Who were the Philistines?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWVtZLHm6kA

ABR Archaeologist Gary Byers joins us in the studio as we discuss the Philistines. Where did the Philistines come from? When did they settle in Canaan? How did they become the enemies of Israel? We'll be answering these questions and more on Episode 45 of Digging for Truth. (All episodes of Digging for Truth are produced by WBPH TV-60 and Associates for Biblical Research: www.BibleArchaeology.org)

[Nassbean]

Our analysis suggests that this genetic distinction is due to a European-related gene flow introduced in Ashkelon during either the end of the Bronze Age or the beginning of the Iron Age. This timing is in accord with estimates of the Philistines arrival to the coast of the Levant, [...] While our modeling suggests a southern European gene pool as a plausible source, future sampling in regions such as Cyprus, Sardinia, and the Aegean, as well as in the southern Levant, could better resolve this question.

Source : https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/7/eaax0061

So ancient philistines probably looked like modern south europeans.

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Modern coastal ones yes.

[Kmakkmak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWVtZLHm6kA

ABR Archaeologist Gary Byers joins us in the studio as we discuss the Philistines. Where did the Philistines come from? When did they settle in Canaan? How did they become the enemies of Israel? We'll be answering these questions and more on Episode 45 of Digging for Truth. (All episodes of Digging for Truth are produced by WBPH TV-60 and Associates for Biblical Research: www.BibleArchaeology.org)

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/04/r1b-m269-in-bronze-age-levant.html

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Source : https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/7/eaax0061

So ancient philistines probably looked like modern south europeans.

It's actually where the name Palestine comes from and the Romans aided them in the recapture of Caanan by the Hebrews ( fake Caananites Semities ) basically the two most people and influencial people in the levant were the Hittite ( who were the original Caananites anyway ) and the Philistines ( who were actually descended from the Aegean coast )

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https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/04/r1b-m269-in-bronze-age-levant.html

Pontic-Caspian steppe in Eastern Europe, and these expansions didn't impact the Levant in any direct or significant way.
Seems truthful, thanks. The Hitittes were just Anatolians not Steppe nomads.

R1b is from the Armenian highlands originally anyway

[Karol Klačansky]

It's actually where the name Palestine comes from and the Romans aided them in the recapture of Caanan by the Hebrews ( fake Caananites Semities ) basically the two most people and influencial people in the levant were the Hittite ( who were the original Caananites anyway ) and the Philistines ( who were actually descended from the Aegean coast )Lol you call Hebrews fake caananite semites but say the natives were palastinians and hittites? Hittites were indo Europeans they could never have been native to cannan purely based on this fact and we know the philistines were Greek type people. Get outta here with ya fake ass agenda

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Lol you call Hebrews fake caananite semites but say the natives were palastinians and hittites? Hittites were indo Europeans they could never have been native to cannan purely based on this fact and we know the philistines were Greek type people. Get outta here with ya fake ass agenda

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Yes they were because Caanan was a province in the Levant not a race of people. So yeah lol they were fake most Jews are related to the Smartians the Hittites were in the land of Caanan before the Hebrews as were the Philistines so again yeah, they were fake.

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Lol you call Hebrews fake cananite semites but say the natives were palastinians and hittites? Hittites were indo Europeans they could never have been native to cannan purely based on this fact and we know the philistines were Greek type people. Get outta here with ya fake ass agenda

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You probably don't even know what it is or who they were to save your life. The Hittites inhabited the Canaanite land during the Bronze Age it even says it in the Bible but I am guessing since you're Christian you knew that already lol


https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-near-eastern-world/who-were-the-hittites/
Who were the Hittites according to the Bible? The Hittites play a prominent role at key places in the Hebrew Bible: Ephron the Hittite sells Abraham the family burial ground (Genesis 23); Esau married Hittite women, and Rebecca despised them (Genesis 26:34); frequently they are listed as one of the inhabitants of Canaan (e.g., Exodus 13:5; Numbers 13:29; Joshua 11:3); King David had Uriah the Hittite killed in order to acquire Uriah’s wife (2 Samuel 11); King Solomon had Hittites among his many wives (1 Kings 10:29–11:2; 2 Chronicles 1:17); and the prophet Ezekiel degrades Israel with the metaphor of a Hittite mother (Ezekiel 16:3, 45).

[Karol Klačansky]

You probably don't even know what it is or who they were to save your life. The Cananites were related to the Hittites during the Bronze Age it even says it in the Bible but I am guessing since you're Christian you knew that already lol


https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-near-eastern-world/who-were-the-hittites/
Who were the Hittites according to the Bible? The Hittites play a prominent role at key places in the Hebrew Bible: Ephron the Hittite sells Abraham the family burial ground (Genesis 23); Esau married Hittite women, and Rebecca despised them (Genesis 26:34); frequently they are listed as one of the inhabitants of Canaan (e.g., Exodus 13:5; Numbers 13:29; Joshua 11:3); King David had Uriah the Hittite killed in order to acquire Uriah’s wife (2 Samuel 11); King Solomon had Hittites among his many wives (1 Kings 10:29–11:2; 2 Chronicles 1:17); and the prophet Ezekiel degrades Israel with the metaphor of a Hittite mother (Ezekiel 16:3, 45).I know the story of the hittites, but they originally came from somewhere else or are you unaware that they have an indo European background? Funny how you don't mention the philistines as not only the Bible but genetics tells us they had a foreign origin but you have zero argument here so u leave it out. The Jews also never claimed to be native cannanites, they literally claim a different origin, but you call them fake cannanite semites... Lol what is that. You're just a racist troll.

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[Konstantinos]

Your mum's ancestors :cool:

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I know the story of the hittites, but they originally came from somewhere else or are you unaware that they have an indo European background? Funny how you don't mention the philistines as not only the Bible but genetics tells us they had a foreign origin but you have zero argument here so u leave it out. The Jews also never claimed to be native cannanites, they literally claim a different origin, but you call them fake cannanite semites... Lol what is that. You're just a racist troll.

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No. You said the Canaanites couldn't have anything to do with the hittites because the Hittites were Indo European ( tell me about it because i am treated like a sand Nigger here for being related to them ) and the land of Canaan was always inhabited by Semites.

I mean no that's you not knowing even the Bible but yet you claim to be Christian. To be perfectly clear both Hittites and Philistines inhabited the land of Canaan you said it isn't possible because the land of Canaan was originally Israeli/Semitic Jewish.

The land of Canaan was originally Philistine Hittites. The Hittites were in the land of Canaan and was inhabited by Hittite before Jews most Jews hate them. So the Jewish/ Canaanite one against the age old ''the Canaanites were Hebrew'' is bullshit. The Canaanites were Hittite originally, plain and simple.

[Rabbit Hole]

Your mum's ancestors :cool:

Yes , my mum's ancestors. :D

[Karol Klačansky]

No. You said the Canaanites couldn't have anything to do with the hittites because the Hittites were Indo European ( tell me about it because i am treated like a sand Nigger here for being related to them ) and the land of Canaan was always inhabited by Semites.

I mean no that's you not knowing even the Bible but yet you claim to be Christian. To be perfectly clear both Hittites and Philistines ihabited the land of Canaan you said it isn't possible because the land of Canaan was originally Israeli/Semitic Jewish.

The land of Canaan was originally Philistine Hittites. The Hittites were in the land of Canaan was inhabited by Hittite before Jews most Jews hate them. So the Jewish/ Canaanite one against the age old ''the Canaanites were Hebrew'' is bullshit. The Canaanites were Hittite originally, plain and simple.Bro your making up arguments for me and then arguing against them, I never claimed Hittites had nothing to do with Cannanites, of course they did. Indo European hittites assimilated anatolians and Levantine people but their cultural identity and language was not native to cannan. By the time the Jews came out of Egypt they were most likely full blooded mena people (maybe not the nobility, who knows). The same happened with the philistines who also eventually assimilated pure cannanites, but their origin was foreign. Also, the Bible literally claims the Jews were foreign to the land of cannan. Abraham was from the land of ur and then settled in cannan, his descendants were then carried off into Egypt and came back later, but to call them fake cannanite semites in comparison to especially philistines is ridiculous. One thing is for sure, Arabs and the Arabic language along with Islam are not native to cannan. Jewish peope were way earlier in cannan and Israel than any Arabic culture was.

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Bro your making up arguments for me and then arguing against them, I never claimed Hittites had nothing to do with Cannanites, of course they did. Indo European hittites assimilated anatolians and Levantine people but their cultural identity and language was not native to cannan. By the time the Jews came out of Egypt they were most likely full blooded mena people (maybe not the nobility, who knows). The same happened with the philistines who also eventually assimilated pure cannanites, but their origin was foreign. Also, the Bible literally claims the Jews were foreign to the land of cannan. Abraham was from the land of ur and then settled in cannan, his descendants were then carried off into Egypt and came back later, but to call them fake cannanite semites in comparison to especially philistines is ridiculous. One thing is for sure, Arabs and the Arabic language along with Islam are not native to cannan. Jewish peope were way earlier in cannan and Israel than any Arabic culture was.

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I am not your ''bro'' the Canaanites wre originally Hittites the Hebrews intermarried with them but originally the Hitties were Canaanites. So the Jews were originally Canaanites is a bullshit one the Hittites inhabited the land of Canaan before the Hebrews so them claiming that they were originally related is a outragous lie never mind about me being ''racist'' This isn't a Christian forum go spread Christian Pro Israeli lies elsewhere.

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The Hittites occupied the ancient region of Anatolia (also known as Asia Minor, modern-day Turkey) prior to 1700 BCE, developed a culture apparently from the indigenous Hatti (and possibly the Hurrian) people, and expanded their territories into an empire which rivaled, and threatened, the established nation of Egypt.

They are repeatedly mentioned throughout the Hebrew Tanakh (also known as the Christian Old Testament) as the adversaries of the Israelites and their god. According to Genesis 10, they were the descendants of Heth, son of Canaan, who was the son of Ham, born of Noah (Genesis 10: 1-6). The name they are known by today, therefore, comes from the Bible and from the Amarna Letters of Egypt which reference a "Kingdom of Kheta" identified today as the `Kingdom of Hatti' (the designation the land of the Hittites was known by) but their own documents refer to them as Nesili, as do others of the time.

Know the Bible before you call yourself a Christian
https://www.ancient.eu/hittite/

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The Hittites occupied the ancient region of Anatolia (also known as Asia Minor, modern-day Turkey) prior to 1700 BCE, developed a culture apparently from the indigenous Hatti (and possibly the Hurrian) people, and expanded their territories into an empire which rivaled, and threatened, the established nation of Egypt.

They are repeatedly mentioned throughout the Hebrew Tanakh (also known as the Christian Old Testament) as the adversaries of the Israelites and their god. According to Genesis 10, they were the descendants of Heth, son of Canaan, who was the son of Ham, born of Noah (Genesis 10: 1-6). The name they are known by today, therefore, comes from the Bible and from the Amarna Letters of Egypt which reference a "Kingdom of Kheta" identified today as the `Kingdom of Hatti' (the designation the land of the Hittites was known by) but their own documents refer to them as Nesili, as do others of the time.

Know the Bible before you call yourself a Christian
https://www.ancient.eu/hittite/

[PaleoEuropean]

Yes they were because Caanan was a province in the Levant not a race of people. So yeah lol they were fake most Jews are related to the Smartians the Hittites were in the land of Caanan before the Hebrews as were the Philistines so again yeah, they were fake.

Caananites were a race of people from Egyptian and Native stock. They are descendants of Ham.

[Karol Klačansky]

I am not your ''bro'' the Canaanites wre originally Hittites the Hebrews intermarried with them but originally the Hitties were Canaanites. So the Jews were originally Canaanites is a bullshit one the Hittites inhabited the land of Canaan before the Hebrews so them claiming that they were originally related is a outragous lie never mind about me being ''racist'' This isn't a Christian forum go spread Christian Pro Israeli lies elsewhere.

Son youre again making up some fake ass arguments. Hittites were cannanites but even they ultimately had a foreign origin doesn't matter if the Jews came later, plus hittites main kingdom was in Anatolia, cannan was on the periphery. Ancient Jews were also in the region way before Arabs or Islam was so what's ur points. Arabs are foreign invaders and Islam was started by a pedophilic war lord. Nothing you ever say or do will change this fact. Just accept the fact that Jewish people have a right to be in Israel, they obviously do a much better job at running a country than any of you Arabs do.

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Caananites were a race of people from Egyptian and Native stock. They are descendants of Ham.

The info is above but kind of

[happycow]

we wuz hittites n sheeit

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Son youre again making up some fake ass arguments. Hittites were cannanites but even they ultimately had a foreign origin doesn't matter if the Jews came later, plus hittites main kingdom was in Anatolia, cannan was on the periphery. Ancient Jews were also in the region way before Arabs or Islam was so what's ur points. Arabs are foreign invaders and Islam was started by a pedophilic war lord. Nothing you ever say or do will change this fact. Just accept the fact that Jewish people have a right to be in Israel, they obviously do a much better job at running a country than any of you Arabs do.

You are an Arab. Read the description the Hitties were the indigious to the levant yeah, feel jealous Christian.

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Son youre again making up some fake ass arguments. Hittites were cannanites but even they ultimately had a foreign origin doesn't matter if the Jews came later, plus hittites main kingdom was in Anatolia, cannan was on the periphery. Ancient Jews were also in the region way before Arabs or Islam was so what's ur points. Arabs are foreign invaders and Islam was started by a pedophilic war lord. Nothing you ever say or do will change this fact. Just accept the fact that Jewish people have a right to be in Israel, they obviously do a much better job at running a country than any of you Arabs do.

You are an Arab the info is above. The Hittites were indigenous to the Levant more than what your Jews are. Yeah, feel jealous. :D

[PaleoEuropean]

we wuz hittites n sheeit

My favorite Philistine <3

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we wuz hittites n sheeit

LOL do you have anything to contribute any additional ifno etc

[Tauromachos]

It was the Natufians who were

[happycow]

My favorite Philistine <3

:heartbea:

[Karol Klačansky]

You are an Arab. Read the description the Hitties were the indigious to the levant yeah, feel jealous Christian. Hittites were in Canaa before isralites settled there, who's denying this?

Also, you claiming some connection to the hittites is laughable. Modern Jews have more of a connection to them than you do. Don't be annoyed because Jews came back to their homeland and are running a successful country while the rest of the middle east, including Anatolia is a dump that no person wants to live in. Trust me I'm not jelous, I can't be jelous of people who have bought into a cult, who think dogs are evil, can only wipe their ass with their left hand, and who think a pedophile was a prophet.

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[Rabbit Hole]

It was the Natufians who were
There are enough descriptions of the philistines and Hittites both at what time periods they were in Canaan. Probably the Philistines were there even before the Hittite, but they didn't really descend from them on the same scale

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It was the Natufians who were
There are enough descriptions of the Philistines and Hittites both at what time periods they were in Canaan. Probably the Philistines were there even before the Hittite, but they didn't really descend from them on the same scale

[happycow]

LOL do you have anything to contribute any additional ifno etc

No

[Dr_Maul]

The descendants of the Philistines currently reside in Harlem, Atlanta and Detroit

[Tauromachos]

There are enough descriptions of the philistines and Hittites both at what time periods they were in Canaan. Probably the Philistines were there even before the Hittite, but they didn't really descend from them on the same scale

Philistines came from Crete or Cyprus to Palestine

But the native people of the Levant were the Natufians

[PaleoEuropean]

The descendants of the Philistines currently reside in Harlem, Atlanta and Detroit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwJvgPJ9xw

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Hittites were in Canaa before isralites settled there, who's denying this?

Also, you claiming some connection to the hittites is laughable. Modern Jews have more of a connection to them than you do. Don't be annoyed because Jews came back to their homeland and are running a successful country while the rest of the middle east, including Anatolia is a dump that no person wants to live in. Trust me I'm not jelous, I can't be jelous of people who have bought into a cult, who think dogs are evil, can only wipe their ass with their left hand, and who think a pedophile was a prophet.

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And Jesus was a Jew pedo. It still doesn't change the fact that the Bible says the people of Canaan were Philistines/Hitties . You Arab.

[Rabbit Hole]

Philistines came from Crete or Cyprus to Palestine

But the native people of the Levant were the Natufians

No Philistines
Hittites
Natufians were just farmers.

[Rabbit Hole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwJvgPJ9xw

That's a lame example of rap lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcCK99wHrk0

[Karol Klačansky]

And Jesus was a Jew pedo. It still doesn't change the fact that the Bible says the people of Canaan were Philistines/Hitties . You Arab.Lol in what way was Jesus a pedo? Muhammed literally admitted to marrying a 6 year old and sleeping with her at the age of 9, that's a pre pubescent child. Jesus lived an utterally perfect life. I've been saying from the beggining that the Bible clearly says Jews weren't caananites. It's only moder historians who deny the accuracy of the Bible that claim Jews were caananites. Actually I have no problem with Arabs, it's Islam that's the problem, not the people. Unfortunately most Arabs traded common sense for a fascist type of religion that places their ethnicity above everyone else, but the reality is their ideology and culture is second rate compared to Jews and Christians and they have to claim fake connections to old kingdoms to feel better, when in reality they should just embrace the truth and forget Islam.

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[Tauromachos]

No Philistines
Hittites
Natufians were just farmers.


Hittites were from Anatolia where their capital Chatushash was but they also traveled to Mesopotamia and the Levant where they mixed
with Hebrews

[Rabbit Hole]

Lol in what way was Jesus a pedo? Muhammed literally admitted to marrying a 6 year old and sleeping with her at the age of 9, that's a pre pubescent child. Jesus lived an utterally perfect life. I've been saying from the beggining that the Bible clearly says Jews weren't caananites. It's only moder historians who deny the accuracy of the Bible that claim Jews were caananites. Actually I have no problem with Arabs, it's Islam that's the problem, not the people. Unfortunately most Arabs traded common sense for a fascist type of religion that places their ethnicity above everyone else, but the reality is their ideology and culture is second rate compared to Jews and Christians and they have to claim fake connections to old kingdoms to feel better, when in reality they should just embrace the truth and forget Islam.

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I don't have time for the autism, dude. When people want to talk about the Canaanites being related the Hittite ( as said in the Bible ) then I will talk to them.

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Hittites were from Anatolia where their capital Chatushash was but they also traveled to Mesopotamia and the Levant where they mixed
with Hebrews

The point was the Canaanites being related to the Hititte. which according to the Bible they were. They may of mixed with Yids during the old testament because Jews were also in those regions during those times. But they were there before Jews anyway

[Kamal900]

Lol in what way was Jesus a pedo? Muhammed literally admitted to marrying a 6 year old and sleeping with her at the age of 9, that's a pre pubescent child. Jesus lived an utterally perfect life. I've been saying from the beggining that the Bible clearly says Jews weren't caananites. It's only moder historians who deny the accuracy of the Bible that claim Jews were caananites. Actually I have no problem with Arabs, it's Islam that's the problem, not the people. Unfortunately most Arabs traded common sense for a fascist type of religion that places their ethnicity above everyone else, but the reality is their ideology and culture is second rate compared to Jews and Christians and they have to claim fake connections to old kingdoms to feel better, when in reality they should just embrace the truth and forget Islam.

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Like what exactly? We Arabs had existed long before Islam, and we too have had our own ancient civilizations and kingdoms as well.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?306227-The-Historical-and-Cultural-Heritage-of-Arabia&p=6607536&viewfull=1#post6607536

I'm an Arab and an atheist btw.

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Like what exactly? We Arabs had existed long before Islam, and we too have had our own ancient civilizations and kingdoms as well.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?306227-The-Historical-and-Cultural-Heritage-of-Arabia&p=6607536&viewfull=1#post6607536

I'm an Arab and an atheist btw.

The point was the Canaanite -Hittite connection and the Canaanites being related to the hittite as said in the Bible.

[Kamal900]

The point was the Canaanites being related to the Hititte. which according to the Bible they were. They may of mixed with Yids during the old testament because Jews were also in those regions during those times. But they were there before Jews anyway

Jews and Samaritans as well as the Arabized Levantines of the Southern Levant like Palestinians are descended from the ancient Israelites which were a Hebrew speaking Canaanites natives in what is now Israel/Palestine. Jews came from the Southern Israelite kingdom called Judah while Samaritans came from the Kingdom of Israel in the North. Both of these kingdoms arose independently from one another, and there is no archaeological evidence that Solomon had existed nor that both of these kingdoms were once unified under the same monarchy.

[Tauromachos]

The point was the Canaanites being related to the Hititte. which according to the Bible they were. They may of mixed with Yids during the old testament because Jews were also in those regions during those times. But they were there before Jews anyway

Canaanites were Semitic people of Palestine

Philistines were Greek Invadors n shiettttttttt

[Rabbit Hole]

And the Philistines. Who were probably there before the Hittites

[Rabbit Hole]

Canaanites were Semitic people of Palestine

Philistines were Greek Invadors n shiettttttttt

Canaanites were related to the Hittite

Philistines descended from the Aegean coast.

[Kamal900]

Canaanites were Semitic people of Palestine

Philistines were Greek Invadors n shiettttttttt

And they were natives to Western Jordan, Lebanon and Coastal Syria as well. Yes, the Philistines share a lot of common cultural traits with the Mycenaeans and so on, and the fact that both Philistines groups have Aegean ancestry(one group is around 40 to 60% while the other is between 10 to 20%) speaks volumes of their ancestral origins though they got mixed with the locals.

[Rabbit Hole]

Jews and Samaritans as well as the Arabized Levantines of the Southern Levant like Palestinians are descended from the ancient Israelites which were a Hebrew speaking Canaanites natives in what is now Israel/Palestine. Jews came from the Southern Israelite kingdom called Judah while Samaritans came from the Kingdom of Israel in the North. Both of these kingdoms arose independently from one another, and there is no archaeological evidence that Solomon had existed nor that both of these kingdoms were once unified under the same monarchy.
The point was the Hittite -Canaanite connection as said in the Bible. Hebrews ( Jews ) intermarried with them during the old testiment times that doesn't mean that the Canaanites were originally Jewish/Semitic or Palestinian.

Both Palestinians and Jewish people have Samartian markers

[Kamal900]

The point was the Hittite -Canaanite connection as said in the Bible. Hebrews ( Jews ) intermarried with them during the old testiment times that doesn't mean that the Canaanites were originally Jewish/Semitic or Palestinian.

Both Palestinians and Jewish people have Samartian markers

:picard2:

So, archaeology and epigraphy means nothing to you, eh?

[PaleoEuropean]

The point was the Hittite -Canaanite connection as said in the Bible. Hebrews ( Jews ) intermarried with them during the old testiment times that doesn't mean that the Canaanites were originally Jewish/Semitic or Palestinian.

Both Palestinians and Jewish people have Samartian markers

Samaritan's were Northern Hebrews smart guy.

[Rabbit Hole]

And they were natives to Western Jordan, Lebanon and Coastal Syria as well. Yes, the Philistines share a lot of common cultural traits with the Mycenaeans and so on, and the fact that both Philistines groups have Aegean ancestry(one group is around 40 to 60% while the other is between 10 to 20%) speaks volumes of their ancestral origins though they got mixed with the locals.

The land of Canaan was Western Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and coastal Palestine as told in the Bible. The Canaanite Hititte connection was pre historic before Hebrew Semites inhabited those regions. Both Jews and Palestinians have Samartian matches. Nothing to do with the Canaanites. You can't inhabit a region and claim to be indigious if you have nothing in common with them. Samaritans are nothing to do with the Canaanites. The Canaanites were originally Hittite

[Kamal900]

Samaritan's were Northern Hebrews smart guy.

They came from the Kingdom of Israel in the North, yes. The kingdom got destroyed by the Neo-Assyrians in the 7th century BC while the Kingdom of Judah prospered after that before the Neo-Babylonians showed up.

[Rabbit Hole]

And they were natives to Western Jordan, Lebanon and Coastal Syria as well. Yes, the Philistines share a lot of common cultural traits with the Mycenaeans and so on, and the fact that both Philistines groups have Aegean ancestry(one group is around 40 to 60% while the other is between 10 to 20%) speaks volumes of their ancestral origins though they got mixed with the locals.

The land of Canaan was Western Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and coastal Palestine as told in the Bible. The Canaanite Hititte connection was pre historic before Hebrew Semites inhabited those regions. Both Jews and Palestinians have Samartian matches. Nothing to do with the Canaanites. You can't inhabit a region and claim to be indigious if you have nothing in common with them. Samaritans are nothing to do with the Canaanites. The Canaanites were originally Hittite

[Tauromachos]

The land of Canaan was Western Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and coastal Palestine as told in the Bible. The Canaanite Hititte connection was pre historic before Hebrew Semites inhabited those regions. Both Jews and Palestinians have Samartian matches. Nothing to do with the Canaanites. You can't inhabit a region and claim to be indigious if you have nothing in common with them. Samaritans are nothing to do with the Canaanites. The Canaanites were originally Hittite

No Western Turkey was not Canaan

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Samaritan's were Northern Hebrews smart guy.

I am a woman I am talking about the Canaanites being originally Hittite as said by the Bible.

[Kamal900]

The land of Canaan was Western Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and coastal Palestine as told in the Bible. The Canaanite Hititte connection was pre historic before Hebrew Semites inhabited those regions. Both Jews and Palestinians have Samartian matches. Nothing to do with the Canaanites. You can't inhabit a region and claim to be indigious if you have nothing in common with them. Samaritans are nothing to do with the Canaanites. The Canaanites were originally Hittite

No. Canaanites spoke NW Semitic languages and dialects that also includes modern day Hebrew as well. Israelites came from the Canaanites which make them Canaanites. Don't take the bible too seriously when it comes to Biblical accounts of ancient peoples and cultures.

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No Western Turkey was not Canaan

Yes it was Hurrian was now turkey Armenia

Other theories cite `Canaan’ as derived from the Hurrian language for `purple’ and, as the Greeks knew the Canaanites as `Phoenicians’ (Greek for `purple’) and as the Phoenicians worked in purple dye and so were called by the Greeks `purple people’, this explanation is the most probable. The theory has also been advanced that the name comes from the Hebrew root-verb kana which denotes order from chaos, a blending, or synchronous existence. Scholars J. Maxwell Miller and John H. Hayes claim no definitive meaning for the name citing ancient sources which used it simply as a place name:

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No Western Turkey was not Canaan

Yes it was Hurrian was now turkey Armenia

Other theories cite `Canaan’ as derived from the Hurrian language for `purple’ and, as the Greeks knew the Canaanites as `Phoenicians’ (Greek for `purple’) and as the Phoenicians worked in purple dye and so were called by the Greeks `purple people’, this explanation is the most probable. The theory has also been advanced that the name comes from the Hebrew root-verb kana which denotes order from chaos, a blending, or synchronous existence. Scholars J. Maxwell Miller and John H. Hayes claim no definitive meaning for the name citing ancient sources which used it simply as a place name:

[PaleoEuropean]

I am a woman I am talking about the Canaanites being originally Hittite as said by the Bible.

You have obviously never even read the bible xD. Canaanites predate the Hittites so how can they come from them? You are obviously a sock account of a current member who posts this same nonsense.

בראשית ט:כב וַיַּרְא חָם אֲבִי כְנַעַן אֵת עֶרְוַת אָבִיו וַיַּגֵּד לִשְׁנֵי אֶחָיו בַּחוּץ…
ט:כד וַיִּיקֶץ נֹחַ מִיֵּינוֹ וַיֵּדַע אֵת אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה לוֹ בְּנוֹ הַקָּטָן.
ט:כה וַיֹּאמֶר אָרוּר כְּנָעַן עֶבֶד עֲבָדִים יִהְיֶה לְאֶחָיו. Gen 9:22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness and told his two brothers who were outside…
9:24 When Noah awoke from his drunken stupor he learned what his youngest son had done to him.
9:25 So he said, “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves he will be to his brothers.”

[Rabbit Hole]

No. Canaanites spoke NW Semitic languages and dialects that also includes modern day Hebrew as well. Israelites came from the Canaanites which make them Canaanites. Don't take the bible too seriously when it comes to Biblical accounts of ancient peoples and cultures.

Israelites do not came from the Canaanites the Bible said that the originally the Canaanites were Hitties and descend from them, they even spoke a form of Hititte language. Israelites do not come from Canaan. Israelites like the Palestinians descend from Samaritans

[Tauromachos]

Yes it was Hurrian was now turkey Armenia

Other theories cite `Canaan’ as derived from the Hurrian language for `purple’ and, as the Greeks knew the Canaanites as `Phoenicians’ (Greek for `purple’) and as the Phoenicians worked in purple dye and so were called by the Greeks `purple people’, this explanation is the most probable. The theory has also been advanced that the name comes from the Hebrew root-verb kana which denotes order from chaos, a blending, or synchronous existence. Scholars J. Maxwell Miller and John H. Hayes claim no definitive meaning for the name citing ancient sources which used it simply as a place name:

Western Turkey was niether Armenian nor Canaan

Western Turkey had Greeks,Phrygians and Trojans

[Rabbit Hole]

You have obviously never even read the bible xD. Canaanites predate the Hittites so how can they come from them? You are obviously a sock account of a current member who posts this same nonsense.

בראשית ט:כב וַיַּרְא חָם אֲבִי כְנַעַן אֵת עֶרְוַת אָבִיו וַיַּגֵּד לִשְׁנֵי אֶחָיו בַּחוּץ…
ט:כד וַיִּיקֶץ נֹחַ מִיֵּינוֹ וַיֵּדַע אֵת אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה לוֹ בְּנוֹ הַקָּטָן.
ט:כה וַיֹּאמֶר אָרוּר כְּנָעַן עֶבֶד עֲבָדִים יִהְיֶה לְאֶחָיו. Gen 9:22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness and told his two brothers who were outside…
9:24 When Noah awoke from his drunken stupor he learned what his youngest son had done to him.
9:25 So he said, “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves he will be to his brothers.”

You obviously have not

The earliest habitation in the region was around the city of Jericho in the Paleolithic Age and this early rural community would then develop into the city which is the oldest urban center in the region (and, arguably, the world). Other cities developed during the Early Bronze Age but were abandoned, probably because of overpopulation, and the people returned to an agrarian lifestyle for a number of years. Cities again grew up during the Middle Bronze Age which saw the development of trade with other civilizations and, most notably, Egypt. Canaan (also referred to as Phoenicia at this time) continued to prosper until c. 1250-c. 1150 BCE during the so-called Bronze Age Collapse. The biblical books of Joshua and Numbers attribute the destruction of Canaan to the Hebrew general Joshua and his conquest but this claim has been challenged by modern-day scholars.
https://isthatinthebible.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/canaanites-amorites-and-hittites-in-history-and-the-bible/

[Tauromachos]

Yes it was Hurrian was now turkey Armenia


Neither Armenian

Western Turkey had Greeks,Phrygians and Trojans

[Kamal900]

You have obviously never even read the bible xD. Canaanites predate the Hittites so how can they come from them? You are obviously a sock account of a current member who posts this same nonsense.

בראשית ט:כב וַיַּרְא חָם אֲבִי כְנַעַן אֵת עֶרְוַת אָבִיו וַיַּגֵּד לִשְׁנֵי אֶחָיו בַּחוּץ…
ט:כד וַיִּיקֶץ נֹחַ מִיֵּינוֹ וַיֵּדַע אֵת אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה לוֹ בְּנוֹ הַקָּטָן.
ט:כה וַיֹּאמֶר אָרוּר כְּנָעַן עֶבֶד עֲבָדִים יִהְיֶה לְאֶחָיו. Gen 9:22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness and told his two brothers who were outside…
9:24 When Noah awoke from his drunken stupor he learned what his youngest son had done to him.
9:25 So he said, “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves he will be to his brothers.”

Hittites were an Indo-European Anatolians who arrived in Anatolia around 4,000 years ago while Canaanites were a North-Western Semitic group native to Canaan which consists of today's Israel/Palestine, Western Jordan, Lebanon and Coastal Syria. They belong to the Central Semitic branch like Arabic, Dedanitic, Taymanitic, Hisaitic, Old South Arabian languages(Sabaeans and others) and so on.

[Kamal900]

You have obviously never even read the bible xD. Canaanites predate the Hittites so how can they come from them? You are obviously a sock account of a current member who posts this same nonsense.

בראשית ט:כב וַיַּרְא חָם אֲבִי כְנַעַן אֵת עֶרְוַת אָבִיו וַיַּגֵּד לִשְׁנֵי אֶחָיו בַּחוּץ…
ט:כד וַיִּיקֶץ נֹחַ מִיֵּינוֹ וַיֵּדַע אֵת אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה לוֹ בְּנוֹ הַקָּטָן.
ט:כה וַיֹּאמֶר אָרוּר כְּנָעַן עֶבֶד עֲבָדִים יִהְיֶה לְאֶחָיו. Gen 9:22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness and told his two brothers who were outside…
9:24 When Noah awoke from his drunken stupor he learned what his youngest son had done to him.
9:25 So he said, “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves he will be to his brothers.”

Hittites were an Indo-European Anatolians who arrived in Anatolia around 4,000 years ago while Canaanites were a North-Western Semitic group native to Canaan which consists of today's Israel/Palestine, Western Jordan, Lebanon and Coastal Syria. They belong to the Central Semitic branch like Arabic, Dedanitic, Taymanitic, Hisaitic, Old South Arabian languages(Sabaeans and others) and so on.

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It has become well-established in archaeology that ancient Israel cannot be distinguished from the other tribes of Canaan. Israel, a polity that emerged in the hill country of Palestine during the late Bronze Age, existed in complete cultural, material, and linguistic continuity with the Canaanite societies that preceded it. The Merneptah Stele, which provides the earliest known reference to Israel, lists Israel as one of several peoples conquered by Pharaoh Merneptah during a campaign in Canaan. In historical terms, the Israelites were indigenous Canaanites, not external conquerors. The name “Israel” itself contains the name “El”, the high god of the Canaanite pantheon.

In short, “Canaan” in ancient texts is mainly a geographical and political term that refers to land, and not to any specific ethnic group or culture. (Noll, 2007, 62–64) It was mainly a label applied to the region of Phoenicia and Palestine by outsiders. As Danish scholar Niels Peter Lemche puts it, “The Canaanites of the ancient Near East did not know that they were themselves Canaanites. Only when they had so to speak ‘left’ their original home, only when they lived in some other part of the Mediterranean area, did they acknowledge that they had been Canaanites.” (p. 152)

The Cananites during the Bronze Age were Hititte as said in the Bible. Stop getting the land of Canaan mixed with Palestine

[PaleoEuropean]

Hittites were an Indo-European Anatolians who arrived in Anatolia around 4,000 years ago while Canaanites were a North-Western Semitic group native to Canaan which consists of today's Israel/Palestine, Western Jordan, Lebanon and Coastal Syria. They belong to the Central Semitic branch like Arabic, Dedanitic, Taymanitic, Hisaitic, Old South Arabian languages(Sabaeans and others) and so on.

True but the biblical Hethites and the contemporary Hittites are not one in the same. The Biblical Hethites lived in Mid-Southern Lebanon and stretched eastward toward the Syrian Euphrates. Should be mentioned.

[Kamal900]

Israelites do not came from the Canaanites the Bible said that the originally the Canaanites were Hitties and descend from them, they even spoke a form of Hititte language. Israelites do not come from Canaan. Israelites like the Palestinians descend from Samaritans

Don't take the bible as a historical book based on reality. According to archaeologists, linguists, ethnographers and epigraphy, Canaanites were a North-Western Semitic peoples, and their closest linguistic affinities are to the Aramaic and Amorite speakers of the Levant and Mesopotamia. North-Western Semitic languages and dialects belong to the Central Semitic dialectic group like Arabic, Old South Arabian languages, Hisaitic(the language of Eastern Arabia), Dedanitic(the language of tghe oasis of Al-Ula), Taymanitic(the language of the oasis of Tamya; though it\s unclear on whether or not the language belong to North-West Semitic group like Hebrew or an independent language) and Thamudic B and etc.

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https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-near-eastern-world/who-were-the-hittites/

Who were the Hittites according to archaeology? As early as 1900 B.C.E., an Indo-European people began to settle in what is now Turkey. By the 16th century B.C.E., they were powerful enough to invade Babylon. Their might continued to expand until they were a superpower on the level with Egypt and Assyria. Relations with Egypt were particularly volatile and included the famous Battle of Kadesh and the eventual signing of the world’s oldest peace treaty. The Hittite capital, Hattusa, has been excavated, revealing a formidable and religious empire.
The Hittite were in Syria apart of Canaan By the 16th century B.C.E ( before the Hebrew Semite presence ) they were in Babylon evidence shows that Hattusa was invaded and burned in the early 12th century B.C.E., but this was after the city had largely been abandoned. In the 14th century B.C.E., Carchemish in northern Syria again land of Canaan

Who were the Hittites according to the Bible? The Hittites play a prominent role at key places in the Hebrew Bible: Ephron the Hittite sells Abraham the family burial ground (Genesis 23); Esau married Hittite women, and Rebecca despised them (Genesis 26:34); frequently they are listed as one of the inhabitants of Canaan (e.g., Exodus 13:5; Numbers 13:29; Joshua 11:3); King David had Uriah the Hittite killed in order to acquire Uriah’s wife (2 Samuel 11); King Solomon had Hittites among his many wives (1 Kings 10:29–11:2; 2 Chronicles 1:17); and the prophet Ezekiel degrades Israel with the metaphor of a Hittite mother (Ezekiel 16:3, 45).
The Hittite intermarried with Jews during the old Testiment they were not originally Jewish

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Don't take the bible as a historical book based on reality. According to archaeologists, linguists, ethnographers and epigraphy, Canaanites were a North-Western Semitic peoples, and their closest linguistic affinities are to the Aramaic and Amorite speakers of the Levant and Mesopotamia. North-Western Semitic languages and dialects belong to the Central Semitic dialectic group like Arabic, Old South Arabian languages, Hisaitic(the language of Eastern Arabia), Dedanitic(the language of tghe oasis of Al-Ula), Taymanitic(the language of the oasis of Tamya; though it\s unclear on whether or not the language belong to North-West Semitic group like Hebrew or an independent language) and Thamudic B and etc.

The Hittite Canaanite presence pre dates the Hittite Hebrew intermixing. The Canaanites were originaly Hittite as said in the Bible

[Kamal900]

True but the biblical Hethites and the contemporary Hittites are not one in the same. The Biblical Hethites lived in Mid-Southern Lebanon and stretched eastward toward the Syrian Euphrates. Should be mentioned.

Neo-Hitites of the Levant weren't indeed ethnically Hitites but rather were Anatolian Indo-European Luwians along with Aramaeans as well.

[PaleoEuropean]

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-near-eastern-world/who-were-the-hittites/

Who were the Hittites according to archaeology? As early as 1900 B.C.E., an Indo-European people began to settle in what is now Turkey. By the 16th century B.C.E., they were powerful enough to invade Babylon. Their might continued to expand until they were a superpower on the level with Egypt and Assyria. Relations with Egypt were particularly volatile and included the famous Battle of Kadesh and the eventual signing of the world’s oldest peace treaty. The Hittite capital, Hattusa, has been excavated, revealing a formidable and religious empire.
The Hittite were in Syria apart of Canaan By the 16th century B.C.E ( before the Hebrew Semite presence ) they were in Babylon evidence shows that Hattusa was invaded and burned in the early 12th century B.C.E., but this was after the city had largely been abandoned. In the 14th century B.C.E., Carchemish in northern Syria again land of Canaan

Who were the Hittites according to the Bible? The Hittites play a prominent role at key places in the Hebrew Bible: Ephron the Hittite sells Abraham the family burial ground (Genesis 23); Esau married Hittite women, and Rebecca despised them (Genesis 26:34); frequently they are listed as one of the inhabitants of Canaan (e.g., Exodus 13:5; Numbers 13:29; Joshua 11:3); King David had Uriah the Hittite killed in order to acquire Uriah’s wife (2 Samuel 11); King Solomon had Hittites among his many wives (1 Kings 10:29–11:2; 2 Chronicles 1:17); and the prophet Ezekiel degrades Israel with the metaphor of a Hittite mother (Ezekiel 16:3, 45).
The Hittite intermarried with Jews during the old Testiment they were not originally Jewish

Read your own sources jackass.

[Tauromachos]

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[Kamal900]

The Hittite Canaanite presence pre dates the Hittite Hebrew intermixing. The Canaanites were originaly Hittite as said in the Bible

I don't want to get banned by Loki, but all I have to say is that I\m right and you're wrong on the whole thing since it doesn't fit in reality of things based on archaeological and epigraphic evidence on the whole thing.

[PaleoEuropean]

Hittites were an Indo-European Anatolians who arrived in Anatolia around 4,000 years ago while Canaanites were a North-Western Semitic group native to Canaan which consists of today's Israel/Palestine, Western Jordan, Lebanon and Coastal Syria. They belong to the Central Semitic branch like Arabic, Dedanitic, Taymanitic, Hisaitic, Old South Arabian languages(Sabaeans and others) and so on.

Yea Canaanites have dwelt in the region for over 9000 years. They are as native as it gets.

[Rabbit Hole]

The Hittites, also spelled Hethites, were a group of people mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. Under the names בני-חת (bny-ḥt "children of Heth", who was the son of Canaan) and חתי (ḥty "native of Heth") they are mentioned several times as living in or near Canaan since the time of Abraham (estimated to be between 2000 BC and 1500 BC) to the time of Ezra after the return from the Babylonian exile (around 450 BC). Their ancestor Heth (Hebrew: חֵת, Modern: H̱et, Tiberian: Ḥēṯ, ḥt in the consonant-only Hebrew script) is said in Genesis to be a son of Canaan, son of Ham, son of Noah.

In the late 19th century, the biblical Hittites were identified with a newly discovered Indo-European-speaking empire of Anatolia, a major regional power through most of the 2nd millennium BC, who therefore came to be known as the Hittites. This nomenclature is used today as a matter of convention, regardless of debates about possible identities between the Anatolian Hittite Empire and the biblical Hittites.

The Hittite were the Son of of Canaan Son of Ham. The Canaanites were Hittite. The Jewish intermixing of the Hittites came during the old testiment. The Canaanites were Hittite

[PaleoEuropean]

I don't want to get banned by Loki, but all I have to say is that I\m right and you're wrong on the whole thing since it doesn't fit in reality of things based on archaeological and epigraphic evidence on the whole thing.

You are very educated on the matter.

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You are very educated on the matter.

Read what is says above in full detail. The Hititte were the son of Ham the Canaanites.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan_(son_of_Ham) Biblical Canaanites

Hebrew Bible, include:

Sidonians
Hittites, children of Heth <-------------------------------------
Jebusites
Amorites
Girgashites
Hivites
Arkites
Sinites
Arvadites
Zemarites
Hamathites

[Voskos]

Ashkelon, Ashdod is now under Israeli administration. Gaza is the only part Palestinians still live in.

[Rabbit Hole]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hittites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth_(Bible)

Heth (Bible)
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Heth is, according to Genesis 10:15, the second son of Canaan, who is son of Ham, son of Noah. Heth is the ancestor of the Hittites, second of the twelve Canaanite nations descended from his sons, who lived near Hebron (Genesis 23:3,7).[1]

In Genesis 10:15-16, Heth is placed between Sidon and the Jebusites, Amorites, Girgasites, Hivites, Arkite, Sinite, Arvadite, Zemarite, Hamathite and other peoples, showing their descent through their children, called "Children of Heth"(Genesis 23:3, 5, 7, 10, 16, 18, 20).[2]

Heth means That who Jehovah strengthened.[3]

References

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Ashkelon, Ashdod is now under Israeli administration. Gaza is the only part Palestinians still live in.

Ashkelon is a old Philistine burial ground area.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/2019/07/ancient-dna-reveal-philistine-origins/

[PaleoEuropean]

Read what is says above in full detail. The Hititte were the son of Ham the Canaanites.


Once again Biblical Hittite ≠ Anatolian Hittites


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hittites

[Dr_Maul]

Read what is says above in full detail. The Hititte were the son of Ham the Canaanites.

Yes, and according to Greek Mythology I am the descendant of Zeus and Andromeda. Now which is more reliable, that or genetic evidence?

[Rabbit Hole]

Once again Biblical Hittite ≠ Anatolian Hittites


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hittites
Once again the hititte were the same Anatolian people.

The Hittites were Canaanites.

https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/the-hittites/
Hittites, The
The Hittites were the dark descendants of Heth, the second son of Canaan, youngest son of Ham. In the Book of Genesis, they are declared to be one of the 12 Canaanite nations dwelling inside or close to Canaan from the time of Abraham up to Ezra’s era. They lived in the Promised Land to the Israelites. That’s why God commanded the Israelites to eradicate them. But they were not destroyed and still dwell in southern Palestine and around Jerusalem with the Hebrews. The Hittite empire flourished and were shown on the Biblical Timeline chart starting from 2300 BC to about 1100 BC

The Great Hittite Empire

The Hittite Empire is mentioned over and over in the Bible as one of the most powerful empires in the ancient times. Scholars used to question the accuracy of the Bible saying that such a big Hittite Empire was only hearsay since it was nowhere to be found. They considered the Hittites a small group of people living in the hills of Canaan together with Abraham.

Nice try but anyway, the Hittites were Canaanites. The Hebrew presence of the intermixing of the Canaanites came during the old testiment ( 3,000 years ago ) the Hittite presence in Canaan during the bronze Age was Anatolian. The Hittites were Canaanites.
https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/the-hittites/

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Yes, and according to Greek Mythology I am the descendant of Zeus and Andromeda. Now which is more reliable, that or genetic evidence?

There is genetic evidence that the people that inhabited Canaan during the Bronze Age are related to the Hittites. The Hebrew presence of the intermixing came during the old testiment ( 3,000 years ago ) the Hittites were Canaanites.

[Rgvgjhvv]

So how long until this troll is banned? Send me your bets people!

[PaleoEuropean]

So how long until this troll is banned? Send me your bets people!

Until Loki reads that he defiled Jesus's name by calling him a sexual deviant/

[Rgvgjhvv]

Until Loki reads that he defiled Jesus's name by calling him a sexual deviant/

Mashallah

[Rabbit Hole]

So how long until this troll is banned? Send me your bets people!

You can't call someone a troll because they disagree with you and bring evidence. Sometimes men can be wrong in life. If they are going to bump my thread about the Philistines they could at least bring evidence and not spam with personal opinon.

The Canaanites during the Bronze Age, were Hititte.

[Rgvgjhvv]

You can't call someone a troll because they disagree with you and bring evidence. Sometimes men can be wrong in life. If they are going to bump my thread about the Philistines they could at least bring evidence and not spam with personal opinon.

The Canaanites during the Bronze Age, were Hititte.

Actually the Canaanites were an articulated resperint. They come from the River Jordan where their breasts were put to good use. Since the Bronze Age there's been a multitude of liquatious severence which is clearly shown in their mitochondrial DNA splatter. It has absolutely nothing to do with Hittites who were black Greeks with Arabian admixture. I don't understand how you don't already know this. It's common sense

[Kamal900]

You are very educated on the matter.

Thank you, but a human being can have a sense of logical sense on the whole thing by doing a bit of research on the whole thing rather than putting your brain in the state of hibernation.

[MinervaItalica]

You can't call someone a troll because they disagree with you and bring evidence. Sometimes men can be wrong in life. If they are going to bump my thread about the Philistines they could at least bring evidence and not spam with personal opinon.

The Canaanites during the Bronze Age, were Hititte.

What is the "Roman province of Italy" ? :confused: Off topic but whatever.

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Actually the Canaanites were an articulated resperint. They come from the River Jordan where their breasts were put to good use. Since the Bronze Age there's been a multitude of liquatious severence which is clearly shown in their mitochondrial DNA splatter. It has absolutely nothing to do with Hittites who were black Greeks with Arabian admixture. I don't understand how you don't already know this. It's common sense

The Canaanites during the bronze Age were Hittites I am talking about bronze Age populations of Canaanites being related to Hittite

[Rabbit Hole]

What is the "Roman province of Italy" ? :confused: Off topic but whatever.

Oh my marker was Tuscany from there lmao

[Rgvgjhvv]

The Canaanites during the bronze Age were Hittites I am talking about bronze Age populations of Canaanites being related to Hittite

Bronze Age Canaanites are similar to Mediterranean Atlanteans. How can you compare the two? Again in the paternal lineage, they're Druzean aardvarks. Hittites were black Albanians with Georgian and Circassian admixture.

[Rabbit Hole]

Thank you, but a human being can have a sense of logical sense on the whole thing by doing a bit of research on the whole thing rather than putting your brain in the state of hibernation.

But you have not done research. You miss out the fact that the Canaanites were Hittite before they intermixed with Samartians who are related to Hebrews. That intermixing happened three thousand years ago, You can't just make up history as you go along, read facts and time periods.

The Hittite during the Bronze Age period of Canaan were nothing to do with Hebrews because the people of Caanan were Hititte before the Hebrew presence.

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Bronze Age Canaanites are similar to Mediterranean Atlanteans. How can you compare the two? Again in the paternal lineage, they're Druzean aardvarks. Hittites were black Albanians with Georgian and Circassian admixture.

Bronze Age Canaanites were related to the Hittites I have just listed the reasons why.

The Arameans, together with the Phoenician Canaanites and Neo-Hittites came to dominate most of the region ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse

During the Bronze Age the Canaanites ( or people who inhabited Canaan ) whatever same thing. Were known of the Neo Hittites so we can establish the fact that during that time the Canaanites were Neo Hittites

[Rgvgjhvv]

Bromze Age Canaanites were related to the Hittites I have just listed the reasons why.

The Arameans, together with the Phoenician Canaanites and Neo-Hittites came to dominate most of the region ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse

During the Bronze Age the Canaanites ( or people who inhabited Canaan ) whatever same thing. Were known of the Neo Hittites so we can establish the fact that during that time the Canaanites were Neo Hittites

That link doesn't prove anything. Look at the proof, explained by multiple scholars. Canaanites originate from the word Kaan which means "Turkish-Arab actor" but it's a mix of arts in the Levantine culture which it comes from. There's no connection to Hittites who were Pontic-Cappadocian Karaman Greek/Iberian warriors who were Indo European both in language and culture.

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https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldhistory/chapter/the-hittites/

The Hittites were an ancient Anatolian people who established an empire at Hattusa in north-central Anatolia around 1600 BCE. The Hittite Empire reached its height during the mid-14th century BCE under Suppiluliuma I, when it encompassed an area that included most of Asia Minor as well as parts of the northern Levant ( Canaan ) and Upper Mesopotamia. After c. 1180 BCE, the empire came to an end during the Bronze Age collapse, and splintered into several independent “Neo-Hittite” city-states, some of which survived until the 8th century BCE.

[Rabbit Hole]

That link doesn't prove anything. Look at the proof, explained by multiple scholars. Canaanites originate from the word Kaan which means "Turkish-Arab actor" but it's a mix of arts in the Levantine culture which it comes from. There's no connection to Hittites who were Pontic-Cappadocian Karaman Greek/Iberian warriors who were Indo European both in language and culture.

That link proves that during the Bronze Age the Canaanites were Neo Hittites

[Dorian]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8ce0b7742fb21ce4999ecd41b4ebbc06/tenor.gif?itemid=14617129

[Rgvgjhvv]

That link proves that during the Bronze Age the Canaanites were Neo Hittites

They were neo Jesus-like people from the River Ephesus

[Rabbit Hole]

That link doesn't prove anything. Look at the proof, explained by multiple scholars. Canaanites originate from the word Kaan which means "Turkish-Arab actor" but it's a mix of arts in the Levantine culture which it comes from. There's no connection to Hittites who were Pontic-Cappadocian Karaman Greek/Iberian warriors who were Indo European both in language and culture.

That link proves that during the Bronze Age the Canaanites were Neo Hittites those are documented facts.

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Jump to Late Bronze Age (1550–1200) - In the early Late Bronze Age, Canaanite confederacies centered on Megiddo and Kadesh, before again being brought into the Egyptian Empire and Hittite Empire. Later still, the Neo-Assyrian Empire assimilated the region.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan

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We can both troll. It's not hard.

[Rabbit Hole]

They were neo Jesus-like people from the River Ephesus

They were Neo Hittites in Bronze Age Canaan that's what it says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syro-Hittite_states ( Canaan )

The states that are called Neo-Hittite or, more recently, Syro-Hittite were Luwian-, Aramaic- and Phoenician-speaking political entities of the Iron Age in northern Syria and southern Anatolia that arose following the collapse of the Hittite Empire in around 1180 BC and lasted until roughly 700 BC. The term "Neo-Hittite" is sometimes reserved specifically for the Luwian-speaking principalities, like Milid and Carchemish. However, in a wider sense the broader cultural term "Syro-Hittite" is now applied to all the entities that arose in south-central Anatolia following the Hittite collapse, such as Tabal and Quwê, as well as those of northern and coastal Syria.[1]

[Rabbit Hole]

We can both troll. It's not hard.

Go ahead and troll I have the right of the night to prove you wrong if you want.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Go ahead and troll I have the right of the night to prove you wrong if you want.

I'm not trolling. I'm spreading facts. Follow the paternal Y-DNA patterns and you'll see the lineages from the big bang. It's a Levantine sub-structure of Aramaic proportions.

[Rabbit Hole]

I'm not trolling. I'm spreading facts. Follow the paternal Y-DNA patterns and you'll see the lineages from the big bang. It's a Levantine sub-structure of Aramaic proportions.

It's a Bronze Age population of Canaanites. During the Bronze Age the Canaanites were Neo Hittite. I am talking about the Bronze Age not modern day.

The ''neo Hittite'' went as far as Babylon they were the same Hittite genetically as the ones from Anatolia

[Rabbit Hole]

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Luwian
https://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2017/10/luwian-hieroglyphic-inscription-sheds.html

The Luwians /ˈluːwiənz/ were a group of Anatolian peoples who lived in central, western, and southern Asia Minor as well as the northern part of western Levant in the Bronze Age and the Iron Age. They spoke the Luwian language, an Indo-European language of the Anatolian sub-family, which was written in cuneiform imported from Mesopotamia, and a unique native hieroglyphic script, which was sometimes used by the linguistically related Hittites also.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Luwian
Luwian, also called Luite, member of an extinct people of ancient Anatolia. The Luwians were related to the Hittites and were the dominant group in the Late Hittite culture. Their language is known from cuneiform texts found at the Hittite capital, Boğazköy. (See Luwian language.)

[Tauromachos]

Yes, and according to Greek Mythology I am the descendant of Zeus and Andromeda. Now which is more reliable, that or genetic evidence?

No the descendant of Ahura Mazda :D

[Karol Klačansky]

Like what exactly? We Arabs had existed long before Islam, and we too have had our own ancient civilizations and kingdoms as well.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?306227-The-Historical-and-Cultural-Heritage-of-Arabia&p=6607536&viewfull=1#post6607536

I'm an Arab and an atheist btw.Yea homie I explained I have no problem with Arabs, I just have a problem with Islam. Arabs have their own history I'm not denying this.

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[Rabbit Hole]

Yea homie I explained I have no problem with Arabs, I just have a problem with Islam. Arabs have their own history I'm not denying this.

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The point of the thread was the Bronze Age population of Hiitittes ( Luwians ) in relation to Canaanites ( North Levantine ) populations no one cares about Islam or Christianity in the real world.

[Rabbit Hole]

Yea homie I explained I have no problem with Arabs, I just have a problem with Islam. Arabs have their own history I'm not denying this.

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The point of the thread was the Bronze Age population of Hitittes ( Luwians ) in relation to Canaanites ( North Levantine ) populations no one cares about Islam or Christianity in the real world.

[Tauromachos]

Funny people in this thread

[Bosniensis]

They were Nordics.

All Civilizations in the world descend Nordics.

Nebuchadnezzar II was a German because why not.

[Karol Klačansky]

The point of the thread was the Bronze Age population of Hitittes ( Luwians ) in relation to Canaanites ( North Levantine ) populations no one cares about Islam or Christianity in the real world.Lol no one cares about hittites in the real world dawg. What's your point of trying to claim that Jewish people arent native to Canaa but hittites are? Both people have lived in the region for well over 3000 years.

[Rabbit Hole]

Lol no one cares about hittites in the real world dawg. What's your point of trying to claim that Jewish people arent native to Canaa but hittites are? Both people have lived in the region for well over 3000 years.

This is a history forum and that's not quite what i said? I said that the Canaanites were related to the Hitittes during the Bronze Age

If you want. The Canaanites ( of the North especially Syria and Mesopotamia ) were related to a certain race type of Hititte ( called Neo Hititte or Syro Hititte who were Anatolian ) and dominated West Asia during the Bronze Age it was known as a Bronze Age civilization. That's what's mentioned in the Bible. It's even got hieroglyphics of them being there from the Hitittes in those regions.

I get told ''no'' and the Hititte were just in Anatolia and ''no'' the Canaanites were just Palestinian/Hebrew. Both are historically inaccurate statements and I am tired of hearing it. Not from you from other users who I can only assume are purposely trying to wind me up because they are bored

[Dr_Maul]

No the descendant of Ahura Mazda :D

Well apparently we are the descendants of Perses, son of Perseus, son of Zeus so yeah I guess you could say we have royal blood ��

[Rabbit Hole]

Well apparently we are the descendants of Perses, son of Perseus, son of Zeus so yeah I guess you could say we have royal blood ��

Who are the other two? Aren't Fars related to Medes?

[Rabbit Hole]

Well apparently we are the descendants of Perses, son of Perseus, son of Zeus so yeah I guess you could say we have royal blood ��

Who are the other two? Aren't Fars related to Medes?

[Dr_Maul]

Who are the other two? Aren't Fars related to Medes?

They are similar but according to Plato Persians are the descendants of Perses (son of Perseus the gorgon slayer, who is the son of Zeus) and the queen andromeda

[Rabbit Hole]

They are similar but according to Plato Persians are the descendants of Perses (son of Perseus the gorgon slayer, who is the son of Zeus) and the queen andromeda

I thought Zeus was from Crete? Well, mythology are you talking about when the Greeks went to Persia or something? I know the root of Kurds and Persians ( of all the Iranian people ) is Medes anyway.

I believe that they were the first in Iran/Persia. The Persians were the best civilization in South West Asia anyway.

[Tauromachos]

Well apparently we are the descendants of Perses, son of Perseus, son of Zeus so yeah I guess you could say we have royal blood 😎

" Δαρείου καὶ Παρυσάτιδος γίγνονται παῖδες δύο, πρεσβύτερος μὲν Ἀρταξέρξης, νεώτερος δὲ Κῦρος· ἐπεὶ δὲ ἠσθένει Δαρεῖος καὶ ὑπώπτευε τελευτὴν τοῦ βίου, ἐβούλετο τὼ παῖδε ἀμφοτέρω παρεῖναι."

Darius and Parysatis had two sons: the elder was named Artaxerxes, and the younger Cyrus. Now, as Darius lay sick and felt that the end of life drew near, he wished both his sons to be with him.

https://www.mikrosapoplous.gr/xenophon/anb1d10.htm

[Dr_Maul]

I thought Zeus was from Crete? Well, mythology are you talking about when the Greeks went to Persia or something? I know the root of Kurds and Persians ( of all the Iranian people ) is Medes anyway.

I believe that they were the first in Iran/Persia. The Persians were the best civilization in South West Asia anyway.

Technically Medes are the first, but they aren’t the first themselves, they are the descendants of the first (Gutians, Kassites) so I guess you could say that they are the first but it’s their ancestors who were

[Dr_Maul]

I thought Zeus was from Crete? Well, mythology are you talking about when the Greeks went to Persia or something? I know the root of Kurds and Persians ( of all the Iranian people ) is Medes anyway.

I believe that they were the first in Iran/Persia. The Persians were the best civilization in South West Asia anyway.

Technically Medes are the first, but they aren’t the first themselves, they are the descendants of the first (Gutians, Kassites) so I guess you could say that they are the first but it’s their ancestors who were

[Dr_Maul]

" Δαρείου καὶ Παρυσάτιδος γίγνονται παῖδες δύο, πρεσβύτερος μὲν Ἀρταξέρξης, νεώτερος δὲ Κῦρος· ἐπεὶ δὲ ἠσθένει Δαρεῖος καὶ ὑπώπτευε τελευτὴν τοῦ βίου, ἐβούλετο τὼ παῖδε ἀμφοτέρω παρεῖναι."

Darius and Parysatis had two sons: the elder was named Artaxerxes, and the younger Cyrus. Now, as Darius lay sick and felt that the end of life drew near, he wished both his sons to be with him.

https://www.mikrosapoplous.gr/xenophon/anb1d10.htm

I’m not sure how reliable it is, but this is what I was referencing

“ DescriptionIn Greek mythology, Perses was the son of Andromeda and Perseus, and taken for Achaemenes as the ancestor of the Persians according to Plato. Apparently the Persians knew the story as Xerxes tried to use it to bribe the Argives during his invasion of Greece, but ultimately failed to do so”

[Rabbit Hole]

I’m not sure how reliable it is, but this is what I was referencing

“ DescriptionIn Greek mythology, Perses was the son of Andromeda and Perseus, and taken for Achaemenes as the ancestor of the Persians according to Plato. Apparently the Persians knew the story as Xerxes tried to use it to bribe the Argives during his invasion of Greece, but ultimately failed to do so”

What's the link between the Pars in North India too? You know there are people as far as North India and even China who are Iranian people

[Babak]

Greek-Persian history is an interesting one and fascinates me the most.

As an Iranian, I have no negative feelings toward greeks and I respect their culture and history. And I don’t think Iranians have had a grudge toward Greeks throughout history anyways.

In the ancient and medieval past Greeks and Persians were often arch enemies as Persians had the first real empire of the world and they invaded the Greeks approximately 2,500 years ago. The Greeks could defend themselves and later they started with Alexander a punishment campaign against Persia. Later medieval Greeks were as Eastern Romans again the main opponents of Sassanid Persian empire. But, even in the many wars/struggles in the ancient and medieval past, overall there was also a lot of mutual respect and admiration between our cultures.

[Rabbit Hole]

I’m not sure how reliable it is, but this is what I was referencing

“ DescriptionIn Greek mythology, Perses was the son of Andromeda and Perseus, and taken for Achaemenes as the ancestor of the Persians according to Plato. Apparently the Persians knew the story as Xerxes tried to use it to bribe the Argives during his invasion of Greece, but ultimately failed to do so”

What's the link between the Pars in North India too? You know there are people as far as North India and even China who are Iranian people

[Rabbit Hole]

Greek-Persian history is an interesting one and fascinates me the most.

As an Iranian, I have no negative feelings toward greeks and I respect their culture and history. And I don’t think Iranians have had a grudge toward Greeks throughout history anyways.

In the ancient and medieval past Greeks and Persians were often arch enemies as Persians had the first real empire of the world and they invaded the Greeks approximately 2,500 years ago. The Greeks could defend themselves and later they started with Alexander a punishment campaign against Persia. Later medieval Greeks were as Eastern Romans again the main opponents of Sassanid Persian empire. But, even in the many wars/struggles in the ancient and medieval past, overall there was also a lot of mutual respect and admiration between our cultures.

It's very evident who and what controls things nowadays and it's not the Persians or Greeks.

[Dr_Maul]

What's the link between the Pars in North India too? You know there are people as far as North India and even China who are Iranian people

Parsi people in Gujarat are Zoroastrian refugees who escaped religious persecution from Islamic times. As for Iranics in China they are mostly the descendants of Sogdians who did Silk Road trade during the early medieval period and ancient times

[Rabbit Hole]

Parsi people in Gujarat are Zoroastrian refugees who escaped religious persecution from Islamic times. As for Iranics in Iran they are mostly the descendants of Sogdians who did Silk Road trade during the early medieval period and ancient times

I have to Google search them. If you want to post some stuff about Persian history it's okay i'm interested to learn who you guys are as a people. But maybe you could start a thread to teach other users.

[Rabbit Hole]

Parsi people in Gujarat are Zoroastrian refugees who escaped religious persecution from Islamic times. As for Iranics in Iran they are mostly the descendants of Sogdians who did Silk Road trade during the early medieval period and ancient times

I have to Google search them. If you want to post some stuff about Persian history it's okay i'm interested to learn who you guys are as a people. But maybe you could start a thread to teach other users.