View Full Version : Are You Closer to Turkmen or Polish?
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:28 PM
Scaled:
Turkmen:A,0.0843977,-0.0436301,-0.0071094,-0.0055867,-0.0405659,-0.0032847,0.006911,0.0038289,-0.0183616,-0.0109948,-0.0092922,-0.001582,0.0011286,-0.0041083,0.0020559,0.004503,-0.0015839,7.5e-05,-0.000824,-0.0030014,-0.0072003,-0.0019647,-0.0045693,-0.0012987,0.0030557
Turkmen:B,0.0811938,-0.053823,-0.0083593,-0.004845,-0.0412383,-0.0036255,0.0096353,0.0082688,-0.0133623,-0.0095067,-0.0060627,-0.0018233,0.0010902,-0.0070417,0.0041168,0.007646,-0.0036073,0.0019003,0.0005868,-0.0026055,-0.0072372,-0.0037095,-0.0040468,0.0001808,0.0027543
Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.0577382,0.0 406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:31 PM
Unscaled:
Distance to: gixajo
0.05192656 Polish
0.05309346 Turkmen:B
0.05360615 Turkmen:A
Scaled:
Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.10386202 Polish
0.23167173 Turkmen:A
0.24022509 Turkmen:B
Kaspias
05-02-2020, 08:31 PM
Distance to: Kaspias_scaled
0.12391690 Polish
0.14318346 Turkmen:A
0.15295376 Turkmen:B
Rocinante
05-02-2020, 08:33 PM
Unscaled:
0.04644704 Turkmen:B
0.04688421 Turkmen:A
0.04944057 Polish
Scaled:
0.11000938 Polish
0.21430372 Turkmen:A
0.22304155 Turkmen:B
Rgvgjhvv
05-02-2020, 08:34 PM
Distance to: Markos
0.04143014 Turkmen:A
0.04312475 Turkmen:B
0.04640430 Polish
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:34 PM
Distance to: Kaspias_scaled
0.12391690 Polish
0.14318346 Turkmen:A
0.15295376 Turkmen:B
Distance to: Kaspias
0.03184136 Turkmen:A
0.03192532 Turkmen:B
0.04429337 Polish
Results change a lot , isnīt it?
I will check Polish scaled/unescaled samples...
Dr_Maul
05-02-2020, 08:35 PM
I'm closer to neither because Davidski is not accepting any samples until July ;((
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:36 PM
Unscaled:
0.04644704 Turkmen:B
0.04688421 Turkmen:A
0.04944057 Polish
Scaled:
0.11000938 Polish
0.21430372 Turkmen:A
0.22304155 Turkmen:B
Do you think there is any problem with Polish sample?
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:43 PM
I think itīs ok...
Polish scaled:
Target: Polish
Distance: 0.0315% / 0.00031482
93.0 Northeast_Europe
4.4 Baltics
0.8 Aegean
0.6 Northwest_Germanic
0.6 Scandinavian
0.4 Sardinia
0.2 France
Target: Polish
Distance: 0.7891% / 0.00789052
55.6 Slavs
24.4 Baltics
11.2 Scythians
4.8 Germanics
4.0 Hellenes
Polish unscaled:
Target: Polish
Distance: 1.7685% / 0.01768456
71.8 Medieval_Slav
26.2 Nordic_Sweden
2.0 Partic_Iranic
Hapanuwa
05-02-2020, 08:50 PM
Distance to: Hapanuwa_scaled
0.13488161 Turkmen:A
0.14478647 Turkmen:B
0.16017822 Polish
Distance to: Hapanuwa
0.02835817 Turkmen:A
0.02932772 Turkmen:B
0.05047740 Polish
Lucas
05-02-2020, 08:54 PM
I don't know. I must try.
Lucas
05-02-2020, 08:55 PM
I don't know. I must try.
It must be a joke:)
Distance to: Lukasz_scaled
0.03025788 Polish ???????
0.23753155 Turkmen:A
0.24691894 Turkmen:B
Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 3.0258% / 0.03025788
100.0 Polish
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:56 PM
After consulting several reputable experts, in a tough meeting, I removed unescaled sources.
Thanks to all those experts!:thumb001:
Impaler
05-02-2020, 08:56 PM
Distance to: Impaler_scaled
0.09997181 Polish
0.17245432 Turkmen:A
0.18213279 Turkmen:B
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:58 PM
Distance to: Markos
h
Better use scaled only, it was a bad idea using scaled and unscaled, I thought they were the same samples.
gixajo
05-02-2020, 08:59 PM
Distance to: Impaler
n
Only scaled results better.
Grace O'Malley
05-02-2020, 09:01 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 6.4370% / 0.06437020
97.4 Polish
2.6 Turkmen
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 6.4442% / 0.06444167 | ADC: 0.25x
98.8 Polish
1.2 Turkmen
Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.06462540 Polish
0.22869876 Turkmen:A
0.23732209 Turkmen:B
Thambi
05-02-2020, 09:05 PM
Distance to: Thambi_scaled
0.22606558 Turkmen:B
0.22958334 Turkmen:A
0.35592828 Polish
gixajo
05-02-2020, 09:06 PM
I forgot this:
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 10.2398% / 0.10239801
92.2 Polish
7.8 Turkmen
Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.10386202 Polish
0.23167173 Turkmen:A
0.24022509 Turkmen:B
Kaspias
05-02-2020, 09:07 PM
It must be a joke:)
Distance to: Lukasz_scaled
0.03025788 Polish ???????
0.23753155 Turkmen:A
0.24691894 Turkmen:B
Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 3.0258% / 0.03025788
100.0 Polish
Weird. Maybe you have Polish ancestry by chance?
gixajo
05-02-2020, 09:08 PM
It must be a joke:)
Distance to: Lukasz_scaled
0.03025788 Polish ???????
0.23753155 Turkmen:A
0.24691894 Turkmen:B
Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 3.0258% / 0.03025788
100.0 Polish
Wow, people form Antarctica is very Polish :rolleyes:
Pedro Ruben
05-02-2020, 09:10 PM
Scaled
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 10.4097% / 0.10409710
84.8 Polish
15.2 Turkmen:B
Unscaled
Target: Pedro
Distance: 10.4753% / 0.10475337
72.6 Turkmen:B
27.4 Polish
Aileron
05-02-2020, 09:10 PM
I havent had a DNA test but i am sure i would be closer to Turkmens
Defcon2
05-02-2020, 09:18 PM
Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.11790783 Polish
0.22019888 Turkmen:A
0.22838948 Turkmen:B
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 11.2340% / 0.11234012
84.2 Polish
15.8 Turkmen
Weird. Maybe you have Polish ancestry by chance?
According to my calculator he had 84% of imperial Russia, I'm not sure.
gixajo
05-02-2020, 09:24 PM
I havent had a DNA test but i am sure i would be closer to Turkmens
Who knows?
Rgvgjhvv
05-02-2020, 09:32 PM
These are fun threads but what are we to make of the inconsistencies that exist depending on the calculator or references used? If some are telling me I'm closer with Polish and others are telling me I'm closer with Turkmen... Then what is going on?! Makes me not believe anything tbh
Thracian
05-02-2020, 09:35 PM
Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.11106708 Polish
0.17152208 Turkmen:A
0.18163598 Turkmen:B
Coastal Elite
05-02-2020, 09:41 PM
Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.06984637 Polish
0.20925169 Turkmen:A
0.21878071 Turkmen:B
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 6.4743% / 0.06474314
88.4 Polish
11.6 Turkmen
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 6.4824% / 0.06482402 | ADC: 0.25x
89.8 Polish
10.2 Turkmen
celticdragongod
05-02-2020, 09:42 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.06193087 Polish
0.22671526 Turkmen:A
0.23497756 Turkmen:B
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1931% / 0.06193087 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Polish
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1931% / 0.06193087 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Polish
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1931% / 0.06193087 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Polish
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1535% / 0.06153529 | ADC: 0.25x
98.0 Polish
2.0 Turkmen
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1469% / 0.06146850
96.8 Polish
3.2 Turkmen
gixajo
05-02-2020, 09:43 PM
These are fun threads but what are we to make of the inconsistencies that exist depending on the calculator or references used? If some are telling me I'm closer with Polish and others are telling me I'm closer with Turkmen... Then what is going on?! Makes me not believe anything tbh
My fault, I only checked unscaled and scaled samples with myself, and the results were consistent.
I thought it would be interesting to use scaled and unescaled to see how distances work differently in each one, but the problem is that the results depend from the reference samples.
This system has its flaws but in this case, it was my fault, because I donīt know exactly how to use it correctly.
Anyways, this is only a game.
mitalit
05-02-2020, 09:46 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 9.5856% / 0.09585611
86.0 Polish
14.0 Turkmen
Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.10091015 Polish
0.21608163 Turkmen:A
0.22483571 Turkmen:B
Rgvgjhvv
05-02-2020, 09:48 PM
My fault, I only checked unscaled and scaled samples with myself, and the results were consistent.
I thought it would be interesting to use scaled and unescaled to see how distances work differently in each one, but the problem is that the results depend from the reference samples.
This system has its flaws but in this case, it was my fault, because I donīt know exactly how to use it correctly.
Anyways, this is only a game.
Oh no senor, sorry I don't mean scaled vs unscaled and what you did, I mean calculators provided through GEDMatch, for example vs ones through G25 coordinates.
Lucas
05-02-2020, 09:48 PM
Weird. Maybe you have Polish ancestry by chance?
Whole life believed I'm
https://i.imgur.com/DtgBVcu.png
And now I'm lost. It will be serious talk with my parents first...
Grace O'Malley
05-02-2020, 09:50 PM
The majority of Europeans will be closer to Polish. That's a given. Periphery populations are the ones that it is difficult to gauge.
gixajo
05-02-2020, 09:54 PM
The majority of Europeans will be closer to Polish. That's a given. Periphery populations are the ones that it is difficult to gauge.
I could be r1a-Z2125, and Azerbaidjan is close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:
PT Tagus
05-02-2020, 09:58 PM
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 11.2167% / 0.11216745
84.8 Polish
15.2 Turkmen
Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.11730246 Polish
0.22138402 Turkmen:A
0.23009944 Turkmen:B
Grace O'Malley
05-02-2020, 10:26 PM
I could be r1a-Z2125, and Azerbaidjan is close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:
Huh? :) I don't really understand your reply in reference to what I said. Polish are not an extreme population (i.e. outlier) so majority of Europeans will be closer to them than to some group like the Turkmen. Even something like Lithuanian most Europeans would be closer to them than Turkmen IMO.
gixajo
05-02-2020, 10:39 PM
Huh? :) I don't really understand your reply in reference to what I said. Polish are not an extreme population (i.e. outlier) so majority of Europeans will be closer to them than to some group like the Turkmen. Even something like Lithuanian most Europeans would be closer to them than Turkmen IMO.
A bad joke, my predicted haplotype suposedly is from a region close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:
Much closer to Turkmen than Polish
I didn't do G25 because I don't think much of it. This is with Dodecad K12b
Me
Target: Zoro
Distance: 11.0131% / 11.01311491
100.0 Turkmens
Target: Kurd_Iraq
Distance: 18.5034% / 18.50341860
100.0 Turkmens
Target: Kurd_Iraq
Distance: 1.6427% / 1.64269541 | ADC: 0.5x
32.4 Turkmen_Iraq
29.8 Kurd_KAZ
25.6 Lur_Iran
7.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.8 Kurd_Sorani
Target: Kurd_Iraq
Distance: 1.0947% / 1.09471269 | ADC: 0.25x
30.6 Lur_Iran
29.4 Kurds
23.0 Turkmen_Iraq
9.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
0.6 Cambodians
0.6 Syrians
0.4 Nganassan
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Dodecad
K12b
Distance
to: Kurd_Iraq
3.42
Kurd_Sorani
3.50
Kurd_Kurmanji
3.89
Lur_Iran
4.59
Turkmen_Iraq
4.94
Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.44
Iranian
6.59
Azerbaijani_Iran
18.50
Turkmens
19.08
Parsi_India
19.13
Turkmen_Iran
20.82
Georgian_Adjara
21.05
Kumyks
21.37
Balkar
22.16
Jordanians
24.86
Avar
25.62
Lezgins
25.68
Cypriots
25.72
Palestinian
26.00
Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
26.32
Crimean_Tatar_Coast
29.80
AFG_Tajik
31.68
AFG_Pashtun
31.89
Tajiks
33.34
Egyptans
34.13
Yemenese
34.44
Greek
52.11
Bosnian
52.52
Jatt
52.73
Italy_Aosta_Valley
53.63
Croat
53.64
Algerian
53.65
Balochi
54.22
Sindhi
54.28
Bashkir
71.67
Mongol
71.72
Polish
71.73
Sardinian
71.94
Velamas
72.02
Burmanese
72.37
Ethiopians
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Adamm
05-02-2020, 11:34 PM
Scaled:
Distance to: Adam_scaled
0.24512922 Polish
0.26108270 Turkmen:A
0.26655814 Turkmen:B
Unscaled:
Distance to: Adam
0.14026371 Turkmen:A
0.14222194 Turkmen:B
0.22474688 Polish
IrisSelene
05-02-2020, 11:39 PM
this was way too obvious for me since i get polish even on 23andme but alright hahaha
Distance to: IrisSelene_scaled
0.05903664 Polish
0.19583823 Turkmen:A
0.20603982 Turkmen:B
Target: IrisSelene_scaled
Distance: 4.7411% / 0.04741062
84.4 Polish
15.6 Turkmen
Chaos One
05-03-2020, 12:29 AM
Maybe there's a draw on this one.
paradox
05-03-2020, 12:38 AM
Distanceto: scaled
0.10492002 Polish
0.19840646 Turkmen:A
0.20885163 Turkmen:B
Target: scaled
Distance: 9.2437% / 0.09243738
78.0 Polish
22.0 Turkmen
My father's
Distanceto: Father_scaled
0.08052567 Polish
0.20560714 Turkmen:A
0.21572193 Turkmen:B
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.3395% / 0.07339480
85.2 Polish
14.8 Turkmen
PaleoEuropean
05-03-2020, 12:40 AM
English blood, Polski heart.
walid
05-03-2020, 12:50 AM
Distance to: Walid_scaled
0.27982972 Turkmen:A
0.28310262 Polish
0.28365757 Turkmen:B
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
05-03-2020, 12:52 AM
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 10.4489% / 0.10448931
86.0 Polish
14.0 Turkmen
Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.10915874 Polish
0.22000351 Turkmen:A
0.22863047 Turkmen:B
Vojnik
05-03-2020, 12:56 AM
<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik_scaled
0.09012316
Polish
0.20954697
Turkmen:A
0.21967588
Turkmen:B
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 8.3880% / 0.08388007 | ADC: 0.25x
86.8
Polish
13.2
Turkmen
</tbody>
60% Turkmen + %40 Polish ;)
altaic
05-03-2020, 05:50 AM
Distance to: Altaic
0.10163252 Turkmen:A
0.10603035 Turkmen:B
0.21191554 Polish
Target: Altaic
Distance: 9.5112% / 0.09511158
84.0 Turkmen
16.0 Polish
--------------------------------------------------------
Distance to: Altaic_scaled
0.16283775 Turkmen:A
0.17234875 Polish
0.17351993 Turkmen:B
Target: Altaic_scaled
Distance: 12.4025% / 0.12402499
54.0 Turkmen
46.0 Polish
Grace O'Malley
05-03-2020, 06:03 AM
A bad joke, my predicted haplotype suposedly is from a region close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:
Sorry luv that's the second time I haven't picked up some of your jokes. :)
dimadoe
05-03-2020, 06:12 AM
me
0.02880462 Polish
0.20379030 Turkmen:A
0.21287944 Turkmen:B
dad
0.02912662 Polish
0.21192979 Turkmen:A
0.22100036 Turkmen:B
Mingle
05-03-2020, 06:27 AM
Europeans will all get Polish and Asians will all get Turkmen.
Target: Mingle
Distance: 13.0717% / 0.13071712
80.2 Turkmen
19.8 Polish
Distance to: Mingle
0.13803996 Turkmen:A
0.14273271 Turkmen:B
0.22312725 Polish
gixajo
05-03-2020, 09:03 AM
me
0.02880462 Polish
0.20379030 Turkmen:A
0.21287944 Turkmen:B
dad
0.02912662 Polish
0.21192979 Turkmen:A
0.22100036 Turkmen:B
Direct Polish ancestors?
Karol Klačansky
05-03-2020, 10:45 AM
lol
Distance to: Karol_scaled
0.03867009 Polish
0.22527972 Turkmen:A
0.23395993 Turkmen:B
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