Classify and place French fans

[MobyD]

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https://c8.alamy.com/comp/P5A63D/france-fan-denmark-v-france-denmark-v-france-2018-fifa-world-cup-russia-26-june-2018-gbc8845-2018-fifa-world-cup-russia-strictly-editorial-use-only-if-the-playerplayers-depicted-in-this-image-isare-playing-for-an-english-club-or-the-england-national-team-then-this-image-may-only-be-used-for-editorial-purposes-no-commercial-use-the-following-usages-are-also-restricted-even-if-in-an-editorial-context-use-in-conjuction-with-or-part-of-any-unauthorized-audio-video-data-fixture-lists-clubleague-logos-betting-games-or-any-live-services-also-restricted-are-usa-P5A63D.jpg
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https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BHGNF1/a-female-french-fan-with-a-painted-face-in-the-stands-during-the-2006-BHGNF1.jpg
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[Cristiano viejo]

Spain.

[MobyD]

Bump

[Cristiano viejo]

Serbiqn hoy, tell me they don't look Spanish, come on.

[Samnium]

Serbiqn hoy, tell me they don't look Spanish, come on.

No they don't look spanish, apart her :

https://pix.avax.news/avaxnews/43/70/00037043.jpeg

Stop saying BS about French people.

[catgeorge]

Central - Southwest

[guyinsf]

Unless you came up and ask them for their ethnicity we can't assume that they are all ethnically French people because they are French fans.

[Immanenz]

Most of them look typical French, 2-3 of them could pass in Italy/Iberia
the first one is the hottest imo

[Ülev]

and they support them? --> https://digitalsport.co/french-football-federation-launches-exciting-international-esports-team

[Viridian1]

Atlantid and Subnordid

[Cristiano viejo]

No they don't look spanish, apart her :

https://pix.avax.news/avaxnews/43/70/00037043.jpeg

Stop saying BS about French people.you are Who should stop to say bs about Spanish. ALL OF THEM LOOK SPANISH. Who the fuck are You TO try to say to me how my People look?

[Ruggery]

Some would spend in Spain, others would not, but to me they look like normal French, not Spanish or German, because if we compare in groups the French, German and Spanish would look different.

[Blondie]

atlantid, atlanto-med

[Samnium]

Some would spend in Spain, others would not, but to me they look like normal French, not Spanish or German, because if we compare in groups the French, German and Spanish would look different.

Totally agree.


you are Who should stop to say bs about Spanish. ALL OF THEM LOOK SPANISH. Who the fuck are You TO try to say to me how my People look?

Actually it's you that come here on a thread about France and claim that these fans all look Spanish, which isn't true at all.

Sweep before your own door.

[Jana]

I don't understand why Samnium denies any overlap with Spanish, the're French neighbours and lot of French are close to them genetically.

For example, central French are closer to Spanish than to Germans.

Distance to: French_Auvergne

0.00784020 French_Occitanie
0.01321153 Swiss_French
0.01627746 Spanish_Penedes
0.01770268 French_Provence
0.01780195 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.01802529 Spanish_Girona
0.01837433 Spanish_Barcelones
0.01883475 Swiss_German
0.01917395 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.01940446 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.01947823 Spanish_Lleida
0.02026928 French_Paris
0.02033227 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02074184 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02230779 French_Nord
0.02251324 French_Alsace
0.02338748 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02437136 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02444201 Spanish_Castello
0.02458800 Spanish_Baleares
0.02460692 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02571417 Spanish_Cantabria
0.02589007 Spanish_Valencia
0.02683351 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02690861 Belgian

Not to mention southern French


Distance to: French_South

0.01852973 Basque_French
0.01855847 Spanish_Pirineu
0.01904887 Spanish_Cantabria
0.01909244 Spanish_Castello
0.01919819 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.01988867 Spanish_Aragon
0.02066204 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02074578 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02084235 Basque_Spanish
0.02098831 Spanish_Lleida
0.02178024 Spanish_Navarra
0.02213638 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02215960 Spanish_Valencia
0.02317223 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02371076 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02395647 Spanish_Penedes
0.02448098 Spanish_Girona
0.02460648 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02554878 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02691098 French_Occitanie
0.02758152 French_Auvergne
0.02838779 Spanish_Alacant
0.02859213 Spanish_Soria
0.02941886 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03042458 Spanish_Baleares

Distance to: French_Provence

0.01479124 Swiss_French
0.01581018 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.01604222 Spanish_Mallorca
0.01770268 French_Auvergne
0.01839332 Spanish_Penedes
0.01851563 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.01860396 Spanish_Girona
0.01928041 Italian_Northeast
0.02024306 Spanish_Baleares
0.02038287 Italian_Veneto
0.02103148 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02157034 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02225396 French_Occitanie
0.02235355 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02277899 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02286385 Spanish_Lleida
0.02453422 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02517360 Swiss_German
0.02600193 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02656207 Spanish_Alacant
0.02663978 Italian_Bergamo
0.02719442 Spanish_Menorca
0.02750834 Spanish_Castello
0.02764099 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02789692 French_Paris

While Corsicans are Italian by origin.

Distance to: French_Corsica

0.01892988 Italian_Tuscany
0.02012904 Italian_Piedmont
0.02184448 Italian_Bergamo
0.02269847 Italian_Lombardy
0.02579373 Italian_Umbria
0.02649180 Swiss_Italian
0.02740826 Italian_Marche
0.02754218 Italian_Veneto
0.02947490 Italian_Lazio
0.03099913 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03137781 Italian_Liguria
0.03226768 Spanish_Menorca
0.03410760 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03463136 Spanish_Baleares
0.03494412 Greek_Thessaly
0.03604670 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03642251 Spanish_Murcia
0.03778015 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03795042 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03821131 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03831983 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03834255 Albanian
0.03848074 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03885161 Spanish_Alacant
0.03893979 Italian_Molise

[Jana]

Some would spend in Spain, others would not, but to me they look like normal French, not Spanish or German, because if we compare in groups the French, German and Spanish would look different.

For sure, as a group they only pass as French.

[PaleoEuropean]

I don't understand why Samnium denies any overlap with Spanish, the're French neighbours and lot of French are close to them genetically.

For example, central French are closer to Spanish than to Germans.

Distance to: French_Auvergne

0.00784020 French_Occitanie
0.01321153 Swiss_French
0.01627746 Spanish_Penedes
0.01770268 French_Provence
0.01780195 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.01802529 Spanish_Girona
0.01837433 Spanish_Barcelones
0.01883475 Swiss_German
0.01917395 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.01940446 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.01947823 Spanish_Lleida
0.02026928 French_Paris
0.02033227 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02074184 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02230779 French_Nord
0.02251324 French_Alsace
0.02338748 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02437136 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02444201 Spanish_Castello
0.02458800 Spanish_Baleares
0.02460692 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02571417 Spanish_Cantabria
0.02589007 Spanish_Valencia
0.02683351 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02690861 Belgian

Not to mention southern French


Distance to: French_South

0.01852973 Basque_French
0.01855847 Spanish_Pirineu
0.01904887 Spanish_Cantabria
0.01909244 Spanish_Castello
0.01919819 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.01988867 Spanish_Aragon
0.02066204 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02074578 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02084235 Basque_Spanish
0.02098831 Spanish_Lleida
0.02178024 Spanish_Navarra
0.02213638 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02215960 Spanish_Valencia
0.02317223 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02371076 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02395647 Spanish_Penedes
0.02448098 Spanish_Girona
0.02460648 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02554878 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02691098 French_Occitanie
0.02758152 French_Auvergne
0.02838779 Spanish_Alacant
0.02859213 Spanish_Soria
0.02941886 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03042458 Spanish_Baleares

Distance to: French_Provence

0.01479124 Swiss_French
0.01581018 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.01604222 Spanish_Mallorca
0.01770268 French_Auvergne
0.01839332 Spanish_Penedes
0.01851563 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.01860396 Spanish_Girona
0.01928041 Italian_Northeast
0.02024306 Spanish_Baleares
0.02038287 Italian_Veneto
0.02103148 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02157034 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02225396 French_Occitanie
0.02235355 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02277899 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02286385 Spanish_Lleida
0.02453422 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02517360 Swiss_German
0.02600193 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02656207 Spanish_Alacant
0.02663978 Italian_Bergamo
0.02719442 Spanish_Menorca
0.02750834 Spanish_Castello
0.02764099 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02789692 French_Paris

While Corsicans are Italian by origin.

Distance to: French_Corsica

0.01892988 Italian_Tuscany
0.02012904 Italian_Piedmont
0.02184448 Italian_Bergamo
0.02269847 Italian_Lombardy
0.02579373 Italian_Umbria
0.02649180 Swiss_Italian
0.02740826 Italian_Marche
0.02754218 Italian_Veneto
0.02947490 Italian_Lazio
0.03099913 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03137781 Italian_Liguria
0.03226768 Spanish_Menorca
0.03410760 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03463136 Spanish_Baleares
0.03494412 Greek_Thessaly
0.03604670 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03642251 Spanish_Murcia
0.03778015 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03795042 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03821131 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03831983 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03834255 Albanian
0.03848074 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03885161 Spanish_Alacant
0.03893979 Italian_Molise

The lines were very very blurry at times, especially during the Norman age.

[Cristiano viejo]

Actually it's you that come here on a thread about France and claim that these fans all look Spanish, which isn't true at all.

Sweep before your own door.

Read the title of the thread and You will know why.

[Cristiano viejo]

For sure, as a group they only pass as French.

Forgot the genetic. French look infinitely More like Spanish than like germans or british.

[Jana]

Forgot the genetic. French look infinitely More like Spanish than like germans or british.

I think they just look French. Northern/Eastern French are for sure closer to Germans and Brits, people like Bretons came from UK anyway and cluster with Brits.
But lot of French are closer to Iberians.

They are just a bridge between NW and SW Europe.

[Ruggery]

Forgot the genetic. French look infinitely More like Spanish than like germans or british.

Only southwest France meets that requirement.

[gixajo]

Totally agree.



Actually it's you that come here on a thread about France and claim that these fans all look Spanish, which isn't true at all.

Sweep before your own door.

Not talking about groups, but in that case, there are individuals, and most of them, they do look spaniards.

Sorry but on the whole I don´t see them any special foreign trait.

[Cristiano viejo]

Not talking about groups, but in that case, there are individuals, and most of them, they do look spaniards.

Sorry but on the whole I don´t see them any special foreign trait.
All of them pass in Spain qbsolutely easily even as a group. Put them the Spanish shirt and everybody would say they are typical Spanish and atlantomed and only atlantomed.

[Latinus]

No they don't look spanish, apart her :

https://pix.avax.news/avaxnews/43/70/00037043.jpeg

Stop saying BS about French people.

You don't think this one would easily fit in a crowd of common Spaniards?
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BHGNF1/a-female-french-fan-with-a-painted-face-in-the-stands-during-the-2006-BHGNF1.jpg

[gixajo]

Only southwest France meets that requirement.

I know MyHeritage is not very accurate but even not being the most accurate...

https://i.imgur.com/e92j6Is.png

[Ruggery]

The atlanto med is typical in Spain, so it is obvious that the French atlanto med would pass in Spain.

[Javiberius]

Besides the international Spanish soccer team, F.F.F. team is my second go to team if Spain gets eliminated in a World Cup

[Samnium]

I don't understand why Samnium denies any overlap with Spanish, the're French neighbours and lot of French are close to them genetically.


I'm talking about phenotype, phenotype =/ genotype.

People from SW France are very close to Iberians genetically, yet they are distinct/clarly different on a pigmentation matters.

+ These references don't mean that much. There are Central French that are exactly a 50/50 between a Spaniard population and a NW Euro one. So equally far away.

Others are very close to Iberians.

[Ruggery]

You don't think this one would easily fit in a crowd of common Spaniards?
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BHGNF1/a-female-french-fan-with-a-painted-face-in-the-stands-during-the-2006-BHGNF1.jpg

Yes she, of course.

[Samnium]

You don't think this one would easily fit in a crowd of common Spaniards?
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BHGNF1/a-female-french-fan-with-a-painted-face-in-the-stands-during-the-2006-BHGNF1.jpg

Yeah actually I thought also about her. I didn't included here however, at the end.

[gixajo]

All of them pass in Spain qbsolutely easily even as a group. Put them the Spanish shirt and everybody would say they are typical Spanish and atlantomed and only atlantomed.

Son todas muy normalitas, no veo ninguna especialmente nórdica, hasta las rubias teñidas parecen españolas.

Si hasta parecen elegidas adrede para parecer españolas.

Thay are a lot of French people that don´t look Spanish, but in this case, they seem chosen to look like Spanish women.

[gixajo]

Even the bleached blondes look Spanish...

[Samnium]

Forgot the genetic. French look infinitely More like Spanish than like germans or british.

I don't think that you know that much to French looks for saying that. French that aren't from deep south look "infinitely" more like Swiss/Southern Germans/Belgians than to Spanish people. It's a fact, and I live in an area very close to Switzerland.

But in reality French can have their very distinct look, not Spaniard/Italian/Brit or whatever, just French.

Of course it doesn't fit your agenda.

[Samnium]

I think they just look French. Northern/Eastern French are for sure closer to Germans and Brits, people like Bretons came from UK anyway and cluster with Brits.
But lot of French are closer to Iberians.

They are just a bridge between NW and SW Europe.

France is indeed a transitional area, and that's why you see quite "sharp" genetical differences (even if much less than some countries like Italy) that shows up phenotypically as well.

French are between SW Europe and NW Europe indeed, with lot of them closer to SW, many others closer to NW, and then some to the middle.

Rather than a bridge I would say that's a country at the crossroads of the North and the South Europe, and guess what. Many French writers wrote about France being a so powerful and rich nation because being a mix of Northern and Southern elements culturally.

[gixajo]

I don't think that you know that much to French looks for saying that. French that aren't from deep south look "infinitely" more like Swiss/Southern Germans/Belgians than to Spanish people. It's a fact, and I live in an area very close to Switzerland.

But in reality French can have their very distinct look, not Spaniard/Italian/Brit or whatever, just French.

Of course it doesn't fit your agenda.

The question is more simple than this, if you dont think that women showed in those photos looks Spanish also, yo don´t know how Spanish women are at all.

Not the "look" understood as way of dressing or hairstyle, but true physical features.

[Ethel]

Apart from these two here desperately trying to stick with the French, I have to agree that the people chosen in these pictures do look very Spanish, dunno if it's intentional/cherrypicked, because the French people I saw IRL look nothing like these.

[Samnium]

Apart from these two here desperately trying to stick with the French, I have to agree that the people chosen in these pictures do look very Spanish, dunno if it's intentional/cherrypicked, because the French people I saw IRL look nothing like these.

Also, one thing. We can't be sure that they are entirely or even partially French.

I mean, France got "replaced" by several millions of Southern Euros. I'm myself partly Southern Euro but there are many people that are full Southern Euro out there.

Fans pictures are useless if you want to know how a population look like. Only local crowd pictures in cities that haven't many foreign people/isolated areas can show that.

[gixajo]

Apart from these two here desperately trying to stick with the French, I have to agree that the people chosen in these pictures do look very Spanish, dunno if it's intentional/cherrypicked, because the French people I saw IRL look nothing like these.

I am one of those two who are desperately trying to stick with the French?

And thanks that was exactly what I was saying:
I have to agree that the people chosen in these pictures do look very Spanish

[gixajo]

Also, one thing. We can't be sure that they are entirely or even partially French.

I mean, France got "replaced" by several millions of Southern Euros. I'm myself partly Southern Euro but there are many people that are full Southern Euro out there.

Fans pictures are useless if you want to know how a population look like. Only local crowd pictures in cities that haven't many foreign people/isolated areas can show that.

Do this "replacement" explain why the 70.6% of French people who have made the saliva test of MyHeritage score something in Iberian ethnicity, before and near the double of any other European ethnicity?

[Samnium]

Do this "replacement" explain why the 70.6% of French people who have made the saliva test of MyHeritage score something in Iberian ethnicity, before and near the double of any other European ethnicity?

"Shared" DNA + also of course this replacement has played and is playing a great role.

But I wont take this number as true because "French people" can mean everything for them.

Northern French don't get more than 10% Iberian in commercial tests. Then there's a genetical cline between Northern France, Central and Southern, Southern will show very strong Iberian affinities.

[Nassbean]

Spain.

hahahahah

[Ethel]

Also, one thing. We can't be sure that they are entirely or even partially French.

I mean, France got "replaced" by several millions of Southern Euros. I'm myself partly Southern Euro but there are many people that are full Southern Euro out there.

Fans pictures are useless if you want to know how a population look like. Only local crowd pictures in cities that haven't many foreign people/isolated areas can show that.

Yes, a huge part of modern French do have at least one grandparent from another (european) country. Despite that, of course you'll always find French people who look British, German, Italian, Spanish, Basque, etc... I guess it must vary significantly considering its borders.
Even so, there are many people who look just French.

These are people who I perceive as distinctively French and nothing else:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Sophie_Marceau_taularde_2016_5.jpg

https://www.voteforanimals2019.eu/content/uploads/2019/05/benoit.jpg

https://noticias.buscavoluntaria.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Os-Franceses-Tomam-Banho.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/S%C3%A9gol%C3%A8ne_Royal_2007.jpg

[gixajo]

Spain got "replaced " also by South Europeans!!! 85.6% of nowadays Spanish score Iberian ethnicity!!!

Your silence speaks for you, thanks.

Maybe the fact is that some Frenchs try to disengage from Iberians?

Nordicism ? here in TA? Impossible!!!

[gixajo]

"Shared" DNA + also of course this replacement has played and is playing a great role.

But I wont take this number as true because "French people" can mean everything for them.

Northern French don't get more than 10% Iberian in commercial tests. Then there's a genetical cline between Northern France, Central and Southern, Southern will show very strong Iberian affinities.

It´s touching how you try to deny one and another time the reality, but well, you are free to live in a lie.

It´s the same that some Spaniards with Northafricans or Spanish muslim rule heritage, but in this case the distance is still less.

I go to sleep, je vais dormir. A bientot.:)

[Lousianaboy]

French girls are beautiful, my French side was very good looking although they were short height

[MobyD]

Bump

[Samnium]

It´s touching how you try to deny one and another time the reality, but well, you are free to live in a lie.

It´s the same that some Spaniards with Northafricans or Spanish muslim rule heritage, but in this case the distance is still less.

I go to sleep, je vais dormir. A bientot.:)

Sorry, but you don’t seem to know that much about French demography. And I haven’t even talked about inter-regional weddings with people from South that have surely increased this Iberian percentage :)

What’s French for MyHeritage ? It’s a good question.

I know well French genetics, read the last study from Giemza, and you will see rhat the Northern French cluster is closer to NW Euros.

People from Northern/Eastern France score low Southern Euro.

[Samnium]

Spain got "replaced " also by South Europeans!!! 85.6% of nowadays Spanish score Iberian ethnicity!!!

Your silence speaks for you, thanks.

Maybe the fact is that some Frenchs try to disengage from Iberians?

Nordicism ? here in TA? Impossible!!!

Stop embarassing yourself.

Replying to ideas like : «French are spaniards in denial» isn’t nordicism. It’s not my fault if here some Spaniard users want to be closer to French and don’t want to be labeled as Southern Euro.

Lies and fantasms have to be debunked.

[Kyp]

Mainly Atlantids. The authentic kind of Atlantid

[Creoda]

la cerises cueillies

[Grace O'Malley]

Posting a few single people is not really representative. You need to post many group pictures to give an idea of what a population looks like. Anyway French have a range of looks and for a country have quite diverse genetics.

[gixajo]

Stop embarassing yourself.

Replying to ideas like : «French are spaniards in denial» isn’t nordicism. It’s not my fault if here some Spaniard users want to be closer to French and don’t want to be labeled as Southern Euro.

Lies and fantasms have to be debunked.

Next time try to answer me before I go to bed, thanks.

You are puting in my mouth ideas that I have never said, which it's very revealing.And more coming from one guy who is half Southern European, so imagine a "français de souche".

Frenchs are not Spaniards in denial, the main idea is that many Frenchs are more Iberian than what they are willing to admit. Even an average of 15% is inadmissible.

Do you consider acceptable approximate a 15% of the Iberian in average French(4 grandfathers born in France) ? And with your answer I will end with the issue, because I can see that you are uncomfortable with this.:)

[Samnium]

You are puting in my mouth ideas that I have never said, which it's very revealing.And more coming from one guy who is half Southern European, so imagine a "français de souche".

It's more or less your agenda here, sorry to say that. On other threads I haven't seen messages like that, but here, yes.

My background has nothing to do here, I'm the first that say that French and Northern Italians are different in phenotype, genetics...


Frenchs are not Spaniards in denial, the main idea is that many Frenchs are more Iberian than what they are willing to admit. Even an average of 15% is inadmissible.

That average doesn't mean everything.

And by the way it's not that they are "more Iberian", it's genetical closeness, French people score Irish/Brit not because they have received direct Brit input.


Do you consider acceptable approximate a 15% of the Iberian in average French(4 grandfathers born in France) ? And with your answer I will end with the issue, because I can see that you are uncomfortable with this.:)

10/15%, for the average, considering that many are below or above of that. At the end of the day it's meaningless.

Few people score the average, given the differences between Southern and Northern France.

[Gota_type_]

Only southwest France meets that requirement.

No tienes ni puñetera idea. Todas esas francesas de las fotos pasan en España y pasan como average Spaniards. De verdad te crees que todos los españoles parecemos Antonio Banderas o Penelope Cruz? Si me vieras a mí entonces qué dirías, que soy vikingo y que es imposible que sea español?

Lo dicho, todas estas parecen típicas españolas y pasan sin el más mínimo problema. De hecho, hay millones de españolas con aspecto más norteño que las de las fotos.

[Samnium]

Oh, the chief of the nordicists is here to say that French are more Med than Spaniards, and that there are million of Nordic in Spain. :rolleyes:

[Kyp]

I took the time to classify all:

North Atlantid/Atlantid
Atlantid
Atlantid
Atlantid
West Alpinid/Atlantid
Left: Atlanto-Med Right: Atlantid/Alpinid
Alpinid
Atlantid
Iranid (dont think shes French feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Atlantid + Alpine

[Samnium]

I took the time to classify all:

North Atlantid/Atlantid
Atlantid
Atlantid
Atlantid
West Alpinid/Atlantid
Left: Atlanto-Med Right: Atlantid/Alpinid
Alpinid
Atlantid
Iranid (dont think shes French feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Atlantid + Alpine

Yeah this one looks weird :

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BHGNF1/a-female-french-fan-with-a-painted-face-in-the-stands-during-the-2006-BHGNF1.jpg

[Immanenz]

Yeah this one looks weird :

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BHGNF1/a-female-french-fan-with-a-painted-face-in-the-stands-during-the-2006-BHGNF1.jpg

she is just Atlanto Med/Berid, looks a bit more South Euro compared to the others

[Samnium]

she is just Atlanto Med/Berid, looks a bit more South Euro compared to the others

Maybe, but in the eye area she's a bit exotic. I could figure her as Iranian very easily.

[Davystayn]

French girls are seriously hot, great examples, 👍

[Voskos]

Wouldn't pass anywhere outside of France.

[Immanenz]

French girls are seriously hot, great examples, ��

propably the only good answer in this thread :thumb001:

[Davystayn]

Dp

[gixajo]

It's more or less your agenda here, sorry to say that. On other threads I haven't seen messages like that, but here, yes.

My background has nothing to do here, I'm the first that say that French and Northern Italians are different in phenotype, genetics...



That average doesn't mean everything.

And by the way it's not that they are "more Iberian", it's genetical closeness, French people score Irish/Brit not because they have received direct Brit input.



10/15%, for the average, considering that many are below or above of that. At the end of the day it's meaningless.

Few people score the average, given the differences between Southern and Northern France.

I have not any agenda, but I see continually clues about some issues and I try to explain them thinking a potential main theory.

When you show me something different of your feelings and impressions, maybe we could strat speaking.

My general point is that many Europeans usually tends to minimize the importance of some of their component origins they don´t like, even having significative importance in their ethnic composition.

And every nationality do this.Spanish also, as I said many times in many threads, surely you have read some of my opnions before.

And particularly, in the case of Frenchs, you use to minimize Iberian influence. Southern european influence in general also, but specially Iberian one.

Do you think that this point is wrong in the specific case of France?

Commercial companies results don´t prove anything, G25 don´t prove anything, Gedmatch doesn´t prove anything so...Could you tell me what could prove something?

[Rocinante]

Yeah this one looks weird :

But beautiful though.

I guess she is just a euro-mediterranean woman.

[gixajo]

Wouldn't pass anywhere outside of France.

Except if f they would wear the Spanish (or Portuguese maybe) national football team shirt .

:icon_rolleyes:

[Samnium]

But beautiful though.

I guess she is just a euro-mediterranean woman.

Yes she's very pretty.

[Voskos]

Except if f they would wear the Spanish (or Portuguese maybe) national football team shirt .

really?????

[gixajo]

really?????

Yes, really, in my opinion all those women can pass in Spain without problems. Specifically those, not any other french women or French group of people.

[Latinus]

Maybe, but in the eye area she's a bit exotic. I could figure her as Iranian very easily.

I think she has a generic Med face, I have the impression that I have seen many clones of her.

[Samnium]

I think she has a generic Med face, I have the impression that I have seen many clones of her.

Fan pictures are just awful.

Really you can’t choose a worse setting of pictures : bad lightning, make-up, tanning...

[hurtuv]

Pass well in Iberia and Italy.

[Rocinante]

Not going to lie, most of them can pass in Spain, being typical or atypical, but their french vibe is strong in most of them, so the first place they could be placed is France.

First woman are the ones that can strongly pass in Spain, also, they all can pass in Northwestern Italy, the Alpine stronghold, though hardly near Abruzzo, Sicily or Sardinia.

Austria and Bavaria would be a great place to pass to, except for the less Alpine influenced ones.

Guess Alpine is the most common phenotype in Central France.

[Samnium]

Not going to lie, most of them can pass in Spain, being typical or atypical, but their french vibe is strong in most of them, so the first place they could be placed is France.

I agree, I've never said that they can't pass in Spain but apparently some people here aren't able to read one or two sentences.

[Cristiano viejo]

I agree, I've never said that they can't pass in Spain but apparently some people here aren't able to read one or two sentences.
Let see if it is true That You never said it:


No they don't look spanish, apart her :

https://pix.avax.news/avaxnews/43/70/00037043.jpeg

Stop saying BS about French people.

Being half italian is what Makes You lying as fuck, true?

[Samnium]

He thinks all southern italians are half moors, and they are not, just look at my oracles and G25, being 1/4 syracusan, and would be a similar case as apulians that are more close to Thessalians than to calabrians for example.

Indeed you look just central french.

I think I pass just fine where I live (Alpine France) and in parts of Central Europe along with also UK, Belgium, Northern Italy. 0 exotic or "wog", except the fact that I'm dark haired, I've light eyes and fair skin.

Probably he would have wanted that I looked very exotic to confirm what's saying.

He's not educated about genetics, it's useless to talk about that with him.

[Ethel]

Not going to lie, most of them can pass in Spain, being typical or atypical, but their french vibe is strong in most of them, so the first place they could be placed is France.

These girls do look very "Iberian". They look as if they were all from the "Occitano Romance" area, and I think this is their best fit.

Except for three girls: two of them could pass, and only one is an outlier.

I don't know where you guys are catching French, Italian or Bavarian (lol) vibes, except from these three.

We know that many SW French overlap more with Spaniards than with the other French. OP isn't innocent, they were cherrypicked precisely because of that.
However, I do agree that some Iberians really try to lump themselves with the French, but I think in this case they're right. The same way I sense some here try to not be related with Iberians in any way. I think this is pretty obvious too.

Welp, at least you've learned the lesson, it's no use arguing with this failed old man, the first thing I did when I came back to the forum was to ignore CV posts, I wonder if anyone here still takes him seriously.

[Rocinante]

Irrelevant. Someone Who is half south italian can not call himself as French, or as lithuanian, period.

Did you know almost every european suspects about a great grandfather from another part of Europe? Also almost all spaniards, if you were not aware of this, and guess what, they are spaniards.

Like i said, someone that is born in Burgos, has a father from Soria and a mother from Trento (for example), the person will be ~100% european genetically, extremely related to spaniards and will overlap with them.


It is You the complexed. It is obvious You feel ashamed for being half south italian.

:picard1: fuck man... You are acid as fuck, you know that right?

I know him, actually quite well, and he is actually strongly proud to his half italian family, why someone wouldn't be proud of his italian side?

[Samnium]

It is You the complexed. It is obvious You feel ashamed for being half south italian.

If I would be ashamed I would have hidden that, that's not the case, complexed nordicist.

Also, I wouldn't have put "Hellenic" in my profile tag.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Where are the french men? Are they all african immigrants now?

These women look majority SW Euros with atlantid, atlanto-med, alpine phenotypes with some gracile-med and subnordid influences. Their best fit outside France is Iberia by a significant margin followed by England, North Italy and Central Europe IMO.

[Samnium]

Where are the french men? Are they all african immigrants now?

These women look majority SW Euros with atlantid, atlanto-med, alpine phenotypes with some gracile-med and subnordid influences. Their best fit outside France is Iberia by a significant margin followed by England, North Italy and Central Europe IMO.

Atlantid isn't a SW Euro (unless you mean depigmented Atl. Med as understood here)

[Cristiano viejo]

Did you know almost every european suspects about a great grandfather from another part of Europe? Also almost all spaniards, if you were not aware of this, and guess what, they are spaniards.


Excuse me... Are You saying almost All spaniards have a great grandfather Who is foreigner??? Because That is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Spain is not like france or uk, where That does really happen.

You say That bcs It is your case.


If I would be ashamed I would have hidden that, that's not the case, complexed nordicist.

Also, I wouldn't have put "Hellenic" in my profile tag.
Yes, You feel Shame of your south italian Family and show your Nordicism since You claim to be French, and not south italian. It is clear like water.


Also, one thing : continue to insult me and my family and you will get a well deserved ban.
Who is insulting your Family, retard?
And stop with stupidity threatens, You are not mod here, You don't decide if iam breaking the rules, despide your cries to Loki, girl.


Where are the french men? Are they all african immigrants now?

These women look majority SW Euros with atlantid, atlanto-med, alpine phenotypes with some gracile-med and subnordid influences. Their best fit outside France is Iberia by a significant margin followed by England, North Italy and Central Europe IMO.

Nah, they look german, and if You don't think so You are nordicist and have an agenda :laugh:

[Rocinante]

Excuse me... Are You saying almost All spaniards have a great grandfather Who is foreigner??? Because That is ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Spain is not like france or uk, where That does really happen.

No.

But i met A LOT of this cases here in Madrid, where a czech or a french great grandfather migrated here because a war or something, that happends here in Spain too.

Also, a lot of spanish users form here does have this case too, nothing wrong with that.


You say That bcs It is your case.

:picard2:

Do you think i seek for your aproval? I just want to know why a southern european like you, mess with others southern europeans, because i can't see Samniums insulting spaniards.

[Cristiano viejo]

No.

But i met A LOT of this cases here in Madrid, where a czech or a french great grandfather migrated here because a war or something, that happends here in Spain too.

Also, a lot of spanish users form here does have this case too, nothing wrong with that.



:picard2:

Do you think i seek for your aproval? I just want to know why a southern european like you, mess with others southern europeans, because i can't see Samniums insulting spaniards.

If You can not see it, review the thread then.

And no, 99.99 per cento of spaniards don't have a foreigner ancestors, fortunately.

[Samnium]

Do you think i seek for your aproval? I just want to know why a southern european like you, mess with others southern europeans, because i can't see Samniums insulting spaniards.

Thinks that he's almost 40 years old and I'm much more mature than him. It's incredible.

This guy had spent his days to make threads to troll Italians that now got deleted.

I've never created troll threads against Spaniards contrary to him, also, he claims that I trolled "Spaniards" only because I was opposed to Nordicists Spaniards and people saying BS about France.

[Rocinante]

Thinks that he's almost 40 years old and I'm much more mature than him. It's incredible.

This guy had spent his days to make threads to troll Italians that now got deleted.

I've never created troll threads against Spaniards contrary to him, also, he claims that I trolled "Spaniards" only because I was opposed to Nordicists Spaniards and people saying BS about France.

I know you and I already knew that you didn't troll spaniards, so don't worry, and I'm fucking tired of his insults against me too.

[Samnium]

I know you and I already knew that you didn't troll spaniards, so don't worry, and I'm fucking tired of his insults against me too.

Because by the way, in real life I've visited many times Spain, and I really appreciate Spaniard culture (I've learnt Spaniard for 5 years btw) but here there are members ... Damn.

I feel myself as French but because of my Southern Euro ancestry I've always defended Spain/Spaniards against trolls that said that they were half moors or I don't know what other kind of troll. That they are mixed with Blacks maybe, Vargian idiocies.

[TheMaestro]

Totally agree.



Actually it's you that come here on a thread about France and claim that these fans all look Spanish, which isn't true at all.

Sweep before your own door.


Dont waste time with the “smartest” ignorant.

[Rocinante]

Because by the way, in real life I've visited many times Spain, and I really appreciate Spaniard culture (I've learnt Spaniard for 5 years btw) but here there are members ... Damn.

I feel myself as French but because of my Southern Euro ancestry I've always defended Spain/Spaniards against trolls that said that they were half moors or I don't know what other kind of troll. That they are mixed with Blacks maybe, Vargian idiocies.

I'm here is this forum to share ideas of genetics and history, also to defend Spain and the rest of South Europe, but some people here have the agenda to destroy that brotherhood that must prevail, thinking they are some kind of nordics in the southwest and the rest of the south are arabs.

Game over with me, i'm done man.

[Cristiano viejo]

"You claim", but I'm French fucking troll, unlike you that in all threads want to create a "French" connection. You will never be french, get over with it.



You and your stupid posts, also making threads to lead people to believe that Southern Italians are Africans/Arabs.



You don't understand that your insults won't last forever, it's as simple as that. You believe that you're the exception ? People that acted like you on the past got banned, senseless child.

I didn't cried to Loki I just said to him that you're continuously re-attacking and harrassing me on this thread, you can be sure that you will never have the last word.
Lol, i hate French, the last thing i would do in the world would be pretending be one. It is You Who being HaLF ITALIAN claim S be French :thumb001:


Thinks that he's almost 40 years old .
Eh eh, calm, terrone... I am 35yo, Give me a Break, bambino :cool:

Mature? Haha, Yes, That is why You are criying like a bitch even to LOki and giving me dozens of thumb downs, true? :laugh:


Dont waste time with the “smartest” ignorant.

The GYpsy spoke :D

[TheMaestro]

Lol, i hate French, the last thing i would do in the world would be pretending be one. It is You Who being HaLF ITALIAN claim S be French :thumb001:


Eh eh, calm, terrone... I am 35yo, Give me a Break, bambino :cool:

Mature? Haha, Yes, That is why You are criying like a bitch even to LOki and giving me dozens of thumb downs, true? :laugh:



The GYpsy spoke :D

1mil gypsies in your country bro, but its fine, just ironic.

[Cristiano viejo]

1mil gypsies in your country bro, but its fine, just ironic.

There are 700.000,said by the main GYpsy organization, because the Spanish census does not allow to Make disctintions by race.

This being said, most of them live in andalusia, a place veeeery far from me :p

This being said, the most importante thing is the percentage regarding the entire population, dear "smartest" ignorant :thumb001:and Here slovakia and Albania are the maestros :laugh:

[Samnium]

Lol, i hate French, the last thing i would do in the world would be pretending be one.

You hate so much French that you say everyday that French are "Meds" and close to Spaniards


It is You Who being HaLF ITALIAN claim S be French :thumb001:

You're obsessed by my origins, it's pathological at this point.


Eh eh, calm, terrone... I am 35yo

Stop calling me terrone, Sudaca.

Oh, you're 35 yo ? At first glance I thought that you had half of your age (actually not even).


Give me a Break, bambino :cool:

You're already ridiculing yourself to the whole forum, by your ignorance, defamation and vulgarity.


Mature? Haha, Yes, That is why You are criying like a bitch even to LOki and giving me dozens of thumb downs, true? :laugh:

The thumbs down is all what you deserve.

For you, noticing a retard like you to the moderation is "crying like a bitch". Maybe you will say that report someone who's continuously insulting you on internet it's being "a child".

[Gota_type_]

Lol, i hate French, the last thing i would do in the world would be pretending be one. It is You Who being HaLF ITALIAN claim S be French :thumb001:


Eh eh, calm, terrone... I am 35yo, Give me a Break, bambino :cool:

Mature? Haha, Yes, That is why You are criying like a bitch even to LOki and giving me dozens of thumb downs, true? :laugh:



The GYpsy spoke :D

Cristiano, se te reclama en este hilo. Hay hostias con 2 moros y el holandés pide que entres a repartir:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272928-The-End-of-the-Reconquista/page30&p=6637043#post6637043

Mira las páginas anteriores a ese mensaje.

[Samnium]

double

[HelloGuys]

Spain I guess

[Ruggery]

This discussion is still going on?

[TheMaestro]

Stupidity is not counting Gypsies percentually. But well, you are semi Albanian semi East European, as we say in Spain, no le pidas peras al olmo (dont ask pears to the elm) :rolleyes:

It’s funny your describing yourself, just keep talking so more members make fun of you on pm’s ahahahha.

[Duffmannn]

Also, one thing. We can't be sure that they are entirely or even partially French.

I mean, France got "replaced" by several millions of Southern Euros. I'm myself partly Southern Euro but there are many people that are full Southern Euro out there.

Fans pictures are useless if you want to know how a population look like. Only local crowd pictures in cities that haven't many foreign people/isolated areas can show that.

Well, I don´t know if you know it.

But during the High Middle Ages (from 1000 to 1200) there was a huge influx of occitans migrants to Spain to repopulate reconquered lands throught Sant Jakob´s Way.

Even nowadays many villages are called "Villafranca de..." that means "village of french people"

I just show you an example: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villafranca_del_Bierzo

La ville fut reconnue très tôt comme étape du Pèlerinage de Saint-Jacques-de-Compostelle, d'où son nom de Vicus Francorum ou Villa Francorum en raison des nombreux pèlerins francs qui s'y fixèrent. Elle obtint une charte (fuero) en 1192, confirmée en 1230.

In the eastern part (Aragon, Catalonia) the migration lasted even until 1700.

For example: https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/pensamiento/historias-cataluna/cataluna-francesa_134324_102.html

Desde el impacto de la peste negra en 1348 hasta fines del siglo XV, Cataluña perdió casi la tercera parte de su población. Si en el censo de 1359 el Principado tenía 74.849 fuegos (hogares), en 1497 habían descendido hasta 52.877. La recuperación se podía haber iniciado antes, pero la guerra civil (1462-1472) y la revuelta de los remensas frenó el crecimiento vegetativo y la llegada de población foránea. No fue hasta que se pacificó el campo con la Sentencia Arbitral de Guadalupe (1486), cuando las medio vacías tierras catalanas y los salarios más altos atrajeron a jornaleros franceses.

[...]

El impacto en Cataluña de esta llegada masiva de jóvenes varones --en su mayoría entre siete y veinte años-- fue tan decisivo que, en palabras de Nadal, renovó “la soca indígena”. Las cifras de maridos franceses en los nuevos matrimonios revelan porcentajes que oscilan entre el 15% y el 50%.

This could explain too the huge overlap between southern french and northern spaniards.

[Duffmannn]

No.

But i met A LOT of this cases here in Madrid, where a czech or a french great grandfather migrated here because a war or something, that happends here in Spain too.

Also, a lot of spanish users form here does have this case too, nothing wrong with that.



:picard2:

Do you think i seek for your aproval? I just want to know why a southern european like you, mess with others southern europeans, because i can't see Samniums insulting spaniards.

I don´t know any spaniard with non-spanish parents or grandparents. Just a friend of mine which his father is german.

99% of spaniards older than thirty do not have any non-spanish ancestor. Basically because until year 2000 Spain was something like 99,5% spanish.

[Duffmannn]

Everyone laughs on Cristiano Viejo. That´s a general agreement.

In the spanish section he blames also against anybody that is not from Valladolid with the same arguments that makes against other nationalities.

He´s kinda our pet and nobody takes him seriously.

[garruffalo]

No they don't look spanish, apart her :

https://pix.avax.news/avaxnews/43/70/00037043.jpeg

Stop saying BS about French people.

hot

[garruffalo]

Mediterranid, Alpinid, North Atlantid, Nordid range~

[Samnium]

Well, I don´t know if you know it.

But during the High Middle Ages (from 1000 to 1200) there was a huge influx of occitans migrants to Spain to repopulate reconquered lands throught Sant Jakob´s Way.

Even nowadays many villages are called "Villafranca de..." that means "village of french people"

I just show you an example: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villafranca_del_Bierzo

La ville fut reconnue très tôt comme étape du Pèlerinage de Saint-Jacques-de-Compostelle, d'où son nom de Vicus Francorum ou Villa Francorum en raison des nombreux pèlerins francs qui s'y fixèrent. Elle obtint une charte (fuero) en 1192, confirmée en 1230.

In the eastern part (Aragon, Catalonia) the migration lasted even until 1700.

For example: https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/pensamiento/historias-cataluna/cataluna-francesa_134324_102.html

Desde el impacto de la peste negra en 1348 hasta fines del siglo XV, Cataluña perdió casi la tercera parte de su población. Si en el censo de 1359 el Principado tenía 74.849 fuegos (hogares), en 1497 habían descendido hasta 52.877. La recuperación se podía haber iniciado antes, pero la guerra civil (1462-1472) y la revuelta de los remensas frenó el crecimiento vegetativo y la llegada de población foránea. No fue hasta que se pacificó el campo con la Sentencia Arbitral de Guadalupe (1486), cuando las medio vacías tierras catalanas y los salarios más altos atrajeron a jornaleros franceses.

[...]

El impacto en Cataluña de esta llegada masiva de jóvenes varones --en su mayoría entre siete y veinte años-- fue tan decisivo que, en palabras de Nadal, renovó “la soca indígena”. Las cifras de maridos franceses en los nuevos matrimonios revelan porcentajes que oscilan entre el 15% y el 50%.

This could explain too the huge overlap between southern french and northern spaniards.

Even if there's an overlap, except extreme southerners or coastal French, the French from inland overlap better with other French than with Spaniards I would say. I've seen many very Blonde individuals coming from areas in inland Provence (I've always been impressed, not a dark blonde btw), you know. Strong Alpine strain as well. To me they are like an intermediate between other French and Spaniards, phenotypically wise.

It's possible that there's some Occitan input in some places in Spain, I don't deny that however inter-regional weddings/modernization have likely destroyed a bit that, at the end of the day it's very remote (these villages must have been very endogamous)

What's more interesting it's more Spaniards that emigrated in France (and Italians as well), I've known many people with Spaniard surnames despite not living near Spain border. That's why "French" can be perceived as much more Med than they are, but on every thread I talk about people without recent foreign ancestry.

[Duffmannn]

What's more interesting it's more Spaniards that emigrated in France (and Italians as well), I've known many people with Spaniard surnames despite not living near Spain border. That's why "French" can be perceived as much more Med than they are, but on every thread I talk about people without recent foreign ancestry.

Many rugby players have spanish surnames (sometimes in the national team there are more players with spanish surnames that with french ones)

Majority of spanish inmigrants went to southern France near the spanish border during the XX century, not very far away from home, so the mediterranean-iberian aspect in those regions has been reinforced even more.

But we come again to the topic: those spanish inmigrants were in part from border regions, and thus yet "french" mixed.

Anyways, there´s an obvious similarity between southern France and Iberia, not only in the genetical aspect, but rather cultural too (bullfighting, wine, mediterranean gastronomy in some parts-atlantic in other, rugby popularity just in the nearer part of the Pyrinees and not in the rest of the country, basques and catalans in both parts, occitan and catalan are the same lenguage...) and even political during antiquity and middle ages until 1213 in the Muret battle.

The degree of how big is the influence-overlap can be discused, but not the existance of the overlap-influence.

[Rocinante]

I don´t know any spaniard with non-spanish parents or grandparents. Just a friend of mine which his father is german.

99% of spaniards older than thirty do not have any non-spanish ancestor. Basically because until year 2000 Spain was something like 99,5% spanish.

I know a girl that she was born in Pamplona, of both andalusian parents (i think from Huelva), she has a great grandparent from Czechia and his first surname is Ambrosio.

Another one would be the fucking asshole that harrased the mexican mestiza co-worker, he said many times that one of his great grandparents was from Catalonia and of french surname.

What about Javier Ortega Smith, Hermann Tertsch, Rocio Monasterio, Andrea Levy, and maybe other politicians?

[Cristiano viejo]

It’s funny your describing yourself, just keep talking so more members make fun of you on pm’s ahahahha.
Last time You wanted to kill me, remember, butthurts boy? :D


Everyone laughs on Cristiano Viejo. That´s a general agreement.

In the spanish section he blames also against anybody that is not from Valladolid with the same arguments that makes against other nationalities.

He´s kinda our pet and nobody takes him seriously.

Not muy Fault That You have fame of being weak and coward among the Spanish Here.

[Cristiano viejo]

What about Javier Ortega Smith, Hermann Tertsch, Rocio Monasterio, Andrea Levy, and maybe other politicians?

Great examples...Smith, levy, tesrtsch... spanish surnames of All the life :rolleyes:

[Cristiano viejo]

What about Javier Ortega Smith, Hermann Tertsch, Rocio Monasterio, Andrea Levy, and maybe other politicians?

Great examples...Smith, levy, tesrtsch... spanish surnames of All the life :rolleyes:

[Rocinante]

Great examples...Smith, levy, tesrtsch... spanish surnames of All the life :rolleyes:

EXACTLY!

Born in before the 90's before the big immigration boom here and they are spanish, even from Vox and PP, tell them they are mongrels and not spanish.

Doesn't make sense pal. Also they all look iberian as fuck.

[Cristiano viejo]

EXACTLY!

Born in before the 90's before the big immigration boom here and they are spanish, even from Vox and PP, tell them they are mongrels and not spanish.

Doesn't make sense pal. Also they all look iberian as fuck.

Man, they are not Spanish. Tesrtsch and levy are even jews. The same the koplowitz sisters, etc. These People arrived to spainfifty years ago or so, they have nothing to do with Spain.

[Cristiano viejo]

EXACTLY!

Born in before the 90's before the big immigration boom here and they are spanish, even from Vox and PP, tell them they are mongrels and not spanish.

Doesn't make sense pal. Also they all look iberian as fuck.

Man, they are not Spanish. Tesrtsch and levy are even jews. The same the koplowitz sisters, etc. These People arrived to spainfifty years ago or so, they have nothing to do with Spain.

[mitalit]

Es poco común (yo soy una rara avis teniendo un tatarabuelo italiano), pero si que es verdad que es mas común verlo en políticos y en gente que viene de familia rica o aristocrática.

[Rocinante]

Man, they are not Spanish. Tesrtsch and levy are even jews. The same the koplowitz sisters, etc. These People arrived to spainfifty years ago or so, they have nothing to do with Spain.

Tio, el padre del Terstch es un ex-afiliado del partido nazi en Austria, vamos que yo sepa ese es el cuento, de judio... No tendra mucho. La Levy no se, pero si se que ese apellido es comun en judios provenientes del Este de Europa, pero la tia se cuela aqui como española fisicamente, hasta capaz el Levy de ella no sea judio nada.

Edit: El padre del politico, no el hijo.


Es poco común (yo soy una rara avis teniendo un tatarabuelo italiano), pero si que es verdad que es mas común verlo en políticos y en gente que viene de familia rica o aristocrática.

Exacto, yo si creo que el cabron que me encontre de becario era de mucho dinero, pero la chica de apellido Ambrosio y con un tatarabuelo checo, no me parecia tan de familia clase alta, aunque si era bastante intelegente.

[Cristiano viejo]

Tio, el padre del Terstch es un ex-afiliado del partido nazi en Austria, vamos que yo sepa ese es el cuento, de judio... No tendra mucho. La Levy no se, pero si se que ese apellido es comun en judios provenientes del Este de Europa, pero la tia se cuela aqui como española fisicamente, hasta capaz el Levy de ella no sea judio nada.
Tesrtsch es un dil defensor de los judíos, n cualquier artículo suyo les defiende, para mí es un putojudío más.
Andrea levy es judía de sangre.

Es como ya he dicho, sus padres llegaron a España hace 50 años. Españoles mis cojones.

[MobyD]

I wish there was a way to finally close this thread.

[TheMaestro]

Last time You wanted to kill me, remember, butthurts boy? :D



Not muy Fault That You have fame of being weak and coward among the Spanish Here.

Yes, I definitelly wanted to kill you. Didnt know your English is so bad you misunderstand meet with kill. Is that how your dates go?

[Cristiano viejo]

Yes, I definitelly wanted to kill you. Didnt know your English is so bad you misunderstand meet with kill. Is that how your dates go?

Hahaha, so the GYpsy really loved me ;)

[TheMaestro]

Hahaha, so the GYpsy really loved me ;)

It's okay gitano.