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Adamm
04-21-2020, 09:45 PM
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

Nassbean
04-21-2020, 09:55 PM
did you try it ?

Adamm
04-21-2020, 09:59 PM
did you try it ?

I already have my Y-DNA tested with 23andMe so I won't need it to test with it.

Luso
04-21-2020, 10:06 PM
Error
snps=
cladeFinder returned: {"error":"unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs"}

Adamm
04-21-2020, 10:08 PM
Error
snps=
cladeFinder returned: {"error":"unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs"}

What raw dna did you used?

Adamm
04-21-2020, 10:09 PM
This also works for MyHeritage!

I did the following:

Converted MyHeritage raw file to AncestryDNA file
Converted the AncestryDNA.raw to zip file
Upload the zip file

And it predicted me to be E-PF2546 (which is spot on).

Luso
04-21-2020, 10:12 PM
What raw dna did you used?

Tried to use my Ancestry raw data. Also do I need to know the SNPs? I'm r1b-L51 that is all I know.

Adamm
04-21-2020, 10:14 PM
Tried to use my Ancestry raw data. Also do I need to know the SNPs? I'm r1b-L51 that is all I know.

Try the following:

Convert your Ancestry .raw file to .zip here:

http://www.convertfiles.com/file_type_description/ZIP_Archive_FIle.html

And upload it again and see if it works.

Luso
04-21-2020, 10:25 PM
Try the following:

Convert your Ancestry .raw file to .zip here:

http://www.convertfiles.com/file_type_description/ZIP_Archive_FIle.html

And upload it again and see if it works.

My file already is zip. I just don't know what to put for the SNPs. I know I am L51 but it says Example: M343+, L21+, DF13+, DF23+, M222-

Rædwald
04-21-2020, 10:27 PM
Wouldn't work with my Ancestry file, but gave correct subclade for my 23andMe file.

Adamm
04-21-2020, 10:31 PM
My file already is zip. I just don't know what to put for the SNPs. I know I am L51 but it says Example: M343+, L21+, DF13+, DF23+, M222-

You don't have to write anything for the SNPs. Just upload the zipfile and submit it, it should work.

Damião de Góis
04-21-2020, 10:36 PM
Not so specific in my case:


Most specific position on the YFull tree is R-P312

But my version of 23andme didn't test for DF27.

Kaspias
04-21-2020, 10:44 PM
I have just learned that I'm negative for L332 and L329. This was the final crossroad before to see my cluster.

https://i.ibb.co/x63GwFq/IMG-20200422-012706.jpg

Greetings to fatherland Altai!

Thracian
04-21-2020, 11:04 PM
I guess I have just CTS3402.

https://i.ibb.co/wdhbTzq/cts3402.png

andre
04-21-2020, 11:18 PM
97855
97856

So i have the continental "version" of the I2a2 haplogroup I-L701 (AKA I-cts10100), but how can find my sub-clade?

Dorian
04-22-2020, 12:07 AM
:033102st:
https://i.postimg.cc/K8K2Fx8G/lk.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/HLR0K0PW/Screenshot-44.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

JamesBond007
04-22-2020, 12:32 AM
You don't have to write anything for the SNPs. Just upload the zipfile and submit it, it should work.

Nope, it does not work for my ancestrydna raw data in zip format either.

Adamm
04-22-2020, 12:34 AM
Nope, it does not work for my ancestrydna raw data in zip format either.

Weird, what does it say? And if it does not work try to convert your ancestry file to 23andMe (make it zip) and upload it and see again.

JamesBond007
04-22-2020, 12:59 AM
Weird, what does it say? And if it does not work try to convert your ancestry file to 23andMe (make it zip) and upload it and see again.

I thought of that already but I can't login into my old dna.land account which converted my ancestrydna file to 23andme for free.Do you know of any unix/linux scripts that will convert AncestryDNA to 23andme format ? I can't find any but perl or sed/awk with bash , in linux, would be the perfect tool for this kind of stuff man.


Error
snps=
cladeFinder returned: {"error":"unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs"}

Maybe, I'll do it tomorrow if I remember. I think I have my ancestrydna raw data file converted to 23andme format on my old computer downstairs probably.

Adamm
04-22-2020, 01:11 AM
I thought of that already but I can't login into my old dna.land account which converted my ancestrydna file to 23andme for free.Do you know of any unix/linux scripts that will convert AncestryDNA to 23andme format ? I can't find any but perl or sed/awk with bash , in linux, would be the perfect tool for this kind of stuff man.


Error
snps=
cladeFinder returned: {"error":"unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs"}

Maybe, I'll do it tomorrow if I remember. I think I have my ancestrydna raw data file converted to 23andme format on my old computer downstairs probably.

This program does the job:

http://dnagenics.com/download/DnaKitStudiov28.zip

DNA KIT STUDIO

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
04-22-2020, 01:35 AM
Most specific position on the YFull YTree is R-L21

Accurate.

I have done their R1b panel.

Kaspias
04-22-2020, 09:20 AM
I guess I have just CTS3402.

https://i.ibb.co/wdhbTzq/cts3402.png

Click that +2, +5 buttons to see if you have any negative. This may give information about your further clades

andre
04-22-2020, 10:48 AM
I just discover that my branch is the celto-germanic branch... wtf, i'm I-L669

JamesBond007
04-22-2020, 11:30 AM
I finally got it to work with my ancestrydna file converted to 23andme format :

https://i.postimg.cc/wjvLZfdL/y-dna.png

Thracian
04-22-2020, 03:42 PM
Click that +2, +5 buttons to see if you have any negative. This may give information about your further clades

I have a few negative calls but no positive calls.Negative calls are,
Y2910/FGC10329-
L365/S468-
YP335-

Rokhan
04-23-2020, 09:52 AM
https://zupimages.net/up/20/17/ob4h.png (https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/17/ob4h.png)

samario
04-23-2020, 10:46 AM
Wha's my branch of R-Z93 to be honest? Dunno how to read this.

https://i.postimg.cc/rwLfbwPz/Screenshot-2020-04-23-at-05-38-26.png

Impaler
04-23-2020, 10:53 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ni0p8Ci.png (https://imgur.com/ni0p8Ci)

Rocinante
04-23-2020, 11:05 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=97912&d=1587639899

Kyp
04-23-2020, 11:10 AM
Doesn't seem to work, can somebody help me?

I have tested with Myheritage uploaded the zip -> didnt work
converted to 23andme > didnt work either

Kyp
04-23-2020, 11:12 AM
Doesn't seem to work, can somebody help me?

I have tested with Myheritage uploaded the zip -> didnt work
converted to 23andme > didnt work either

Rocinante
04-23-2020, 11:16 AM
Doesn't seem to work, can somebody help me?

I have tested with Myheritage uploaded the zip -> didnt work
converted to 23andme > didnt work either

Weird, it works with my ZIP MyHeritage file.

Kyp
04-23-2020, 11:22 AM
Weird, it works with my ZIP MyHeritage file.

It worked now. I uploaded .rar file instead of .zip

https://i.imgur.com/gCX3dF9.jpg

Can anybody help interpreting the result?

https://i.imgur.com/TloH2mU.png

Rocinante
04-23-2020, 11:27 AM
It worked now. I uploaded .rar file instead of .zip

https://i.imgur.com/gCX3dF9.jpg

Can anybody help interpreting the result?

It seems clearly that you are R1a-Z93, which would make a lot of sense, because this is the asian subclade of the R1a.

Nassbean
04-23-2020, 01:33 PM
https://i.imgur.com/d7v4Gud.png

Rocinante
04-23-2020, 02:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/d7v4Gud.png

Bro, is that subclade from North Africa? It's a lottery to get J from a moroccan, i suposse.

Nassbean
04-23-2020, 02:10 PM
Bro, is that subclade from North Africa? It's a lottery to get J from a moroccan, i suposse.

Idk I'm waiting for answers we'll see but yes it's quite rare to get J in Morocco

Rocinante
04-23-2020, 02:12 PM
Idk I'm waiting for answers we'll see but yes it's quite rare to get J in Morocco

From Arab elites or jewish maybe? There is a decent number of jewish in Morocco, Algeria and Libya, but i don't know, J is one of the most complicated haplogroups, together with E and R1a.

mitalit
04-23-2020, 02:13 PM
Idk I'm waiting for answers we'll see but yes it's quite rare to get J in Morocco

Of what part of Morocco is your father from?

Kyp
04-23-2020, 02:20 PM
Idk I'm waiting for answers we'll see but yes it's quite rare to get J in Morocco

Are you descendant of Hannibal?

Nassbean
04-23-2020, 02:26 PM
Of what part of Morocco is your father from?

north-east morocco (near the algerian border)

Nassbean
04-23-2020, 02:28 PM
From Arab elites or jewish maybe? There is a decent number of jewish in Morocco, Algeria and Libya, but i don't know, J is one of the most complicated haplogroups, together with E and R1a.

I don't really score a high amount of jewish or arab ancestry compared to other moroccans (I saw that my closest match on ftdna scored a lot of jewish and his family name clearly has the same roots as mine but that's all I know) In general people who get J in morocco score high amount of arab ancestry but In my case I'm less ME shifted than the average

Nassbean
04-23-2020, 02:30 PM
Are you descendant of Hannibal?

who knows lol but he probably have a lot of descendents today all over the world

I.vet
04-24-2020, 07:24 PM
Yes, quite accurately. It is strange that below is also indicated in the likely very archaic snp N-23747
https://d.radikal.ru/d27/2004/9f/235fdac71474.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

Nelju
04-24-2020, 11:14 PM
Wha's my branch of R-Z93 to be honest? Dunno how to read this.

https://i.postimg.cc/rwLfbwPz/Screenshot-2020-04-23-at-05-38-26.png

It couldn't find a branch for you downstream R-Z93.

I was lucky. I have R-Z93 as well, but now I am supposed to have more branches downstream R-Z93. Mine are supposed to be R-Z93 > R-Z94 > R-Y40> R-Y37.

https://i.ibb.co/jzW7nN0/20200424-171455.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZSYyqj4)
russian photo sharing (https://imgbb.com/)

samario
04-30-2020, 10:33 AM
Subclade not found basically.

samario
04-30-2020, 10:37 AM
También me salió esto. Otra vez el Mar Negro. Esto es como dije, mi R-Z93 es de los godos-escitas.

https://i.postimg.cc/HLpPN67G/Screenshot-2020-04-30-at-05-29-35.png

Cybele
08-24-2020, 04:05 PM
I tested my father with MyHeritage and ran his raw data through this prediction tool. But it only shows most specific position is G. Is it possible to find his subclade?

https://i.imgur.com/TN110DH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cBXWN96.jpg

Jana
08-24-2020, 04:11 PM
I tested my father with MyHeritage and ran his raw data through this prediction tool. But it only shows most specific position is G. Is it possible to find his subclade?

https://i.imgur.com/TN110DH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cBXWN96.jpg

Convert his raw data to 23andme format (or upload .rar myheritage file instead of .zip, it worked for Kyp)
Maybe he is haplogroup G.

Cybele
08-24-2020, 04:33 PM
Convert his raw data to 23andme format (or upload .rar myheritage file instead of .zip, it worked for Kyp)
Maybe he is haplogroup G.

Thanks! Converted it and tried again with a .rar file, but it gets some error. Says: "extesion not allowed".

https://i.imgur.com/M5VvNx7.jpg
I can convert it to 23andme format through DNA Kit Studio, right?

Rocinante
08-24-2020, 04:44 PM
It couldn't find a branch for you downstream R-Z93.

I was lucky. I have R-Z93 as well, but now I am supposed to have more branches downstream R-Z93. Mine are supposed to be R-Z93 > R-Z94 > R-Y40> R-Y37.

https://i.ibb.co/jzW7nN0/20200424-171455.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZSYyqj4)
russian photo sharing (https://imgbb.com/)

No habia visto tu prediccion.

Caiste en el clado iranico del Z93, que es el Z94, muy tipico en Asia del Sur y del Oeste, asi que bastante extraño que lo saques. Posiblemente sea gitano, no encuentro otra logica de como haya podido terminar eso por el Caribe.

Kyp
08-24-2020, 05:12 PM
Thanks! Converted it and tried again with a .rar file, but it gets some error. Says: "extesion not allowed".

https://i.imgur.com/M5VvNx7.jpg
I can convert it to 23andme format through DNA Kit Studio, right?

Try .zip data instead of .rar

Cybele
08-24-2020, 05:58 PM
Try .zip data instead of .rar
Yup, tried with .zip file and it shows haplogroup G and in green U2/PF2952/S314+ . Probably it's the most it can show. I'm new to it, so I don't have much of an idea.

Jana
08-24-2020, 06:06 PM
Yup, tried with .zip file and it shows haplogroup G and in green U2/PF2952/S314+ . Probably it's the most it can show. I'm new to it, so I don't have much of an idea.

That's haplo of Otzi the Iceman, who was neolitic farmer. Didn't show deeper subclade for your dad though and there almost surely is one.
G in this area is mostly Celtic marker, my bet is your dad belongs to Celtic branch of G2a which would make sense for Transylvanian (if he is one)

G was Anatolian neolithic farmer HG which was Indo-Europeanized in Alps and spread all over Europe with the Celtic expansion.

Maybe your father has Kavkaz type of G though, but that is much rarer in Europe. Without deeper test impossible to know.

Try this though, just to confirm is it G:https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

Cybele
08-24-2020, 06:42 PM
That's haplo of Otzi the Iceman, who was neolitic farmer. Didn't show deeper subclade for your dad though and there almost surely is one.
G in this area is mostly Celtic marker, my bet is your dad belongs to Celtic branch of G2a which would make sense for Transylvanian (if he is one)

G was Anatolian neolithic farmer HG which was Indo-Europeanized in Alps and spread all over Europe with the Celtic expansion.
Very cool info! Yes, as much as he knows, he should have Transylvanian ancestors. But is almost impossible to know hundreds and hundreds of years back.


Maybe your father has Kavkaz type of G though, but that is much rarer in Europe. Without deeper test impossible to know.
That would be an interesting twist:D! But you are right, I should invest in a test. Maybe a deep subclade one would be the best, but for the moment is a bit too pricey for me.


Try this though, just to confirm is it G:https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

https://i.imgur.com/1i8wRbe.jpg
Guess this confirms it's G. Thanks for your help! :)

Hapanuwa
08-24-2020, 07:04 PM
Could someone help me? I uploaded my Myheritage kit on the website and the text in green said: V13/PF2211+ V36/PF2210+

How can I see the line of migration on a map??

Jana
08-24-2020, 07:16 PM
Could someone help me? I uploaded my Myheritage kit on the website and the text in green said: V13/PF2211+ V36/PF2210+

How can I see the line of migration on a map??

try this: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

I guess you belong to E-V13 haplogroup.

Korovic
08-24-2020, 07:17 PM
Dont take this tool serious...

Cybele
08-24-2020, 07:51 PM
Could someone help me? I uploaded my Myheritage kit on the website and the text in green said: V13/PF2211+ V36/PF2210+

How can I see the line of migration on a map??
Do you mean this one?
https://i.imgur.com/HH4Ipbm.jpg
Go on https://phylogeographer.com/snp-lookup/?G and introduce: PF2211 or PF2210 and then press "Lookup" button.

RatCat
08-24-2020, 08:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ackIsch.png

It matches with morley's prediction too.

RatCat
08-24-2020, 08:07 PM
Very cool info! Yes, as much as he knows, he should have Transylvanian ancestors. But is almost impossible to know hundreds and hundreds of years back.


That would be an interesting twist:D! But you are right, I should invest in a test. Maybe a deep subclade one would be the best, but for the moment is a bit too pricey for me.



https://i.imgur.com/1i8wRbe.jpg
Guess this confirms it's G. Thanks for your help! :)

Welcome to G tribe :thumb001:

Jana
08-24-2020, 08:07 PM
Dont take this tool serious...

Dumb comment, tool is accurate.

Cybele
08-24-2020, 08:25 PM
Welcome to G tribe :thumb001:
Ty! :D

https://i.imgur.com/4IBwew5l.jpg

Zroota
09-17-2020, 09:04 AM
Same as MorleyDNA:

https://i.postimg.cc/cCTvWbdy/Untitled.png

Except, I am a J on My True Ancestry:

https://i.postimg.cc/vB2RdrC2/Untitled.png

Kyp
09-17-2020, 09:24 AM
Same as MorleyDNA:

https://i.postimg.cc/cCTvWbdy/Untitled.png

Except, I am a J on My True Ancestry:

https://i.postimg.cc/vB2RdrC2/Untitled.png

You're not J on MTA. Ancestry only calculates the probability of your autosomal DNA linked to YDNA. So every Assyrian would be J on MTA. My Father is J too on MTA expect that he isn't in real life.

JamesBond007
09-17-2020, 10:16 AM
I finally got it to work with my ancestrydna file converted to 23andme format :

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/wjvLZfdL/y-dna.png[/img[

Updated :

https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3LGGDW/z253.png


R- Z253

10.7 % of England

5.3% of Scotland

12.8 % of Ireland

22.2% of Cornwall England

Also prevalent in Iberia & Latin America and Scandinavia
etc... etc..

Odelia
10-09-2021, 09:33 AM
Is this shit accurate? I want to buy a kit from FTDNA, but I want to know if it's worth it or if I should just take cladefinder's results for granted! :confused: