Classify Daco's Grandfather

[Daco Celtic]

Classify and place

https://i.imgur.com/BXA4dWI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gLW5eu3.jpg

[Mr.G]

Mostly Alpine.

Passes as Hungarian, sumptuously.

[Daco Celtic]

Mostly Alpine.

Passes as Hungarian, sumptuously.

Good call. He was often teased by his Romanian friends for looking Hungarian so that sounds accurate. Wonder if he passes better in Romania or Hungary.

[Mr.G]

He was often teased by his Romanian friends for looking Hungarian so that sounds accurate. Wonder if he passes better in Romania or Hungary.

He is pretty much the exact same phenotype as my great uncle Bela.

But let's see what the Romanians say. Weirdlookingfellow lives in Transylvania, I'm interested in his take.

[ixulescu]

he passes well as either ethnicities in Transylvania.

only the smaller eyes would make me think he's Hungarian, but hooded eyes may appear smaller with age anyways, so it's not a strong hint.

[Egyvalaki]

He can pass in Hungary too easly. Looks like a bit like my paternal grandma looked.

[Daco Celtic]

he passes well as either ethnicities in Transylvania.

only the smaller eyes would make me think he's Hungarian, but hooded eyes may appear smaller with age anyways, so it's not a strong hint.

He was probably about 84 or 85 in those photos but his facial structure and overall look remained the same since his younger years, including the eyes.

[Mr.G]

Perhaps we should check our gedmatch kits, based on your grandather's look I really do think I could be related to you!

As you know, I have traced my paternal line to Máramaros..

[Ion Basescul]

Good call. He was often teased by his Romanian friends for looking Hungarian so that sounds accurate. Wonder if he passes better in Romania or Hungary.

If one has roots in Europe, then there isn't such a thing as not passing in countries from around Austria to Moldova and down all the way to Greece.
The diversity in phenotypes is ridiculously high.

[Daco Celtic]

If one has roots in Europe, then there isn't such a thing as not passing in countries from around Austria to Moldova and down all the way to Greece.
The diversity in phenotypes is ridiculously high.

I'm just thinking back to what various Romanian and Hungarian Americans said about his look, they aren't really my opinions because I haven't spent enough time in that part of Europe to speak with any real authority.

[Daco Celtic]

Perhaps we should check our gedmatch kits, based on your grandather's look I really do think I could be related to you!

As you know, I have traced my paternal line to Máramaros..

He reminds me a bit of this woodcarver from Maramureș.

https://i.imgur.com/GNy4dig.jpg

[Lousianaboy]

alpinid+nordid

[Daco Celtic]

He also compares to this classic example IMO

An Austrian given as an example of the Alpine type of the so-called Caucasoid race by 19th century race theorist William Z. Ripley The Races of Europe (1899)
https://i.imgur.com/Sxw3y6v.png

[Mr.G]

He also compares to this classic example IMO

An Austrian given as an example of the Alpine type of the so-called Caucasoid race by 19th century race theorist William Z. Ripley The Races of Europe (1899)
https://i.imgur.com/Sxw3y6v.png

Who am I to argue with Coon, but that example looks awfully brow-ridgey for a pure Alpine, looks to have a little CM admix to me. Your grandfather out-Alpines that guy, imo.

Sincerely,

Mr. Goon

[Daco Celtic]

Who am I to argue with Coon, but that example looks awfully brow-ridgey for a pure Alpine, looks to have a little CM admix to me. Your grandfather out-Alpines that guy, imo.

Sincerely,

Mr. Goon

Alpine pride. What would you consider a textbook example of Alpine?

[Nurzat]

Alpine with a Noric touch? looks Central Euro

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Small eyes don't mean Hungarian, he has a pretty Central Euro face. Partially as Ion said he passes from Austria to Moldova with ease.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

double

[Mr.G]

Alpine pride. What would you consider a textbook example of Alpine?

I'll see if I can't find my favorite example.

Where your grandfather seems to differ from Alpine proper is eye color/pigmentation (he seems a touch fairer than average for Alpine), and also his dinaricized nose.

[Mr.G]

His combination of Alpine phenotype, small eyes, and slightly dinaricized composite face just strikes me as so Hungarian.

But agree with others he passes very well across central/eastern Europe.

[Daco Celtic]

bump...just to get a few more opinions

[PaleoEuropean]

His combination of Alpine phenotype, small eyes, and slightly dinaricized composite face just strikes me as so Hungarian.

But agree with others he passes very well across central/eastern Europe.

He has a fairly Hungarian nose to me

[Daco Celtic]

He has a fairly Hungarian nose to me

I think he looks Hungarian and my grandmother more Romanian. Fairly common pairing in Transylvania.

[oszkar07]

He passes well in Hungary.
He has some slight resemblance to my Uncle ...my Dad's older brother.

[Daco Celtic]

How German do you look 1-10


8-9/10, very common imo.

LOL

[Immanenz]

Alpine or Balto-Alpine (Gorid) + Norid, but its really hard to say when peopel are older