Is the phenotype Pontid considered as European phenotype?

[Serbat14]

Is the phenotype Pontid considered as European phenotype?

[Altaison]

It depends on person. A pontid Ukrainian is European, but a pontid Turk is Near Eastern/Middle Eastern. Genotype doesn't match phenotypes around fraction borders.

[Konstantinos]

It is considered European if you say that it looks more like a European than anything else. Otherwise Europe as in geography is a human construct.

[Serbat14]

It depends on person. A pontid Ukrainian is European, but a pontid Turk is Near Eastern/Middle Eastern. Genotype doesn't match phenotypes around fraction borders.

I meant to ask if the phenotype is considered as Europoid

[Altaison]

I meant to ask if the phenotype is considered as Europoid

I say it is about person. I think it's a transition phenotype just like East med. Not purely Europoid probably.

[Ion Basescul]

Of course not, it's more of a Khoisan phenotype.

[Daos777]

Pontid is fake anyways


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[Serbat14]

It depends on person. A pontid Ukrainian is European, but a pontid Turk is Near Eastern/Middle Eastern. Genotype doesn't match phenotypes around fraction borders.

I meant to ask if the phenotype is considered as Europoid

[Serbat14]

I say it is about person. I think it's a transition phenotype just like East med. Not purely Europoid probably.
Say which phenotype is more European Garcile med or pontid

[Serbat14]

I say it is about person. I think it's a transition phenotype just like East med. Not purely Europoid probably.
Say which phenotype is more European Garcile med or pontid

[Nurzat]

this falls into the broader discussion whether Eastern Europe is Europe at all or should Europe be called only the so-called Western Europe.

Pontic type is a Black Sea type and the native populations on the Black Sea shores are Russkies, Tatars, Balkanites, Caucasus peoples and Turks, that's quite heterogeneous, in genes, ancestry, looks, culture and language families. is this European? maybe marginally, but mostly it is not, not in the Western European range.

[Dimitri159]

I meant to ask if the phenotype is considered as Europoid

Yeah but so is Armenoid.

[Altaison]

Say which phenotype is more European Garcile med or pontid

Gracile med, they look like pigmented and less angular nordids somehow.

[Dimitri159]

Gracile med, they look like pigmented and less angular nordids somehow.

Ralph Macchio is Gracile-Med. Looks pretty European if you ask me.

[Altaison]

Ralph Macchio is Gracile-Med. Looks pretty European if you ask me.

I already implied gracile med looks more Europoid than pontid.

[itilvolga]

I meant to ask if the phenotype is considered as Europoid

If you mean Caucasoid; yes, Pontid is a subtype of Mediterranid and Mediterranid is one of the Caucasoid types.

[Immanenz]

http://humanphenotypes.net/Pontid.html
it is European looking, mostly exotic looking Pontids have other influences

[Dimitri159]

This is silly there’s no such thing as “European looking” first of all. Phenotypes overlap from continent to continent. Pontid is found in Asia and Europe, so I guess you can consider it Eurasian kinda like Armenoid or Alpinid. The only way I guess you can consider a phenotype as fully “European looking” is if it can only be found in Europe, for example Norid or Brunn. So the whole “European look” theory is pointless.

There is however a classification called Caucasoid, which includes all the types found in Europe and Asia.

[River Plate]

It is found among native population of (Eastern) Europe, so why should it not be considered as a European phenotype?

But again, it depends on what we consider to be Europe, because "Europe" is social construct and changed its meaning many times throught the history.

[Terminator98]

Lol. Of course it is. There is a lot of people in Eastern/Southeastern Europe who have 100℅ European ancestry and are Pontids. Phenotypes are not good indicators of ancestry. Lol at this comparison with Western Europe, with every new day spent here I am more and more sure that shitload of people from Eastern/Southeastern Europe have inferiority complex toward Western and Northern Europe, I honestly thought that's just myth/exaggerating but it seems it's true, unfortunately.

[The Blade]

It's both European and white. Some groups in West Asia show a minority of Pontid looks, too.

[Serbat14]

It's both European and white. Some groups in West Asia show a minority of Pontid looks, too.

the phenotype is more European or West Asian?

[Dimitri159]

the phenotype is more European or West Asian?

Both. Look at a map of Pontid is pretty much Eurasian. Read my comment as well, there’s no such thing as “white looking” or “European looking” unless it is only found in Europe.

[FinalFlash]

Pontids are cosmopolitan.

[The Blade]

the phenotype is more European or West Asian?
European.

[Dimitri159]

European.

There’s no such thing as “European looking”. Pontid is found in South-East Europe and North-West Asia equally just about. Can’t be considered “European looking” unless it is found only in Europe like Brünn or Nordid.

As for “white”, that’s the eye of the beholder. You tell me if Maria Tsagkaraki or Alexis Papas look “white” to you, they are good examples of Pontids. https://www.malemodelscene.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Alexis-Papas-Polaroids-MaleModelSceneNet-03.jpg and https://live.staticflickr.com/3827/14283729534_b9e3176d35_z.jpg.

[The Blade]

There’s no such thing as “European looking”. Pontid is found in South-East Europe and North-West Asia equally just about. Can’t be considered “European looking” unless it is found only in Europe like Brünn or Nordid.

As for “white”, that’s the eye of the beholder. You tell me if Maria Tsagkaraki or Alexis Papas look “white” to you, they are good examples of Pontids. https://www.malemodelscene.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Alexis-Papas-Polaroids-MaleModelSceneNet-03.jpg and https://live.staticflickr.com/3827/14283729534_b9e3176d35_z.jpg.
1) There are probably no or very few Pontids in Northwestern Asia. However, in Southwestern Asia (Turkey, Georgia) some can be found.
2) Papas is Atlanto-Med. Woman is a mix of Dinarid, CM and Atlantid.
3) Of course, there is a white race. Don't be fooled by modern bullshit.

[Dimitri159]

1) There are probably no or very few Pontids in Northwestern Asia. However, in Southwestern Asia (Turkey, Georgia) some can be found.
2) Papas is Atlanto-Med. Woman is a mix of Dinarid, CM and Atlantid.
3) Of course, there is a white race. Don't be fooled by modern bullshit.

What is the white race? Caucasoid? If that’s the case then even Armenoids are a part of the white race.

And Pontid is in the grouping of Atlanto-Med btw