Are You Closer to Turkmen or Polish?

[gixajo]

Scaled:


Turkmen:A,0.0843977,-0.0436301,-0.0071094,-0.0055867,-0.0405659,-0.0032847,0.006911,0.0038289,-0.0183616,-0.0109948,-0.0092922,-0.001582,0.0011286,-0.0041083,0.0020559,0.004503,-0.0015839,7.5e-05,-0.000824,-0.0030014,-0.0072003,-0.0019647,-0.0045693,-0.0012987,0.0030557
Turkmen:B,0.0811938,-0.053823,-0.0083593,-0.004845,-0.0412383,-0.0036255,0.0096353,0.0082688,-0.0133623,-0.0095067,-0.0060627,-0.0018233,0.0010902,-0.0070417,0.0041168,0.007646,-0.0036073,0.0019003,0.0005868,-0.0026055,-0.0072372,-0.0037095,-0.0040468,0.0001808,0.0027543
Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.0577382,0.0 406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05

[gixajo]

Unscaled:

Distance to: gixajo
0.05192656 Polish
0.05309346 Turkmen:B
0.05360615 Turkmen:A

Scaled:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.10386202 Polish
0.23167173 Turkmen:A
0.24022509 Turkmen:B

[Kaspias]

Distance to: Kaspias_scaled
0.12391690 Polish
0.14318346 Turkmen:A
0.15295376 Turkmen:B

[Rocinante]

Unscaled:
0.04644704 Turkmen:B
0.04688421 Turkmen:A
0.04944057 Polish

Scaled:
0.11000938 Polish
0.21430372 Turkmen:A
0.22304155 Turkmen:B

[Rgvgjhvv]

Distance to: Markos
0.04143014 Turkmen:A
0.04312475 Turkmen:B
0.04640430 Polish

[gixajo]

Distance to: Kaspias_scaled
0.12391690 Polish
0.14318346 Turkmen:A
0.15295376 Turkmen:B

Distance to: Kaspias
0.03184136 Turkmen:A
0.03192532 Turkmen:B
0.04429337 Polish

Results change a lot , isn´t it?

I will check Polish scaled/unescaled samples...

[Dr_Maul]

I'm closer to neither because Davidski is not accepting any samples until July ;((

[gixajo]

Unscaled:
0.04644704 Turkmen:B
0.04688421 Turkmen:A
0.04944057 Polish

Scaled:
0.11000938 Polish
0.21430372 Turkmen:A
0.22304155 Turkmen:B

Do you think there is any problem with Polish sample?

[gixajo]

I think it´s ok...

Polish scaled:

Target: Polish
Distance: 0.0315% / 0.00031482
93.0 Northeast_Europe
4.4 Baltics
0.8 Aegean
0.6 Northwest_Germanic
0.6 Scandinavian
0.4 Sardinia
0.2 France

Target: Polish
Distance: 0.7891% / 0.00789052
55.6 Slavs
24.4 Baltics
11.2 Scythians
4.8 Germanics
4.0 Hellenes


Polish unscaled:

Target: Polish
Distance: 1.7685% / 0.01768456
71.8 Medieval_Slav
26.2 Nordic_Sweden
2.0 Partic_Iranic

[Hapanuwa]

Distance to: Hapanuwa_scaled
0.13488161 Turkmen:A
0.14478647 Turkmen:B
0.16017822 Polish

Distance to: Hapanuwa
0.02835817 Turkmen:A
0.02932772 Turkmen:B
0.05047740 Polish

[Lucas]

I don't know. I must try.

[Lucas]

I don't know. I must try.

It must be a joke:)

Distance to: Lukasz_scaled
0.03025788 Polish ???????
0.23753155 Turkmen:A
0.24691894 Turkmen:B

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 3.0258% / 0.03025788
100.0 Polish

[gixajo]

After consulting several reputable experts, in a tough meeting, I removed unescaled sources.

Thanks to all those experts!:thumb001:

[Impaler]

Distance to: Impaler_scaled
0.09997181 Polish
0.17245432 Turkmen:A
0.18213279 Turkmen:B

[gixajo]

Distance to: Markos
h

Better use scaled only, it was a bad idea using scaled and unscaled, I thought they were the same samples.

[gixajo]

Distance to: Impaler
n

Only scaled results better.

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 6.4370% / 0.06437020
97.4 Polish
2.6 Turkmen

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 6.4442% / 0.06444167 | ADC: 0.25x
98.8 Polish
1.2 Turkmen

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.06462540 Polish
0.22869876 Turkmen:A
0.23732209 Turkmen:B

[Thambi]

Distance to: Thambi_scaled
0.22606558 Turkmen:B
0.22958334 Turkmen:A
0.35592828 Polish

[gixajo]

I forgot this:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 10.2398% / 0.10239801
92.2 Polish
7.8 Turkmen

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.10386202 Polish
0.23167173 Turkmen:A
0.24022509 Turkmen:B

[Kaspias]

It must be a joke:)

Distance to: Lukasz_scaled
0.03025788 Polish ???????
0.23753155 Turkmen:A
0.24691894 Turkmen:B

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 3.0258% / 0.03025788
100.0 Polish

Weird. Maybe you have Polish ancestry by chance?

[gixajo]

It must be a joke:)

Distance to: Lukasz_scaled
0.03025788 Polish ???????
0.23753155 Turkmen:A
0.24691894 Turkmen:B

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 3.0258% / 0.03025788
100.0 Polish

Wow, people form Antarctica is very Polish :rolleyes:

[Pedro Ruben]

Scaled
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 10.4097% / 0.10409710
84.8 Polish
15.2 Turkmen:B

Unscaled
Target: Pedro
Distance: 10.4753% / 0.10475337
72.6 Turkmen:B
27.4 Polish

[Aileron]

I havent had a DNA test but i am sure i would be closer to Turkmens

[Defcon2]

Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.11790783 Polish
0.22019888 Turkmen:A
0.22838948 Turkmen:B

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 11.2340% / 0.11234012
84.2 Polish
15.8 Turkmen


Weird. Maybe you have Polish ancestry by chance?

According to my calculator he had 84% of imperial Russia, I'm not sure.

[gixajo]

I havent had a DNA test but i am sure i would be closer to Turkmens

Who knows?

[Rgvgjhvv]

These are fun threads but what are we to make of the inconsistencies that exist depending on the calculator or references used? If some are telling me I'm closer with Polish and others are telling me I'm closer with Turkmen... Then what is going on?! Makes me not believe anything tbh

[Thracian]

Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.11106708 Polish
0.17152208 Turkmen:A
0.18163598 Turkmen:B

[Coastal Elite]

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.06984637 Polish
0.20925169 Turkmen:A
0.21878071 Turkmen:B

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 6.4743% / 0.06474314
88.4 Polish
11.6 Turkmen

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 6.4824% / 0.06482402 | ADC: 0.25x
89.8 Polish
10.2 Turkmen

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.06193087 Polish
0.22671526 Turkmen:A
0.23497756 Turkmen:B

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1931% / 0.06193087 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Polish

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1931% / 0.06193087 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Polish

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1931% / 0.06193087 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Polish

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1535% / 0.06153529 | ADC: 0.25x
98.0 Polish
2.0 Turkmen

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 6.1469% / 0.06146850
96.8 Polish
3.2 Turkmen

[gixajo]

These are fun threads but what are we to make of the inconsistencies that exist depending on the calculator or references used? If some are telling me I'm closer with Polish and others are telling me I'm closer with Turkmen... Then what is going on?! Makes me not believe anything tbh

My fault, I only checked unscaled and scaled samples with myself, and the results were consistent.

I thought it would be interesting to use scaled and unescaled to see how distances work differently in each one, but the problem is that the results depend from the reference samples.

This system has its flaws but in this case, it was my fault, because I don´t know exactly how to use it correctly.

Anyways, this is only a game.

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 9.5856% / 0.09585611
86.0 Polish
14.0 Turkmen

Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.10091015 Polish
0.21608163 Turkmen:A
0.22483571 Turkmen:B

[Rgvgjhvv]

My fault, I only checked unscaled and scaled samples with myself, and the results were consistent.

I thought it would be interesting to use scaled and unescaled to see how distances work differently in each one, but the problem is that the results depend from the reference samples.

This system has its flaws but in this case, it was my fault, because I don´t know exactly how to use it correctly.

Anyways, this is only a game.

Oh no senor, sorry I don't mean scaled vs unscaled and what you did, I mean calculators provided through GEDMatch, for example vs ones through G25 coordinates.

[Lucas]

Weird. Maybe you have Polish ancestry by chance?

Whole life believed I'm

https://i.imgur.com/DtgBVcu.png

And now I'm lost. It will be serious talk with my parents first...

[Grace O'Malley]

The majority of Europeans will be closer to Polish. That's a given. Periphery populations are the ones that it is difficult to gauge.

[gixajo]

The majority of Europeans will be closer to Polish. That's a given. Periphery populations are the ones that it is difficult to gauge.

I could be r1a-Z2125, and Azerbaidjan is close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:

[PT Tagus]

Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 11.2167% / 0.11216745
84.8 Polish
15.2 Turkmen


Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.11730246 Polish
0.22138402 Turkmen:A
0.23009944 Turkmen:B

[Grace O'Malley]

I could be r1a-Z2125, and Azerbaidjan is close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:

Huh? :) I don't really understand your reply in reference to what I said. Polish are not an extreme population (i.e. outlier) so majority of Europeans will be closer to them than to some group like the Turkmen. Even something like Lithuanian most Europeans would be closer to them than Turkmen IMO.

[gixajo]

Huh? :) I don't really understand your reply in reference to what I said. Polish are not an extreme population (i.e. outlier) so majority of Europeans will be closer to them than to some group like the Turkmen. Even something like Lithuanian most Europeans would be closer to them than Turkmen IMO.

A bad joke, my predicted haplotype suposedly is from a region close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:

[Zoro]

Much closer to Turkmen than Polish

I didn't do G25 because I don't think much of it. This is with Dodecad K12b

Me

Target: Zoro
Distance: 11.0131% / 11.01311491
100.0 Turkmens


Target: Kurd_Iraq
Distance: 18.5034% / 18.50341860
100.0 Turkmens


Target: Kurd_Iraq
Distance: 1.6427% / 1.64269541 | ADC: 0.5x
32.4 Turkmen_Iraq
29.8 Kurd_KAZ
25.6 Lur_Iran
7.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.8 Kurd_Sorani

Target: Kurd_Iraq
Distance: 1.0947% / 1.09471269 | ADC: 0.25x
30.6 Lur_Iran
29.4 Kurds
23.0 Turkmen_Iraq
9.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
0.6 Cambodians
0.6 Syrians
0.4 Nganassan


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Dodecad
K12b


Distance
to: Kurd_Iraq


3.42
Kurd_Sorani


3.50
Kurd_Kurmanji


3.89
Lur_Iran


4.59
Turkmen_Iraq


4.94
Talysh_Azerbaijan


5.44
Iranian


6.59
Azerbaijani_Iran


18.50
Turkmens


19.08
Parsi_India


19.13
Turkmen_Iran


20.82
Georgian_Adjara


21.05
Kumyks


21.37
Balkar


22.16
Jordanians


24.86
Avar


25.62
Lezgins


25.68
Cypriots


25.72
Palestinian


26.00
Crimean_Tatar_Mountain


26.32
Crimean_Tatar_Coast


29.80
AFG_Tajik


31.68
AFG_Pashtun


31.89
Tajiks


33.34
Egyptans


34.13
Yemenese


34.44
Greek


52.11
Bosnian


52.52
Jatt


52.73
Italy_Aosta_Valley


53.63
Croat


53.64
Algerian


53.65
Balochi


54.22
Sindhi


54.28
Bashkir


71.67
Mongol


71.72
Polish


71.73
Sardinian


71.94
Velamas


72.02
Burmanese


72.37
Ethiopians

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[Adamm]

Scaled:

Distance to: Adam_scaled
0.24512922 Polish
0.26108270 Turkmen:A
0.26655814 Turkmen:B


Unscaled:

Distance to: Adam
0.14026371 Turkmen:A
0.14222194 Turkmen:B
0.22474688 Polish

[IrisSelene]

this was way too obvious for me since i get polish even on 23andme but alright hahaha


Distance to: IrisSelene_scaled
0.05903664 Polish
0.19583823 Turkmen:A
0.20603982 Turkmen:B




Target: IrisSelene_scaled
Distance: 4.7411% / 0.04741062
84.4 Polish
15.6 Turkmen

[Chaos One]

Maybe there's a draw on this one.

[paradox]

Distanceto: scaled
0.10492002 Polish
0.19840646 Turkmen:A
0.20885163 Turkmen:B

Target: scaled
Distance: 9.2437% / 0.09243738
78.0 Polish
22.0 Turkmen

My father's

Distanceto: Father_scaled
0.08052567 Polish
0.20560714 Turkmen:A
0.21572193 Turkmen:B

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.3395% / 0.07339480
85.2 Polish
14.8 Turkmen

[PaleoEuropean]

English blood, Polski heart.

[walid]

Distance to: Walid_scaled
0.27982972 Turkmen:A
0.28310262 Polish
0.28365757 Turkmen:B

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 10.4489% / 0.10448931
86.0 Polish
14.0 Turkmen



Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.10915874 Polish
0.22000351 Turkmen:A
0.22863047 Turkmen:B

[Vojnik]

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik_scaled


0.09012316
Polish


0.20954697
Turkmen:A


0.21967588
Turkmen:B


</tbody>



<tbody>
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 8.3880% / 0.08388007 | ADC: 0.25x



86.8
Polish





13.2
Turkmen

</tbody>

[Sora]

60% Turkmen + %40 Polish ;)

[altaic]

Distance to: Altaic
0.10163252 Turkmen:A
0.10603035 Turkmen:B
0.21191554 Polish

Target: Altaic
Distance: 9.5112% / 0.09511158
84.0 Turkmen
16.0 Polish

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Distance to: Altaic_scaled
0.16283775 Turkmen:A
0.17234875 Polish
0.17351993 Turkmen:B

Target: Altaic_scaled
Distance: 12.4025% / 0.12402499
54.0 Turkmen
46.0 Polish

[Grace O'Malley]

A bad joke, my predicted haplotype suposedly is from a region close to Turkmenistan.:picard1:

Sorry luv that's the second time I haven't picked up some of your jokes. :)

[dimadoe]

me

0.02880462 Polish
0.20379030 Turkmen:A
0.21287944 Turkmen:B


dad

0.02912662 Polish
0.21192979 Turkmen:A
0.22100036 Turkmen:B

[Mingle]

Europeans will all get Polish and Asians will all get Turkmen.

Target: Mingle
Distance: 13.0717% / 0.13071712
80.2 Turkmen
19.8 Polish

Distance to: Mingle
0.13803996 Turkmen:A
0.14273271 Turkmen:B
0.22312725 Polish

[gixajo]

me

0.02880462 Polish
0.20379030 Turkmen:A
0.21287944 Turkmen:B


dad

0.02912662 Polish
0.21192979 Turkmen:A
0.22100036 Turkmen:B

Direct Polish ancestors?

[Karol Klačansky]

lol
Distance to: Karol_scaled
0.03867009 Polish
0.22527972 Turkmen:A
0.23395993 Turkmen:B