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Bandesha
04-17-2020, 10:32 PM
one of my friend from indian punjabi send me list of many punjabi singers real background.

i am interested in these singers phenotypes


jay sean

punjbi tarkhan

https://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/photo/jay_sean.jpg
https://intouch.wunderweib.de/assets/styles/article_image/public/intouch/media/redaktionell/wunderweib/intouch_2/wenn/wenn2682114_23_369_29jpg.jpg?itok=qZ7f8dZo

sharry mann

punjbi tarkhan sikh

https://cdn.pinkvilla.com/files/styles/contentpreview/public/sharry-mann-song_0.jpg?itok=3i6Gm2SP
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2Qbaw7n0GYwXvSrxUgCTGcNL1nkj6lJP8guS-U5NGA64XH0bqV6reR4iDj3EnYFZo2yvfnxahtDwAJASuUCgMSZ yDkaU8aDEtOPvJBdhD9qm6qbDNSuDOe9Yjf8i5H-2M47961OvAO0ta88Q2Q

soni pabla

punjabi saini sikh

https://www.celebrityborn.com/admin/assets/images/people/P1IyqaMYYv5D54ukkExb_2016_12_01.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1-tyOoEcXdE/maxresdefault.jpg

Millind Gaba

punjabi khatri

https://wikibio.in/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Millind-Gaba-smiling.jpg
https://assets.charmboard.com/images/w_1920,h_1080/x_356,y_145,w_1374,h_777,c_crop,f_auto,q_auto/h_541/im/lc/1032715/millind-gaba-in-gym-boyz-single-2019.jpg

mickey singh

punjabi rajput sikh

https://www.famousbirthdays.com/headshots/mickey-singh-9.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n5jmltTHfo1t0hfiao1_1400035889_cover.jpg

Singga

punjabi rajput sikh

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRqsteqv3hZi5Bw7lwzCXre3TRD18D wvt77Y6PGnORiHX8qbFQv&usqp=CAU
https://starsunfolded.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Singga-1280x720.jpg

badshah

punjabi rajput

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/bollywood-singer-and-rapper-badshah-poses-during-an-exclusive-with-picture-id605681002?s=612x612
https://m.economictimes.com/thumb/msid-70475361,width-1200,height-900,resizemode-4,imgsize-408508/bollywood-rapper-badshah-sets-viewer-record-that-youtube-isnt-talking-about-.jpg


honey singh

punjabi jatt sikh

https://static.toiimg.com/thumb/msid-69800882,imgsize-373293,width-800,height-600,resizemode-75/69800882.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xEFkFGl5a4Q2hxG0_NJ5IvpqWxvpwIbweA9TP9JnLW7Q_hq3Ci 7Whpp5NTv_HV0uzXpOEUr7lA=w412-h732-rw

amrit maan

punjabi jatt sikh

https://geetworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Amrit-Maan-age.jpg
https://s1.dmcdn.net/v/HnuEG1O0bCk45IFGX/x1080

jass manak

punjabi jatt sikh

https://assets.charmboard.com/images/w_1920,h_1080/x_109,y_143,w_1002,h_566,c_crop,f_auto,q_auto,e_sh arpen/h_541/v1555485517560/im/lc/1206965/jass-manak-in-viah-single-2019.jpg
https://healthyceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Jass-Manak-in-an-Instagram-post-as-seen-in-January-2020.jpg

G.Tucker
04-17-2020, 10:59 PM
I can help you if you can help me (look in your PMs). I know Punjabi phenotypes well... live amongst them in the UK.

Nurzat
04-17-2020, 11:02 PM
lol, they can all pass in Romania as native. how come they look so Euro (at least for the Balkans)?

Ülev
04-17-2020, 11:03 PM
you said - "sean"? - interesting

Thambi
04-17-2020, 11:33 PM
1. Jay Sean - NI + GI - looks more northwest indian/pakistani but can pass till gujarat imo
2. Sharry Mann - NI + IB - looks very stereotypically punjabi. good singer as well
3. Soni Pabla - NI + some med - looks very punjabi with some western shift. not exactly pashtun/afghan. maybe its the euro/steppe popping out
4. Milind Gabba - GI + alpine - looks very nw south asian, maybe pahari as well.
5. Mickey Singh - Med + CM. he can pass in southern europe or latino easily imo. looks very western shifted.
6. Singa - NI. looks very northwest south asian
7. Badshah - NI + IB. Looks very northwestern as well. reminds me of inzamam ul haq, pak cricket player
8. Honey Singh - IB. can pass till maharashtra
9. Amrit Mann - IB + some NI. he kinda reminds me of some kerala dudes, but in general he looks northern south asian overall.
10. Jass Manak - NI + GI - looks mostly northwestern. makes good music. really like his songs.

ixulescu
04-18-2020, 03:42 AM
lol, they can all pass in Romania as native. how come they look so Euro (at least for the Balkans)?

none of them pass as Romanians. a few of them pass as gypsies.

Nurzat
04-18-2020, 05:33 AM
none of them pass as Romanians. a few of them pass as gypsies.

here's where I think the link comes from with all these peoples:

some north Indians score very high on Caucasus Hunter Gatherer component and some Neolithic too - but almost their entire "White" genetic component is from CHG. so with such high % of CHG sometimes their Indian (Veddic) component doesn't show on their looks but gets totally hidden by their CHG+Neolithic. so these Punjabis probably look proper BMAC (Bactria-Margiana culture), which was mostly CHG + Neolithic farmer, genetically.

look at Punjabis and Kashmiris, they're roughly half white genetically, so there is room for looks overlap in some individuals from that:

Target: MK_BG_RO_RS_avrg
Distance: 1.5706% / 0.01570570
43.2 Balto-Slavic
25.2 Mediterranean
13.6 Levantine
12.6 Caucasus
4.0 Uralic
1.4 CeltoGermanic

Target: Punjabi_Jatt
Distance: 8.4818% / 0.08481776
41.2 Indian
37.0 Caucasus
13.6 Uralic
6.2 Balto-Slavic
2.0 CeltoGermanic

Target: Punjabi_Lahore
Distance: 6.3948% / 0.06394842
69.4 Indian
23.0 Caucasus
7.6 Balto-Slavic

Target: Kashmiri_Pandit
Distance: 8.0308% / 0.08030801
44.0 Indian
37.2 Caucasus
18.8 Uralic

Daco Celtic
04-18-2020, 05:37 AM
lol, they can all pass in Romania as native. how come they look so Euro (at least for the Balkans)?

mostly they pass in Moldova though, like after a long day of picking grapes where one gets a tan.

Nurzat
04-18-2020, 05:48 AM
mostly they pass in Moldova though, like after a long day of picking grapes where one gets a tan.

look at my post just above yours, where I explain the overlap reason (Punjabi and Kashmiri fellas are genetically half White, see the Global25 admix I posted above). and yes, in summer we get very very tanned, especially people in the countryside, who work all day long all summer in direct sun.

Daco Celtic
04-18-2020, 05:59 AM
I wasn't trolling (I never am) - look at my post just above yours, where I explain the overlap reason (Punjabi and Kashmiri fellas are genetically half White, see the Global25 admix I posted above). and yes, in summer we get very very tanned, especially people in the countryside, who work all day long all summer in direct sun.

Why would I think you are trolling? That is not the Nurzat I know. No need to explain. Indians are my brothers but those pics don't resemble Romanian Americans I've seen. Perhaps a couple could pass. I also have no idea if you are excluding Roma. It's more the facial features that differ, not the coloring.

Nurzat
04-18-2020, 06:11 AM
Why would I think you are trolling? That is not the Nurzat I know. No need to explain. Indians are my brothers but those pics don't resemble Romanian Americans I've seen. Perhaps a couple could pass. I also have no idea if you are excluding Roma. It more the facial features that differ, not the coloring.

here in Moldova region about one in three people have olive skin in the urban population from my observations, and I don't think it's Vlach, I think it's old Neolithic remnant - this region has been Sardinian-like for thousands of years. to which if you add some Caucasus and Levantine genes added with time, there's enough genetic resource for that (as there's also for Slavic faces). so yes maybe these Punjabi pass better in Moldova region since Moldova is more Oriental than Transylvania (Carpathian mountains did act like a natural barrier for gene flow)

Daco Celtic
04-18-2020, 06:27 AM
here in Moldova region about one in three people have olive skin in the urban population from my observations, and I don't think it's Vlach, I think it's old Neolithic remnant - this region has been Sardinian-like for thousands of years. to which if you add some Caucasus and Levantine genes added with time, there's enough genetic resource for that (as there's also for Slavic faces). so yes maybe these Punjabi pass better in Moldova region since Moldova is more Oriental than Transylvania (Carpathian mountains did act like a natural barrier for gene flow)

The thing is anybody, except maybe Irish, can get dark as fuck if they are out in the sun enough. It's hard to get a feel for Moldova (never been). I generally see then as the lightest Romanian speaking people but also the most potential for exotic features. I've seen some very beautiful eastern Romanian or Moldovan women that look like hapas in the US but I doubt they are typical. I see Transylvanian ethnic Romanians as either fairly swarthy mixed some lighter alpine types.

Nurzat
04-18-2020, 06:48 AM
The thing is anybody, except maybe Irish, can get dark as fuck if they are out in the sun enough. It's hard to get a feel for Moldova (never been). I generally see then as the lightest Romanian speaking people but also the most potential for exotic features. I've seen some very beautiful eastern Romanian or Moldovan women that look like hapas in the US but I doubt they are typical. I see Transylvanian ethnic Romanians as either fairly swarthy mixed some lighter alpine types.

my uni class, all from Moldova region counties - photos taken in February, imagine same people in September after 4-5 months in the sun (I am at #1, some 12 years ago, when I finished college):

https://image.ibb.co/mD5x2Q/021b.jpg

Kamal900
04-18-2020, 06:57 AM
here's where I think the link comes from with all these peoples:

some north Indians score very high on Caucasus Hunter Gatherer component and some Neolithic too - but almost their entire "White" genetic component is from CHG. so with such high % of CHG sometimes their Indian (Veddic) component doesn't show on their looks but gets totally hidden by their CHG+Neolithic. so these Punjabis probably look proper BMAC (Bactria-Margiana culture), which was mostly CHG + Neolithic farmer, genetically.

look at Punjabis and Kashmiris, they're roughly half white genetically, so there is room for looks overlap in some individuals from that:

Target: MK_BG_RO_RS_avrg
Distance: 1.5706% / 0.01570570
43.2 Balto-Slavic
25.2 Mediterranean
13.6 Levantine
12.6 Caucasus
4.0 Uralic
1.4 CeltoGermanic

Target: Punjabi_Jatt
Distance: 8.4818% / 0.08481776
41.2 Indian
37.0 Caucasus
13.6 Uralic
6.2 Balto-Slavic
2.0 CeltoGermanic

Target: Punjabi_Lahore
Distance: 6.3948% / 0.06394842
69.4 Indian
23.0 Caucasus
7.6 Balto-Slavic

Target: Kashmiri_Pandit
Distance: 8.0308% / 0.08030801
44.0 Indian
37.2 Caucasus
18.8 Uralic

True. I myself have high CHG ancestry, and I do look like a pseudo-White person.

Daco Celtic
04-18-2020, 07:16 AM
my uni class, all from Moldova region counties - photos taken in February, imagine same people in September after 4-5 months in the sun (I am at #1, some 12 years ago, when I finished college):

https://image.ibb.co/mD5x2Q/021b.jpg

The coloring isn't that different than white Americans, the difference it the the rounder heads. The women on 8-10, 16-18, 22, 23, and 24 all have this look IMO.

Satem
04-18-2020, 09:23 AM
lol, they can all pass in Romania as native. how come they look so Euro (at least for the Balkans)?

I guess they are real AR1ans

Bandesha
04-18-2020, 09:23 AM
1. Jay Sean - NI + GI - looks more northwest indian/pakistani but can pass till gujarat imo
2. Sharry Mann - NI + IB - looks very stereotypically punjabi. good singer as well
3. Soni Pabla - NI + some med - looks very punjabi with some western shift. not exactly pashtun/afghan. maybe its the euro/steppe popping out
4. Milind Gabba - GI + alpine - looks very nw south asian, maybe pahari as well.
5. Mickey Singh - Med + CM. he can pass in southern europe or latino easily imo. looks very western shifted.
6. Singa - NI. looks very northwest south asian
7. Badshah - NI + IB. Looks very northwestern as well. reminds me of inzamam ul haq, pak cricket player
8. Honey Singh - IB. can pass till maharashtra
9. Amrit Mann - IB + some NI. he kinda reminds me of some kerala dudes, but in general he looks northern south asian overall.
10. Jass Manak - NI + GI - looks mostly northwestern. makes good music. really like his songs.

thanks for your opinion