What European ethnic groups are genetically closest to WHGs and Steppe nomads?

[Maguzanci]

What is the closest modern day European group to WHG and Steppe populations? Is it Northeast Euros and Slavics?

[Kmakkmak]

What is the closest modern day European group to WHG and Steppe populations? Is it Northeast Euros and Slavics?

WHG and Yamnaya is different genetical. I think that more WHG in present day is scandinavian. More Yamnaya is Slavic in present-day Ukraine.

[Konstantinos]

As noted above WHG and Steppe is different. Most WHG is in the Baltics, most Steppe in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. Both are very distant from present-day populations though.

[Maguzanci]

As noted above WHG and Steppe is different. Most WHG is in the Baltics, most Steppe in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. Both are very distant from present-day populations though.

I C. Would Saamis and some Uralics be the group with the lowest Neolithic Farmer admix in Europe?

[Konstantinos]

I C. Would Saamis and some Uralics be the group with the lowest Neolithic Farmer admix in Europe?

That's correct.

[Samnium]

I C. Would Saamis and some Uralics be the group with the lowest Neolithic Farmer admix in Europe?

Yes. But they have some "Mongoloid".

[J. Ketch]

As noted above WHG and Steppe is different. Most WHG is in the Baltics, most Steppe in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. Both are very distant from present-day populations though.
Most Steppe PIE ancestry is in NW Europe (Scandinavians/Insular Celts), Most WHG in Iberia (Basques), Most EHG and overall Mesolithic European ancestry is in NE Europe (Balts/Finns/Northern Russians). NE Europeans are closest to all native Mesolithic Europeans and Yamnaya, NW Europeans are closer to Sredny Stog and Sintashta.

[Maguzanci]

Yes. But they have some "Mongoloid".

How much do they have? From what I seen, its from 20 to 30% Mongoloid.

I think there is a correlation between the higher Mong you have, the lower Neolithic you would be.

[Konstantinos]

Most Steppe PIE ancestry is in NW Europe (Scandinavians/Insular Celts), Most WHG in Iberia (Basques), Most EHG and overall Mesolithic European ancestry is in NE Europe (Balts/Finns/Northern Russians). NE Europeans are closest to all native Mesolithic Europeans and Yamnaya, NW Europeans are closer to Sredny Stog and Sintashta.

Steppe contains WHG mixed, so the total percent of WHG is higher in Baltics. For Steppe I'm not sure, it's between the whole of Northern Europe with small/marginal differences.

Also, I would classify Steppe as Yamnaya. Sredny Stog not wholly ancestral and Sintashta later.

[Samnium]

How much do they have? From what I seen, its from 20 to 30% Mongoloid.

I think there is a correlation between the higher Mong you have, the lower Neolithic you would be.

5-10% for Saamis and much more for Uralic groups

And yes I do agree with your assertion.

[axlredneck]

Found this on Reddit

https://i.redd.it/2qhrn8ff2oh31.png
Yamnaya - HG ancestry

[Maguzanci]

5-10% for Saamis and much more for Uralic groups

And yes I do agree with your assertion.

Really? I've seen Saami results in G25 with almost 25% Mong but maybe I am wrong. Yep Uralics have like 20% Mong at least.

Do you know which is the purest Steppe sample on G25 without Neolithic admix? Also what pop in the nmonte represent EHG and SHG?

Am trying to estimate the amount of Neolithic admix in Uralic groups.

[Zoro]

Highest WHG as per Lazaridis et al, 2018 "Paleolithic DNA from the Caucasus reveals core of West Eurasian ancestry" is about in 20% in Estonians followed by about 15-18% in British and Iberians.

Wrt Steppe nomads the easternmost European populations. W. Europeans can show alot of Yamnaya related steppe on amateur calculators but those calculators are not able to differentiate WHG from EHG very well and they pick up on alleles commonly ancestral to both EHG and WHG.

Also those calculators aren't able to differentiate EHG alleles inherited via Yamnaya from EHG alleles inherited via other Steppe sources. Similarly with CHG alleles inherited via Yamnaya vs CHG alleles inherited via other sources.This also ends up inflating Yamnaya % in W. Europeans.

[Proto nostraticattic]

i think croations are the most whg and nordics are thr most steppr. or slavic

[smd555]

Highest WHG - Lithuanians, Latvians-Latgalians, Estonians, Scots, Icelanders, Norwegians, some Finnish groups, West Belarussians. Probably can be north-western Ukrainians (but not yet proven). Highest EHG - some Finno-Ugric ethnic groups western Ural and some Turkish like Chuvashs, Tatars, Bashkirs.