maybe they’re mixed in Crimea?

[Freeroostah]

Pred Turanid <3

Kinda resembles a Khmer girl I knew from college

[KirillMazur]

Maybe they’re mixed in Crimea?
There are 2 types of Crimean Tatars - Oguz origin (southern coast of Crimea), quite similar to the Turks, the language too. And the Kypchak Tatars, who live in the northern and central parts of the peninsula, have a language close to Kazakh and Volga-Tatar. All of them (Kipchaks) in one way or another have a noticeable Central Asian component in appearance.
Both groups mix very rarely with the Slavs.

[Voskos]

I classify her as fully caucasoid

[Seya]

There are 2 types of Crimean Tatars - Oguz origin (southern coast of Crimea), quite similar to the Turks, the language too. And the Kypchak Tatars, who live in the northern and central parts of the peninsula, have a language close to Kazakh and Volga-Tatar. All of them (Kipchaks) in one way or another have a noticeable Central Asian component in appearance.
Both groups mix very rarely with the Slavs.

yes, so you have seen central asian looking tatars before :D

[KirillMazur]

yes, so you have seen central asian looking tatars before :D
Yeah:). But this girl is still too Asian shifted even by their standards.
Maybe the rule works here - the more distant the village, the "cleaner" and closer to the original steppe look the Kypchaks.

[Nomad]

She can pass as Nogai.Some Turco-Mongolian tribes migrated to Dobruja,North Caucasia and Turkey.

[Benim]

Aralid, ancient cuman/pecheneg look.

[Seya]

Yeah:). But this girl is still too Asian shifted even by their standards.
Maybe the rule works here - the more distant the village, the "cleaner" and closer to the original steppe look the Kypchaks.

some more romanian tatars..
are these ones more similar to crimean tatars?
https://i.imgur.com/zlN07cl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Tem8JUZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AQPUy8y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7kEWhEB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/X970Fk9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3QbGc4T.png
https://i.imgur.com/GGhNnUi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mPkfTLk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gGIwZ2L.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QgNNkQ5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uWxOQVD.jpg

[aherne]

She's atypical for looking pure Siberian. Tatars of Romania:

https://www.ziuaconstanta.ro/images/stories/2015/12/10/rodica/proteste_udttmr.jpg

The first four are typical Romanian faces. Those next three on the right are unpassable... It's exactly what one expects for an ethnic group that is basically 35% Mongoloid, 65% Balkan.

[Wild North]

https://i.ibb.co/1LNjt4b/ergregeg.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
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https://i.ibb.co/1XqDJ36/iopoip.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/chYLcqc/iuoiuo.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/4RcyHjv/oiujoiuo.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/7XprMqh/oiuou.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/1KKG8fd/rewrewr.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/8zXYn51/Untitled.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Very Asian influenced.

[Kmakkmak]

She look like Proto-Turkic.

[KirillMazur]

some more romanian tatars..
are these ones more similar to crimean tatars?
It turned out to be quite difficult to find a pronounced Mongoloid appearance among the Crimean Tatars. For the most part, they look like Turks or minimally Mongoloid Turkmen. Many of them are sure that they are partially descendants of the Goths. Perhaps Slavic influence, but I'm very not sure about this.
I couldn’t get to their too distant villages at the time, there wasn’t enough gasoline:)).
Romanian Tatars are pure Kipchaks compared to ours.
https://i.postimg.cc/50rLdYXr/0311161738345489.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/cLfmRmvL/0711499530056bfe.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/RV6GF99f/1413299729-1338891750-photo42.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/gkT5SNcy/1519.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/Cx8vv0QY/216005-768x385.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/HxdPcN3m/430745.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/25ptmyZV/43101-700x393.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/z3ZhvsSS/4994341-imagelmmimpjdjsch.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/02bXwDGz/504849-50.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/qqYLLDcz/646133-800.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/zXB6F9NX/6a2eb6a24526764806ce654a6ea438e8.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/8kwxWTq0/6c1fa3cbdd99985d40ccee6c819b1349169092.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/gcwBw3Hn/7df1dc5a0da27dcd156cf98803ed9e2f.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/Jn0Z2czJ/800xk02xhsp6mi8.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/d1VjKc4h/jelyzara-zakiryjaeva-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/bvT9MwHX/kry-mskie.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The Goths influenced ones can be found here - http://top-antropos.com/rating/item/350-samye-krasivye-krymskie-tatarki

[Speedy Freedy]

It turned out to be quite difficult to find a pronounced Mongoloid appearance among the Crimean Tatars. For the most part, they look like Turks or minimally Mongoloid Turkmen. Many of them are sure that they are partially descendants of the Goths. Perhaps Slavic influence, but I'm very not sure about this.
I couldn’t get to their too distant villages at the time, there wasn’t enough gasoline:)).
Romanian Tatars are pure Kipchaks compared to ours.
https://i.postimg.cc/50rLdYXr/0311161738345489.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/cLfmRmvL/0711499530056bfe.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/RV6GF99f/1413299729-1338891750-photo42.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/gkT5SNcy/1519.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/Cx8vv0QY/216005-768x385.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/HxdPcN3m/430745.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/25ptmyZV/43101-700x393.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/z3ZhvsSS/4994341-imagelmmimpjdjsch.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/02bXwDGz/504849-50.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/qqYLLDcz/646133-800.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/zXB6F9NX/6a2eb6a24526764806ce654a6ea438e8.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/8kwxWTq0/6c1fa3cbdd99985d40ccee6c819b1349169092.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/gcwBw3Hn/7df1dc5a0da27dcd156cf98803ed9e2f.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/Jn0Z2czJ/800xk02xhsp6mi8.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/d1VjKc4h/jelyzara-zakiryjaeva-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/bvT9MwHX/kry-mskie.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The Goths influenced ones can be found here - http://top-antropos.com/rating/item/350-samye-krasivye-krymskie-tatarki

Among the Crimean Tatars in Crimea can also be found people who look like pure Kypchaks, for example Ayshe Seitmuratova:
https://i.imgur.com/9S9SeWA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XJchhlY.jpg

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D 1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0,_%D0%90%D0%B9%D1%88%D0%B5

[Laag]

Looks Turkish

[Chelubey]

Big phenotypic varieties among Tatars, Nogais are possibly due to the recent infusion of Turkicized Mongol tribes into their composition (12-17th century). Those who named here "pure Kypchaks" - are probably their direct descendants. It is believed that the Nogais are of Mongolian origin at start. At least read Wikipedia before you start fantasizing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nogais

[CaucasianTurk]

Looks Turkish

not at all. maybe she could pass as 1/2 turkish 1/2 mongolian. but she couldnt pass native in turkey

[Fedora]

There are two types of Crieman Tatars, one who scores 35%++ mongoloid who speak a kazakh like dialect and the central and coastal ones who score 3%-10% and speak a dialect close to anatolian turkish dialect.

https://docplayer.net/docs-images/81/84680564/images/4-0.jpg
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5cf7cf8e1826bde37509bc6feb4be80e

[Dunai]

To me she looks more Mongoloid than Turanid, as I could see her fit easily in East-Central Asia. Dobrudja Tatars seem to be the most Mongoloid phenotype people in Europe.

[Wild North]

There are two types of Crieman Tatars, one who scores 35%++ mongoloid who speak a kazakh like dialect and the central and coastal ones who score 3%-10% and speak a dialect close to anatolian turkish dialect.

https://docplayer.net/docs-images/81/84680564/images/4-0.jpg
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5cf7cf8e1826bde37509bc6feb4be80e

Are those Crimean Tatars, living in the central- and coastal parts less mongoloid/turanid ? Are these Tatars (Central and Southern) more mixed with others, such as Slavs, Armenians and Greeks ?

[Zanzibar]

Looks SE Asian like Thai or Indonesian lol.

[Ion Basescul]

some more romanian tatars..
are these ones more similar to crimean tatars?



yep, just like in Romania there are some that are very East Asian-looking, others more Central Asian, mixed and finally pretty much identical to the host population. I've been to Crimea for 6 summers and have seen it all.
This is a local Crimean Tatar channel, where you can see said diversity: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqvJ1beI8TNlzP-Q7A2wVw/videos

[Zanzibar]

Aralid

passes in kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, mongolia, parts of china, korea, and americas

Nah, she looks really SE Asian. I don't think she pass in those places. If you visit SE Asia, a lot of them look like her.

[aherne]

Dobrudja Tatars seem to be the most Mongoloid phenotype people in Europe.

They definitely aren't. How about those from Republic of Kalmykia, Russia? They are generally 100% Mongoloid both in looks and genetic oracles

[Jaromir]

bump

[placebo]

not turanid she looks more mongoloid than turanid.