Bosniak K13 average

[Jana]

I made new Bosniak average composed of academic samples from capital Sarajevo, highly Slavic shifted samples from NE Bosnia (Tuzla) and balkanic shifted samples from Sandžak.
Happy Easter to all of you, may God bless us all.

Bosniak_new_average,25.39,31.03,15.95,8.77,14.28,1 .76,0.77,0.4,0.52,0.48,0.32,0.07,0.18

Distance to: Bosniak_new_average

1.49308406 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
1.54223950 Bosniak_Sarajevo_academic
1.64024342 Serbian_new
1.83059758 Serbian_Bosnia
1.92821161 South_Croat_average
2.10644250 Croat_Split
2.21639347 Serb_Croatia
2.23235302 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
3.24608996 Croatian_new
3.74810619 Szekely_Hungarian
3.98448240 Moldova_North
4.05451600 Szekely
4.17490120 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.21922164 Croat_Bosnia
4.34245322 Romanian_Botosani
4.35006896 Serbian_Belgrade_academic
4.56092096 Romanian_Average
4.64288703 Moldova_Centre
4.69855297 Romania_Moldavia_average
5.01917324 Moldavian
5.03732072 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
5.18297212 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.31606057 Moldova_average
5.51655690 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
5.57052062 Csango_Gymes

Target: Bosniak_new_average
Distance: 0.2607% / 0.26071424 | ADC: 0.25x

34.8 Bosniak_Sarajevo_academic
34.4 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
13.4 Croat_Split
8.2 Serbian_new
6.4 South_Croat_average
2.8 Serbian_Bosnia

Target: Bosniak_new_average
Distance: 0.2955% / 0.29554794 | ADC: 0.5x

45.4 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
31.6 Bosniak_Sarajevo_academic
11.6 South_Croat_average

Target: Bosniak_new_average
Distance: 0.3890% / 0.38898210 | ADC: 1x

48.2 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
36.2 Bosniak_Sarajevo_academic
15.6 Serbian_Bosnia
11.4 Serbian_Bosnia

[Pribislav]

Sandžakian Bosniak, surname Tutić.
https://bosnjackidnk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/viber_image_2020-04-08_20-54-46.png

[vbnetkhio]

I made new Bosniak average composed of academic samples from capital Sarajevo, highly Slavic shifted samples from NE Bosnia (Tuzla) and balkanic shifted samples from Sandžak.
Happy Easter to all of you, may God bless us all.

Bosniak_new_average,25.39,31.03,15.95,8.77,14.28,1 .76,0.77,0.4,0.52,0.48,0.32,0.07,0.18

Distance to: Bosniak_new_average

1.49308406 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
1.54223950 Bosniak_Sarajevo_academic


some north shift, some south shift, and you get Sarajevo again :D .

[CommonSense]

Sandžakian Bosniak, surname Tutić.
https://bosnjackidnk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/viber_image_2020-04-08_20-54-46.png

Funny that this guy, who's from an autosomal point of view the most Albanian-like Sandžaklija I've seen so far, is still not as close to Gheg Albanians as the average Macedonian is.

[Pribislav]

Funny that this guy, who's from an autosomal point of view the most Albanian-like Sandžaklija I've seen so far, is still not as close to Gheg Albanians as the average Macedonian is.

There is also this of that Tutić Sandžakian guy.
https://bosnjackidnk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/image-24-1024x309.png


Comment of Sandžakian guy who sent me these calculators for Tutić (literally)
Second DNA full autosomal test from someone my region, from the town of Tutin:
93% indigenous Southeast European !
When you look at the distance with closest population on Eurogenes, you see closer to Thessalian Greek that to Serbs, despite being in Serbia.
Most funny is closer to Italians, Sicilians, Greeks than to Croatians (and this Bosnia Bosnians, who are genetically the same), despide being techically "Bosniak." :)
We cluster close to Albanians/Macedonians generally speaking.

[CommonSense]

Vidim počeli su pojedini sa Bošnjačkog DNK projekta da se bude, još samo fali da neko ukaže na očiglednu činjenicu da je povezanost rodova iz Sandžaka i Bosne vrlo tanka i da se zapita kako je moguće da su svi oni izvorni "Bošnjaci" :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bosnjackiDNK/permalink/1824969090972251/

[vbnetkhio]

Funny that this guy, who's from an autosomal point of view the most Albanian-like Sandžaklija I've seen so far, is still not as close to Gheg Albanians as the average Macedonian is.

it seems that Albanian admixture among them was overestimated because of ther y-dna. i think a lot of their e-v13,j2 and r1b is from old Montenegrin tribes (which can have at least up to 26% Baltic) , not from Albanians

[Pribislav]

Vidim počeli su pojedini sa Bošnjačkog DNK projekta da se bude, još samo fali da neko ukaže na očiglednu činjenicu da je povezanost rodova iz Sandžaka i Bosne vrlo tanka i da se zapita kako je moguće da su svi oni izvorni "Bošnjaci" :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bosnjackiDNK/permalink/1824969090972251/

Ima tamo Sandžosa koji kapiraju i prihvataju da nemaju baš puno veze sa Bošnjacima iz BiH u genetskom smislu, a takvih je sve više protokom vremena. Vrlo je moguće je da Zukorlići objavljuju y dna rezultate Sandžaklija i BiH muslimana da Sandžaklije vide koliko nemaju veze sa BiH muslimanima (taj fejs je dosta praćen od strane Sandžaklija) i da se počnu vraćati svojim albanskim korenima. Zukorlić je pre par godina na Kosovu obišao mauzolej posvećen Ademu Jašariju. Zukorlić je vrv. kripto Šiptar, koji samo vrlo dobro glumi Bošnjaka.

Jedna cura iz Pazara što je na fejsu Sandžak Albanija postsvlja dokaze o albanskim korenima Sandžaklija argumentima razvaljuje Sandžose koji misle da su potomci Tvtka, Katarine Kossče i bogumila. :)

[Jana]

Sandžak Bosniaks are indeed not Albanians, they are rather muslim Montenegrins. Stories about them being slavicized Albanians need to be put to rest, they're inncaurate.

Distance to: Bosniak_Sandzak

2.01333171 Montenegrin
2.61390512 Romanian_Transylvania
2.79824945 Romanian_Transylvania
2.86276091 Romania_Moldavia_South
3.00752958 Macedonian
3.07221419 Romanian_Oltenia
3.30448181 Macedonian_Northwest
3.39168100 Romanian_Wallachia_average
3.85272631 Serbian_Belgrade_academic
3.87940717 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.91088225 Romanian_Average
4.03681805 Moldova_average
4.07992647 Vlach_Timok
4.08695486 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
4.10392495 Moldova_South
4.46963086 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.54886799 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.61870112 Bulgarian_Central
4.62447835 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.69848912 Bulgarian_Sofia
4.79142985 Romanian_Muntenia
4.99872984 Bulgarian_Serres
5.10774901 Bulgarian
5.23130959 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.25725213 Romanian_Muntenia

[Jana]

Target: Bosniak_Sandzak
Distance: 0.6035% / 0.60348363 | ADC: 0.25x

64.0 Montenegrin
12.2 Serb_North-Macedonia
12.2 Bulgarian_Serres
10.4 Vlach_Timok
0.8 Southwest_French
0.4 Serb_Croatia

Target: Bosniak_Sandzak
Distance: 0.9488% / 0.94884829 | ADC: 0.5x

75.4 Montenegrin
10.0 Bulgarian_Serres
8.8 Serb_North-Macedonia
5.8 Vlach_Timok

Target: Bosniak_Sandzak
Distance: 1.8817% / 1.88166635 | ADC: 1x

92.2 Montenegrin
7.8 Macedonian_Northwest

[Dušan]

Ima tamo Sandžosa koji kapiraju i prihvataju da nemaju baš puno veze sa Bošnjacima iz BiH u genetskom smislu, a takvih je sve više protokom vremena. Vrlo je moguće je da Zukorlići objavljuju y dna rezultate Sandžaklija i BiH muslimana da Sandžaklije vide koliko nemaju veze sa BiH muslimanima (taj fejs je dosta praćen od strane Sandžaklija) i da se počnu vraćati svojim albanskim korenima. Zukorlić je pre par godina na Kosovu obišao mauzolej posvećen Ademu Jašariju. Zukorlić je vrv. kripto Šiptar, koji samo vrlo dobro glumi Bošnjaka.

Jedna cura iz Pazara što je na fejsu Sandžak Albanija postsvlja dokaze o albanskim korenima Sandžaklija argumentima razvaljuje Sandžose koji misle da su potomci Tvtka, Katarine Kossče i bogumila. :)

Невезано за порекло, за државу Србију је боље да се сматрају Бошњацима, него Албанцима, тако наслоњени на север Косова и Метохије.

[Pribislav]

Sandžak Bosniaks are indeed not Albanians, they are rather muslim Montenegrins. Stories about them being slavicized Albanians need to be put to rest, they're inncaurate.

Distance to: Bosniak_Sandzak

2.01333171 Montenegrin
2.61390512 Romanian_Transylvania
2.79824945 Romanian_Transylvania
2.86276091 Romania_Moldavia_South
3.00752958 Macedonian
3.07221419 Romanian_Oltenia
3.30448181 Macedonian_Northwest
3.39168100 Romanian_Wallachia_average
3.85272631 Serbian_Belgrade_academic
3.87940717 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.91088225 Romanian_Average
4.03681805 Moldova_average
4.07992647 Vlach_Timok
4.08695486 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
4.10392495 Moldova_South
4.46963086 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
4.54886799 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
4.61870112 Bulgarian_Central
4.62447835 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.69848912 Bulgarian_Sofia
4.79142985 Romanian_Muntenia
4.99872984 Bulgarian_Serres
5.10774901 Bulgarian
5.23130959 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.25725213 Romanian_Muntenia

2/3 of Sandžakians carry Albanian (Malesor) paternal lines. Their Albo ancestors often married islamized Serbian/Montenegrin women and some are of Serb/Montenegrin origin by paternal lines, and because of these reasons they are not same autosomally as Albanians.
But from East Sandžak where live most of Muslims there is little samples. Your average is based mostly on West Sandžakians who are less Albanian and more Serb/Montenegrin related than East Sandžakians. Plus Malesors are not researched genetically enough, they are not same as Kosovo Albanians.

[Pribislav]

Невезано за порекло, за државу Србију је боље да се сматрају Бошњацима, него Албанцима, тако наслоњени на север Косова и Метохије.

Слажем се, само чини ми се да је код њих у току нека ре-албанизација и рекао бих да је и Зукорлић уплетен у то.

Да није било Васојевића Шиптари би дошли до Ивањице. Васојевићи су физички одсекли источне Санџаклије од Албаније и деломично од Косова, па су ови због одсечености од сународника заборавили албански језик, изгубили албанску свест и на крају постали Бошњаци. По Пештеру има још стараца који знају албански језик.

[Pribislav]

Sandžakian Bosniak, surname Tutić.
https://bosnjackidnk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/viber_image_2020-04-08_20-54-46.png

Deeper origin of Tutić family is from Malesor tribe Shkreli from northern Albania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shkreli_(tribe)
Their ancestors came to Tutin area in first half of 18th century when a lot of Malesors on Ottoman initiative moved in Sandžak (some even forcibly) and from Catholicism converted on Islam.
Y dna of Tutić family is J-CTS8786>Y182188.