Greco Anatolian genetics are the greatest sea farers on planet earth

[Rabbit Hole]

Seafaring is a mode of travel, a way to traverse maritime space that enables not only the transport of goods and materials but also of people and ideas — communicating and sharing knowledge across the sea and between different lands. Seagoing ships under sail were operating between the Levant, Egypt, Cyprus and Anatolia by the mid-third millennium BC and within the Aegean by the end of that millennium. By the Late Bronze Age (after ca. 1700/1600 BC), seaborne trade in the eastern Mediterranean made the region an economic epicentre, one in which there was no place for Aegean, Canaanite or Egyptian trading monopolies, or ‘thalassocracies’. At that time, the world of eastern Mediterranean seafaring and seafarers became much more complex, involving a number of different peoples in multiple networks of economic and social exchange.

This much is known, or in many cases widely presumed. Is it possible to trace the origins and emergence of these early trade networks? Can we discuss at any reasonable level who was involved in these maritime ventures? Who built the early ships in which maritime trade was conducted, and who captained them? Who sailed them? Which ports and harbours were the most propitious for maritime trade? What other evidence exists for seafaring, fishing, the exploitation of marine resources and related maritime matters?

This study seeks to address such questions by examining a wide range of material, documentary and iconographic evidence, and re-examining a multiplicity of varying interpretations on Bronze Age seafaring and seafarers in the eastern Mediterranean, from Anatolia in the north to Egypt in the south and west to Cyprus. The Aegean world operated on the western boundaries of this region, but is referred to more in passing than in engagement. Because the social aspects of seafaring and transport, the relationship different peoples had with the sea, and the whole notion of ‘seascapes’ are seldom discussed in the literature of the eastern Mediterranean Bronze Age, this volume devotes significant attention to such factors, including: mobility, connectivity, the length and purpose as well as the risk of the journey, the knowledge and experience of navigation and travel, ‘working’ the sea, the impact of distance and access to the exotic upon peoples’ identities and ideologies, and much more.

https://www.sidestone.com/books/seafaring-and-seafarers-in-the-bronze-age-eastern-mediterranean
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/map_diffusion_agriculture.shtml

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[Ion Basescul]

In the distant past, sure, but today is the age of the mutts.

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[Rabbit Hole]

In the distant past, sure, but today is the age of the mutts.

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In the past, in the future on earth.

[AncientGreek]

Sea Peoples were doing what Vikings did only 2000 years earlier. :vikingship:

[Dr_Maul]

Sea Peoples were doing what Vikings did only 2000 years earlier. :vikingship:

Almost 3500 years really

[Rabbit Hole]

Sea Peoples were doing what Vikings did only 2000 years earlier. :vikingship:

Exactly, we all know this.

[Rabbit Hole]

Sea Peoples were doing what Vikings did only 2000 years earlier. :vikingship:

Exactly, we all know this.

[tipirneni]

https://www.deamuseum.org/ccp/img/opium/4a3L.jpg
The sea route connecting Atlantic to the Pacific was very active during Chalcolithic time period. Due to this you will see some European & Caucasian admixture in samples on the east and some South Asian admixture in samples in MiddleEast, Atlantic etc...

Greco-Anatolian sea faring was mostly local in Mediterranean. It was not as wide area as Chalcolithic copper/tin trade routes

[yamagi]

I'll be jerking to this thought

[Rabbit Hole]

https://www.deamuseum.org/ccp/img/opium/4a3L.jpg
The sea route connecting Atlantic to the Pacific was very active during Chalcolithic time period. Due to this you will see some European & Caucasian admixture in samples on the east and some South Asian admixture in samples in MiddleEast, Atlantic etc...

Greco-Anatolian sea faring was mostly local in Mediterranean. It was not as wide area as Chalcolithic copper/tin trade routes

So you can associate this with the coastal Med part at any rate I will agree and rep you for this.

[Rabbit Hole]

I'll be jerking to this thought

Please do and upload it onto Porn Hub for good messure.

[Rabbit Hole]

https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-bronze-age-trade-trade-routes.html
The Bronze Age was, obviously, defined by the emergence of bronze. However, this change impacted societies in more ways than you might think. In this lesson, we'll see how trade changed in this era, as well as how that set the stage for changes to come.
Trading in the Bronze Age
Global trade is a huge part of the world today. It's practically impossible for a country to function economically without participating in an international degree of buying and selling. This is very much understood as a product of modern societies, but that doesn't mean it's an entirely modern phenomenon. In fact, the origins of this trade are pretty ancient.

Way back, around 3,000 BCE, ancient innovators started smelting copper with tin in order to create a stronger metal called bronze. As the Bronze Age began, other innovations developed, including more advanced societies, stronger political structures, and improved sailing technology. Societies around the world grew faster than ever before. At the center of this growth was trade. Societies were in greater contact, and they exchanged products with each other on a greater scale. It was a changing world, and trade was at the center of it all.

Local Trade
Trade became a big part of life in the Bronze Age, but then again, human societies have always exchanged goods. So, what makes the Bronze Age so special? Trade increased in both size and scale during this era, and to see that we need to look at trade in a few different ways. Let's start with trade on the local scale.

By the Bronze Age, most societies were settled, agricultural, and had established political structures. Farmers spent their time producing crops for themselves, along with extra crops to sell. Artisans made their crafts, sold them, and used the money to purchase food. People within a society were already trading on a large scale by the Bronze Age, but improved technologies by the 3rd millennium BCE let them start producing more and selling it farther away. People traded between cities, and then started trading within limited regions.

Minoan fresco of Bronze-Age boats and a coastal village
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These were some of the first substantial trade routes of the Bronze Age, many of them based around water systems like the Nile River or the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. Boat technology let merchants sail along river systems and coastlines, connecting limited regions within trade networks. The domestication of pack animals like camels also helped facilitate increased interaction between communities over land.

Long-Distance Trade
Before long, some of these regional trade routes began stretching even farther. As they did, new settlements emerged along the trade routes as places for merchants to meet and exchange goods. With these trading settlements, merchants could deal in products from farther distances and travel farther themselves. By the end of the Bronze Age, merchants were dealing in large-scale regional trade. The entire Mediterranean was connected by trade routes, as was the Middle East, Central Europe, Central Asia, and East Asia. These large-scale regions were formed by people sharing products and ideas on a larger scale than ever before.

Bronze-Age bell from China
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Trade of this scale was generally motivated by the demand for rare, often luxury items that were not available on a local level. A Mesopotamian city didn't need to important grains from across the Mediterranean; they had plenty of that. Instead they needed things they couldn't easily get their hands on. Spices and minerals were major parts of these trade routes, but being the Bronze Age, you may be able to guess what materials were in the highest demand: those for making bronze.

Bronze is created from mixing copper with tin. As the demand for bronze increased, so did the demand for copper, and the copper trade was a major industry of the era that dominated regional trade routes. However, it was tin that really defined the need for more expansive trade. Tin is pretty rare, and most tin mines available to Bronze-Age people were relatively small. So, in order to make bronze, societies often had to import tin from far away, and constantly be on the lookout for new trade partners with access to the rare material.

Tin was pretty rare. This map shows some of the important sources of tin used by Bronze-Age people.
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[War Chef]

Actually no. Lebanese-phoenician Tunisian carthaginian are the best genetics

[War Chef]

I'm sorry but r u saying the sea people's were Greeks? Where is proof of that.

[Rabbit Hole]

I'm sorry but r u saying the sea people's were Greeks? Where is proof of that.

This is the spread of J2 Greco-Anatolian genes and migration read the previous posts.

[Rabbit Hole]

Actually no. Lebanese-phoenician Tunisian carthaginian are the best genetics

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/07/canaanite-bible-ancient-dna-lebanon-genetics-archaeology/

Oh you mean this? Levantine Bronze Age genetics that were found in Levant samples that were partly Mycenaean partly Anatolian in descent?

So that's the same thing basically.