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chociprasa
04-10-2020, 01:10 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUwrtotXQAEfDOH?format=jpg&name=medium
more N Atlantid than Anatolian Atlantids for sure
WeirdLookingFellow
04-10-2020, 01:17 PM
Chad that cannot be contained within the fealty limitations of phenotype classification.
Tooting Carmen
04-10-2020, 01:36 PM
Faelid
Balto-Nordid in Bunak's scheme probably pass as North-Pontid type or simple Baltid.
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 02:57 PM
Robust North Pontid
North Atlantid + West Baltid.
He is perfect! 10/10!
:smilie_liebe9:
:pinklove:
Benyzero
04-10-2020, 03:35 PM
North Atlantid + West Baltid.
He is perfect! 10/10!
:smilie_liebe9:
:pinklove:
naughty feiichy xD
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 03:38 PM
North Atlantid + West Baltid.
He is perfect! 10/10!
:smilie_liebe9:
:pinklove:
North Atlantid because he is good looking?
North Atlantid because he is good looking?��
Because sounds better than North Pontid.
Anyway North Atlantid is the British Isles type and can't be found anywhere outside of NW Europe.
https://i.imgur.com/3WE7hUA.jpg
The same for "Faelid". German anthropologists used this term only in relation to the German population.
Satem
04-10-2020, 03:46 PM
Robust North Pontid
This
Why did he become viral?
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 03:46 PM
Anyway North Atlantid is the British Isles type and can't be found anywhere outside of NW Europe. The same for "Faelid". German anthropologists used this term only in relation to the German population.
Well, Faelid is a unreduced Cm with Nordic form, that is to separate from Troender, Kurganoid, Brunn etc.
North Atlantid is Atlanto Med/ Hallstatt blend
North Pontid is Pontid/ East Nordid blend, but sometimes there can be an overlapp as both are essentially Nordid and Med forms
Anyway North Atlantid is the British Isles type and can't be found anywhere outside of NW Europe.
https://i.imgur.com/3WE7hUA.jpg
The same for "Faelid". German anthropologists used this term only in relation to the German population.
This Russian doesn't look Slavic, he will pass as white American without any problem.
And Faelid is present in eastern Europe due to migrations of Germans trough centuries.
Also, this man has no Pontid influence whatsoever. Atlantids are more robust, sharper featured and darker haired than Pontids.
His jaw shape and features are way more in atlantid than pontid spectrum.
This Russian doesn't look Slavic
He looks Russian probably he doesn't look like your Slavic.
He looks Russian probably he doesn't look like your Slavic.
No he doesn't, he is extremely rare looking for a Russian. Nice try to present this as your common look, though.
Such extremely handsome men are 1% of population everywhere, and nothing in his features is eastern European.
Nobody would guess him as a Russian if his ethnicity wasn't revealed, that's for sure.
Also, pitch black hair and such heavy, thick eyebrows are completely un-Russian looking plus his angular features.
He is just handsome, if he was not Laag would call him a wog.
Funny how everyone is fast to claim beautiful people.
Looks like this example of North Pontid type from Bunak.
https://i.imgur.com/cZlptAi.jpg
Terminator98
04-10-2020, 03:57 PM
Anyway North Atlantid is the British Isles type and can't be found anywhere outside of NW Europe.
https://i.imgur.com/3WE7hUA.jpg
The same for "Faelid". German anthropologists used this term only in relation to the German population.
Yeah, because in area of 20,30 or 50 millions people, all of them look exactly the same. :picard2::picard1:
He is handsome, I would have guessed him southern european
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 04:11 PM
Also, pitch black hair and such heavy, thick eyebrows are completely un-Russian looking plus his angular features.
He is just handsome, if he was not Laag would call him a wog.
Funny how everyone is fast to claim beautiful people.
I actually saw a few Finns/ Russians with thick eyebrows
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 04:13 PM
Also, this man has no Pontid influence whatsoever. Atlantids are more robust, sharper featured and darker haired than Pontids.
His jaw shape and features are way more in atlantid than pontid spectrum.
But East Nordids are sharper feautered than Hallstatt- thats why this is so tricky!
KirillMazur
04-10-2020, 04:21 PM
North Pontid+CM.
Not the most common type, but can be found everywhere in Russia.
And again this idiotic statement - "if you are handsome, you can't be Eastern - only Western".
North Pontid+CM.
Not the most common type, but can be found everywhere in Russia.
And again this idiotic statement - "if you are handsome, you can't be Eastern - only Western".
Southern/Eastern Europeans have an inferiority complex to Western Europeans this is obvious.
Either robust North Pontid or North Atlantid, I can't decide. Here he is in color:
https://i.imgur.com/XfYWWcy.jpg
I-man therefore pan-north European
(y-dna)
Ymyyakhtakh
04-10-2020, 05:18 PM
I think it looks bad how he has dark areas around the eyes, so he looks like he's wearing eyeshadow. It's better when the skin of the eyelids is not dark at all.
No he doesn't, he is extremely rare looking for a Russian. Nice try to present this as your common look, though.
Such extremely handsome men are 1% of population everywhere, and nothing in his features is eastern European.
Nobody would guess him as a Russian if his ethnicity wasn't revealed, that's for sure.
Today's stereotypical "Slav" look didn't exist even during WW2.
People just looked different when they were not yet being soft killed by the Jews, and when their sperm counts had not yet fallen 90%. People had more robust facial skeletons and thicker hair when their gonads had not yet been fried. (Both of those are Mongoloid features BTW, and don't Western Europeans always say how Northeast Europeans look Mongoloid?)
You can find plenty of similar bishie boy B&W era Russians through Yandex's reverse image search: https://yandex.ru/images/search?source=collections&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FEUwrtotX QAEfDOH%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dmedium&rpt=imagelike.
I actually saw a few Finns/ Russians with thick eyebrows
Wog trait, according to them.
North Pontid+CM.
Not the most common type, but can be found everywhere in Russia.
And again this idiotic statement - "if you are handsome, you can't be Eastern - only Western".
Lol, please.
I posted tons of typical eastern Euro looking handsome Russians in the past.
He is just not one of them.
Nothing typicaly east slavic about him.
This is typical handsome NE European/Balto-Slav.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317755-classify-10-10-Russian-man
Southern/Eastern Europeans have an inferiority complex to Western Europeans this is obvious.
You have a complex. He is WOG for your KOMI sensitivity. But you won't insult his look because he is super attractive.
For you woggy look is ofcourse automatically ugly.
You are a hypocrite.
Either robust North Pontid or North Atlantid, I can't decide. Here he is in color:
https://i.imgur.com/XfYWWcy.jpg
Typical NE European!!!
:rofl_002::rotfl:
Aldaris
04-10-2020, 05:42 PM
North Pontid+CM.
Not the most common type, but can be found everywhere in Russia.
And again this idiotic statement - "if you are handsome, you can't be Eastern - only Western".
How would that stuff work if one is half/half? Some sort of cancellation law?
He honestly gives me a Bosnian Serb vibe.
Typical NE European!!!
:rofl_002::rotfl:
I think he's unmistakably slavic.
I think he's unmistakably slavic.
Could be French easily.
Alla Zima
04-10-2020, 06:27 PM
he reminds me a bit of Russian skier Aleksandr Terentyev
https://c.radikal.ru/c06/2004/e9/3f60b16b02c3.jpg
Terminator98
04-10-2020, 06:30 PM
he reminds me a bit of Russian skier Aleksandr Terentyev
https://c.radikal.ru/c06/2004/e9/3f60b16b02c3.jpg
Unrecognized grandson XD
Benyzero
04-10-2020, 06:51 PM
I really couldn't place this guy
Nurzat
04-10-2020, 06:53 PM
looks a bit between Ulf Kirsten and Till Lindemann or maybe not. how come he went viral? with this photo or something else?
Faelid+pontid. Looks Slavic, perhaps with some Germanic
Tommie
04-10-2020, 07:00 PM
looks a bit between Ulf Kirsten and Till Lindemann or maybe not. how come he went viral? with this photo or something else?
He probably went viral for his good looks.
Rabbit Hole
04-10-2020, 07:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUwrtotXQAEfDOH?format=jpg&name=medium
Pontid influenced i think not much Steppes there. Those eyes!
Celestia
04-10-2020, 07:22 PM
He is insanely attractive
Methuselah
04-10-2020, 07:42 PM
looks a bit between Ulf Kirsten and Till Lindemann or maybe not. how come he went viral? with this photo or something else?
Yeah or something between Josh Dun and Marian Gold. Looks quite admixed. Like if you mixed a Slav, Northern European, Southern European and added some West Asian/ MENA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Dun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Gold
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 07:50 PM
Yeah or something between Josh Dun and Marian Gold. Looks quite admixed. Like if you mixed a Slav, Northern European, Southern European and added some West Asian/ MENA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Dun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Gold
without going into ethnicities his main element is Med with a strong WHG/EHG (CM) element and Nordic input as well.
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 07:51 PM
Yeah or something between Josh Dun and Marian Gold. Looks quite admixed. Like if you mixed a Slav, Northern European, Southern European and added some West Asian/ MENA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Dun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Gold
without going into ethnicities his main element is Med with a strong WHG/EHG (CM) element and minor Nordic as well.
Methuselah
04-10-2020, 07:58 PM
without going into ethnicities his main element is Med with a strong WHG/EHG (CM) element and minor Nordic as well.
That makes sense as well.
Arsen_
04-10-2020, 08:16 PM
Actually that guy is Ukrainian. And I really cannot understand the fuss on the part of some TA women about the way he looks. To me an ordinary and absolutely unremarkable working class guy. :)
Altaison
04-10-2020, 08:37 PM
North pontid without soy diet. I guess eating less estrogenic foods made men more robust facially those days. Now, a small percentage of men have similar facial structure.
Dominator
04-10-2020, 08:38 PM
Absolutely Slavic type N. PONTID , on this forum people don’t know what EEuropeans look thank of our Jews
Rabbit Hole
04-10-2020, 08:44 PM
Actually that guy is Ukrainian. And I really cannot understand the fuss on the part of some TA women about the way he looks. To me an ordinary and absolutely unremarkable working class guy. :)
It's his eyes and bone structure more than anything else. Has a thick mane of black hair too. Black or dark hair with blue eyes is like BOMB
Rabbit Hole
04-10-2020, 08:44 PM
Probably a Cossak?
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 08:57 PM
That makes sense as well.
imo, its one of those faces that pops up once in a while in broader Northern and Centraleuro, but not typical for any country or ethnical group.
like Werner Schreyer not being represantative for Austrians or any other country imo
Altaison
04-10-2020, 09:00 PM
Looks like Turkish-German male model Atesh Salih on this photo
https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m28278dhOg1qg22hlo1_400.jpg
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 09:01 PM
North pontid without soy diet. I guess eating less estrogenic foods made men more robust facially those days. Now, a small percentage of men have similar facial structure.
dont forget the meat most people eat is fed by cheap corn or soy, not qualitiy gras etc.
also people chew not enough, good facial muscles are very important for a balanced face
Altaison
04-10-2020, 09:09 PM
dont forget the meat most people eat is fed by cheap corn or soy, not qualitiy gras etc.
also people chew not enough, good facial muscles are very important for a balanced face
Yep, but eating estrogenic foods, having high body fat reduce testosterone during puberty. So, if you have a genetic potential for male model face, you can fuck up it by high estrogenic foods.
Immanenz
04-10-2020, 09:42 PM
Yep, but eating estrogenic foods, having high body fat reduce testosterone during puberty. So, if you have a genetic potential for male model face, you can fuck up it by high estrogenic foods.
true, but if your meat that you eat is also full of estrogen?
North pontid without soy diet. I guess eating less estrogenic foods made men more robust facially those days. Now, a small percentage of men have similar facial structure.
No. North Pontid is a gracile type per definition. Nothing north Pontid about him, especially about his wide CM nose.
Absolutely Slavic type N. PONTID , on this forum people don’t know what EEuropeans look thank of our Jews
Yes, show us group photos of young east slavic men with many of his lookalike :rolleyes:
Alla Zima
04-10-2020, 10:03 PM
Actually that guy is Ukrainian. And I really cannot understand the fuss on the part of some TA women about the way he looks. To me an ordinary and absolutely unremarkable working class guy. :)
it’s fake from Ukrainian mass media. they translated the USSR as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. lol😂
«My grandfather, USSR». via Darya Barinova.
«Мой дедушка, УССР», — пояснила Дарья Баринова.
Altaison
04-10-2020, 10:15 PM
No. North Pontid is a gracile type per definition. Nothing north Pontid about him, especially about his wide CM nose.
I started to think CM thing is an assumption. They call both faelids and berids or proto iranid CM, but their genetic links are not prominent. It's just more robust features. Apart from that, he has North pontid base phenotype, in terms of coloring, CI. If you observe older generations, they had more CM looking people, but it's less observed in new generations. Does this mean their genotypes became recessive? Nope. Estrogenic diet, lack of physical activity during puberty changed these things vastly.
I started to think CM thing is an assumption. They call both faelids and berids or proto iranid CM, but their genetic links are not prominent. It's just more robust features. Apart from that, he has North pontid base phenotype, in terms of coloring, CI. If you observe older generations, they had more CM looking people, but it's less observed in new generations. Does this mean their genotypes became recessive? Nope. Estrogenic diet, lack of physical activity during puberty changed these things vastly.
Nose shape doesn't change with diet. North Pontids have long and narrow noses, his nose is wide.
KirillMazur
04-11-2020, 12:34 AM
Lol, please.
I posted tons of typical eastern Euro looking handsome Russians in the past.
He is just not one of them.
Nothing typicaly east slavic about him.
This is typical handsome NE European/Balto-Slav.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317755-classify-10-10-Russian-man
In general, he has a rather complicated type for classification. I would say that it is not typical for any country.
In the colorized version, he would rather easily pass as local in my region, maybe in some regions of the Balkans too. Definitely a Slavic type, but very atypical.
About the French - a good joke:thumb001:. I would have believed more in East German.
How would that stuff work if one is half/half? Some sort of cancellation law?
The system works by analogy with many not-so-happy families - all worthy traits in a child are inherited from the wife's side, and all unworthy ones are inherited from the husband's. According to the wife:D.
In general, he has a rather complicated type for classification. I would say that it is not typical for any country.
In the colorized version, he would rather easily pass as local in my region, maybe in some regions of the Balkans too. Definitely a Slavic type, but very atypical.
About the French - a good joke:thumb001:. I would have believed more in East German.
The system works by analogy with many not-so-happy families - all worthy traits in a child are inherited from the wife's side, and all unworthy ones are inherited from the husband's. According to the wife:D.
Typical east Germans have black hair and thick eyebrows in your opinion?
Even his eyes seem Med like.
But his facial structure is northern.
Let's agree to disagree, he's atypical everywhere indeed :)
KirillMazur
04-11-2020, 12:57 AM
Typical east Germans have black hair and thick eyebrows in your opinion?
Even his eyes seem Med like.
But his facial structure is northern.
Let's agree to disagree, he's atypical everywhere indeed :)
Why are you talking about typical East Germans - if our comrade is atypical everywhere?:D.
I meant that he would not fit west of Berlin and Ljubljana, and south of Serbia, that's all, some Eastern vibe here. His eyes are by far more like East Slavic than Iberian, and northern facial traits plays a role as well:).
Some here even don’t consider me a Russian.
PublicStranger
04-11-2020, 01:23 AM
Gives me Olivier Giroud vibes. He looks very French to me. I've only been to France a few times but I do remember seeing similar.
Arsen_
04-11-2020, 01:42 AM
it’s fake from Ukrainian mass media. they translated the USSR as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. lol😂
«My grandfather, USSR». via Darya Barinova.
«Мой дедушка, УССР», — пояснила Дарья Баринова.
Вполне возможно и так, но везде вроде пишут, что девушка, которая разместила это фото, его подписала именно так кириллицей: «Мой дед, УССР». От Дарьи Бариновой.
Смотри например здесь:
https://medialeaks.ru/0604lug-ded-krasiv/
Some here even don’t consider me a Russian.
You look very east euro/south Russian, despite being brunet.
Sorry, missed these :p
North Atlantid because he is good looking?��
No! Because his Med part looks more Atlantid than Pontid, N.Atlantids have more CM input (more square jaw, sharper features, shorter forehead...)
And such near pure black hair is much more common in atlantid than pontid types. N. Atlantid has also thicker hair, thicker eyebrows and stronger body hair in general compared to east europeans.
North Atlantid
https://i.imgur.com/Jempocr.jpg
North Pontid
https://i.imgur.com/Q4A6XAo.jpg
Because sounds better than North Pontid.
I actually prefer North Pontid type and east european men, but sorry, he just looks more north atlantid.
N.Atlantid/N.Pontid is Nordo-Med anyway, but some details and ''vibe'' are different.
North Pontid is one of original Slavic types actually, and it sure as hell has no black hair.
Black hair is completely foreign to pure eastern european Slavs.
I remember Russian posters here saying such hair color as in OP is sign of foreign ancestry among ethnic Russians.
Arsen_
04-11-2020, 02:12 AM
It's his eyes and bone structure more than anything else. Has a thick mane of black hair too. Black or dark hair with blue eyes is like BOMB
You know I never evaluate the appearance of men in terms of their attractiveness, but the way some women here squeaked from him and peed in their pants, made me look at him as if I were a woman. And I can say definitely if I were a woman I would not even notice that guy. He absolutely does not look smart and intelligent, he does not look to be a kind and pleasant guy with nice personality, etc. I can imagine him to be a good worker in the factory, a good common foot soldier in the army, a good sportsman and athlete, I can imagine him even a good criminal in jail, but a good man for woman?! Never!
You know I never evaluate the appearance of men in terms of their attractiveness, but the way some women here squeaked from him and peed in their pants, made me look at him as if I were a woman. And I can say definitely if I were a woman I would not even notice that guy. He absolutely does not look smart and intelligent, he does not look to be a kind and pleasant guy with nice personality, etc. I can imagine him to be a good worker in the factory, a good common foot soldier in the army, a good sportsman and athlete, I can imagine him even a good criminal in jail, but a good man for woman?! Never!
Jelaousy.
Speaking about hair, It's not only hair color, it's texture. He has extremely thick hair that looks wawy, really atypical for east Slav.
Such thick hair is uber wog trait.
My man has typical east european hair, ash brown, completely straight and very thin and sliky. OP is like complete opposite of that.
KirillMazur
04-11-2020, 02:17 AM
Black hair is completely foreign to pure eastern european Slavs.
I remember Russian posters here saying such hair color as in OP is sign of foreign ancestry among ethnic Russians.
This.
Light brown eyes/dark brown hair is the darkest combo among natives here.
By the way, the example of North Atlantid you posted looks almost exactly the same as my math analysis lecturer during my studying back then. Except hair color and a bit different facial expression;).
Raizen
04-11-2020, 02:21 AM
You know I never evaluate the appearance of men in terms of their attractiveness, but the way some women here squeaked from him and peed in their pants, made me look at him as if I were a woman. And I can say definitely if I were a woman I would not even notice that guy. He absolutely does not look smart and intelligent, he does not look to be a kind and pleasant guy with nice personality, etc. I can imagine him to be a good worker in the factory, a good common foot soldier in the army, a good sportsman and athlete, I can imagine him even a good criminal in jail, but a good man for woman?! Never!
You don't judge people based on their appearence.
Sorry, missed these :p
No! Because his Med part looks more Atlantid than Pontid, N.Atlantids have more CM input (more square jaw, sharper features, shorter forehead...)
And such near pure black hair is much more common in atlantid than pontid types. N. Atlantid has also thicker hair, thicker eyebrows and stronger body hair in general compared to east europeans.
North Atlantid
https://i.imgur.com/Jempocr.jpg
North Pontid
https://i.imgur.com/Q4A6XAo.jpg
I actually prefer North Pontid type and east european men, but sorry, he just looks more north atlantid.
Here is a description of North Atlantid race from Lundman:
Nordid Race: virile, more progressive, lighter in pigmentation. Three subraces: the broader-faced, more robust Faelish (Faelo-Nordid) subrace, the narrower-faced, more slender Scando-Nordid subrace, and the North- Atlantid subrace which is morphologically similar to the Scando-Nordid. The first two subraces are rather light- haired, while the North-Atlantid subrace is more dark-haired but at the same time light-eyed.
The first guy you posted can't be North Atlantid because he has broad face and he's too robust to be North Atlantid. Lundman's North Atlantid is just hair-darked Nordic withou any "CM".
The OP guy looks similar to this North Pontid man from Bunak.
https://i.imgur.com/cZlptAi.jpg
^^^^similar, lol
You're blind? And guy I posted has narrow face, nothing broad there.
Laag, he is way too hairy for NE Europe. Learn how wogs can be superior, hehe :p
I am afraid, no Komi can match this specimen.
Gives me Olivier Giroud vibes. He looks very French to me. I've only been to France a few times but I do remember seeing similar.
Olivier Giroud is of North African descent and doesn't look European at all. Looks like typical Syrian refugee.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Olivier_Giroud_2018.jpg
https://le10static.com/img/cache/article/576x324/0000/0016/160919.jpeg
https://www.sportinglife.com/images/news/945x532/2207dddc-4041-4d7b-b9eb-5191a6d7514b.jpg
Arsen_
04-11-2020, 02:31 AM
Jelaousy.
Absolutely not! I am a very objective person and I am always ready to pay tribute to everyone if they deserve it without any problems. :)
I can say in a different way about that guy, I would strongly oppose for example my sister or my daughter to pay attention to such a guy.
OP fits better in Turkey than in north Russia :)
:biggrin::kiss2001:
Absolutely not! I am a very objective person and I am always ready to pay tribute to everyone if they deserve it without any problems. :)
I can say in a different way about that guy, I would strongly oppose for example my sister or my daughter to pay attention to such a guy.
You're weird.
Olivier Giroud is of North African descent and doesn't look European at all. Looks like typical Syrian refugee.
Indeed. :lol:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/footballer-olivier-giroud-is-photographed-for-es-magazine-on-november-picture-id474196654
Arsen_
04-11-2020, 02:40 AM
You don't judge people based on their appearence.
Everyone does it, it happens on an instinctive level, regardless of your consciousness.
Arsen_
04-11-2020, 02:56 AM
You're weird.
You know maybe I am really weird but I am a type of man who treat women well, take care of them, protect women and wish them good. So if I say you that this guy is not good looking, actually I do not care about this guy! I just want to let you know that you deserve a better man! :)
Yeah, because in area of 20,30 or 50 millions people, all of them look exactly the same. :picard2::picard1:
That map from Lundman. Did you read him? I highly doubt it.
For example here is what he wrote about Southeast Europe.
The Races and Peoples of Southeast Europe
East of the Adriatic Sea lies Yugoslavia. This region is predominantly Dinarid in race. The maximum is attained in the southern part of Yugoslavia, in Herzegovina and still more in Montenegro. Other racial types are found in the poor interior Alpine mountain regions. Toward Austria the frequency of Nordid types increases. In the northeastern part of Yugoslavia East-Baltid and also East-Alpine strains are found. Albania is somewhat less Dinarid than Yugoslavia. Nordid, East-Alpine, and other strains are also present in Albania.
In Greece the Dinarids predominate only in the western part. Toward the northeast more East- Mediterraneans are found. On the Aegean islands we often encounter a rather primitive, dark, long- and low-skulled strain, probably of the Berid race. Likewise there are in Greece blond individuals, both of the Nordid and also the East Baltid race.
Bulgaria and southeastern Macedonia appear to be predominantly East-Mediterranean in race, with still unexplained Pre-Pontic, East-Baltid, and Nordid strains. Only in the western part of Bulgaria are there some Dinarids. The strikingly beautiful classical people of Old Rumania are similar in anthropological structure, although somewhat more Dinarid. The Rumanians of Transylvania show numerous Dinarid, and also East-Baltid as well as Nordid types.
Hungary is probably the most strongly racially-mixed land in Europe. However, it is predominantly East-Baltid-Carpathid in race with Dinarid strains in the western part of the country. In parts of the Pussta region in Hungary, we find rather strong Mongolid strains.
The most striking dark-haired Czechs are East-Baltid, East-Alpine and Carpathid in race, with Nordid and other strains. With regard to blood groups the Czechs and the Slovaks are not particularly similar to one another. We find a higher frequency of blood type gene p in the west among the Czechs and of blood type gene r in the east among the Slovaks.
Southwestern Poland shows similar relations. However, the East-Alpine race is predominant in this area. In eastern Galicia the Carpathids predominate, with more Dinarids in the high mountain regions.
In comparison, northern Poland, Lithuania, and the bordering parts of White Russia are somewhat blonder, although also very mixed racially. These lands are thus more East-Baltid-Nordid in race. The boundary between the more blond and the more brunet is apparently rather sharply defined. This boundary follows here in an interesting way approximately the plant-geographical boundary between the marsh-forest in the north and the more open loess lands in the south.
As you can see Alpine, Baltid and Nordid types also present in SE Europe according to Lundman but the main types are Med and Dinaric that the map shows.
Ymyyakhtakh
04-11-2020, 05:39 AM
Laag, he is way too hairy for NE Europe. Learn how wogs can be superior, hehe :p
I am afraid, no Komi can match this specimen.
What about these? I selected those photos from a pool of only a couple of photos, so it would be easy to find even more ikemen Komis from a larger pool of photos.
https://i.imgur.com/lSUOUSx.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/266522
https://i.imgur.com/bBIc9N1.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/330297
I don't see anything woggy in the morphology of the man in this thread. He has low facial index, high nasal index, a short and wide concave-ish nose, high cheekbones, a large mandible, a wide chin, rectangular orbits, supraorbital rims that are slanted inwards, positive canthal tilt, and a rectangular facial outline. All of those are Northeast European anti-wog traits. Wogs look more progressive and more like typical Caucasoids.
https://i.ibb.co/vdyZPbC/finland-vs-britain.jpg
A rectangular facial shape and a large mandible are East Baltid traits according to Coon:
"The bigonial diameter of the Finns is very broad,[103] quite equal to the standards of the Livs, and gives the Finnish face the square appearance for which it is noted. [...] Heavy mandibles, with powerful chins, are as typical of these as of other Finns."
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX11.htm
"Although the Lithuanians are clearly less Nordic morphologically than are the Letts, they are at the same time less typically East Baltic in the Finnish sense in the total contour of the face, for more elliptical and fewer rectangular shapes are found among them."
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX12.htm
I made the morphs below of the men who I thought looked the best and the worst among Estonian plates by Juhan Aul (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?291469-Plates-from-Anthropology-of-the-Estonians). The "Best 10" morph looks more East Baltid, and its features are more similar to the man in this thread. It has a wider, less elongated, and more rectangular face shape. It has higher bizygomatic width and more prominent cheekbones. Its nose is wider, shorter, more concave, and more upturned. The bridge of its nose is lower and wider. Its eyes, eyebrows, and supraorbital rims are more slanted inwards. Its mouth is wider and its subnasal segment is longer. Its chin is shorter and wider. Like the man in this thread, its forehead is also fairly short. The "Worst 10" morph looks more Northwest European or North Pontid.
https://i.imgur.com/ZSQycsV.gif
PublicStranger
04-11-2020, 06:07 AM
Olivier Giroud is of North African descent and doesn't look European at all. Looks like typical Syrian refugee.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Olivier_Giroud_2018.jpg
https://le10static.com/img/cache/article/576x324/0000/0016/160919.jpeg
https://www.sportinglife.com/images/news/945x532/2207dddc-4041-4d7b-b9eb-5191a6d7514b.jpg
You're right he doesn't look like a typical frenchman but I don't think he looks that foreign.
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Terminator98
04-11-2020, 06:17 AM
That map from Lundman. Did you read him? I highly doubt it.
For example here is what he wrote about Southeast Europe.
The Races and Peoples of Southeast Europe
East of the Adriatic Sea lies Yugoslavia. This region is predominantly Dinarid in race. The maximum is attained in the southern part of Yugoslavia, in Herzegovina and still more in Montenegro. Other racial types are found in the poor interior Alpine mountain regions. Toward Austria the frequency of Nordid types increases. In the northeastern part of Yugoslavia East-Baltid and also East-Alpine strains are found. Albania is somewhat less Dinarid than Yugoslavia. Nordid, East-Alpine, and other strains are also present in Albania.
In Greece the Dinarids predominate only in the western part. Toward the northeast more East- Mediterraneans are found. On the Aegean islands we often encounter a rather primitive, dark, long- and low-skulled strain, probably of the Berid race. Likewise there are in Greece blond individuals, both of the Nordid and also the East Baltid race.
Bulgaria and southeastern Macedonia appear to be predominantly East-Mediterranean in race, with still unexplained Pre-Pontic, East-Baltid, and Nordid strains. Only in the western part of Bulgaria are there some Dinarids. The strikingly beautiful classical people of Old Rumania are similar in anthropological structure, although somewhat more Dinarid. The Rumanians of Transylvania show numerous Dinarid, and also East-Baltid as well as Nordid types.
Hungary is probably the most strongly racially-mixed land in Europe. However, it is predominantly East-Baltid-Carpathid in race with Dinarid strains in the western part of the country. In parts of the Pussta region in Hungary, we find rather strong Mongolid strains.
The most striking dark-haired Czechs are East-Baltid, East-Alpine and Carpathid in race, with Nordid and other strains. With regard to blood groups the Czechs and the Slovaks are not particularly similar to one another. We find a higher frequency of blood type gene p in the west among the Czechs and of blood type gene r in the east among the Slovaks.
Southwestern Poland shows similar relations. However, the East-Alpine race is predominant in this area. In eastern Galicia the Carpathids predominate, with more Dinarids in the high mountain regions.
In comparison, northern Poland, Lithuania, and the bordering parts of White Russia are somewhat blonder, although also very mixed racially. These lands are thus more East-Baltid-Nordid in race. The boundary between the more blond and the more brunet is apparently rather sharply defined. This boundary follows here in an interesting way approximately the plant-geographical boundary between the marsh-forest in the north and the more open loess lands in the south.
As you can see Alpine, Baltid and Nordid types also present in SE Europe according to Lundman but the main types are Med and Dinaric that the map shows.
Yeah I did, his book, Coon's, Gunther's and book of Jan Czekanowski. I am very knowledgeable in Anthropology field since I am interested in it. These books are almost 100 years old and in reality, in my town of 20 thousand people, there is bunch of different looking people. Most of these anthropologist never visited SE Europe, they just quoted each other. Stop believing in pre WW II maps because they are plain crap. Also, start believing in combination of two types, because that's how most people look, like combination of two or even three types.
blueeyes
04-11-2020, 06:27 AM
Nothing special guy.
Balto-Pontid
Universe
04-11-2020, 07:16 AM
Olivier Giroud is of North African descent and doesn't look European at all. Looks like typical Syrian refugee.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.dc-4041-4d7b-b9eb-5191a6d7514b.jpg
No, he isn't of North African descent, don't make up stuff like that. He's super European looking actually(but has a pheno that's not common in Russia).
His beard conceals his facial features. This is him without beard:
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/38/91/0f/38910f26403e36240997814495f30283--mats-hummels-international-football.jpg
https://ethnicelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/bigstock-LONDON-ENGLAND-Oct-Olivier-Giroud-400x600.jpg
Both his face and his hairiness are atypical to Russia(Western Euros are more hairy than Russians on avarage), but he's completely normal looking in Frane.
Most of these anthropologist never visited SE Europe, they just quoted each other. Stop believing in pre WW II maps because they are plain crap.
In this case you shouldn't use all these terms "Paleo-Atlantid", "Atlantid", "Faelid" etc because they were invented by anthropologists who never visited SE Europe and who paint those crap maps.
Rabbit Hole
04-11-2020, 08:09 AM
Could be Jewish.
Not in a million years but okay lol.
Rabbit Hole
04-11-2020, 08:12 AM
You're right he doesn't look like a typical frenchman but I don't think he looks that foreign.
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This guy looks nothing like any type of Syrian. The racism on this forum is nuts sometimes and scary.
Dominator
04-11-2020, 08:31 AM
Yes, show us group photos of young east slavic men with many of his lookalike :rolleyes:
I see similar on some old black and white photos.
2 facts that this man is not western
1 his clothes
2 lack of a moronic western smile
Just imagine him in a Soviet military form and it will get clear
Terminator98
04-11-2020, 08:35 AM
In this case you shouldn't use all these terms "Paleo-Atlantid", "Atlantid", "Faelid" etc because they were invented by anthropologists who never visited SE Europe and who paint those crap maps.
I’m not a person who jerk off to above mentioned types, but it seems you are because you keep mentioning these three types (constantly). The fact that they were wrong in one thing cannot invalidate the fact that they were right in the other. Why we shouln't use the right facts and give up from the wrong ones? That's how every science works, accepting the good old facts and abandoning the stupid ones.
Terminator98
04-11-2020, 08:43 AM
In this case you shouldn't use all these terms "Paleo-Atlantid", "Atlantid", "Faelid" etc because they were invented by anthropologists who never visited SE Europe and who paint those crap maps.
I’m not a person who jerk off to above mentioned types, but it seems you are because you keep mentioning these three types (constantly). The fact that they were wrong in one thing cannot invalidate the fact that they were right in the other. Why not use the right facts and give up from the wrong ones? That's how every science works, accepting the good old facts and abandoning wrong ones.
I’m not a person who jerk off to above mentioned types, but it seems you are because you keep mentioning these three types (constantly). The fact that they were wrong in one thing cannot invalidate the fact that they were right in the other. Why we shouln't use the right facts and give up from the wrong ones? That's how every science works, accepting the good old facts and abandoning the stupid ones.
Yes, I know. Actually I've already heard that many times Bulgaria is full of Faelids and Paleo-Atlantids but anthropologists were wrong because never visited Bulgaria.
Terminator98
04-11-2020, 09:01 AM
Yes, I know. Actually I've already heard that many times Bulgaria is full of Faelids and Paleo-Atlantids but anthropologists were wrong because never visited Bulgaria.
Its pointless to talk to such a stubborn person full of inferiority complexes. Also, you seem to be extremely obsessed with Bulgaria, probably dreaming of Bulgaria every night. :lmao:lmao
Not in a million years but okay lol.
How many Jews do you know?
Immanenz
04-11-2020, 10:15 AM
Sorry, missed these :p
No! Because his Med part looks more Atlantid than Pontid, N.Atlantids have more CM input (more square jaw, sharper features, shorter forehead...)
And such near pure black hair is much more common in atlantid than pontid types. N. Atlantid has also thicker hair, thicker eyebrows and stronger body hair in general compared to east europeans.
North Atlantid
https://i.imgur.com/Jempocr.jpg
North Pontid
https://i.imgur.com/Q4A6XAo.jpg
I actually prefer North Pontid type and east european men, but sorry, he just looks more north atlantid.
well, the first guy from North Italy is Atlanto Med and Nordo-Cm mix as both types are more common- i m fine with him being North Atlantid, some authors would propably disagree
http://humanphenotypes.net/NorthAtlantid.html
btw the Polish dude on 2nd pic is indeed pred. North Pontid, he has a curved occiput that is more common for western Nordids actually (Hallstatt)97346
here are some more not so soft featured North Pontids:97345
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and Phli Neville is more of a standard North Atlantid, who does not show "cm" influences
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this whole situation shows the "average face" or "other influence" problem as Western people will have often dilutted Cm influences, while eastern will often have Neo Danubian, but if individiuals lack local stereotype influences (or of the so called "average" face) this can happen
its the same with Nordids found outside of Scandinavia, most people will realize "the other" influences like lack of robustness or some Med/Alpine/Dinarid features, rarely you ll find cases without local influences.
I often read Italian, French and German being classified as Pontid, even though they are just Alpine /Atlantid mixes, (even pure Alpines/Subnordids will be classified as Pontids by some people) this is actually here described at Nr. 3 as the population approach
http://humanphenotypes.net/methods.html
Aspirin
04-11-2020, 11:11 AM
Such face can be seen between Russians.
Aldaris
04-11-2020, 11:28 AM
The system works by analogy with many not-so-happy families - all worthy traits in a child are inherited from the wife's side, and all unworthy ones are inherited from the husband's. According to the wife:D.
:laugh:
Methuselah
04-11-2020, 04:36 PM
imo, its one of those faces that pops up once in a while in broader Northern and Centraleuro, but not typical for any country or ethnical group.
like Werner Schreyer not being represantative for Austrians or any other country imo
Werner looks like James Dean
Immanenz
04-11-2020, 08:40 PM
Werner looks like James Dean
a bit- phenotipcally too as both are mostly Atlantid with Alpine and minor Faelid.
I ve seen Russians who gave me a James Dean vibe.
Methuselah
04-11-2020, 09:08 PM
a bit- phenotipcally too as both are mostly Atlantid with Alpine and minor Faelid.
I ve seen Russians who gave me a James Dean vibe.
That is more Finnish or Swedish look to be honest, than Russian.
Aileron
04-12-2020, 11:37 AM
OP fits better in Turkey than in north Russia :)
:biggrin::kiss2001:
Indeed, he has clear med or wog influence which i dont think Russians have
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