23andme Result Predictor VS Actual 23andme Results

[RyoHazuki]

https://you.23andme.com/public/predict-my-ancestry
It's surprisingly accurate to what I actually got from them. I put France for 2 grandparents and UK for the other 2.
https://i.imgur.com/8xXSwhh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[gixajo]

Lamentably, I still haven´t done any test with 23andMe.

With 4 grandparents from Spain this is my prediction:

https://i.imgur.com/TSm81cy.png

[Benyzero]

I would be half askenazi

[RyoHazuki]

Lamentably, I still haven´t done any test with 23andMe.

With 4 grandparents from Spain this is my prediction:

https://i.imgur.com/TSm81cy.png

Hopefully they allow an upload option sometime in the future again. They did it for one time only a few years ago.

[Slavic Italian]

It only takes into consideration of four recent grandparents and ancestry is more complicated than that.

[RyoHazuki]

It only takes into consideration of four recent grandparents and ancestry is more complicated than that.

It assigns recent admix proportions to different countries based on averages for each. So its really not _that_ far off. In my case it really isn't.

[Ion Basescul]

It assigns recent admix proportions to different countries based on averages for each. So its really not _that_ far off. In my case it really isn't.

It is very far off for some countries. 50% Ashkenazi for Moldova, which means that they tested disproportionately compared to the rest of the population.

[RyoHazuki]

It is very far off for some countries. 50% Ashkenazi for Moldova, which means that they tested disproportionately compared to the rest of the population.

Probably way more Eastern European Ashkenazis to pull from than Moldovans willing to take DNA tests.

[gixajo]

Hopefully they allow an upload option sometime in the future again. They did it for one time only a few years ago.

I want to make the 23andMe saliva test directly, but I have just purchased 2 MH kits for my parents, so I will wait a little before doing it.

[Slavic Italian]

It assigns recent admix proportions to different countries based on averages for each. So its really not _that_ far off. In my case it really isn't.

It can be quite far off. Don't kid yourself.

[RyoHazuki]

It can be quite far off. Don't kid yourself.

I didn't say that it couldn't be . But it wasn't the case for me or likely for people who've had more homogenized families up to their grandparents generation. Obviously ancestry going beyond 1/4 can't be calculated, but it's not always that way for everyone.

[El_Abominacion]

Prediction

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200412/8bc799e1abe8ab6ef5bac3fb3f87522e.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200412/ba898d4f42e84208d469b2b1c18e59df.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200412/32025e09a43c620951a4536e2b436651.jpg

In comparison with V5

https://you.23andme.com/published/reports/eea3db7400c44f6a/?share_id=fcf635ea89e44227

And V4

https://you.23andme.com/published/reports/91937360e8b342fd/?share_id=93027f3d360043ab

I couldn’t put all known ancestries in the estimate

[Adamm]

My predicted ancestry:

https://i.imgur.com/EbM3kZf.png

vs my real ancestry:

https://i.imgur.com/ye5BEKX.png

[AncientGreek]

Predicted

https://imgur.com/S5Lp2Xy.png

Real

https://imgur.com/qd4Knuo.png

[Chris596]

Wow, I didn't even know something like this existed. My results:

More likely
https://i.imgur.com/rPyjAKX.png

Less likely
https://i.imgur.com/d6MKwU8.png

[Kaspias]

Predicted

https://imgur.com/S5Lp2Xy.png

Real

https://imgur.com/qd4Knuo.png

Can you post your Eurogenes K13?

[RyoHazuki]

Predicted

https://imgur.com/S5Lp2Xy.png

Real

https://imgur.com/qd4Knuo.png

what did you put for 4 countries

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Prediction

https://i.imgur.com/Z6ntWU3.png

My results

https://i.imgur.com/jIgkjwZ.png


Accurate.

[Lemminkäinen]

I don't need to predict my grandparents, because I know them, as well as my gggggggggggparents. So what does 23andme give me? Money back?

[Oneeye]

Predicted (3 gp United States, 1gp Norway)

https://i.ibb.co/Q6TZZ50/Screenshot-20200412-103214-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/vJTbbt9)




Actual


https://i.ibb.co/Jn8khz3/Screenshot-20200412-103314-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/TcJhCHW)

[AncientGreek]

Can you post your Eurogenes K13?


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.45
2 West_Med 23.53
3 West_Asian 18.37
4 North_Atlantic 13.53
5 Red_Sea 6.82
6 Baltic 3.79
7 South_Asian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.05
2 Sephardic_Jewish 7.36
3 East_Sicilian 7.73
4 Central_Greek 8.27
5 Algerian_Jewish 8.35
6 Italian_Jewish 8.59
7 Cyprian 10.29
8 Ashkenazi 10.46
9 Tunisian_Jewish 10.74
10 West_Sicilian 10.96
11 Italian_Abruzzo 11.03
12 Libyan_Jewish 11.66
13 Lebanese_Muslim 14.46
14 Greek_Thessaly 15.54
15 Syrian 15.96
16 Turkish 17.36
17 Tuscan 17.36
18 Samaritan 17.65
19 Lebanese_Christian 18.6
20 Lebanese_Druze 19.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.4% Cyprian + 17.6% French_Basque @ 2.01
2 75.9% Cyprian + 24.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.64
3 79.1% Cyprian + 20.9% Southwest_French @ 2.68
4 77.2% Cyprian + 22.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.75
5 78.4% Cyprian + 21.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.76
6 78.3% Cyprian + 21.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.77
7 70.3% South_Italian + 29.7% Cyprian @ 2.84
8 75.8% Cyprian + 24.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.03
9 84.3% South_Italian + 15.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.17
10 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.18
11 70.5% Cyprian + 29.5% North_Italian @ 3.19
12 83.9% South_Italian + 16.1% Assyrian @ 3.23
13 77.5% Cyprian + 22.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.24
14 82.6% South_Italian + 17.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.27
15 76.6% Cyprian + 23.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.3
16 77.5% Cyprian + 22.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.31
17 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.31
18 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Armenian @ 3.33
19 78.7% South_Italian + 21.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.33
20 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.33

-------------------------------------------------

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.45
2 West_Med 23.53
3 West_Asian 18.37
4 North_Atlantic 13.53
5 Red_Sea 6.82
6 Baltic 3.79


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 5.721688
2 Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.323997
3 East_Sicilian @ 8.773206
4 Central_Greek @ 9.397491
5 Algerian_Jewish @ 9.398114
6 Italian_Jewish @ 9.806026
7 Cyprian @ 11.857932
8 Ashkenazi @ 11.862622
9 Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.906460
10 West_Sicilian @ 12.577986
11 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.659006
12 Libyan_Jewish @ 12.705194
13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.278749
14 Syrian @ 17.722458
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.724112
16 Turkish @ 19.576508
17 Tuscan @ 20.036047
18 Samaritan @ 20.065554
19 Lebanese_Christian @ 21.301083
20 Jordanian @ 21.470631

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.153836


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Sardinian +25% Tuscan @ 2.418900


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
1 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 1.419497
2 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.044960
3 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.158042
4 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.301597
5 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.308706
6 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.383621
7 Kurdish_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.418900
8 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.494928
9 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.520004
10 Italian_Abruzzo + Kurdish_Jewish + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.535708
11 Assyrian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.571721
12 Central_Greek + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.592261
13 Armenian + East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.629588
14 Armenian + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.639330
15 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.649498
16 Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.662195
17 Iranian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.705418
18 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.725314
19 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Samaritan + Sardinian @ 2.730667
20 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Palestinian + Sardinian @ 2.732130

Done.


what did you put for 4 countries

Greece x4.

[xripkan]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.45
2 West_Med 23.53
3 West_Asian 18.37
4 North_Atlantic 13.53
5 Red_Sea 6.82
6 Baltic 3.79
7 South_Asian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.05
2 Sephardic_Jewish 7.36
3 East_Sicilian 7.73
4 Central_Greek 8.27
5 Algerian_Jewish 8.35
6 Italian_Jewish 8.59
7 Cyprian 10.29
8 Ashkenazi 10.46
9 Tunisian_Jewish 10.74
10 West_Sicilian 10.96
11 Italian_Abruzzo 11.03
12 Libyan_Jewish 11.66
13 Lebanese_Muslim 14.46
14 Greek_Thessaly 15.54
15 Syrian 15.96
16 Turkish 17.36
17 Tuscan 17.36
18 Samaritan 17.65
19 Lebanese_Christian 18.6
20 Lebanese_Druze 19.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.4% Cyprian + 17.6% French_Basque @ 2.01
2 75.9% Cyprian + 24.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.64
3 79.1% Cyprian + 20.9% Southwest_French @ 2.68
4 77.2% Cyprian + 22.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.75
5 78.4% Cyprian + 21.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.76
6 78.3% Cyprian + 21.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.77
7 70.3% South_Italian + 29.7% Cyprian @ 2.84
8 75.8% Cyprian + 24.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.03
9 84.3% South_Italian + 15.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.17
10 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.18
11 70.5% Cyprian + 29.5% North_Italian @ 3.19
12 83.9% South_Italian + 16.1% Assyrian @ 3.23
13 77.5% Cyprian + 22.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.24
14 82.6% South_Italian + 17.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.27
15 76.6% Cyprian + 23.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.3
16 77.5% Cyprian + 22.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.31
17 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.31
18 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Armenian @ 3.33
19 78.7% South_Italian + 21.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.33
20 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.33

-------------------------------------------------

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.45
2 West_Med 23.53
3 West_Asian 18.37
4 North_Atlantic 13.53
5 Red_Sea 6.82
6 Baltic 3.79


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 5.721688
2 Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.323997
3 East_Sicilian @ 8.773206
4 Central_Greek @ 9.397491
5 Algerian_Jewish @ 9.398114
6 Italian_Jewish @ 9.806026
7 Cyprian @ 11.857932
8 Ashkenazi @ 11.862622
9 Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.906460
10 West_Sicilian @ 12.577986
11 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.659006
12 Libyan_Jewish @ 12.705194
13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.278749
14 Syrian @ 17.722458
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.724112
16 Turkish @ 19.576508
17 Tuscan @ 20.036047
18 Samaritan @ 20.065554
19 Lebanese_Christian @ 21.301083
20 Jordanian @ 21.470631

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.153836


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Sardinian +25% Tuscan @ 2.418900


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
1 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 1.419497
2 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.044960
3 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.158042
4 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.301597
5 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.308706
6 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.383621
7 Kurdish_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.418900
8 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.494928
9 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.520004
10 Italian_Abruzzo + Kurdish_Jewish + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.535708
11 Assyrian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.571721
12 Central_Greek + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.592261
13 Armenian + East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.629588
14 Armenian + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.639330
15 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.649498
16 Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.662195
17 Iranian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.705418
18 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.725314
19 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Samaritan + Sardinian @ 2.730667
20 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Palestinian + Sardinian @ 2.732130

Done.



Greece x4.

Very interesting results, very Mediterranean! It seems you have very low Balkan/Slavic input. How much of your ancestry is from Constantinople and Halicarnasso?
Can you post also Eurogenes K15 and doecad K12b? Do you have G25 coordinates?

[Kaspias]

23andme is indeed trash in terms of admixture breakdown...

[RyoHazuki]

23andme is indeed trash in terms of admixture breakdown...

For me and others that's not the case. Better than AncestryDNA by miles.

[Kaspias]

For me and others that's not the case. Better than AncestryDNA by miles.

Because ancestrydna, ftdna, mh or whatever you name it trash too

[Coastal Elite]

Predicted
https://i.imgur.com/SGUZzLI.jpg

Real
https://i.imgur.com/9K1it3R.jpg

[Samnium]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.45
2 West_Med 23.53
3 West_Asian 18.37
4 North_Atlantic 13.53
5 Red_Sea 6.82
6 Baltic 3.79
7 South_Asian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.05
2 Sephardic_Jewish 7.36
3 East_Sicilian 7.73
4 Central_Greek 8.27
5 Algerian_Jewish 8.35
6 Italian_Jewish 8.59
7 Cyprian 10.29
8 Ashkenazi 10.46
9 Tunisian_Jewish 10.74
10 West_Sicilian 10.96
11 Italian_Abruzzo 11.03
12 Libyan_Jewish 11.66
13 Lebanese_Muslim 14.46
14 Greek_Thessaly 15.54
15 Syrian 15.96
16 Turkish 17.36
17 Tuscan 17.36
18 Samaritan 17.65
19 Lebanese_Christian 18.6
20 Lebanese_Druze 19.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.4% Cyprian + 17.6% French_Basque @ 2.01
2 75.9% Cyprian + 24.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.64
3 79.1% Cyprian + 20.9% Southwest_French @ 2.68
4 77.2% Cyprian + 22.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.75
5 78.4% Cyprian + 21.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.76
6 78.3% Cyprian + 21.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.77
7 70.3% South_Italian + 29.7% Cyprian @ 2.84
8 75.8% Cyprian + 24.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.03
9 84.3% South_Italian + 15.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.17
10 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.18
11 70.5% Cyprian + 29.5% North_Italian @ 3.19
12 83.9% South_Italian + 16.1% Assyrian @ 3.23
13 77.5% Cyprian + 22.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.24
14 82.6% South_Italian + 17.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.27
15 76.6% Cyprian + 23.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.3
16 77.5% Cyprian + 22.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.31
17 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.31
18 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Armenian @ 3.33
19 78.7% South_Italian + 21.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.33
20 85.4% South_Italian + 14.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.33

-------------------------------------------------

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.45
2 West_Med 23.53
3 West_Asian 18.37
4 North_Atlantic 13.53
5 Red_Sea 6.82
6 Baltic 3.79


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 5.721688
2 Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.323997
3 East_Sicilian @ 8.773206
4 Central_Greek @ 9.397491
5 Algerian_Jewish @ 9.398114
6 Italian_Jewish @ 9.806026
7 Cyprian @ 11.857932
8 Ashkenazi @ 11.862622
9 Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.906460
10 West_Sicilian @ 12.577986
11 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.659006
12 Libyan_Jewish @ 12.705194
13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.278749
14 Syrian @ 17.722458
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.724112
16 Turkish @ 19.576508
17 Tuscan @ 20.036047
18 Samaritan @ 20.065554
19 Lebanese_Christian @ 21.301083
20 Jordanian @ 21.470631

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.153836


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Sardinian +25% Tuscan @ 2.418900


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
1 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 1.419497
2 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.044960
3 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.158042
4 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.301597
5 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.308706
6 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.383621
7 Kurdish_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.418900
8 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.494928
9 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.520004
10 Italian_Abruzzo + Kurdish_Jewish + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.535708
11 Assyrian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.571721
12 Central_Greek + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.592261
13 Armenian + East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.629588
14 Armenian + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 2.639330
15 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.649498
16 Iranian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 2.662195
17 Iranian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian @ 2.705418
18 Assyrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian @ 2.725314
19 Georgian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Samaritan + Sardinian @ 2.730667
20 Armenian + Italian_Abruzzo + Palestinian + Sardinian @ 2.732130

Done.



Greece x4.

Very very interesting results.

[Roy]

Because ancestrydna, ftdna, mh or whatever you name it trash too

What is not trash according to you?

[Kaspias]

What is not trasha according to you?

ADMIXTURE related tools: Gedmatch, G25...

[Roy]

ADMIXTURE related tools: Gedmatch, G25...

So what do you find good or better?

[Kaspias]

So what do you find good or better?

In terms of companies? It depends on what you're looking for.

23andme has those regions that assign you according to your relativity but it costs too much. Ancestry has nothing special. FTDNA's MyOrigins also have nothing special as well, but if you're planning a detailed y-test in the future, you might want to ship your saliva only once, it works in this option. I would simply recommend MyHeritage as they recently added genetic groups that are similar stuff to 23andme's regions, plus you can predict your y-DNA for free, and it costs lower than Ancestry and 23andme.

[Mejgusu]

In terms of companies? It depends on what you're looking for.

23andme has those regions that assign you according to your relativity but it costs too much. Ancestry has nothing special. FTDNA's MyOrigins also have nothing special as well, but if you're planning a detailed y-test in the future, you might want to ship your saliva only once, it works in this option. I would simply recommend MyHeritage as they recently added genetic groups that are similar stuff to 23andme's regions, plus you can predict your y-DNA for free, and it costs lower than Ancestry and 23andme.

But if you wanna know also your y-and mt-Dna(+kit) 23andme is the best and most cost effective, or?

[Kaspias]

But if you wanna know also your y-and mt-Dna(+kit) 23andme is the best and most cost effective, or?

Yes, it is.

[Pedro Ruben]

Predicted
https://i.imgur.com/m1GGu7e.jpg

Real
https://i.imgur.com/Ed0N7Ka.jpg

[calxpal]

https://i.ibb.co/8sBydXS/Capturepred.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/BfZTHrS/Captureu20203.jpg

[gixajo]

Lamentably, I still haven´t done any test with 23andMe.

With 4 grandparents from Spain this is my prediction:

https://i.imgur.com/TSm81cy.png

And my actual results.

Before update.

https://i.imgur.com/oZ7m8xg.png

Updated results.

https://i.imgur.com/ql1DnPZ.png

And Spanish regions.

https://i.imgur.com/4ZFZebY.png

[InfamousAngel99]

My predicted results are of course off because none of my grandparents belong to one ethnic group alone, so to describe them with one group like they do in the predictor throws things off.
I put Canada, Norway, U.S., and U.S.
Predicted Results:
- 40% British & Irish
- 27% Scandinavian
- 17% French & German
- 5% Eastern European
- 3% Ashkenazi Jewish
- 3% Ghanian, Liberian, & Sierra Leonean
- 3% Nigerian
- 1% Italian
- 1% Spanish & Portuguese

Actual Results:
- 27.5% British & Irish
- 25.3% French & German
- 14.4% Scandinavian
- 19.4% Broadly Northwestern European
- 8.1% Eastern European
- 2.4% Greek & Balkan
- 1.9% Broadly European
- 0.5% Sardinian
- 0.3% Northern African
- 0.1% Somali
- 0.1% Unassigned

Now because both of my maternal grandparents are the result of recent immigration (besides one of my grandfather's branches), I think it would be better to try it with them.

Maternal Grandma's Predicted Results:
I chose Ireland, United Kingdom, Croatia, Croatia
- 41% British & Irish
- 25% Greek & Balkan
- 22% Eastern European
- 10% French & German
- 2% Scandinavian

Maternal Grandpa's Predicted Results:
I chose United Kingdom, Germany, Norway, Norway
- 45% Scandinavian
- 28% British & Irish
- 22% French & German
- 3% Eastern European
- 2% Ashkenazi Jewish