Why is Pushkin for Latvia “ridiculous, funny, humiliating”?

[KirillMazur]

During quarantine, the brainless Latvian “intelligentsia” began to resent the Pushkin monument. This one.
https://cont.ws/uploads/pic/2020/4/pushkin-v-rige.jpg
Sandra Weinberga, an expert in the field of media, associate professor of RISEBA, simply cannot eat, looking at the great Russian poet. https://twitter.com/sandraveinberga/status/1252902330250539009 - the post already deleted.

“There is no place for such monuments in Riga, they supposedly testify to the emptiness of Latvian cultural ties and are essentially ridiculous and humiliating,” Professor Weinberga insists on her own.

I will not ask now why this turbopatriot is walking around the park at a time when the country, exhausted in the fight against coronavirus, is sitting in houses and apartments under the risk of considerable fines, which the police willingly write out to everyone.

And I will not even remind you that the very Anna Kern, the wife of the commandant of the Riga garrison, lived in Riga. Pushkin wrote letters to her and devoted poetry.

I will omit today the fact that the professor is not alone. The "Latvian patriotic public", outraged by the rampant Russian classical poetry, has repeatedly desecrated this modest monument, sawing off parts of the sculpture or "decorating" the poet’s neck with a symbolic loop.

Today I’m talking about what patriots like this frantic Sandra consider Real Values, and I’ll start this chapter with a sculpture that the “Latvian patriotic public” erected in front of the Academy of Arts and which does not reject any true Latvian patriot:
https://cont.ws/uploads/pic/2020/4/IMG_5643.jpg
Russian journalist Yuri Alekseev, a non-handshake one for the Latvian "patriotic public", drew attention to the legal document "CANON OF CULTURE OF LATVIA", which was written by the Latvians themselves - the best art experts, collecting in it 99 of the best cultural values in the history of the Latvian people. https://www.russkije.lv/ru/journalism/read/alexeyev-latvian-culture/

So, the meticulous Alekseev, having reviewed the entire list, found that 40% of the main cultural values of Latvians were created during the Soviet era, and another 28% in the dark times of Russian tsarism.

That is, almost 70% of all Latvian cultural achievements are achievements of the “damned occupiers” and “damned collaborators”.
However, with the remaining 30%, not everything is so beautiful either. For example, “SILHOUETTE OF OLD RIGA”, formed by the Germans and Swedes, can’t relate to the Latvian ethnic culture. Not to mention the epic "Lāčplēsis", copied by the captain of the tsarist army from the Russian prince Vyacheslav Borisovich, who led the defense of Yuriev (Tartu) from the Teutons.

Addressing the Latvian intellectuals who fought so hard for national liberation and emancipation, Yura Alekseev draws attention to the main thing, which I would like to emphasize:

"From your Canon it is obvious that over the last 21 years of your independence, NOT A SINGLE noticeable work of visual art, NOT A SINGLE musical piece, NOT A SINGLE movie, practically not a single literary work has been created ...
Let me remind you once again: this “Canon” was not composed by the damned “occupiers”, but by your best art experts.
And are you ready to continue shouting that the Russians “oppressed” you? Not ashamed?"

Well what can I say ... No, they are not ashamed. They feel good! They, within the framework of the "fight" against coronavirus, have already spent 4.5 billion euros in two months and are not going to stop there, while at least something else can be sucked out of the EU bins. But Pushkin is hindering them. If not for him, then in general everything would be blessed and spiritually uplifting.

[Satem]

Unfortunatelly we don't have any Latvians here, but maybe some members will know. This case is really interesting

Hard to expect that nation that has been opressed by another countries so long would be able to create their own cultural achievement, but still they have very old reamined songs you can hear in song festival each 5 years so talking that they don't have their own culture also would be overestimated

[Lemminkäinen]

Could it be that Latvians prefer Latin alphabets? Sound like a simple answer, but usually it is something apparent provoking people.

[KirillMazur]

Yurmala. Another example of "free" art.
https://cs6.pikabu.ru/post_img/2017/08/12/10/1502558312191764314.jpg

[Satem]

^Well, at least it isn't another huge monument made out of cement which is made in each city

[KirillMazur]

^Well, at least it isn't another huge monument made out of cement which is made in each city
I do not argue, the material is good, but the content:D.

[Satem]

I do not argue, the material is good, but the content:D.

You can also see this content in Prague or Brussels, so this content is not as controversive as you think

[Ülev]

Latvians know it better, another proof of that thesis?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?319229-Are-East-Slavs-mentally-closer-to-Turks-than-to-Western-Europeans

[Methuselah]

So, the meticulous Alekseev, having reviewed the entire list, found that 40% of the main cultural values of Latvians were created during the Soviet era, and another 28% in the dark times of Russian tsarism.

Why is it so hard for Russians to understand that Balts simply does not want to be like you. Just let other people be what they want to be. It's not your land after all. This is not about few monuments here and there.

[Lemminkäinen]

We have a Russian sculpture and will keep it, because Sovjet Union is part of our social memory. You can like it or hate it, but memories don't disappear and good so.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/thumb/e/e3/Maailmanrauha.jpg/250px-Maailmanrauha.jpg


World peace (statue)
A statue sculpted by Oleg Kirjuhin in Helsinki

World Peace is a bronze sculpture donated by the city of Moscow to the city of Helsinki, sculpted by sculptor Oleg Kirjuhin. It is located in Hakaniemenranta and was unveiled on January 14, 1990, two months after the fall of the Berlin Wall. In return, the City of Helsinki donated the sculpture Children of Peace by sculptor Antti Neuvonen to the city of Moscow.

The statue is 6.5 meters high. In it, people representing different continents support the earth with leaves with one hand. With their free hands, the figures of the statue have clenched their fists, allowing them to demonstrate for world peace.

World peace has sparked debate in Finland. In 2008, it was chosen as both the third ugliest and third most beloved statue in Helsinki in newspaper reader polls. [1] [2]

The statue will have to be moved due to the relocation of the Hakaniemi bridge and the construction of Hakaniemenranta. The design competition was decided in the spring of 2018, and the town plan was decided in early 2019. [3]

[Methuselah]

We have a Russian sculpture and will keep it, because Sovjet Union is part of our social memory. You can like it or hate it, but memories don't disappear and good so.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/thumb/e/e3/Maailmanrauha.jpg/250px-Maailmanrauha.jpg


World peace (statue)
A statue sculpted by Oleg Kirjuhin in Helsinki

World Peace is a bronze sculpture donated by the city of Moscow to the city of Helsinki, sculpted by sculptor Oleg Kirjuhin. It is located in Hakaniemenranta and was unveiled on January 14, 1990, two months after the fall of the Berlin Wall. In return, the City of Helsinki donated the sculpture Children of Peace by sculptor Antti Neuvonen to the city of Moscow.

The statue is 6.5 meters high. In it, people representing different continents support the earth with leaves with one hand. With their free hands, the figures of the statue have clenched their fists, allowing them to demonstrate for world peace.

World peace has sparked debate in Finland. In 2008, it was chosen as both the third ugliest and third most beloved statue in Helsinki in newspaper reader polls. [1] [2]

The statue will have to be moved due to the relocation of the Hakaniemi bridge and the construction of Hakaniemenranta. The design competition was decided in the spring of 2018, and the town plan was decided in early 2019. [3]
Crazy times.
https://i.ibb.co/tYfbk8Q/13-3-11286212.jpg

[KirillMazur]

You can also see this content in Prague or Brussels, so this content is not as controversive as you think
Very authoritative countries. Let's set up several similar monuments in different countries and well advertise them - and now people are beginning to consider vulgarity and degradation the norm.
When this happens, then the Satanists already in power.

Why is it so hard for Russians to understand that Balts simply does not want to be like you. Just let other people be what they want to be. It's not your land after all. This is not about few monuments here and there.
Local aborigines left the forests and settled in Russian cities - Riga, Revel, Helsingfors ... And now they believe that this land belongs only to them. It always happens when one people cedes to another their houses, plants and factories, power plants and other infrastructure.

But it does not at all follow from this that we have forgotten everything. Not at all. We remember, we remember everything. And former local forest residents are aware of this. They know that Russians always come back for their own. And they are afraid. Dalia Grybauskaite is also afraid (the former secretary of the Communist Party of Lithuania and secret KGB officer Daria Gribova), other balts with surnames that end in -s are also afraid.

Their future is a complete assimilation and total oblivion of the fact that once upon a time there lived not so much "proud" as a very, very narrow-minded people. This is precisely their nightmare and, therefore, their best punishment.
The Soviet Union naturally "pulled out by ears" wild Swedish-German swineherds into civilization, making them a "showcase of socialism." Because they themselves are not capable of civilization, but are only able to cross to the more "rich" side at the moment.
The experiment was unsuccessful, and - now the pendulum swung in the other direction. Paraphrasing the Bible - they got out of the shit, again into the shit and will return. Amen.

[Satem]

^WTF Riga was firstly Teutonic and Tallinn was firstly Danish city. The only reason Russians were developing this area was something that Russians really need cough cough access to the sea(which is not frozen for most part of year) cough cough
Estonia is developing better than Russia and Balts are not "German-Swedish swineherds" even genetics prove it

[Ülev]

(...)

Local aborigines left the forests and settled in Russian cities - Riga, Revel, Helsingfors ... And now they believe that this land belongs only to them. It always happens when one people cedes to another their houses, plants and factories, power plants and other infrastructure.
(...)

lol, then why Nakhodka (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakhodka) on the Sea of Japan is ugly as fuck, whereas Riga has West European architecture?

[Lemminkäinen]

I have wondered why very capable people are not able to found modern industry. Obviously people have to move away from their comfort zone and it is easier said than done if you can sell crude oil, which isn't inventive or advanced work. Oil sellers have had golden times, but this won't last forever. There is also another issue that needs to be taken into account. The world will be divided again into two power blocks. How does Russia survive and avoid becoming a China's raw material supplier and falling into a bad situation in which China sets prices on the basis of African markets.

[Rumata]

Hard to expect that nation that has been opressed by another countries so long would be able to create their own cultural achievement

^WTF Riga was firstly Teutonic

Okey.

[Rumata]

This kind of art provokes male impotence.


Yurmala. Another example of "free" art.
https://cs6.pikabu.ru/post_img/2017/08/12/10/1502558312191764314.jpg

[Rumata]

This kind of art provokes male impotence.


Yurmala. Another example of "free" art.
https://cs6.pikabu.ru/post_img/2017/08/12/10/1502558312191764314.jpg

[Satem]

This kind of art provokes male impotence.

So you are impotent after watching this?

[Ülev]

This kind of art provokes male impotence.

thanks for sharing your personal feelings

[Rumata]

So you are impotent after watching this?

I'm not.
"Provokes" doesn't equal "causes instantly and inevitably".

It's fine as a sexual perversion though. Depends on your taste.

[Satem]

Okey.

:thumb001:

[Satem]

I'm not.
"Provokes" doesn't equal "causes inevitably".

Yeah, I know. I meant by saying this that you are exaggerating it, no one is so stupid to pee naked outside just because this person saw few monuments presenting it. Same as nobody is so stupid to be communist just because he saw some Lenin monument in each bigger city in Russia

[Rumata]

:thumb001:

Are we to see your grudges about the imposed German culture?

[Rumata]

Yeah, I know. I meant by saying this that you are exaggerating it, no one is so stupid to pee naked outside just because this person saw few monuments presenting it. Same as nobody is so stupid to be communist just because he saw some Lenin monument in each bigger city in Russia

Sure, these objects do influence the mass consciousness.

Also, even this statue per se can cause a bit of aversion to women in general.

[Satem]

Are we to see your grudges about the imposed German culture?

No because they given Christianity to those lands so it wasn't giving German culture in place of local one but giving medieval Christian culture in place of pagan one

[Satem]

Sure, these objects do influence the mass consciousness.

Also, even this statue per se can cause a bit of aversion to women in general.

I don't like using this argument but
do you have any proofs?

[Rumata]

No because they given Christianity to those lands so it wasn't giving German culture in place of local one but giving medieval Christian culture in place of pagan one

Christianity doesn't have anything to do with my post.
Do you try to say Latvia wasn't Germanised?

[Rumata]

I don't like using this argument but
do you have any proofs?

I don't care to have them.

But according to my personal experience people usually find urination non-esthetic.

[Lemminkäinen]

Christianity doesn't have anything to do with my post.
Do you try to say Latvia wasn't Germanised?

Latvia was Germanised, as well as Estonia, unfortunately. Those countries were also sosialised, unfortunately. How on the earth some people see a bad development as a good development? IMO this sounds like politics in a bad mode.

[Methuselah]

This kind of art provokes male impotence.

Horrible art. Not worse than embalmed Lenin or Rasputin's cock but still horrible.

We have peeing statues as well by the way.
https://i.ibb.co/WWMcWGs/badbadboy-on-the-market.jpg

[Lemminkäinen]

Horrible art. Not worse than embalmed Lenin or Rasputin's cock but still horrible.

We have peeing statues as well by the way.
https://i.ibb.co/WWMcWGs/badbadboy-on-the-market.jpg

It was moved years ago from Kauppatori to Jätkäsaari. Now only passengers from Estonia can see it :)

[Satem]

Christianity doesn't have anything to do with my post.
Do you try to say Latvia wasn't Germanised?

Not really, I would rather call it assimilation of German culture to local one. Decorating Christmas tree was also originally German idea. Did German forced Russians to do so? No, it was assimilation

[Lemminkäinen]

Not really, I would rather call it assimilation of German culture to local one. Decorating Christmas tree was also originally German idea. Did German forced Russians to do so? No, it was assimilation

People were not replaced, but don't try to express that Germans didn't hamper the development of the local culture.

[Methuselah]

It was moved years ago from Kauppatori to Jätkäsaari. Now only passengers from Estonia can see it :)

Indeed. Living in the past is not a good idea. It looks more like this these days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH10bwuaxPg

[Joso]

Yurmala. Another example of "free" art.
https://cs6.pikabu.ru/post_img/2017/08/12/10/1502558312191764314.jpg

So Mari is still alive!

[Rumata]

Not really, I would rather call it assimilation of German culture to local one.

I know only the opposite information:

Until the 19th century, the Latvian written language was influenced by German Lutheran pastors and the German language, because the upper class of local society was formed by Baltic Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_language#History

[Rumata]

Horrible art. Not worse than embalmed Lenin or Rasputin's cock but still horrible.

I knew you had to say your "what-about-you?" here. But what about "Rasputin's cock"? Have they really memorized it somewhere?

[Ülev]

Śfinster statue in Gorzów Wielkopolski
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomniki_w_Gorzowie_Wielkopolskim#%C5%9Afinster

"rotting West" (загнивающий запад)

[Methuselah]

I knew you had to say your "what-about-you?" here. But what about "Rasputin's cock"? Have they really memorized it somewhere?

Well people laughing at other countries deserve some criticism.

Yeah it was on display some time ago in St. Petersburg i heard. Not sure if it's still there. I'm more concerned about Lenin tho.

[mutabor]

Pushkin as an Ethiopian descendant will be more suitable in Africa as a statue. There were days of Soviet-Ethiopian friendship when Ethiopian proletariat was studying in the Soviet Union.

[Benim]

Pushkin as an Ethiopian descendant will be more suitable in Africa as a statue. There were days of Soviet-Ethiopian friendship when Ethiopian proletariat was studying in the Soviet Union.

Do you have a problem with the fact he was part ethiopian?

[Rumata]

Well people laughing at other countries deserve some criticism.
I laugh at my city's modern "art" which is of similar artistic value too. What you gonna do about it?


Yeah it was on display some time ago in St. Petersburg i heard. Not sure if it's still there. I'm more concerned about Lenin tho.
I believe cocks are displayed all around these times. I hope it was removed if it was there.
Concerning Lenin, I can agree with you that Red square isn't the best place for this purpose.

[mutabor]

Do you have a problem with the fact he was part ethiopian?

As we know Ethiopians have Arabic blood in them. Arabs and Jews are capable in humanitarian subjects. A lot of Russian/Soviet musicians and poets were of Jewish descent.

[Salty Ears]

Aleksandr Pushkin is from old russian noble dynasty that took part in the main russian events from 13th century. Except ethiopian, he have many other roots (main is russian of course), but when somebody is talking about Pushkin they remember about his some exotic origin, while he is more russian, german e.t.c.

[Salty Ears]

As we know Ethiopians have Arabic blood in them. Arabs and Jews are capable in humanitarian subjects. A lot of Russian/Soviet musicians and poets were of Jewish descent.

How many recognized poets, writers and poets of russian golden and silver age were of jewish origin?

[Benim]

How many recognized poets, writers and poets of russian golden and silver age were of jewish origin?

He's just trolling, also, ethiopians don't have arabic DNA too much, they are their own distinct semitic branch.

[Loxie]

During quarantine, the brainless Latvian “intelligentsia” began to resent the Pushkin monument. This one.

Today I’m talking about what patriots like this frantic Sandra consider Real Values, and I’ll start this chapter with a sculpture that the “Latvian patriotic public” erected in front of the Academy of Arts and which does not reject any true Latvian patriot:
https://cont.ws/uploads/pic/2020/4/IMG_5643.jpg



Yurmala. Another example of "free" art.
https://cs6.pikabu.ru/post_img/2017/08/12/10/1502558312191764314.jpg

You have problem only with female sculptures?

There are so many sculptures in the world (even classic work) depicting peeing males, that does not offend you?

[Dušan]

These Baltic states are worthless and miserable.

[Ülev]

These Baltic states are worthless and miserable.

Balkan not Baltic maybe?

[Dušan]

Balkan not Baltic maybe?

No, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

Balkan is cradle of civilization for those complexed peasants.