Sicilianu101's Results

[Sicilianu101]

I wanted to start out by saying that I actually tested with FamilyTreeDNA.. But we don't have our own forum so I'm posting my results here instead..

I am 100% Sicilian and can trace all my ancestry to the small village of Alcara Li Fusi in the Nebrodi Mountains of Northeastern Sicily (to my great-great-great grandparents).

These are my original FamilyTreeDNA results:

Middle East: Bedouin, Bedouin South, Druze, Iranian, Jewish, Mozabite, Palestinian= 53.74% ±17.93%
Europe (Southern European): Sardinian, Tuscan= 46.26% ±17.93%

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2440
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2439

These are the results from Dr. McDonald's BGA Analysis.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2436
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2437
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2435
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2434

This is the email he sent me:

The program says

Most likely fit is 35.9% (+- 9.1%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 1.6% (+- 0.9%) Africa (various subcontinents)
and 62.5% (+- 8.9%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Tuscan= 0.365 Ethiopia= 0.031 Cypriot= 0.603
Tuscan= 0.365 Ethiopia= 0.031 Cypriot= 0.605
Tuscan= 0.353 Ethiopia= 0.022 Cypriot= 0.625
Tuscan= 0.335 Mandenka= 0.013 Cypriot= 0.652
Tuscan= 0.335 Yoruba= 0.012 Cypriot= 0.653
Tuscan= 0.336 Bantu Ke= 0.013 Cypriot= 0.651
Tuscan= 0.341 Maasai= 0.016 Cypriot= 0.642
Tuscan= 0.335 Bantu So= 0.012 Cypriot= 0.653
Spain= 0.221 Mandenka= 0.009 Cypriot= 0.770
Tuscan= 0.606 San= 0.000 Palestin= 0.394

which in fact is perfectly reasonable given what you say.

Without your saying what you are, I would have confidently
said "some Mediterranean Island". Your spot on the scatter plots
(I see far more of them than I send) is unique ... I've never
seen anything like it. Clearly it is Mediterranean. The reason
that it is unique is that you are from one village. An academic
study using methods identical to what generates the scatter plots
(principal component analysis) found huge differences
in Sicilian village 50 km apart! If I had been forced to guess
which island, I would have said Malta, which would not have been
a bad guess. Both Sicily and Malta end up on the map
(green spot) well to the east of Italy.

According to Dienekes Admixture Analysis I am:

34.8% Mediterranean
27.4% West_Asian
17.2% West_European
11.4% Southwest_Asian
6.6% Northwest_African
1.5% East_European
1.1% East_African
0.2% Neo_African
0% South_Asian
0% Northeast_Asian
0% Southeast_Asian
0% Palaeo_African

This is a pie-chart of my results:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2441

You can see it in his excel spreadsheet online under the tab "individual results." I am DOD804.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=COCa89AJ&key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDUyeEtjNnBmY09EbnowN3M3UWRyNnc&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=3

[Osweo]

Oooooooooh, Phoenicio! :p Do you know much of the ancient history of your ancestral village? Is it a Carthaginian settlement? Or do you think this oriental element is older than the Punic expansion? Sea Peoples? neolithic?

Thanks for sharing. :)

[Odoacer]

Oooooooooh, Phoenicio! :p Do you know much of the ancient history of your ancestral village? Is it a Carthaginian settlement? Or do you think this oriental element is older than the Punic expansion? Sea Peoples? neolithic?

Thanks for sharing. :)

Phoenician colonies were confined to the western parts of Sicily:

http://explorethemed.com/Images/Maps/ClassicSic936.jpg

Alcara li Fusi is situated roughly 35 miles west-southwest of Tyndaris (modern Tindari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tindari)), on the other end of that bit of land which juts northward. However, if we can trust poorly-translated (http://www.alcarafoodandtravel.it/html/english/alcara.html) Internet websites (sicilia.indettaglio.it/eng/comuni/me/alcaralifusi/alcaralifusi.html), in 855 the Arabs evidently razed whatever was there before, excepting the castle (or, alternately, building it (http://www.anitalyattraction.com/italy-attractions-ad/historic-alcara-li-fusi.htm)), & established what has become the modern town. The name is partially derived from an Arabic appellation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_exonyms) (Alcara = al-Aqarāt, "little fortress").

Therefore, perhaps there is some Arabic ancestry from the period of the Muslim conquest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Sicily#Muslim_conquest_of_Sicil y).

[Sikeliot]

Even though there were no Phoenician settlements in the area his family is from, the non-European Caucasoid influence appears in the Anatolian or Levantine direction (look at the West Asian and SW Asian scores from Dienekes and the results from Doug McDonald which have a significant amount of him matching up to Cypriots, compared to only 6.6% NW African) which would mean either a Greek connection or simply Neolithic.

[Portukalos]

34.8% Mediterranean
27.4% West_Asian
17.2% West_European
11.4% Southwest_Asian
6.6% Northwest_African
1.5% East_European
1.1% East_African
0.2% Neo_African
0% South_Asian
0% Northeast_Asian
0% Southeast_Asian
0% Palaeo_African

The reason why some of your Mediterranean component is considered as "Middle-Eastern" by McDonald results is because it is a very old component in Europe (and found mainly in South Europe) and has an affinity with West-Asia, especially with the Anatolia/Caucasus cluster.

It is consistent with what get Sicilians. they usually cluster with Greek Cypriots and Jewish people. Somewhere between Balkans and West-Asians.

[Portukalos]

Most likely fit is 35.9% (+- 9.1%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 1.6% (+- 0.9%) Africa (various subcontinents)
and 62.5% (+- 8.9%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
You could be 45% (South) Europe and 55% Middle-East. The problem is that the guess % is hard because as you know the both groups are influenced genetically each of other.
You'd probably never know your exact % ancestry from the two regions.

[Ibericus]

The reason why your Mediterranean component is considered as "Middle-Eastern" by McDonald results is because it is a very old component in Europe (and found mainly in South Europe) and has an affinity with West-Asia, especially with the Anatolia/Caucasus cluster.

Your ancestry is consistent with what get Sicilians , they usually cluster with Greek Cypriots and Jews. Somewhere between Balkanians and West-Asians.
I don't think so. Mediterranean component is also relatively high in other parts of Europe, for example Orcadians have 25% or British and Germans 22%

[Portukalos]

Oooooooooh, Phoenicio! :p Do you know much of the ancient history of your ancestral village? Is it a Carthaginian settlement? Or do you think this oriental element is older than the Punic expansion? Sea Peoples? neolithic?

Thanks for sharing. :)

Likely some kind of Greek Islander ancestry + Neolithic expansion. Look up he clusters with Greek Cypriots.

However it is true that like many other Sicilians he has a higher Southwest Asian/Arab (15%) than the average Greek but fits pretty much the Cypriot's.

[Portukalos]

I don't think so. Mediterranean component is also relatively high in other parts of Europe, for example Orcadians have 25% or British and Germans 22%

You are right. But it is more commmon among South-East Europeans and European Islanders.

[Sicilianu101]

It is true that my town's name comes from Arabic. Our strongest cultural influence (and also seen in the names of different parts of the countryside) seems to come from the Byzantines.

To add to the complexity, according to the Italian wikipedia article on Alcara Li Fusi at
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcara_Li_Fusi

it says:
"Nel XV secolo è attestata una comunità ebraica,probabilmente più antica e particolarmente consistente in questa zona dei Nebrodi[8], confermando che ad Alcara erano centro di scambi commerciali ed economici. La comunità sarà scomparsa o quasi nel XVII secolo con l'espulsione dalla Sicilia di tutti gli ebrei non convertiti.[9]"

"In the XV century is attested a Jewish community, probably more ancient and particularly consistent in this region of the Nebrodi, confirming that at Alcara there were centers of commercial and economic exchange. The community would have disappeared in the XVII century with the expulsion from Sicily of all Jews not converted."

They could have contributed to my higher than average North African component since these are Sephardic Jews.

If you compare to the average Sicilian population from Dodecad, I have more West Asian, North African, SW Asian, and Western Euro, and less East Euro and Mediterranean.

[Damião de Góis]

Any reason why you didn't test with 23andme ?

[Sicilianu101]

Any reason why you didn't test with 23andme ?

Honestly, it's because they don't accept money orders... :lol:

[Sicilianu101]

I just downloaded software I found on the Dodecad website and ran my Autosomal sequence through them.

DV3 (which should be (and pretty much is) similar to the analysis that Dienekes made for me):

33.89% Mediterranean
27.43% West Asian
16.94% West European
12.02% Southwest Asian
5.93% Northwest African
2.26% East European
.63% East African
.50% Neo-African
.27% Palaeo-African
.11% Southeast Asian
.02% South Asian
.00% Northeast Asian

BAT (Balkan-Anatolian-Turkic)

60.61% Anatolia
37.30% Balkans
2.09% Turkic

Africa9:

46.94% Europe
39.16% SW Asia
12.46% NW Africa
1.33% Biaka
.10% East Africa
.00% S Africa
.00% Mbuti
.00% San
.00% West Africa

MDLP:

45.24% Caucassian Anatolian
27.56% Celto Germanic
12.19% North Atlantic
10.53% Balto Slavic
4.17% Altaic
.32% Volga Region
.00% Scandinavian

(I'm currently running "Test" by Eurogenes so this will be the next post..)

[Sicilianu101]

Test by Eurogenes:

33.48% West_Euro
24.95% East_Mediterranean
15.48% Middle_Eastern
15.11% West_Asian
8.06% Northeast_Euro
2.20% Berber
0.50% Sub-Saharan
0.17% Southeast_Asian
0.05% Volga-Ural
0.00% South_Siberian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% North_Asian
0.00% East_Siberian
0.00% East_Asian

[Sicilianu101]

I used the tools on gematch. Here are the results:

DIYDodecad v2 (gedmatch)

Mediterranean 33.40%
West_Asian 26.80%
West_European 16.30%
Southwest_Asian 11.90%
Northwest_African5.80%
East_European 3.20%
East_African 1.00%
Neo_African 0.70%
South_Asian 0.50%
Palaeo_African 0.30%
Southeast_Asian 0.10%
Northeast_Asian 0.00%

Admixture by chromosome:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2523

Chromosome Painting:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2522

[Sicilianu101]

Dodecad Oracle:

[1,] "Ashkenazi_D" "5.8966"
[2,] "Morocco_Jews" "6.5612"
[3,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "6.9628"
[4,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "11.9398"
[5,] "Sephardic_Jews" "13.8235"
[6,] "C_Italian_D" "14.2436"
[7,] "S_Italian_D" "14.4485"
[8,] "Sicilian_D" "14.5585"
[9,] "O_Italian_D" "16.4669"
[10,] "Greek_D" "16.8923"
[11,] "Tuscan_X" "17.047"
[12,] "TSI" "17.8163"
[13,] "Tuscan_H" "17.9961"
[14,] "Turkish_D" "20.3821"
[15,] "Cypriots" "20.9924"
[16,] "Tuscan" "21.006"
[17,] "Uzbekistan_Jews" "21.2215"
[18,] "Palestinian" "22.3654"
[19,] "Georgia_Jews" "22.3962"
[20,] "Druze" "22.4528"

Mixedmode:
[1,] "53% Assyrian_D + 47% Portuguese_D" "4.1699"
[2,] "61.5% Druze + 38.5% Portuguese_D" "4.1815"
[3,] "87.6% Morocco_Jews + 12.4% Urkarah" "4.4333"
[4,] "85.3% Morocco_Jews + 14.7% Stalskoe" "4.715"
[5,] "8.1% Lezgins + 91.9% Morocco_Jews" "4.719"
[6,] "56.4% Ashkenazi_D + 43.6% Morocco_Jews" "4.7511"
[7,] "8.7% Adygei + 91.3% Morocco_Jews" "4.8322"
[8,] "46.9% Ashkenazy_Jews + 53.1% Morocco_Jews" "4.9099"
[9,] "8.6% Armenians_16 + 91.4% Ashkenazi_D" "4.9134"
[10,] "9.3% Armenian_D + 90.7% Ashkenazi_D" "4.9457"
[11,] "96.4% Ashkenazi_D + 3.6% Mozabite" "5.0346"
[12,] "96.3% Ashkenazi_D + 3.7% Mozabite_H" "5.0349"
[13,] "60.1% Azerbaijan_Jews + 39.9% Portuguese_D" "5.0646"
[14,] "94.5% Ashkenazi_D + 5.5% Georgians" "5.0815"
[15,] "88.6% Ashkenazi_D + 11.4% Druze" "5.1911"
[16,] "91.8% Ashkenazi_D + 8.2% Assyrian_D" "5.203"
[17,] "89.9% Ashkenazi_D + 10.1% Azerbaijan_Jews" "5.2826"
[18,] "81.4% Morocco_Jews + 18.6% TSI" "5.286"
[19,] "7% Georgians + 93% Morocco_Jews" "5.293"
[20,] "91% Ashkenazi_D + 9% Turks" "5.3419"

[Sicilianu101]

Euro 7:

44.37% Southeastern
31.88% Southwestern
12.65% Caucasus
9.14% Northwestern
1.94% African
0.02% Northeastern
0.00% Far_Asian

[Sicilianu101]

Eurasia7:

34.99% Southern (Sicilian Average : 32.3%)
32.06% West_Asian (Sicilian Average : 29.7%)
31.46% Atlantic_Baltic (Sicilian Average : 35.9%)
1.4% Sub_Saharan (Sicilian Average : 1.6%)
.08% East_Asian (Sicilian Average : .2%)
.01% South_Asian (Sicilian Average : .1%)
.00% Siberian (Sicilian Average : .1%)

[Sicilianu101]

Dodecad K12a: (http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/12/first-analysis-of-metspalu-et-al-2011.html)

38.40% Caucasus
30.09% Mediterranean
12.5% Southwest_Asian
9.00% North_European
5.8% Northwest_African
1.4% Gedrosia
1.20% South_Asian
0.80% East_African
0.00% West_African
0.00% Far_Asian
0.00% Southeast_Asian
0.00% Siberian

[Sicilianu101]

K12a Oracle:

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "S_Italian_D" "4.7098"
[2,] "Sephardic_Jews" "5.4858"
[3,] "Ashkenazi_D" "6.009"
[4,] "Sicilian_D" "6.2423"
[5,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "6.696"
[6,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "7.5925"
[7,] "Morocco_Jews" "9.5762"
[8,] "Greek_D" "10.9639"
[9,] "C_Italian_D" "13.9262"
[10,] "Cypriots" "14.4133"

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "55.2% S_Italian_D + 44.8% Sephardic_Jews" "2.6131"
[2,] "71.4% S_Italian_D + 28.6% Morocco_Jews" "2.9776"
[3,] "87.6% S_Italian_D + 12.4% Palestinian" "3.0023"
[4,] "90.1% S_Italian_D + 9.9% Egyptans" "3.0595"
[5,] "88.6% S_Italian_D + 11.4% Samaritians" "3.1059"
[6,] "87.7% S_Italian_D + 12.3% Jordanians" "3.1303"
[7,] "85.9% S_Italian_D + 14.1% Lebanese" "3.2352"
[8,] "72.6% Sicilian_D + 27.4% Cypriots" "3.3025"
[9,] "87.1% S_Italian_D + 12.9% Druze" "3.4027"
[10,] "93.8% S_Italian_D + 6.2% Yemen_Jews" "3.5124"

[Sicilianu101]

World 9:

My Results (Sicilian Average)

Southern 41.1% (37.9)
Atlantic_Baltic 31.7% (35.8)
Caucasus_Gedrosia 25.7% (24)
African 1.5% (1.5)
Amerindian 0% (0.1)
Australasian 0% (0.2)
Siberian 0% (0.1)
East_Asian 0% (0.2)
South_Asian 0% (0.1)

[Sicilianu101]

IBD Results. This is confusing. I have never shown so much similarity to Iberian & French populations!

Murcia_1KG 1.79

Sicilian_D 1.39

French_D 1.3

C_Italian_D 1.1

Baleares_1KG 0.86

Galicia_1KG 0.7

Extremadura_1KG 0.61

Portuguese_D 0.46

S_Italian_Sicilian_D 0.44

Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG 0.4

Sephardic_Jews 0.36

North_Italian 0.28

N_Italian_D 0.21

Ashkenazy_Jews 0.21

French 0.05

Spaniards 0.04

Sardinian -0.09

[Mordid]

Congrats on your result.

[Sicilianu101]

Me DOD 804 (Sicilian Average)

K7b:

Southern: 41.2% (38.3%)
Atlantic-Baltic: 30.6% (34.7%)
West Asian: 26.5% (25.3%)
African: 1.7% (1.5%)
South Asian: 0% (0%)
Siberian: 0% (0%)
East Asian: 0% (.1%)

K12b:

Caucasus: 38.1% (36.5%)
Atlantic Med: 29.1% (30%)
Southwest Asian: 12.7% (11.9%)
North European: 7.9% (11.9%)
Northwest African: 6% (4.1%)
Gedrosia: 4.7% (4.5%)
East African: 1.1% (.7%)
Southeast Asian: .4% (0%)
Siberian: 0% (0%)
South Asian: 0% (.1%)
East Asian: 0% (0%)
Sub-Saharan: 0% (.2%)

[Sicilianu101]

K12b dodecad oracle:

DodecadOracle(c(4.7, 0, 6, 0.4, 29.1, 7.9, 0, 1.1, 12.7, 0, 38.1, 0),k=30)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Sephardic_Jews" "4.8795"
[2,] "Sicilian_D" "4.902"
[3,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "5.6498"
[4,] "Ashkenazi_D" "6.9613"
[5,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "7.3966"
[6,] "Morocco_Jews" "8.0802"
[7,] "C_Italian_D" "13.5724"
[8,] "Greek_D" "13.8687"
[9,] "Cypriots" "15.9295"
[10,] "Tuscan" "17.8877"
[11,] "O_Italian_D" "18.8841"
[12,] "TSI30" "19.2364"
[13,] "Turkish_D" "21.5179"
[14,] "Lebanese" "22.0336"
[15,] "Druze" "24.3029"
[16,] "Turks" "24.3058"
[17,] "Syrians" "25.2604"
[18,] "Jordanians" "25.6566"
[19,] "N_Italian_D" "26.6265"
[20,] "Palestinian" "26.9876"
[21,] "North_Italian" "26.9994"
[22,] "Uzbekistan_Jews" "28.7965"
[23,] "Iraq_Jews" "29.5909"
[24,] "Armenian_D" "29.6008"
[25,] "Assyrian_D" "29.8134"
[26,] "Bulgarian_D" "29.8419"
[27,] "Bulgarians_Y" "29.9154"
[28,] "Samaritians" "29.9945"
[29,] "Georgia_Jews" "30.0122"
[30,] "Azerbaijan_Jews" "30.0247"

DodecadOracle(c(4.7, 0, 6, 0.4, 29.1, 7.9, 0, 1.1, 12.7, 0, 38.1, 0),mixedmode=T,k=30)
[1,] "69% Cypriots + 31% Canarias_1KG" "1.7637"
[2,] "49.8% Sicilian_D + 50.2% Sephardic_Jews" "2.3832"
[3,] "23.2% C_Italian_D + 76.8% Sephardic_Jews" "2.7906"
[4,] "18.3% Tuscan + 81.7% Sephardic_Jews" "2.8474"
[5,] "16.9% TSI30 + 83.1% Sephardic_Jews" "2.9833"
[6,] "44.5% S_Italian_Sicilian_D + 55.5% Sephardic_Jews" "3.0217"
[7,] "66.1% Sicilian_D + 33.9% Morocco_Jews" "3.0568"
[8,] "12.1% North_Italian + 87.9% Sephardic_Jews" "3.1863"
[9,] "12% N_Italian_D + 88% Sephardic_Jews" "3.2997"
[10,] "62% S_Italian_Sicilian_D + 38% Morocco_Jews" "3.4314"
[11,] "15.7% O_Italian_D + 84.3% Sephardic_Jews" "3.4344"
[12,] "91.3% Sephardic_Jews + 8.7% Baleares_1KG" "3.531"
[13,] "92.7% Sephardic_Jews + 7.3% Valencia_1KG" "3.5756"
[14,] "91.8% Sephardic_Jews + 8.2% Andalucia_1KG" "3.5834"
[15,] "92.5% Sephardic_Jews + 7.5% Spaniards" "3.6111"
[16,] "92.9% Sephardic_Jews + 7.1% Cantabria_1KG" "3.6152"
[17,] "93% Sephardic_Jews + 7% Aragon_1KG" "3.641"
[18,] "19.5% Greek_D + 80.5% Sephardic_Jews" "3.6434"
[19,] "70.4% Cypriots + 29.6% Murcia_1KG" "3.6561"
[20,] "29.3% Portuguese_D + 70.7% Cypriots" "3.665"
[21,] "92.5% Sephardic_Jews + 7.5% Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "3.6793"
[22,] "88.1% Sicilian_D + 11.9% Druze" "3.6821"
[23,] "92.9% Sephardic_Jews + 7.1% Cataluna_1KG" "3.6833"
[24,] "71.7% Cypriots + 28.3% Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "3.6917"
[25,] "7.1% Spanish_D + 92.9% Sephardic_Jews" "3.7219"
[26,] "82.9% Sicilian_D + 17.1% Cypriots" "3.7253"
[27,] "92.2% Sephardic_Jews + 7.8% Galicia_1KG" "3.7352"
[28,] "92.2% Sephardic_Jews + 7.8% Extremadura_1KG" "3.7457"
[29,] "93% Sephardic_Jews + 7% Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "3.7489"
[30,] "70.6% Cypriots + 29.4% Andalucia_1KG" "3.7769".

[Sicilianu101]

Polako's Eurogenes K=11 Analysis:

Me (IT40) ("Italian" Average) (Tuscan Average) (North_Italian)

Caucasian:__________39.48% (34.42%) (29.89%) (25.37%)
Western European:___26.78% (28.93%) (38.59%) (45.96%)
Southwest Asian:_____22.91% (20.70%) (14.76%) (11.42%)
West Central Asian:___4.91% (5.95%) (5.52%) (3.86%)
Baltic:______________3.43% (8.25%) (10.54%) (12.97%)
Sub-Saharan African:__1.49% (.6%) (.05%) (0%)
East African:_________0.57% (.46%) (0%) (0.03%)
South Asian:_________0.43% (.47%) (.42%) (.26%)
Siberian:____________0% (.10%) (.04%) (.04%)
Southeast Asian:______0% (.09%) (0%) (.08%)
East Asian:___________0% (.03%) (.19%) (.01%)

I am guessing the "Italian" Category is mainly Sicilians, Southern Italians, and maybe a couple Central Italians ?

[Sicilianu101]

Polako's Eurogenes K=12 Analysis:

me It40, ("Italian" Average), (Tuscans), (North_Italian)

Mediterranean:_______35.15% (34.58%) (30.75%) (32.28%)
Caucasian:__________27.49% (21.70%) (18.89%) (12.77%)
Western European:____21.48% (24.30%) (38.62%) (46.31%)
Southwest Asian:_____12.82% (10.84%) (6.72%) (2.84%)
Sub-Saharan African:__1.33% (.57%) (.06%) (0%)
East African:_________.94% (.59%) (.02%) (.08%)
South Asian:_________.79% (.54%) (.53%) (.37%)
Baltic:_______________0% (4.38%) (3.62%) (4.73%)
Siberian:_____________0% (.09%) (.05%) (.04%)
South Central Asian:___0% (2.28%) (.52%) (.43%)
Southeast Asian:______0% (.10%) (0%) (.12%)
East Asian:___________0% (.03%) (.21%) (.01%)

[Sicilianu101]

Polako's Eurogenes K=10 Analysis

(I'm pretty sure this is older than the k12 & k11 results I posted already, but just wanted to be complete)

Caucasus: 33.52%
Southwest Asian: 31.05%
Western European: 29.56%
Baltic: 3.41%
Sub-Saharan African: 1.89%
South Asian: 0.34%
East African: 0.23%
North Asian: 0%
East Asian: 0%
West Central Asian: 0%

[Sicilianu101]

Polako's Eurogenes K=13 Analysis

Mediterranean: 41.64%
Caucasus: 27.31%
Southwest Asian: 14.20%
North Atlantic: 12.46%
Sub-Saharan: 1.63%
Baltic: 1.50%
South Asian: .53%
East African: .30%
West Central Asian: .28%
Southeast Asian: .16%
East Asian: 0%
East Central Asian: 0%
North Asian: 0%

[Sicilianu101]

Polako's Eurogenes K=14 Analysis

Mediterranean: 37.71%
Caucasus: 23.10%
North Atlantic: 18.26%
Southwest Asian: 12.83%
West Central Asian: 2.96%
Baltic: 1.52%
Sub-Saharan: 1.43%
South-Central Asian: .91%
Northeast African: .91%
South Asian: .38%
Southeast Asian: 0%
East African: 0%
East Asian: 0%
North Asian: 0%

[Sicilianu101]

Polako's Eurogenes k= 14b results (sorted from highest to lowest )

7. Sardinian,FR,ES,BAS: 39.26%
13. GE, Abhasian: 25.00%
6. KSA,YJ: 16.45%
3. SE,IE,UK,Cornwall,NO,Orcadian: 10.49%
14. Druze, ASY, KSA, IQJ, AM: 4.19%
1. LIT,RU,BY: 1.71%
11. YRI, Mandenka: 1.58%
4. SO,Ethiopia,MKK 0.66%
9. Balochi, Brahui, Sindhi, Makrani: 0.38%
5. North Kannadi, Chamar, Pulliyar: 0.28%
1. Dai,CHD: 0%
8. Nganassan, Evenk, Dolgan,Yukagir,Yakut: 0%
10. JPT: 0%
12. LWK, Bantu, Sudanese: 0%

[Sicilianu101]

Polako's Eurogenes k= 12b results

Me-IT40 (IT Average)

Atlantic-Mediterranean: 38.22% (39.85%)
Caucasus: 27.12% (21.81%)
Southwest Asian: 16.57% (12.74%)
North Atlantic: 11.02% (11.14%)
South Baltic: 3.75% (6.85%)
West African: 1.81% (.66%)
South Asian: 0.84% (.62%)
West Central Asian: 0.36% (3.12%)
East African: 0.31% (.41%)
North Asian: 0% (.11%)
Finnish: 0% (2.59%)
East Asian: 0% (.11%)

[Sicilianu101]

New Eurogenes Test:

Me-IT40 (IT average)

Mediterranean Farmer: 43.32% (42.58%)
Anatolian Farmer: 31.66% (27.13%)
Middle Eastern Herder: 16.10% (12.26%)
Baltic Hunter Gatherer: 8.23% (16.64%)
Bantu Farmer: 1.09% (0.40%)
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer: .59% (0.25%)
South Asian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.18%)
American Hunter Gatherer 0% (0.08%)
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.16%)
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.18%)
East Asian Farmer: 0% (0.15%)

__________Agriculturalist vs. Hunter-Gatherer
Me__________91.18%_________8.82%
IT AVG______82.51%_________17.49%
Tuscan AVG__74.74%_________25.26%
North_Italian_69.13%_________30.87%

Quindi forse Io sono il piu "Terrone" ma cosa sei tu? Mentre piu di miei antenati erano agricoltori, piu dei tuoi hanno vissuto con caccia e raccolta..

[Peter Nirsch]

New Eurogenes Test:

Me-IT40 (IT average)

Mediterranean Farmer: 43.32% (42.58%)
Anatolian Farmer: 31.66% (27.13%)
Middle Eastern Herder: 16.10% (12.26%)
Baltic Hunter Gatherer: 8.23% (16.64%)
Bantu Farmer: 1.09% (0.40%)
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer: .59% (0.25%)
South Asian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.18%)
American Hunter Gatherer 0% (0.08%)
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.16%)
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.18%)
East Asian Farmer: 0% (0.15%)

__________Agriculturalist vs. Hunter-Gatherer
Me__________91.18%_________8.82%
IT AVG______82.51%_________17.49%
Tuscan AVG__74.74%_________25.26%
North_Italian_69.13%_________30.87%

Quindi forse Io sono il piu "Terrone" ma cosa sei tu? Mentre piu di miei antenati erano agricoltori, piu dei tuoi hanno vissuto con caccia e raccolta..

Are you European?

[Sicilianu101]

Are you European?

I am Sicilian. :)

[rashka]

So from your results you can pass as a Turk.

Where do you get your Eurogenes test done?

Did you have provide a saliva sample?

[Peter Nirsch]

Did the words farmer, gatherer, herder were include in the test?

[Sicilianu101]

I tested through FamilyTreeDNA but all of the further analyses come from people who run computer analyses on the raw data.

The last one was from the eurogenes project: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/ http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=28618&page=119

[Sicilianu101]

So from your results you can pass as a Turk.

Where do you get your Eurogenes test done?

Did you have provide a saliva sample?

No I believe if I am right Turks have the Anatolian at the highest and Mediterranean at the second highest & they usually have higher North Eurasian, East Asian scores. See this thread on forumbiodiversity: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=28618&page=119

[rashka]

No I believe if I am right Turks have the Anatolian at the highest and Mediterranean at the second highest & they usually have higher North Eurasian, East Asian scores. See this thread on forumbiodiversity: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=28618&page=119

Wow that looks so interesting. But still you can pass as a Turk with results like yours? What kind of farmers do the plain white Europeans get classified as? I just see middle eastern farmer, mediterranean farmer, anatolian farmer, baltic farmer, etc...

[Sicilianu101]

Wow that looks so interesting. But still you can pass as a Turk with results like yours? What kind of farmers do the plain white Europeans get classified as? I just see middle eastern farmer, mediterranean farmer, anatolian farmer, baltic farmer, etc...

Here are some individual results from the thread I showed you:

Norwegian man:
Baltic hunter & gatherer - 77.54%
Mediterranean farmer - 20.28%
North Eurasian hunter & gatherer - 1.11%
East Asian farmer - 0.97%
Pygmy hunter & gatherer - 0.06%
South Asian hunter & gatherer - 0.00%
Anatolian farmer - 0.00%
Middle Eastern herder - 0.00%
American hunter & gatherer - 0.00%
Oceanian hunter & gatherer - 0.00%
Bantu farmer - 0.00%

English man:
63.9% Baltic hunter-gatherer (British average 63.3%, Irish average 63.9%)
33.9% Mediterranean farmer (British average 33.2%, Irish average 31.7%)
0.8% South Asian hunter-gatherer (British average 0.9%, Irish average 1.4%)
0.5% Pygmy hunter-gatherer (British average 0.009%, Irish average 0.006%)
0.2% Anatolian farmer (British average 1.3%, Irish average 1.9%)
0.1% Oceanian hunter-gatherer (British average 0.2%, Irish average 0.004%)
0.1% North Eurasian hunter-gatherer (British average 0.05%, Irish average 0.001%)
0.001% American hunter-gatherer (British average 0.1%, Irish average 0.6%)
0.001% Bantu farmer (British average 0.006%, Irish average 0.003%)
0.001% East Asian farmer (British average 0.009%, Irish average 0.005%)
0.001% Middle Eastern herder (British average 0.2%, Irish average 0.001%)

Anglo-Tennessean:
0.5191% South Asian Hunter Gatherer
4.0677% Anatolian Farmer
0.001% Middle Eastern Herder
1.0477% American Hunter Gatherer
0.001% North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer
56.7624% Baltic Hunter Gatherer
0.4474% Oceanian Hunter Gatherer
36.6606% Mediterranean Farmer
0.001% East Asian Farmer
0.001% Bantu Farmer
0.4911% Pygmy Hunter Gatherer

Anglo-American:
63.13% Baltic hunter-gatherer
33.35% Mediterranean farmer
1.35% South Asian hunter-gatherer
1.16% American hunter-gatherer
0.90% Anatolian farmer
0.09% Pygmy hunter-gatherer

[Sikeliot]

What are the results for a Spaniard or Portuguese?

[Sicilianu101]

& here are a few Turkish individuals results:

Anatolian farmer 53.55%
Mediterranean farmer 16.39%
Middle Eastern herder 8.90%
South Asian hunter gatherer 6.34%
Baltic hunter gatherer 6.03%
North Eurasian hunter gatherer 4.66%
East Asian farmer 2.10%
Bantu farmer 1.23%
Oceanian hunter gatherer 0.40%
American hunter gatherer 0.39%
Pygmy hunter gatherer 0.00%

Anatolian farmer: 62.26%
Mediterranean farmer: 19.11%
Middle Eastern herder: 9.09%
North Eurasian hunter gatherer: 2.92%
East Asian farmer: 2.66%
Baltic hunter gatherer: 2.29%
Oceanian hunter gatherer: 0.54%
South Asian hunter gatherer: 0.43%
Pygmy hunter gatherer: 0.14%
Bantu farmer: 0.08%
American hunter gatherer: 0.00%

Anatolian farmer 0.58469
Mediterranean farmer 0.313338
Baltic hunter gatherer 0.032833
North Eurasian hunter gatherer 0.031169
Middle Eastern herder 0.020459
East Asian farmer 0.010929
South Asian hunter gatherer 0.00001
American hunter gatherer 0.000014
Oceanian hunter gatherer 0.006536
Bantu farmer 0.00001
Pygmy hunter gatherer 0.00001

[Sicilianu101]

What are the results for a Spaniard or Portuguese?

Here are 2 individuals I found but I'll give you the link to the excel spreadsheet if you want to make averages.

Azorean/Portuguese
Mediterranean Farmer 50.95%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 34.3%
Middle Eastern Herder 8.13%
Anatolian Farmer 2.25%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.72%
Bantu Farmer 1.66%
American Hunter Gatherer 0.54%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.3%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.14%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0%
East Asian Farmer 0%

Galician
Mediterranean farmer 49.94%
Baltic hunter gatherer 35.80%
Middle Eastern herder 8%
Anatolian Farmer 1.58%
Bantu farmer 1.53%
South Asian hunter gatherer 1.41%
North Eurasian hunter gatherer 0.76%
American hunter gatherer 0.53%
East Asian farmer 0.38%
Pygmy hunter gatherer 0
Oceanian hunter gatherer 0

http://bga101.blogspot.fr/2012/03/eurogenes-hunter-gatherer-vs-farmer.html

[rashka]

So let's say I get mine done and I tell them my ethnicity. They will add my results to the different farmers?

[Sicilianu101]

New Eurogenes Goodness of fit 93.4% Error (95%) ±2.62%

Sicilian_D 82.38%
Egyptans 6.92%
Azerbaijan_Jews 5.29%
Sardinian 3.98%
Algerian_D 1.43%

[Peyrol]

I am Sicilian. :)

Alcara Li Fusi was full of sephadic jews and also of converted moors, so your result isn't surprising, triancrianu101 :D

[Sikeliot]

Alcara Li Fusi was full of sephadic jews and also of converted moors, so your result isn't surprising, triancrianu101 :D



Given the nature of their own genetic results, I'd argue that Sephardic Jews overall might have significant Sicilian ancestry, or Greek.

[Peyrol]

Given the nature of their own genetic results, I'd argue that Sephardic Jews overall might have significant Sicilian ancestry, or Greek.

Yes, probabily could be.

Also the "conversi" (berber or mideast mercenaries who adopted Catholicism) could work well.

[Sicilianu101]

Alcara Li Fusi was full of sephadic jews and also of converted moors, so your result isn't surprising, triancrianu101 :D

We really can't estimate how many of each in my town as documentation is limited. All we really know is that the name of the town & part of its establishment was by arabs during Islamic times & a jewish community is attested in the 15th Century before expulsion.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcara_Li_Fusi

& as Clementina said, Sephardic Jews seem to have Greek-like admixture & I don't think Jews anywhere are good estimators of Jewish ancestry.
Many times individuals/populations with mixed Middle East & European ancestry come up in analyses as part Jewish.

Looking at the Egyptian & Algerian % I am guessing that I could have some Arabic ancestry. Tunisians many times are more "Sardinian" than Algerians in genetic analyses so even this Sardinian % could be coming from a Tunisian-Arab admixed source in my opinion. I can't discount other hypotheses though.

[Prince Carlo]

Looking at the Egyptian & Algerian % I am guessing that I could have some Arabic ancestry. Tunisians many times are more "Sardinian" than Algerians in genetic analyses so even this Sardinian % could be coming from a Tunisian-Arab admixed source in my opinion. I can't discount other hypotheses though.

:rolleyes:

Are you really Sicilian? Not the average Sicilian for sure.

[Foxy]

Your result is coherent with the study about Sicilians I posted here on TA some weeks ago: Sicilians are a mediterranean people.

GENETIC CONTRIBUTION IN SICILIAN PEOPLE

http://www.bestofsicily.com/genealogy_markers.gif

You find the whole study here (http://www.bestofsicily.com/genetics.htm).

[Foxy]

Your result is coherent with the study about Sicilians I posted here on TA some weeks ago: Sicilians are a mediterranean people.

GENETIC CONTRIBUTION IN SICILIAN PEOPLE

http://www.bestofsicily.com/genealogy_markers.gif

You find the whole study here (http://www.bestofsicily.com/genetics.htm).

I quote myself.
According to this study the oldest genetic input in Sicilians were the Sicelian (originated in Calabria 128 generations ago), the Elymian and the Greek, the most recent were the Spanish and the Albanian one (18 and 20 generations ago). The scheme illustrates all the peoples who contrinuted in the genetics of Sicilian and for everypeople it says how many generation have intercurred from their supposed contribution.

The main core of Sicilian is so probably a Greek-Italic-Anatolian mixture with a lot of more recent foreign admixtures added.

[Prince Carlo]

I quote myself.
According to this study the oldest genetic input in Sicilians were the Sicelian (originated in Calabria 128 generations ago) and the Greek, the most recent were the Spanish and the Albanian one (18 and 20 generations ago). The scheme illustrates all the peoples who contrinuted in the genetics of Sicilian and for everypeople it says how many generation have intercurred from their supposed contribution.

The main core of Sicilian is so probably a Greek-Sicul mixture with a lot of foreign admixtures added.

The only problem is that it doesn't say how much important the contribution was. It is just speculation so far.

[Sicilianu101]

:rolleyes:

Are you really Sicilian? Not the average Sicilian for sure.

I can trace all my ancestry to the town of Alcara Li Fusi which was pretty isolated for a long time. And I might not be the average Sicilian, but I still may be the average person for my region of Sicily (Nebrodi Mountain area) or my village.

[Sicilianu101]

Eurogenes intra-North European ancestry IT40 (IT Average)

Mediterranean: 33.59% (35.34%)
Caucasus: 27.45% (24.18%)
Middle Eastern: 18.45% (14.57%)
Western Euro: 18.15% (13.38%)
Sub-Saharan: 1.79% (0.81%)
South Baltic: 0.56% (4.53%)
South Asian: 0% (0.27%)
Amerindian: 0% (0.09%)
Siberian: 0% (0.04%)
East Asian: 0% (0.10%)
North Sea: 0% (6.15%)
Northeast Euro: 0% (0.53%)

[The Exiled King]

My Sicilian Grandmother and My Great Grandfather were from Sicily and had red hair. I'm pretty sure he was descended from the Normans among other things. What leads me to believe this is I have a lot of Norwegian matches in ancestry finder which could have only come from the Normans or German ancestors who moved to Norway. But that being said the Normans were usually had more Celtic admixture than actual Germanic after marrying in with the local Celtic population of Northern France.

[Pallantides]

So let's say I get mine done and I tell them my ethnicity. They will add my results to the different farmers?

Your results will be the same regardless of what you tell them.

[Sicilianu101]

My Sicilian Grandmother and My Great Grandfather were from Sicily and had red hair. I'm pretty sure he was descended from the Normans among other things. What leads me to believe this is I have a lot of Norwegian matches in ancestry finder which could have only come from the Normans or German ancestors who moved to Norway. But that being said the Normans were usually had more Celtic admixture than actual Germanic after marrying in with the local Celtic population of Northern France.

In general there seems not to be much Norman influence in Sicily. I read somewhere that there weren't more than a few thousand of them. The main people they brought who settled were mercenaries, if I remember correctly mainly from Northern Italy, Southern Italy, & Provencal people from Southern France.

Another thing to note is that red hair is not indicative of Northern European ancestry. The mutation which makes a person have red hair is very old & precedes the mutation for blonde hair. You will find a very very small minority of Native redheads throughout the greater Mediterranean region, European & not European.

[The Exiled King]

What do you think the estimated Jewish population number/percentage was in Sicily and/or what do you think the estimated Jewish admixture percentage is in Sicilians?

[Sikeliot]

What do you think the estimated Jewish population number/percentage was in Sicily and/or what do you think the estimated Jewish admixture percentage is in Sicilians?

I think it's the other way around as I said - that European Jews have Sicilian admixture, or many of them may have been Sicilian converts to Judaism during Roman times. This makes sense genetically and given the historically large Jewish population in Calabria and Sicily.

[Sicilianu101]

I think it's the other way around as I said - that European Jews have Sicilian admixture, or many of them may have been Sicilian converts to Judaism during Roman times. This makes sense genetically and given the historically large Jewish population in Calabria and Sicily.

I think there could be some truth to this. Sicilian Jews could have contributed to the Ashkenazi & some additional ones may even have joined historic Ashkenazi communities after expulsion. This might explain partially the small North African component you usually find in Ashkenazi which they could have gotten through Sicily? Here are a few maps I found:
http://www.italian-family-history.com/graph/Mediterraneo.gif
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/People/expul2.gif
http://c1.lyndensd.schoolwires.net/185420423154538310/lib/185420423154538310/_files/jewish_diaspora.jpg
http://cw.routledge.com/textbooks/0415236614/resources/maps/map37.jpg

[Sikeliot]

I think there could be some truth to this. Sicilian Jews could have contributed to the Ashkenazi & some additional ones may even have joined historic Ashkenazi communities after expulsion. This might explain partially the small North African component you usually find in Ashkenazi which they could have gotten through Sicily? Here are a few maps I found:
http://www.italian-family-history.com/graph/Mediterraneo.gif
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/People/expul2.gif
http://c1.lyndensd.schoolwires.net/185420423154538310/lib/185420423154538310/_files/jewish_diaspora.jpg
http://cw.routledge.com/textbooks/0415236614/resources/maps/map37.jpg

The North African segment may also be from when the Jews were in Egypt, in the Bible.

[Sicilianu101]

The North African segment may also be from when the Jews were in Egypt, in the Bible.

Modern Egyptians have a low North African (Northwest African) %. Usually about the same as me ~ 6%

[Sicilianu101]

New Eurogenes Test:

Me-IT40 (IT average)

Mediterranean Farmer: 43.32% (42.58%)
Anatolian Farmer: 31.66% (27.13%)
Middle Eastern Herder: 16.10% (12.26%)
Baltic Hunter Gatherer: 8.23% (16.64%)
Bantu Farmer: 1.09% (0.40%)
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer: .59% (0.25%)
South Asian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.18%)
American Hunter Gatherer 0% (0.08%)
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.16%)
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer: 0% (0.18%)
East Asian Farmer: 0% (0.15%)


Eurogenes HvF1.12.Q

Mediterranean Farmer: 40.32%
Anatolian Farmer: 28.94%
Middle Eastern Herder: 22.11%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer: 6.83%
Bantu Farmer: .98%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer: .82%
Far Eastern Farmer: 0%
South American Hunter Gatherer: 0%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer: 0%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer: 0%
East African Pastoralist: 0%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer: 0%

[Sicilianu101]

Eurogenes intra-North European ancestry IT40 (IT Average)

Mediterranean: 33.59% (35.34%)
Caucasus: 27.45% (24.18%)
Middle Eastern: 18.45% (14.57%)
Western Euro: 18.15% (13.38%)
Sub-Saharan: 1.79% (0.81%)
South Baltic: 0.56% (4.53%)
South Asian: 0% (0.27%)
Amerindian: 0% (0.09%)
Siberian: 0% (0.04%)
East Asian: 0% (0.10%)
North Sea: 0% (6.15%)
Northeast Euro: 0% (0.53%)

Eurogenes NEU1a.12.Q

Mediterranean: 34.47%
Caucasus: 27.33%
Western European: 18.37%
Southwest Asian: 18.14%
Sub-Saharan African: 1.68%
South Asian: 0%
Amerindian: 0%
Siberian: 0%
East Asian: 0%
Western Volga: 0%
South Baltic: 0%
North Sea: 0%

[Sicilianu101]

New Updates from Eurogenes

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/04/teaser-inter-continental-admixture.html

Euro Test K6

58.64% Middle Eastern (Neolithic to recent in Europe)
32.59% European (Mesolithic European + Middle Eastern Neolithic)
5.52% South Asian
3.25% Sub-Saharan African
0% North Asian
0% East Asian

(What is this South Asian in K6? I usually score no South Asian in other tests)

Euro Test K7

40.13% Middle Eastern
30.56% Caucasus
27.15% European (Mesolithic European + Middle Eastern Neolithic)
2.16% Sub-Saharan African
0% South Asian
0% East Asian
0% North Asian

Euro Test K8

46.34% Maritime Neolithic
28.45% Anatolian Neolithic
18.89% North European hunter gatherer (+ Neolithic admixture)
4.81% East African
1.51% Sub-Saharan African
0% North Eurasian
0% East Asian
0% South Asian

[Sikeliot]

Is Maritime Neolithic another way of saying Levantine/Phoenician?

[Sicilianu101]

Is Maritime Neolithic another way of saying Levantine/Phoenician?

Even N. Europeans have a little of it, so my best guess would be that it's a mix of prehistoric Neolithic migrations from the Levant + further migrations from the Levant (e.g. Phoenician, also possibly via Jewish, Muslims)

[Sikeliot]

Even N. Europeans have a little of it, so my best guess would be that it's a mix of prehistoric Neolithic migrations from the Levant + further migrations from the Levant (e.g. Phoenician, also possibly via Jewish, Muslims)

The Caucasus and Anatolian Neolithic scores would represent a population akin to Armenians or going back to more ancient groups, people like the Hittites, who would have come to Sicily during the Neolithic.

[Sicilianu101]

k10a (DOD804)

Mediterranean 47.3%
West Asian 26.9%
Atlantic-Baltic 17.9%
Red Sea 6.1%
Sub-Saharan .7%
Southeast Asian .6%
Palaeoafrican .5%
South Asian 0%
East Asian 0%
Siberian 0%

[Sicilianu101]

Pagani k8 (IT40)

Middle Eastern 46.27%
West Asian 27.96%
European 22.39%
Northeast African 2%
West African 1.32%
East Asian .06%
North Eurasian 0%
South Asian 0%

[Sicilianu101]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=4645

[Sicilianu101]

EUTest

EAST_MED 28.73%
WEST_MED 18.37%
MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.97%
WEST_ASIAN 13.95%
ATLANTIC 12.95%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.80%
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.91%
WEST_AFRICAN 0.96%
EAST_AFRICAN 0.36%
EAST_EURO - 0
SOUTH_ASIAN- 0
EAST_ASIAN- 0
SIBERIAN- 0

JTest

EAST_MED 27.09%
WEST_MED 17.64%
WEST_ASIAN 13.02%
MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.97%
ATLANTIC 12.12%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.30%
ASHKENAZI 5.99%
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.67%
WEST_AFRICAN 1.01%
EAST_AFRICAN 0.20%
EAST_EURO - 0
SOUTH_ASIAN- 0
EAST_ASIAN- 0
SIBERIAN- 0

[Sikeliot]

What's the difference from "East Med", "West Asian", and "Middle Eastern"? Like which populations do they represent?

[Sicilianu101]

What's the difference from "East Med", "West Asian", and "Middle Eastern"? Like which populations do they represent?

i have no idea. im going to see if i can find that out

[Sikeliot]

I suspect West Asian is Caucasus, Middle Eastern is Saudis, Yemenis, and East Med is Cypriots.

[Sicilianu101]

Couldnt find it but look at the maps in this post to see where some of the components peak: http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/09/eurogenes-ashkenazim-ancestry-test-files.html

[Peyrol]

What's the difference from "East Med", "West Asian", and "Middle Eastern"? Like which populations do they represent?

Probabily east med represent cypriot or lebaneses.

[Sikeliot]

Your results do demonstrate that we (Sicilians) have shared roots with the Levantines.

[Sicilianu101]

I'm going to post all of the results from gedmatch. Will have some repeats from previous posts but I want to have all of the results in one place.

[Sicilianu101]

HarappaWorld

Caucasian 35.61
Mediterranean 26.81
SW-Asian 14.89
NE-Euro 12.82
Baloch 7.48
W-African 0.5
S-Indian 0.47
Pygmy 0.45
SE-Asian 0.43
E-African 0.39
San 0.16

[Sicilianu101]

MDLP Project


k=5
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.95
2 Paleo_mediterranean 40.45
3 West_Eurasian 9.21
4 South_Asian 5.27
5 East_Eurasian 0.12

k=6
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.36
2 Paleo_Mediterranean 38.49
3 West_Eurasian 11.41
4 South_Asian 5.17
5 East_Euroasian 0.57

k=7
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.2
2 Paleo_Mediterranean 38.48
3 West_Eurasian 11.4
4 South_Central_Asian 5.13
5 Altaic_Turkic 0.78

k=8
# Population Percent
1 Paleo_Mediterranean 37.32
2 Caucasian 34.18
3 West_European 15.8
4 East_European 7.32
5 South_Central_Asian 4.93
6 Altaic_Turkic 0.45

k=9
# Population Percent
1 Paleo_Mediterranean 37.43
2 Caucasian 33.74
3 West_European 14.71
4 East_European 6.88
5 South_Central_Asian 4.91
6 Paleo_Balkanic 1.92
7 Altaic_Turkic 0.41

k=10
# Population Percent
1 Paleo_Mediterranean 36.21
2 Caucasian 31.04
3 Iberian 10.76
4 British 10.76
5 South_Central_Asian 4.93
6 East_European 4.11
7 Paleo_Balkanic 1.86
8 Altaic_Turkic 0.32

k=11
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 36.2
2 Caucasian 30.71
3 Celto_Germanic 10.97
4 Iberian 10.5
5 South_Central_Asian 4.93
6 East_European 4.24
7 Paleo_Balkanic 1.87
8 Altaic_Turkic 0.57

k=12
# Population Percent
1 Paleo_Mediterranean 35.67
2 Caucasian 30.19
3 Celto_Germanic 11
4 Iberian 10.34
5 East_European 5.36
6 South_Central_Asian 4.91
7 Paleo_Balkanic 1.87
8 Altaic_Turkic 0.66

World
# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 40.75
2 Middle_East 25.81
3 Caucaus_Parsia 20.59
4 North_and_East_European 9.41
5 Sub_Saharian 1.54
6 Indian 0.69
7 Paleo_African 0.55
8 East_Asian 0.47
9 Mesoamerican 0.19

World-22
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.57
2 West-Asian 23.86
3 Near_East 22.24
4 North-East-European 15.11
5 Sub-Saharian 1.2
6 South-African 0.58
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.56
8 Indian 0.24
9 South-America_Amerind 0.23
10 Pygmy 0.2
11 North-Siberean 0.11
12 Mesoamerican 0.11

[Sikeliot]

I've been wondering how much Indo-European ancestry Sicilians have, and I am trying to figure out which component best measures that. Interesting results by the way :) To be expected you are mostly a mixture of Neolithic Caucasus and Mesolithic Southern Europe, apparently.

[alfieb]

Pòpulu nostru never cease to amaze me. Fascinating thread.

[Sicilianu101]

Eurogenes Project

k=9
Mediterranean 34.77%
Caucasus 29.97%
Southwest Asian 17.55%
North European 15.84%
West African 1.87%

k=10
Mediterranean 30.58%
Caucasus 29.32%
North Atlantic 20.24%
Southwest Asian 17.19%
West African 1.88%
East European 0.78%

k=11
Mediterranean 30.02%
Caucasus 29.21%
North Atlantic 19.01%
Southwest Asian 17.13%
South Baltic 2.75%
West African 1.88%

k=12
Caucasus 28.62%
Mediterranean 28.26%
Southwest Asian 17.08%
Western European 15.65%
West African 1.85%
South Baltic 2.48%
North Sea 6.06%

k=12b
Mediterranean 30.21%
Caucasus 26.93%
Western European 18.81%
Southwest Asian 15.22%
North European 4.04%
East African 2.38%
West Central Asian 1.47%
West African 0.76%
East Asian 0.14%

k=13
Mediterranean 35.90%
Caucasus 21.77%
North European 17.81%
West Central Asian 11.03%
Southwest Asian 10.19%
Northeast African 2.26%
West African 0.75%
Pygmy 0.25%

Hunter Gatherer vs. Farmer model
Mediterranean Farmer 37.99%
Anatolian Farmer 28.77%
Middle Eastern Herder 18.48%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 12.04%
East African Pastoralist 1.68%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.49%
Bantu Farmer 0.42%
East Asian Farmer 0.14%

JTest
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 27.09
2 WEST_MED 17.64
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.02
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 12.97
5 ATLANTIC 12.12
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.3
7 ASHKENAZI 5.99
8 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.67
9 WEST_AFRICAN 1.01
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.2

EUTest
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 28.73
2 WEST_MED 18.37
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 13.97
4 WEST_ASIAN 13.95
5 ATLANTIC 12.95
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.8
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.91
8 WEST_AFRICAN 0.96
9 EAST_AFRICAN 0.36

[Sicilianu101]

Dodecad Project

V3
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 33.9
2 West_Asian 27.43
3 West_European 16.94
4 Southwest_Asian 12.01
5 Northwest_African 5.93
6 East_European 2.25
7 East_African 0.62
8 Neo_African 0.5
9 Palaeo_African 0.26
10 Southeast_Asian 0.14

k=7b
# Population Percent
1 Southern 41.43
2 Atlantic_Baltic 30.6
3 West_Asian 26.26
4 African 1.57
5 East_Asian 0.14

k=12b
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.05
2 Atlantic_Med 28.22
3 Southwest_Asian 12.66
4 North_European 8.04
5 Northwest_African 6.1
6 Gedrosia 4.37
7 East_African 0.91
8 South_Asian 0.46
9 Southeast_Asian 0.19

World9
# Population Percent
1 Southern 41.09
2 Atlantic_Baltic 32
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 25.24
4 African 1.47
5 East_Asian 0.2

Africa9
# Population Percent
1 Europe 46.94
2 SW_Asia 39.16
3 NW_Africa 12.48
4 Biaka 1.35
5 E_Africa 0.07

[Sicilianu101]

I edited this genetic map, circling different ethnic groups and labelling them (I cropped it to include Mediterranean populations (Northern European groups to the right of this pic)

I am IT40

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=5408

[Sicilianu101]

Matches in Eurogenes (to 2cM)

5cM

Druze,HGDP00595 (Distance 5.47)

4cM

Druze,HGDP00595

3cM

Tuscan,NA20828
UARU1,
Utah_Mormon,NA12889
Belorussian,belorus6
British,UK45
Cornish,HG00247
Druze,HGDP00595
Finnish,FI11
French,HGDP00526
French_Basque,HGDP01359
Lithuanian,GSM536638
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01265
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01279
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01280
PLNL1,PLNL1
Portuguese,PT9
Russian,RU59

2cM

Druze,HGDP00595
Ethiopian_Amhara,AMHARA22
Evenk,GSM558743
Finnish,FI11
Finnish,FI11
Finnish,FI14
Finnish,FI15
Finnish,FI6
French,HGDP00521
French,HGDP00526
French,HGDP00533
French_Basque,HGDP01359
Georgian,GSM536858
German,DE25
German,DE31
German,DE31
German,DE33
German,DE9
Greek,GR2
Greek,GR8
Hazara,HGDP00120
IN_S,SGVP00258
IN_S,SGVP00464
Jordanian,GSM536977
Kalash,HGDP00307
Lithuanian,GSM536637
Lithuanian,GSM536638
Mandenka,HGDP00906
Moroccan,GSM536963
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01265
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01269
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01279
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01279
Mozabite_Berber,HGDP01280
North_African,NAFR7
Orcadian,HG00101
Oroqen,HGDP01205
PLNL1,PLNL1
Palestinian,HGDP00686
Polish,PL22
Portuguese,PT4
Portuguese,PT9
Romanian,RO1
Russian,RU24
Russian,RU26
Russian,RU26
Russian,RU26
Russian,RU59
Russian,RU9
Saudi_Arabian
Sephardic_Jewish
Sindhi,HGDP00181
Somali,SOMALI14
South_Italian,IT23

[Sicilianu101]

My Euro Test K8 (IT40):

Maritime Neolithic 46.34%
Anatolian 28.45%
North European 18.89%
East African 4.81%
Sub-Saharan African 1.51%
North Eurasian 0%
East Asian 0%
South Asian 0%

[Sicilianu101]

My new DNA Tribes Analysis:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27997&d=1361250524
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27996&d=1361250523
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27995&d=1361250523
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27994&d=1361250522
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27993&d=1361250521
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27992&d=1361250521
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27998&d=1361250864
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27999&d=1361250865

[Sikeliot]

Interesting on one of those charts it correctly pinpoints you as Sicilian (red dot right on the map) and then you get another hit in eastern Anatolia/Armenia/historic Assyria area.

If you ever see other Sicilian results from that site let me know-- if there is a frequent affinity to that region it may say something about where our Neolithic ancestry came from. Mesopotamian link would be cool.

[Sikeliot]

Also southern France has some hits on that chart.. maybe people on that other site classifying you as French looking has some basis :lol:

[Sicilianu101]

Also notice that Northern Tunisia is dark orange! but im not sure how accurate this particular map is. The other pictures I posted I think are more informative of the results.

[Mark]

It appears they now consider very southern Italy and Greece as part of their West Asian area.

[Sikeliot]

I appears they now consider Greece as part of their West Asian area.

All of the southern Balkans goes under West Asia on there, and it just gets part of Apulia and Lucania too. It's just not an accurate map.

[Sicilianu101]

It appears they now consider very southern Italy and Greece as part of their West Asian area.

That map is not accurate but what it is trying to show is where certain components are common, not where they originate (or what populations they are basing it on in the analysis)

Also see this key for more details.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27995&d=1361250523

[Sicilianu101]

All of the southern Balkans goes under West Asia on there, and it just gets part of Apulia and Lucania too. It's just not an accurate map.

& theyre trying to show it with rectangles.. smh.. lol

[alfieb]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27994&d=1361250522

That's the opposite of what it's supposed to be, no, or am I misreading?

[Sicilianu101]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=27994&d=1361250522

That's the opposite of what it's supposed to be, no, or am I misreading?

nah its just not picking up on my southern italian/sicilian probably due to my higher than average middle eastern, north african, and sardinian-like components that i usually show. this one is not strict ancestry. you have to look at all of the ethnicity percentages as a whole to understand what this means.

[Sicilianu101]

Just received a pdf with averages for all the population averages in the DNA Tribes system. This is Me + some populations to compare with:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=28033&d=1361291731

[Sicilianu101]

Interestingly, unlike the other populations one of the things that sticks out the most is that I have virtually no Mesopotamian.. I wonder why this is.

Also notice that I score 0 for Uralic, Northwest European, and Slavic-Baltic

[Sikeliot]

What interests me is Greeks having more of the "Italian-Iberian" than do the southern Italians themselves which might mean the component is misnamed.

[Sicilianu101]

Italian-Iberian seems to peak in North-Central Italians and Iberians

[Sicilianu101]

IT40

1 Greek 0.713954889
2 Spanish_Aragon 0.7138144
3 Tuscan 0.713616205
4 Sardinian 0.713568708
5 Cyprian 0.713511583
6 Italian 0.713483917
7 Spanish_Galicia 0.71310075
8 South_Italian 0.713060368
9 North_Italian 0.71302575
10 Spanish_Valencia 0.712938
11 Spanish_Baleares 0.712860125
12 Spanish_Murcia 0.712843333
13 Portuguese 0.7128328
14 Sephardic_Jewish 0.712817944
15 Spanish_Cataluna 0.7127944
16 Spanish 0.7126592
17 Bulgarian 0.712605357
18 French 0.712553976
19 Spanish_Pais_Vasco 0.712469125
20 Spanish_Extremadura 0.712428625

[Sicilianu101]

Eurogenes K36

19.24% East_Med (Cypriot, Lebanese Christian, Druze)
16.96% Near_Eastern (Jordanian, Lebanese Muslim, Palestinian, Syrian)
15.32% Italian (North Italian, Tuscan)
13.21% Iberian (Spain)

5.49% West_Med (Sardinia)
5.15% West_Caucasian (Abkhasian, Georgian)
4.83% North_African (Moroccan, Mozabite Berber)
4.34% Armenian (Armenian)

3.04% Basque (French Basque)
2.93% North_Atlantic (Cornish, SW Scot, Utah)
2.85% North_Sea (Kent, Utah)
2.51% North_Caucasian (Adygei, Balkar, Chechen, Kumyk, Lezgin, North Ossetian)
2.33% Arabian (Saudi Arabian, Yemeni, Yemeni Jewish)

1.60% East_Balkan (Bulgarian, Romanian)

0.15% French (French)
0.04% East_Central_Euro (Belarussian, Lithuanian, Russian, Ukrainian)


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0.00% West_African
0.00% Volga-Ural
0.00% South_Chinese
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% Siberian
0.00% Pygmy
0.00% Omotic
0.00% Oceanian
0.00% Northeast_African
0.00% Malayan
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% Fennoscandian
0.00% Eastern_Euro
0.00% East_Central_Asian
0.00% East_Asian
0.00% East_African
0.00% Central_Euro
0.00% Central_African
0.00% Amerindian

[Sicilianu101]

Dodecad globe 4

93.63% European
3.16% African
2.75% Asian
0.46% Amerindian

[Sicilianu101]

Interesting new update regarding my y-chromosome haplogroup (E-V12*)

I submitted my results to a moderator at haplozone and he made a phylogram with me and other participants from familytreedna. In there he has different clusters, described here (http://www.haplozone.net/e3b/project/cluster):

Since I have 37 snps currently on record, it is tentative, but based on my results so far I seem to be part of the G cluster (http://www.haplozone.net/e3b/project/cluster/75). All other current members of this cluster are Arabs from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Sudan.There are other clusters within E-V12 which seem to be Jewish or northwest-european dominated.

I am 188953 in blue.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33251&d=1367805637

[Sicilianu101]

MDLP-27

31.65% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
23.77% South-West-European
13.33% Gedrosia-Caucasian

9.05% North-European-Balti
9.04% Arabic
5.88% North-African
3.34% Cushitic

1.17% Kalash
1.07% Central-African-Pygm
1.00% Austronesian

0.50% Nilotic-Omotic
0.13% Ancestral-South-Indi
0.06% Australo-Melanesian


0.00% Uralic
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindia
0.00% Papuan-Australian
0.00% North-Circumpolar
0.00% North-Amerindian
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Bushmen
0.00% Bantu
0.00% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi


My top 30 Oracle and Mixedmode:

[1,] "West-Sicilian" "5.4628"
[2,] "Romanian_Jew_" "6.2107"
[3,] "Sephardic_Bulgaria" "6.4262"
[4,] "South-Sicilian" "6.479"
[5,] "Center-Italian" "7.6007"
[6,] "Morocco_Jew" "8.143"
[7,] "Center-Sicilian" "8.1645"
[8,] "South_Italian" "8.5708"
[9,] "SephardicTurk" "8.6476"
[10,] "SephardicBul" "9.3956"
[11,] "Ashkenazi" "11.1004"
[12,] "Island-Greek" "12.5508"
[13,] "Romanian_Jew" "12.932"
[14,] "Tuscan" "13.0401"
[15,] "Greek" "13.7956"
[16,] "Cretan" "13.965"
[17,] "Toscani" "14.2158"
[18,] "North-Italian" "14.5716"
[19,] "Center-Greek" "14.6518"
[20,] "South-Greek" "15.8874"
[21,] "Cypriot" "17.2025"
[22,] "Corsican" "18.4805"
[23,] "Kosovar" "19.42"
[24,] "North-Greek" "20.198"
[25,] "Greek_Azov" "20.373"
[26,] "Lebanese" "20.6227"
[27,] "Tatar_Crim" "20.7195"
[28,] "North_Italian" "20.9064"
[29,] "Turk" "21.6122"
[30,] "Jordanian" "23.276"

[1,] "22.9% Provancal + 77.1% SephardicTurk" "2.7824"
[2,] "20.4% French + 79.6% SephardicTurk" "2.934"
[3,] "15.8% British + 84.2% SephardicTurk" "3.0361"
[4,] "15.1% Orcadian + 84.9% SephardicTurk" "3.1665"
[5,] "16% North-West-European + 84% SephardicTurk" "3.2916"
[6,] "52.1% Center-Italian + 47.9% Morocco_Jew" "3.3824"
[7,] "83.8% SephardicTurk + 16.2% Welsh" "3.4569"
[8,] "77.2% SephardicTurk + 22.8% Swiss" "3.5562"
[9,] "80.9% SephardicTurk + 19.1% Spanish" "3.5737"
[10,] "35.8% North-Italian + 64.2% SephardicTurk" "3.5928"
[11,] "27.6% North_Italian + 72.4% SephardicTurk" "3.6014"
[12,] "63.2% Cypriot + 36.8% Portuguese" "3.7215"
[13,] "54% Druze + 46% Portuguese" "3.7216"
[14,] "18.8% Iberian + 81.2% SephardicTurk" "3.7434"
[15,] "15.5% N._European + 84.5% SephardicTurk" "3.7568"
[16,] "10.3% Orcadian + 89.7% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.7637"
[17,] "63.8% SephardicTurk + 36.2% Toscani" "3.789"
[18,] "10.7% British + 89.3% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.8196"
[19,] "21.1% Portuguese + 78.9% SephardicTurk" "3.8861"
[20,] "10.9% North-West-European + 89.1% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.9106"
[21,] "57.8% Druze + 42.2% Iberian" "3.965"
[22,] "89% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 11% Welsh" "3.9659"
[23,] "11.4% Iranian + 88.6% West-Sicilian" "3.9988"
[24,] "61.8% SephardicTurk + 38.2% Tuscan" "4.0119"
[25,] "15.4% Provancal + 84.6% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "4.048"
[26,] "10.5% N._European + 89.5% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "4.0826"
[27,] "10.7% Kurd + 89.3% West-Sicilian" "4.1341"
[28,] "40.2% Lebanese + 59.8% Toscani" "4.1625"
[29,] "33.6% Morocco_Jew + 66.4% West-Sicilian" "4.1627"
[30,] "54.4% Center-Italian + 45.6% SephardicTurk" "4.2082"

[Sicilianu101]

Updated FamilyTreeDNA MyOrigins results (100% Sicilian from Alcara Li Fusi, Sicily):

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46891&d=1399404503

[Iroczor]

^ Where does the anatolia and caucasus come from on your ftdna results? are you part turkish?

[Sikeliot]

^ Where does the anatolia and caucasus come from on your ftdna results? are you part turkish?

It's from the Neolithic, he wouldn't have to be part Turkish to score it. Which would be highly unlikely since the area he is from is very isolated.

[Sikeliot]

Your results are similar (rather, identical) to a Greek woman I know of mixed Cretan and other islander descent except she got 7% Polish Jew in replace of your 7% North African.

[Iroczor]

It's from the Neolithic, he wouldn't have to be part Turkish to score it. Which would be highly unlikely since the area he is from is very isolated.

Uber cool, i want to see more results of sicilians, i've heard that some actually score very little SSA. So are sicilians basically roughly close to 50% middle eastern/levantine? or way more less than that?

[Sikeliot]

Uber cool, i want to see more results of sicilians, i've heard that some actually score very little SSA. So are sicilians basically roughly close to 50% middle eastern/levantine? or way more less than that?

Basically intermediate between West Asians and native Southern Europeans. Meaning half of our genes come from the pre-Neolithic people of Southern Europe, while the other half come from Neolithic migrants from the Near East and North Africa that followed shortly after.

[cally]

Interesting results! :)

[Guapo]

Interesting results! :)

like wow

[Sicilianu101]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 :

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.49
2 Atlantic 18.42
3 West_Asian 16.61
4 West_Med 16.38
5 Red_Sea 7.94
6 North_Sea 5.66
7 Baltic 3.66
8 Northeast_African 1.39
9 Sub-Saharan 0.43

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.99
2 Sephardic_Jewish 6.42
3 East_Sicilian 7.17
4 West_Sicilian 7.77
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.94
6 Italian_Jewish 8.01
7 Central_Greek 8.23
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.97
9 Ashkenazi 10.12
10 Tunisian_Jewish 10.52
11 Greek 12.71
12 Tuscan 13.2
13 Cyprian 13.95
14 Greek_Thessaly 14.92
15 Libyan_Jewish 14.92
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.66
17 Syrian 17.71
18 Turkish 18.06
19 North_Italian 19.47
20 Bulgarian 20.19

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 30.3% French_Basque @ 3.25
2 73.7% Cyprian + 26.3% French_Basque @ 3.8
3 63.9% Lebanese_Christian + 36.1% French_Basque @ 4.01
4 60.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 39.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.14
5 64% Lebanese_Muslim + 36% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.17
6 58.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 41.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.46
7 62.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.46
8 67% Cyprian + 33% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.5
9 68.5% Cyprian + 31.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.56
10 89.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 10.7% French_Basque @ 4.58
11 62.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.58
12 65.1% Cyprian + 34.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.7
13 61.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 38.3% French_Basque @ 4.7
14 59.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.71
15 65.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.4% Southwest_French @ 4.82
16 85.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 14.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.83
17 86.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 13.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.85
18 66.7% Cyprian + 33.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.86
19 87.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 12.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.89
20 53.7% Lebanese_Christian + 46.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.9

1 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.002851
2 Cyprian + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.098030
3 Assyrian + Cyprian + French_Basque + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.140656
4 Armenian + French_Basque + Tunisian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.253246
5 Assyrian + Cyprian + French_Basque + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.313496
6 Assyrian + French_Basque + Tunisian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.408706
7 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.446153
8 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Samaritan + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.446867
9 French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Lebanese_Muslim + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.484885
10 French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Muslim + South_Italian @ 3.496922
11 Cyprian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.543165
12 Cyprian + French_Basque + Kurdish_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.546133
13 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Samaritan @ 3.554867
14 Assyrian + French_Basque + Sephardic_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.556142
15 Cyprian + French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.564210
16 Cyprian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.582735
17 Cyprian + French_Basque + Iranian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.587366
18 Cyprian + Cyprian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.588323
19 Assyrian + French_Basque + Samaritan + South_Italian @ 3.590747
20 Armenian + French_Basque + Samaritan + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.609337

[Sicilianu101]

Eurogenes_ANE K7

ANE 7.65%
ASE 1.08%
WHG-UHG 29.21%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 2.47%
ENF 59.55%

[DanielJ1eH]

Here's mine:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.72
2 Atlantic 21.34
3 West_Med 18.04
4 East_Med 17.53
5 West_Asian 7.18
6 Eastern_Euro 6.83
7 Baltic 2.78
8 Red_Sea 1.28

1 North_Italian @ 9.826039
2 Portuguese @ 12.079700
3 Tuscan @ 12.377120
4 Spanish_Galicia @ 12.601987
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.976818
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 13.261967
7 Spanish_Cataluna @ 13.537045
8 French @ 14.321645
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 14.956841
10 Spanish_Andalucia @ 16.362534
11 Spanish_Valencia @ 16.385876
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 17.130350
13 Serbian @ 17.341637
14 Italian_Abruzzo @ 17.868572
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.998489
16 Spanish_Cantabria @ 18.092529
17 West_Sicilian @ 18.326015
18 Romanian @ 18.448715
19 West_German @ 18.572401
20 South_Dutch @ 18.819162

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Jewish +50% Southwest_English @ 6.587981


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Samaritan +25% Sardinian @ 5.778110


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 4.531942
2 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 4.923051
3 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 4.947248
4 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian + Southeast_English @ 5.089167
5 Danish + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 5.105108
6 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian + Southwest_English @ 5.218545
7 Irish + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 5.235974
8 Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 5.249559
9 Lebanese_Druze + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 5.280560
10 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 5.291638
11 Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 5.329834
12 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian @ 5.345100
13 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 5.447970
14 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.448312
15 Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 5.513753
16 Kurdish_Jewish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 5.523469
17 Irish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 5.544063
18 Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 5.578298
19 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 5.604612
20 Danish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 5.634140

I find it rather odd that they used Italian_Jewish to compare for the 2 population approximate. They could've just used Tuscan or something like that.

I appear to be much more Northern shifted than you.

[Sikeliot]

Sicilianu101's results are typical for parts of Sicily. I have seen other results from Messina especially that are very similar.