Venus of Milo

[beeee]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9JXxbyxPYyI/THloY8GnQcI/AAAAAAAAN9s/4vDZn4p6ElM/s1600/Statue+de+V%C3%A9nus.jpg


Do these flat nose angle and this heavy sulky chin correspond to what is called hellenic type ?

If not, does this ideal of beauty has a scientific name ? Did you ever meet a similar human being ?

Sorry for the question may have already been asked :confused:

[Neanderthal]

Yes, Nordids. Facial traits are Nordoid overall but lack of forehead and brachycephalism is what make it looks weird.

[Artek]

Dinarcized Med. Lack of forehead and brachycephalism is a result of Dinaroid admixture. Nose is perfectly of greek type :).
Remember, dear Hellhammer, that all Nordids have Med traits, not vice-versa.
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9980/dfgdfgq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/dfgdfgq.jpg/)

[Neanderthal]

Yes, but his profile seem almost identical as the one of user Skandinavian; I have seen no Mediterranids with such profile. I'm talking of real Nordids, not the ones who cames out from Corn Flakes boxes.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1089/conrodriycristianpx1.jpg

[beeee]

I find the no-forehead type beautiful :)

[Artek]

Yes, but his profile seem almost identical as the one of user Skandinavian; I have seen no Mediterranids with such profile. I'm talking of real Nordids, not the ones who cames out from Corn Flakes boxes.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1089/conrodriycristianpx1.jpg
You have seen no Mediterranids with such profile, because you are Iberian - the statue, and probably the model - was Greek. Meds are varying phenotypically among each other, we've got Eastern Meds(Greeks, Bulgarians, etc.), Meds from North Africa, Iberians.
This guy you've posted is not real Nordid, he's got significant Cromagnid admixture. His very light pigmentation gives an impression of perfectly Nordid type, but it isn't. I'm more Nordoid that him, actually - gap is even bigger, when we ignore pigmentation issues.

And another case, we forgot about some common custom. Most of sculptures were manipulated to make them more beautiful than models are. It can lead to some specific phenotypes, often less likely appearing in the real life.

[GeistFaust]

Dinarid Mediterranid + Cro Magnon influences.

[Turkophagos]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9JXxbyxPYyI/THloY8GnQcI/AAAAAAAAN9s/4vDZn4p6ElM/s1600/Statue+de+V%C3%A9nus.jpg



http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg

[Hess]

I find the no-forehead type beautiful :)

I have a question about your profile. What is "magic-socialism"? :rolleyes:

[Lisa]

Armenoid + Mediterranid + Nordoid = European Dinarid .

[beeee]

I have a question about your profile. What is "magic-socialism"? :rolleyes:


Something a sarcastic mongoloid Jew will never have access ;)

[beeee]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg


What do you mean ?
The jaw line and the forehead-nose relation are totally different.

[Edelmann]

Her nose-forehead line seems remarkably straight, almost like a horse; I wonder if such a thing even exists in real life. It is very beautiful, and I can understand the aesthetic choice.

[Sahson]

Her nose-forehead line seems remarkably straight, almost like a horse; I wonder if such a thing even exists in real life. It is very beautiful, and I can understand the aesthetic choice.

http://sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.files.wordpress. com/2010/01/141.jpg
http://sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.files.wordpress. com/2010/01/121.jpg?w=450&h=350
http://sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.files.wordpress. com/2010/01/061.jpg?w=450&h=350
http://sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.files.wordpress. com/2010/01/041.jpg?w=450&h=350

[Sforza]

My understanding is that statues like this are not of much anthropological interest.

Venus (or rather Aphrodite) was a goddess, so even though she had a resemblance to humans, she was not exactly human. Therefore the artists would often try to represent her (and the other gods) in an idealized form. I doubt that such nose angles were common then as they're not now.

If anything a human with her characteristics (in flesh and blood) would look a bit "off", and maybe that's *exactly* what the artists were trying to create through her (and the other gods). You should keep in mind that the statues (back then) were painted and made to look as closely to "life-like" as possible. In a way so that to reinforce the sense that the goddess is -indeed- there, amongst them; and it would had been a shame if she looked plain.

So -yeah- that's my way of saying that those statues had a very different role than to accurately depict how Greeks looked back then (or indeed how people looked in any era)...