DNA test results of Chris596

[Leto]

Real Jigaboo are only A and B. E migrated south from North Africa and took the jigaboo women away. E men were not nibbas they were afalou/mechtoid cro-magnoids.


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But most Africans are not A or B, they are some kind of E. Nigeria is mostly E. You can't get more SSA than them.

[Leto]

Add me in diagram, if you want

Gedrosia 3.49 Pct
Siberian 1.51 Pct
Northwest_African 0.87 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.69 Pct
North_European 42.01 Pct
South_Asian 0.19 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.37 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 21.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Nice results. I love the NE and Siberian. Soon there will be a Serbian reference on Dod K12b Vahaduo.

[Dean K]

Dude I am telling you the best way to know your real Ancestry is by know your background after that if you know you are full hungarian sl cheak your matches who is full hungarian by the calculator id he fit likw distance 1-4 its ok use this calculator. Copy your result take the hungarian result to the maximum like id you get 30% baltic use that to naximum try to to see what left from your result and then calculat the other population like Turkmeniatan and then you will see maybe you get 95% hungarian and 5% Turkmenjstan / caspian sea etnichities. But take a accuarte calculator on gedmatch that shows full hungarian not far from 1-4 in distance.

[Daos777]

But most Africans are not A or B, they are some kind of E. Nigeria is mostly E. You can't get more SSA than them.

The same is the case with basques who carry R. Obviously they are not largely steppe. Or Spaniards.

I mean the original E men were not SSA. E backmigrated into Africa, and from North Africa started spreading down south where only A and B men lived, who were the real negroids.

Original E men where Mechta-Afalou Cro-Magnoids you can look up their skeletal measurements as many skulls were found. They resembled more eurasians then they did Negroids. This is their migration route based on their mtDNA. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/aa5ed4f150972a546b56e59c149a60a1.jpg


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechta-Afalou


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[Chris596]

Dude I am telling you the best way to know your real Ancestry is by know your background after that if you know you are full hungarian sl cheak your matches who is full hungarian by the calculator id he fit likw distance 1-4 its ok use this calculator. Copy your result take the hungarian result to the maximum like id you get 30% baltic use that to naximum try to to see what left from your result and then calculat the other population like Turkmeniatan and then you will see maybe you get 95% hungarian and 5% Turkmenjstan / caspian sea etnichities. But take a accuarte calculator on gedmatch that shows full hungarian not far from 1-4 in distance.

That's a good idea, I'll try to do it maybe tomorrow. Most of my DNA matches on Myheritage are from Germany, USA and Scandinavia, but the majority of them have south slavic names.

[gixajo]

It says:

Most specific position on the YFull YTree is E-V13 Link to E-V13

E1b-V13 Panel Predicted E-V13 is the panel root. This panel is applicable and will definitely provide higher resolution.

Is the same subclade you got before do it or the newer is more accurate?

I don´t remember what was the subclade that gave you Morley´s predictor.

[Chris596]

Is the same subclade you got before do it or the newer is more accurate?

I don´t remember what was the subclade that gave you Morley´s predictor.

Yes, MorleyDNA gave me the same results, E-V13, E1b.

[Dean K]

That's a good idea, I'll try to do it maybe tomorrow. Most of my DNA matches on Myheritage are from Germany, USA and Scandinavia, but the majority of them have south slavic names.

Take my heritage countries share as a joke I use Denmark because in my country Dna test not allow so you know (:

[knez01]

Based on Dodecad K12b

https://i.ibb.co/DV1sq7K/Chris-Single.jpg

If u can add me it would be great

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 40.57
2 Atlantic_Med 26.27
3 Caucasus 21.85
4 Southwest_Asian 5.66
5 Gedrosia 3.88
6 Southeast_Asian 0.63
7 Siberian 0.54
8 Sub_Saharan 0.32
9 East_Asian 0.29
10 Northwest_African 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 7.55
2 Hungarians (Behar) 9.17
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.44
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.78
5 German (Dodecad) 15.07
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 19.68
7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 19.8
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.93
9 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.14
10 French (Dodecad) 21.37
11 French (HGDP) 21.6
12 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 22.76
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 23.37
14 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 23.47
15 Polish (Dodecad) 23.52
16 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.59
17 English (Dodecad) 23.66
18 Greek (Dodecad) 23.67
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.81
20 Tuscan (HGDP) 24.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 0.99
2 82.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.08
3 63.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.2
4 59% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 41% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.21
5 65.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 34.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.33
6 72.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.37
7 72.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 27.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.42
8 77% Hungarians (Behar) + 23% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.44
9 77.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.53
10 53.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.58
11 59% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 41% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.58
12 73.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.66
13 77.2% Romanians (Behar) + 22.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.67
14 54% Tuscan (HGDP) + 46% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.88
15 59.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.89

[CommonSense]

That's a good idea, I'll try to do it maybe tomorrow. Most of my DNA matches on Myheritage are from Germany, USA and Scandinavia, but the majority of them have south slavic names.

What about those with whom you share 30+ cM and who are not labeled as 'low confidence'?

[Chris596]

What about those with whom you share 30+ cM and who are not labeled as 'low confidence'?

The first two are both Hungarians (130.7 cM and 106.8 cM), the third lives in Germany but he seems to be Russian or Ukrainian based on his name (43.3 cM). These are my top matches.

[Jana]

Check your DNA Land, last time I updated results were ready after few hours :P

[Chris596]

Check your DNA Land, last time I updated results were ready after few hours :P

They are done! And wow! I'll make another thread about this! :D

[TheMaestro]

Nice! We share Haplo!

Are you E-V13 or E halo

[Oneeye]

Welcome to club E1b.

[Kamal900]

Welcome to club E1b.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RX68P1Co-4&t=70s

[Rocinante]

Are you E-V13 or E halo

Isn't E-V13 already E? I'm E-Z6015, it can be found in Spain, i don't know its origins.

[Oneeye]

Isn't E-V13 already E? I'm E-Z6015, it can be found in Spain, i don't know its origins.

Africa, brotha

[Rocinante]

Africa, brotha

My subclade might be from Iberia, i guess.

[TheMaestro]

Isn't E-V13 already E? I'm E-Z6015, it can be found in Spain, i don't know its origins.

Yes but there is a big difference in subclades, E-V13 is only halo from E that is found mostly in Europe.

[Rocinante]

Yes but there is a big difference in subclades, E-V13 is only halo from E that is found mostly in Europe.

Yeah i know, for what i was investigating, seems to be the case. Weird actually.

[17571imre]

you might also want to try this calculator from Ion Basescul. it worked great for me.

go to here: http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

then delete the whole spreadsheet in source.

then copy paste this in source.

Early_Slav_average,29.0666666666667,43.69666666666 67,12.0566666666667,5.82666666666667,4.68666666666 667,0.736666666666667,0.163333333333333,0,2.05,0.8 36666666666667,0.223333333333333,0.633333333333333 ,0
Early_Romanian/Balkanite,19.4060137457045,11.9784536082474,22.580 7216494845,12.9228865979381,26.8988659793814,5.599 20962199313,-0.0213745704467353,0.468213058419244,-0.591752577319588,0.21381443298969,0.6786597938144 34,-0.13127147766323,0
Turkic/Tatar/Cuman:Gokturk_DA89_Kazakhstan_607th_AD,23.34,24.27 ,0,17.19,0,0,0,5.24,26.14,0,0,0,3.81
Early_Germanic:SZ30_szolad_hungary_longobard_600th _AD,49.84,22.95,10.17,6.85,5.09,0.37,2.13,0.89,0,0 .77,0.3,0,0.65

and then put your own k13 results in target. you can follow these intsructions:
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/howtouse.htm

[Luke35]

you might also want to try this calculator from Ion Basescul. it worked great for me.

go to here: http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

then delete the whole spreadsheet in source.

then copy paste this in source.

Early_Slav_average,29.0666666666667,43.69666666666 67,12.0566666666667,5.82666666666667,4.68666666666 667,0.736666666666667,0.163333333333333,0,2.05,0.8 36666666666667,0.223333333333333,0.633333333333333 ,0
Early_Romanian/Balkanite,19.4060137457045,11.9784536082474,22.580 7216494845,12.9228865979381,26.8988659793814,5.599 20962199313,-0.0213745704467353,0.468213058419244,-0.591752577319588,0.21381443298969,0.6786597938144 34,-0.13127147766323,0
Turkic/Tatar/Cuman:Gokturk_DA89_Kazakhstan_607th_AD,23.34,24.27 ,0,17.19,0,0,0,5.24,26.14,0,0,0,3.81
Early_Germanic:SZ30_szolad_hungary_longobard_600th _AD,49.84,22.95,10.17,6.85,5.09,0.37,2.13,0.89,0,0 .77,0.3,0,0.65

and then put your own k13 results in target. you can follow these intsructions:
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/howtouse.htm

Chris:

Target: Chris596
Distance: 4.6331% / 4.63313980
52.8 Early_Slav_average
47.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite


Me:

Target: MrG
Distance: 2.0242% / 2.02422463
55.8 Early_Germanic
25.2 Early_Slav_average
19.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite


My Hungarian side is probably similar to Chris, but with minor German.

25.2% Early_Slav + 19.0% Early Romanian/Balkanite + 5.8% Early_Germanic = Total of 50%

[IrisSelene]

Chris:

Target: Chris596
Distance: 4.6331% / 4.63313980
52.8Early_Slav_average
47.2Early_Romanian/Balkanite


Me:

Target: MrG
Distance: 2.0242% / 2.02422463
55.8Early_Germanic
25.2Early_Slav_average
19.0Early_Romanian/Balkanite

My Hungarian side is similar to Chris, but with about 5.8% Germanic, according to this calculator.Oh oh can you compare with mine hahaha

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[Luke35]

Oh oh can you compare with mine hahaha

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Post your unsorted Eurogenes K13 components please. If you have the ones from your coverted 23andMe V3, those would be better.

[IrisSelene]

Post your unsorted Eurogenes K13 components please. If you have the ones from your coverted 23andMe V3, those would be better.What's unsorted??

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[Rgvgjhvv]

Congratulations on your results.

But just a side note, this forum-wide obsession with people having trace amounts of mongoloid is so ridiculous. Just so friggin lame. Like shut up lol

[Oneeye]

My subclade might be from Iberia, i guess.

One small leap from Africa

[Mingle]

Oceania yes, Amerindian no.

Oceanian is Negrito/Papuan-like. It can technically be considered "East Eurasian" but not Mongoloid.

[Mingle]

How so? If it was, then it wouldn't be a separate component. On a pca Siberians plot differently than do East Asian people (Chinese, Japanese, Korean )

East Eurasian isn't a single component. Siberians have different types of East Eurasian ancestry that make them plot differently to East Asians. Its like how both Brits and Italians have West Eurasian components, but plot differently.

[Mingle]

Isn't E-V13 already E? I'm E-Z6015, it can be found in Spain, i don't know its origins.

Yes, it can be found in Spain, but it has African origins. On the YFull tree, the only countries besides Spain that the clade is found in are African countries.

[Mortimer]

HUNG-Aryan

I wanted to say hung aryan

[Kaspias]

Oceanian is Negrito/Papuan-like. It can technically be considered "East Eurasian" but not Mongoloid.


Siberian is represented with Nganassan, they are fully East Eurasian.
Oceanian is not actually East Eurasian but they are closest to the SE Asians. Since Europeans don't have actual Oceanian admixture, it is usually misread as Oceanian instead of SE Asia.

[PAGANE]

Chris:

Target: Chris596
Distance: 4.6331% / 4.63313980
52.8 Early_Slav_average
47.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite


Me:

Target: MrG
Distance: 2.0242% / 2.02422463
55.8 Early_Germanic
25.2 Early_Slav_average
19.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite


My Hungarian side is probably similar to Chris, but with minor German.

25.2% Early_Slav + 19.0% Early Romanian/Balkanite + 5.8% Early_Germanic = Total of 50%

Here are my results + those of my brother and my mother
Target: M
Distance: 6.4921% / 6.49206073
58.6 Early_Romanian
26.2 Early_Slav_average
11.6 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
3.6 Early_Germanic


Target: D
Distance: 6.8145% / 6.81445283
65.6 Early_Romanian
22.2 Early_Slav_average
12.2 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman




Target: R
Distance: 7.1710% / 7.17099240
73.4 Early_Romanian
14.8 Early_Slav_average
11.8 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman

And here are four more Bulgarian results, all of my relatives

Target: Z
Distance: 2.8156% / 2.81556262
58.8 Early_Romanian
41.2 Early_Slav_average


Target: St
Distance: 5.5265% / 5.52653240
61.2 Early_Romanian
38.8 Early_Slav_average


Target: Well
Distance: 2.5107% / 2.51069240
70.4 Early_Romanian
19.6 Early_Slav_average
10.0 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman


Target: Ros
Distance: 4.6532% / 4.65320426
69.0 Early_Romanian
25.6 Early_Slav_average
3.8 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
1.6 Early_Germanic

[Impaler]

It seems that my ancestors didn't like to squat. :D
I have more Germanic than average Romanians.


Target: Impaler
Distance: 7.9857% / 7.98573999
67.4 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
13.6 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
11.2 Early_Germanic
7.8 Early_Slav_average


Target: Romanian
Distance: 2.0797% / 2.07971317
57.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
35.8 Early_Slav_average
4.2 Early_Germanic
2.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman


Target: Romanian_Wallachia_average
Distance: 2.1878% / 2.18776300
59.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
38.0 Early_Slav_average
2.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

[17571imre]

Target: mh
Distance: 2.5599% / 2.55987182

37.4 Early_Slav_average
37.4 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
25.2 Early_Germanic

without my Dutch i would score the same like Chris i think and for MrG the same so its not that strange for a Hungarian that he scores no Germanic.

[Kaspias]

Here are my results + those of my brother and my mother
Target: M
Distance: 6.4921% / 6.49206073
58.6 Early_Romanian
26.2 Early_Slav_average
11.6 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
3.6 Early_Germanic


Target: D
Distance: 6.8145% / 6.81445283
65.6 Early_Romanian
22.2 Early_Slav_average
12.2 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman




Target: R
Distance: 7.1710% / 7.17099240
73.4 Early_Romanian
14.8 Early_Slav_average
11.8 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman

And here are four more Bulgarian results, all of my relatives

Target: Z
Distance: 2.8156% / 2.81556262
58.8 Early_Romanian
41.2 Early_Slav_average


Target: St
Distance: 5.5265% / 5.52653240
61.2 Early_Romanian
38.8 Early_Slav_average


Target: Well
Distance: 2.5107% / 2.51069240
70.4 Early_Romanian
19.6 Early_Slav_average
10.0 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman


Target: Ros
Distance: 4.6532% / 4.65320426
69.0 Early_Romanian
25.6 Early_Slav_average
3.8 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
1.6 Early_Germanic


Target: Kaspias
Distance: 8.1574% / 8.15738557
65.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
29.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
5.2 Early_Slav_average

Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 4.8362% / 4.83621708
75.6 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
24.4 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

[Rabbit Hole]

Yes, it can be found in Spain, but it has African origins. On the YFull tree, the only countries besides Spain that the clade is found in are African countries.

E-v13 is from the Levant Natufian farmer

E-v13 heritage


Distance to: Rabbit_Hole_Mom
5.49935451 R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
5.80156875 R1550_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.38050811 R1547_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.38497800 R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.51410008 R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.47437903 R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.92108177 MA2210_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp
9.50399390 R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
9.79117460 R130_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
9.79392669 65_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3650_ybp
9.86527749 R126_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
10.39173229 MA2213_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp
10.91233247 Canaanite_ERS1790730_
10.95389885 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730_
11.13199892 54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp
11.17489597 R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
11.42348896 R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
11.77810681 R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.14235150 R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.27475865 R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.30186571 MA2205_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp
12.78321165 R115_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.90252301 I2683_Anatolia_EBA_4494_ybp
13.06936494 R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
13.38554444 R123_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial


Target: Rabbit_Hole_Mom
Distance: 1.1993% / 1.19925081 | ADC: 0.25x
34.2 R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
26.8 R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
14.0 Sidon_BA_ERS1790729_
13.0 R1550_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
5.4 R1543_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
3.6 R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
1.6 Khoesan_Hunter_South_Africa_2100BP.SG_2103_ybp
1.4 I3726_Tanzania_Luxmanda_3100BP_3079_ybp
Probably from the Crusaders ( ancient Romans )

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml

[Kaspias]

Add me in diagram, if you want

Gedrosia 3.49 Pct
Siberian 1.51 Pct
Northwest_African 0.87 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.69 Pct
North_European 42.01 Pct
South_Asian 0.19 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.37 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 21.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


If u can add me it would be great

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 40.57
2 Atlantic_Med 26.27
3 Caucasus 21.85
4 Southwest_Asian 5.66
5 Gedrosia 3.88
6 Southeast_Asian 0.63
7 Siberian 0.54
8 Sub_Saharan 0.32
9 East_Asian 0.29
10 Northwest_African 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 7.55
2 Hungarians (Behar) 9.17
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.44
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.78
5 German (Dodecad) 15.07
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 19.68
7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 19.8
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.93
9 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.14
10 French (Dodecad) 21.37
11 French (HGDP) 21.6
12 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 22.76
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 23.37
14 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 23.47
15 Polish (Dodecad) 23.52
16 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.59
17 English (Dodecad) 23.66
18 Greek (Dodecad) 23.67
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.81
20 Tuscan (HGDP) 24.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 0.99
2 82.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.08
3 63.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.2
4 59% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 41% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.21
5 65.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 34.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.33
6 72.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.37
7 72.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 27.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.42
8 77% Hungarians (Behar) + 23% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.44
9 77.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.53
10 53.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.58
11 59% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 41% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.58
12 73.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.66
13 77.2% Romanians (Behar) + 22.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.67
14 54% Tuscan (HGDP) + 46% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.88
15 59.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.89

https://i.ibb.co/CnhwnXp/pca.jpg

[Chris596]

So basically I'm mostly slavic, I guess? No wonder why my father looks so Russian.

Like you wouldn't believe I'm his son.

[Luke35]

So basically I'm mostly slavic, I guess? No wonder why my father looks so Russian.

Like you wouldn't believe I'm his son.

Significantly so, yes.

Target: Chris596
Distance: 4.6331% / 4.63313980
52.8 Early_Slav_average
47.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite

Mr.G
25.2% Early_Slav + 19.0% Early Romanian/Balkanite + 5.8% Early_Germanic = Total of 50%

Now lets extrapolate to 100% to view my Hungarian side:

50.4 Early_Slav
38.0 Early Romanian/Balkanite
11.6 Early_Germanic

Pretty much the same amount of Early_Slav as you.

[Luke35]

What's unsorted??

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Your components listed like this, before you click the oracle button:

Population
North_Atlantic 75.84 Pct
Baltic 10.88 Pct
West_Med 10.08 Pct
West_Asian 1.64 Pct
East_Med 1.70 Pct
Red_Sea .05 Pct
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
East_Asian 0.45 Pct
Siberian 0.56 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.20 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Then list them like this:

IrisSelene,75.84,10.88,10.08,1.64,.. etc

[Leto]

Add me in diagram, if you want

Gedrosia 3.49 Pct
Siberian 1.51 Pct
Northwest_African 0.87 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.69 Pct
North_European 42.01 Pct
South_Asian 0.19 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.37 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 21.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Dušan
3.15678634 Bosnian
3.27615628 R.Moldova_Centre+North
3.65243754 Croat
3.80314344 Serb
7.12872359 Montenegrin
8.66609485 Hungarians
9.26105286 Macedonian
9.68489546 Romanians
10.12723062 Pomak
11.82079524 Bulgarian

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.0298% / 2.02976147 | ADC: 0.5x
55.4 Croat
23.0 R.Moldova_Centre+North
11.0 Serb
10.6 Bulgarians

Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.4956% / 1.49562913 | ADC: 0.25x
78.6 Croat
20.4 Bulgarians
0.6 Rus_Tver
0.4 Nganassan

[Dušan]

https://i.ibb.co/CnhwnXp/pca.jpg

Thanks!

[Dušan]

Distance to: Dušan
3.15678634 Bosnian
3.27615628 R.Moldova_Centre+North
3.65243754 Croat
3.80314344 Serb
7.12872359 Montenegrin
8.66609485 Hungarians
9.26105286 Macedonian
9.68489546 Romanians
10.12723062 Pomak
11.82079524 Bulgarian

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.0298% / 2.02976147 | ADC: 0.5x
55.4 Croat
23.0 R.Moldova_Centre+North
11.0 Serb
10.6 Bulgarians

Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.4956% / 1.49562913 | ADC: 0.25x
78.6 Croat
20.4 Bulgarians
0.6 Rus_Tver
0.4 Nganassan

Add more results into Serbian average.
And add more kaykavian Croats into Croatian average. It is way southern currently.

[Chris596]

Thanks!

I plot relatively close to you and TheMaestro, Knez01 and Kökény as well.

[Dušan]

I plot relatively close to you and TheMaestro, Knez01 as well.

You are South Slav by autosomal genetics. :cool:

[Ion Basescul]

Significantly so, yes.

Target: Chris596
Distance: 4.6331% / 4.63313980
52.8 Early_Slav_average
47.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite

Mr.G
25.2% Early_Slav + 19.0% Early Romanian/Balkanite + 5.8% Early_Germanic = Total of 50%

Now lets extrapolate to 100% to view my Hungarian side:

50.4 Early_Slav
38.0 Early Romanian/Balkanite
11.6 Early_Germanic

Pretty much the same amount of Early_Slav as you.

I should probably mention, for those who didn't read the calculator thread, that Early_Romanian are Vlachs from Greece/N. Macedonia where I subtracted the Slavic part from them. Romanians won't score anywhere close to 100% Early_Romanian.



Target: Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
Distance: 2.0065% / 2.00650114
58.4 Early_Slav_average
37.4 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
4.2 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman


Target: Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
Distance: 1.6786% / 1.67862475
50.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
44.8 Early_Slav_average
5.2 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman


Target: Romanian_Transylvania
Distance: 2.9652% / 2.96522293
53.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
41.0 Early_Slav_average
4.2 Early_Germanic
1.6 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman


Target: Romanian_Oltenia
Distance: 2.0797% / 2.07971317
57.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
35.8 Early_Slav_average
4.2 Early_Germanic
2.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman


Target: Romanian_Muntenia
Distance: 4.9951% / 4.99512905
62.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
37.6 Early_Slav_average
0.4 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

[Leto]

Add more results into Serbian average.
And add more kaykavian Croats into Croatian average. It is way southern currently.
Nah, I won't add anything. It's okay. The Croatian and Bosnian averages are from an old Turkish spreadsheet and the Serbian and Montenegrin were provided by vbnetkhio.

[Dušan]

Nah, I won't add anything. It's okay. The Croatian and Bosnian averages are from an old Turkish spreadsheet and the Serbian and Montenegrin were provided by vbnetkhio.

Bosnian ok, but no way I am closer to Croatian than to Serbian average.
You know user ph2ter? His result is way more northern than that Croatian average, and he represents 35-40% of Croatian population.



I am sorry for off topic. :icon_ask:

[Ion Basescul]

Bosnian ok, but no way I am closer to Croatian than to Serbian average.
You know user ph2ter? His result is way more northern than that Croatian average, and he represents 35-40% of Croatian population.



I am sorry for off topic. :icon_ask:

He is more Northern than most Croats and suspects having Czech ancestry. I doubt 40% of Croats are mixed with Czechs.

[Dušan]

He is more Northern than most Croats and suspects having Czech ancestry. I doubt 40% of Croats are mixed with Czechs.

He tested his wife and lot other people. All of them got simmilar results.
Their results are average for NW Croats.

[Chris596]

Is it worth to pay another 19 $ on FTDNA to see another ancestry report?

[Kaspias]

Is it worth to pay another 19 $ on FTDNA to see another ancestry report?

No

[Leto]

Bosnian ok, but no way I am closer to Croatian than to Serbian average.
You know user ph2ter? His result is way more northern than that Croatian average, and he represents 35-40% of Croatian population.

So you agree that Croats are more North European than Serbs which can be translated as less swarthy? :swl

[Ion Basescul]

He tested his wife and lot other people. All of them got simmilar results.
Their results are average for NW Croats.

I haven't been following on this story, but I remember that this was the hypothesis some time ago.

[Ion Basescul]

So you agree that Croats are more North European than Serbs which can be translated as less swarthy? :swl

And more prone to skin cancer :cool:

[Chris596]

And more prone to skin cancer :cool:

Lol

[Luke35]

Is it worth to pay another 19 $ on FTDNA to see another ancestry report?

I did it, although I can't remember if I paid or it was a free upload, at the time. Here is my result, it's okay if you read the Middle East % as Southeast Europe:

https://i.imgur.com/C2qG7U8.png

The good news is that, just like MyHeritage, they have an update in the works..

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = Chris596; 6673575] Струва ли си да платите още 19 $ за FTDNA, за да видите още един доклад за потекло? [/ QUOTE]
No, it's only worth the DNA of the relatives

[Leto]

And more prone to skin cancer :cool:
Then the Blacks are the superior race.

[Dušan]

So you agree that Croats are more North European than Serbs which can be translated as less swarthy? :swl

It is well known fact that they are more northern than us, I dont have problem with that.
The problem is when I get Croat before Serbian, and ph2ter, as 100% ethnic Croat, dont get his nation as #1, because Croatian average is south shifted. And that is silly.

[Leto]

It is well known fact that they are more northern than us, I dont have problem with that.
The problem is when I get Croat before Serbian, and ph2ter, as 100% ethnic Croat, dont get his nation as #1, because Croatian average is south shifted. And that is silly.
Okay, I'll ask Vbnet to provide a new Croatian average.

[Ion Basescul]

Is it worth to pay another 19 $ on FTDNA to see another ancestry report?

Nah, that one is outdated. You will just get a mix of Southeast and East Euro.

[Ion Basescul]

Then the Blacks are the superior race.

They are from a physical point of view.

[Ion Basescul]

It is well known fact that they are more northern than us, I dont have problem with that.
The problem is when I get Croat before Serbian, and ph2ter, as 100% ethnic Croat, dont get his nation as #1, because Croatian average is south shifted. And that is silly.

It's hard to get the average as the first choice for everyone, in countries where there is a strong genetic gradient, like in Moldova, Croatia, Romania, Hungary, etc. If the average will be modelled after him, then some other Croats won't get it. To counter this downside, it is probably better to just use individual samples, instead of averages. Then everyone, except for a few significant outliers, will pull to their ethnicity.

[Chris596]

Another question: How is it possible that a lot of Serbians, Albanians, Bulgarians usually get around 45-60% Balkan on MyHeritage? I only know one Bosnian YouTuber who got more than me (100%) lol.

[Luke35]

Another question: How is it possible that a lot of Serbians, Albanians, Bulgarians usually get around 45-60% Balkan on MyHeritage? I only know one Bosnian YouTuber who got more than me (100%) lol.

Other users will have a better, more complete answer than me. But I will speculate that they get a chunk of more southern ancestry, that you don't get. I think the catagory is Greek and South Italian.

[CommonSense]

Another question: How is it possible that a lot of Serbians, Albanians, Bulgarians usually get around 45-60% Balkan on MyHeritage? I only know one Bosnian YouTuber who got more than me (100%) lol.

Albanians get very little Balkan, MyHeritage labels them as Greek & South Italian instead. As for Serbs, most of us will score 70-100%, but I've enountered individuals for whom the algorithm went sideways and instead of lumping their ancestry into Balkan, they divided it evenly into Greek, Balkan and East European.

[vbnetkhio]

Another question: How is it possible that a lot of Serbians, Albanians, Bulgarians usually get around 45-60% Balkan on MyHeritage? I only know one Bosnian YouTuber who got more than me (100%) lol.

because MyHeritage's algorithm sucks.

[Chris596]

Ohh okay, I had wrong informations about the Serbian results then. So my ancestral lineage is pretty much from the Balkan. Although I also had close DNA matches with a couple of Greeks as well.

[Kaspias]

Another question: How is it possible that a lot of Serbians, Albanians, Bulgarians usually get around 45-60% Balkan on MyHeritage? I only know one Bosnian YouTuber who got more than me (100%) lol.

I have 0% Balkan :D

[Chris596]

I have 0% Balkan :D

Wow so I really don't have any specific Southern-European in me? It seems that Greek and South-Italian populations are very distinguishable from the Balkan?

[Kamilla13]

I have 0% Balkan :D

And what do you get ?

[Kaspias]

And what do you get ?

https://www.myheritage.com/dna/ethnicity/intro/DSO3IK9OF1H7GS2AAKPK2L3K6GNKQJRME5NK8TIACP652ORKCT O50BRF71OMSUBAA5P46DQHCH2MSOBEATQ3GS37B596AC9MAD6L EPO

[Kamilla13]

https://www.myheritage.com/dna/ethnicity/intro/DSO3IK9OF1H7GS2AAKPK2L3K6GNKQJRME5NK8TIACP652ORKCT O50BRF71OMSUBAA5P46DQHCH2MSOBEATQ3GS37B596AC9MAD6L EPO

Interesting!

6 more ethnicities?

I'm jealous :wink

[Kamilla13]

@Kaspias I'm thinking about what your DNA Land results look like, probably very colourful:)

[Ion Basescul]

.
We can see your surname at the end of the video. Not sure if you are aware.

[Kaspias]

Interesting!

6 more ethnicities?

I'm jealous :wink

Full result:

https://i.ibb.co/6ybh6H0/result.png


@Kaspias I'm thinking about what your DNA Land results look like, probably very colourful:)

https://i.ibb.co/0GswF6K/dnaland.png

Eurogenes K13, so you can check accuracy of tests:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21
2 Baltic 20.37
3 North_Atlantic 15.55
4 West_Asian 14.91
5 West_Med 12.29
6 Siberian 7.57
7 Red_Sea 3.25
8 South_Asian 2.06
9 East_Asian 1.16
10 Amerindian 0.7
11 Sub-Saharan 0.61
12 Oceanian 0.53



We can see your surname at the end of the video. Not sure if you are aware.

Thank you Ion! It is not my surname, no worries.

[Kamilla13]

Woww!
I taught MH is the most boring Company as it gave me just 3 Ethnicities -75, 4 Balkan, 21 Greek and South Italian and 3.6 ME.

But I see your results now..

I literally had to google Tubalar :).

So, basically your results would explain my Mtdna lol!

Very interesting results.
Have you done Ethnogene test ? What do you think?

There I received the most mixed results , and a tiny trace of Romanian tatar and Gagauz and Gorani .

[altaic]

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 8.1574% / 8.15738557
65.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
29.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
5.2 Early_Slav_average

Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 4.8362% / 4.83621708
75.6 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
24.4 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

Is there an original thread for this calculator? I tried on my K13 result and I got the below result. Seems Ok but I have a high distances. What is the reason for that? Is it bcz I do not have European background genetically?

Target: Altaic
Distance: 2915.4461% / 29.15446127
90.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
9.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

[Jana]

I have 0% Balkan :D

Me too. On MyHeritage I score around 60% East European, 25% Greek/South Italian, rest is English, Scandinavian and Ashkenazi Jewish.

[Leto]

It is well known fact that they are more northern than us, I dont have problem with that.
The problem is when I get Croat before Serbian, and ph2ter, as 100% ethnic Croat, dont get his nation as #1, because Croatian average is south shifted. And that is silly.
I've checked that reference

Croat
4.59
0.41
0.4
0.31
27.14 Atlantic_Med
43.51 North_European
0.31
0.04
4.04
0.11
19.1
0.03

Not very Southern to me. You score 42% NE.

[Kaspias]

Woww!
I taught MH is the most boring Company as it gave me just 3 Ethnicities -75, 4 Balkan, 21 Greek and South Italian and 3.6 ME.

But I see your results now..

I literally had to google Tubalar :).

So, basically your results would explain my Mtdna lol!

Very interesting results.
Have you done Ethnogene test ? What do you think?

There I received the most mixed results , and a tiny trace of Romanian tatar and Gagauz and Gorani .

Haha! That's why I asked the possibility if your grandmother might have Bulgarian Turk root. My paternal ancestry(who is ethnic Turk) comes from Provadia and Kardzhali(3/4) and Komotini(1/4). My mother is Pomak and supposedly doesn't carry East Eurasian.

I haven't done it, actually haven't heard much about it. Can you post your results?

[Chris596]

Me too. On MyHeritage I score around 60% East European, 25% Greek/South Italian, rest is English, Scandinavian and Ashkenazi Jewish.

Do you have any idea where the Scandinavian and/or Jewish came from? These are the two other ethnicities that I score particularly on every ancestry calculator.

[Dean K]

Do you have any idea where the Scandinavian and/or Jewish came from? These are the two other ethnicities that I score particularly on every ancestry calculator.

Bro I saw some myheritage youtube clips of Hungarian almost everyone of them score Scandinavian. And Jewish score thats not a question the jews live in hungary almost 1200 years some of them convert to Christianity and some of them just had a good time you know lol (:

[Chris596]

Bro I saw some myheritage youtube clips of Hungarian almost everyone of them score Scandinavian. And Jewish score thats not a question the jews live in hungary almost 1200 years some of them convert to Christianity and some of them just had a good time you know lol (:

Alright, this makes sense in the grand scheme of things, I guess :) Probably some older admixtures since both of them are pretty low.

[Dean K]

Yeah this kind of precantage shows it around 400-500 years ago...

[Kamilla13]

Haha! That's why I asked the possibility if your grandmother might have Bulgarian Turk root. My paternal ancestry(who is ethnic Turk) comes from Provadia and Kardzhali(3/4) and Komotini(1/4). My mother is Pomak and supposedly doesn't carry East Eurasian.

I haven't done it, actually haven't heard much about it. Can you post your results?

ll Region Ethnicity Sub-Regional Population Percentage
Eastern Europe Bulgarian Dobritch 47.5%
Eastern Europe Romanian
Walachia, Transylvania,
Moldavia
23.6%
Eastern Europe Ukrainian Lviv, Chernihiv, Kirovohrad 9.8%
Central Europe Hungarian
Western Transdanubia,
Central Transdanubia
3.7%
Southern Europe Serbian Northern 1.9%
Southern Europe Bosniak Bosnia 1.0%
Southern Europe Greek Epirus, Central Greece 2.7%
Central Europe Slovak Trencin, Nitra 1.0%
Middle East Turkish Western Turkey, Adana 2.5%
Southern Europe Croatian Varazdin, Osijek-Baranja 2.0%
Southern Europe Italian (North) Trentino 1.0%
Central Europe Ashkenazi Jewish Central and Southern Europe 2.3%
Eastern Europe Romanian Tatar Romania (Constanta) 1.0%
The table represents your results per region. The matching ethnicity is given and the sub-region
is specified where applicable. For many ethnic groups dispersed in several countries, the
sub-region is given as the name of the country since this represents the localized population
and not the entire overall ethnic group. For a general example, the wider Mande ethnicity
inhabits several West African countries, hence the country would be given under the
'sub-region' heading. Additionally, the sub-region depicts the sub-regional population of the
ethnicity. An example would be "English" as the ethnicity and "Northeast" and “Devon” as the
sub-regional populations, indicating a population of English from the Northeastern portion of
their region and another match to the English population in Devon. Please note that due to the
nature of population migration and gene flow over time, these sub-regional matches are
speculative. We use data sets which correlate approximately to these regional populations, but
it is important to note that there are significant degrees of overlap between populations and
hence these should only be viewed as estimates.

Might be a generic thing but it gave me various stuff, so to this date I consider it the most accurate :thumb001:.

I wanted to test my parents, but they stopped it, they don't answer to ppl's emails anymore.

I haven't heard of any Turkish ancestry on my mather's side , and as I said she scores WA 2.5 or something on 23andme.
I score around 3.
But my father scores Anatolian and overall WA around 9 %.
He's E-V13.
I know my father's family emigrated from the Turkish border.
My mum's side is a mystery- Probably Romanian Tatar 1% that logically leads to Crimean Tatars...

[17571imre]

Target: Hungarian
Distance: 1.2156% / 1.21560750

53.0 Early_Slav_average
23.8 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
21.2 Early_Germanic
2.0 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

Target: Hungarian_East
Distance: 1.4338% / 1.43378457

60.6 Early_Slav_average
24.6 Early_Germanic
14.8 Early_Romanian/Balkanite



Target: Hungarian_Transdanubia
Distance: 2.1215% / 2.12150934

39.2 Early_Slav_average
38.2 Early_Germanic
22.6 Early_Romanian/Balkanite

Target: Csango_Gymes
Distance: 2.8830% / 2.88304230

52.2 Early_Slav_average
32.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
9.6 Early_Germanic
6.2 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

Target: Szekely_Hungarian
Distance: 1.3951% / 1.39514881

61.6 Early_Slav_average
31.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
6.0 Early_Germanic
1.2 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

some Hungarian averages from K13

[Jana]

Do you have any idea where the Scandinavian and/or Jewish came from? These are the two other ethnicities that I score particularly on every ancestry calculator.

In my case, Scandinavian and also English should be proxy for German ancestry, which I have.
Not sure for Jewish. I score it only on Myheritage (5-6%). I don't get it anywhere else.

My mother taught her German side was mixed with Jews, but I can't find any proof for that.

For you, Scandinavian may be some conqueror ancestry. Hungarian conquerors has Scandinavian admixture from Germanic tribes.
Jewish, well, many Jews lived in eastern Europe. Do you have full Jewish matches? All Jews are closely related people, so you should have many if you have genuine Jewish ancestry.

[Ion Basescul]

Is there an original thread for this calculator? I tried on my K13 result and I got the below result. Seems Ok but I have a high distances. What is the reason for that? Is it bcz I do not have European background genetically?

Target: Altaic
Distance: 2915.4461% / 29.15446127
90.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
9.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316950-Proto-Romanian-K2

[altaic]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316950-Proto-Romanian-K2

thanks. any opinion about the high distances?

[Ion Basescul]

thanks. any opinion about the high distances?

Yes, I think you should mentally divide by 100 in Vahaduo, when working with K13 coordinates.
You will probably get a distance of 29 instead on Lukasz's G25.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

[Dunai]

I wanted to check out also this calculator that so many of you posted, and here it is, even if technically I'm only around little bit more than 10% German and rest is Alföld Hungarian:

Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.4826% / 1.48264154
42.8 Early_Slav_average
34.4 Early_Germanic
17.8 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
5.0 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman

[Daos777]

I've checked that reference

Croat
4.59
0.41
0.4
0.31
27.14 Atlantic_Med
43.51 North_European
0.31
0.04
4.04
0.11
19.1
0.03

Not very Southern to me. You score 42% NE.

How much NE do you score?


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[Leto]

How much NE do you score?

A bit less than I logically should (my mostly Belorussian father is almost 60%). All of us were tested with FTDNA in the same year, so no raw data difference.
Most Russians are 55-60%, the average is 57-58%. Ukrainians can be slightly lower (SE Euro influence) while Belorussians are often a little over 60% (elevated Baltic influence)

56.31% North_European
18.91% Atlantic_Med
10.79% Caucasus
5.02% Gedrosia
4.61% Siberian
3.02% Southwest_Asian
0.61% East_Asian
0.44% South_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian

Mother
56.88% North_European
16.99% Atlantic_Med
9.24% Caucasus
6.52% Siberian
4.96% Gedrosia
3.36% Southwest_Asian
1.51% East_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian
0.26% South_Asian

Father
59.53% North_European
20.97% Atlantic_Med
11.13% Caucasus
5.06% Gedrosia
1.64% Siberian
0.76% South_Asian
0.47% Southeast_Asian
0.42% Southwest_Asian

[Lucas]

Why this thread started yesterday is so long? Someone can tell me in short? I don't want to read 35 pages:)

[Luke35]

Why this thread started yesterday is so long? Someone can tell me in short? I don't want to read 35 pages:)

NO. You have to read it all Lukasz.

[Leto]

Why this thread started yesterday is so long? Someone can tell me in short? I don't want to read 35 pages:)
Nothing particularly interesting. A lot of off-topic ramblings.

[Daos777]

A bit less than I logically should (my mostly Belorussian father is almost 60%). All of us were tested with FTDNA in the same year, so no raw data difference.
Most Russians are 55-60%, the average is 57-58%. Ukrainians can be slightly lower (SE Euro influence) while Belorussians are often a little over 60% (elevated Baltic influence)

56.31% North_European
18.91% Atlantic_Med
10.79% Caucasus
5.02% Gedrosia
4.61% Siberian
3.02% Southwest_Asian
0.61% East_Asian
0.44% South_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian

Mother
56.88% North_European
16.99% Atlantic_Med
9.24% Caucasus
6.52% Siberian
4.96% Gedrosia
3.36% Southwest_Asian
1.51% East_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian
0.26% South_Asian

Father
59.53% North_European
20.97% Atlantic_Med
11.13% Caucasus
5.06% Gedrosia
1.64% Siberian
0.76% South_Asian
0.47% Southeast_Asian
0.42% Southwest_Asian

Interesting. I score 6 below the Russian average. Thought I was at least 10 lower than that. You’re fully Northern Slav right?

What is used for Caucasus in this calc?


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[Leto]

Interesting. I score 6 below the Russian average. Thought I was at least 10 lower than that. You’re fully Northern Slav right?

What is used for Caucasus in this calc?

Yes, I am full, no known ancestry besides Russia and Belarus (including Belarus Polish), though my maternal grandparents were from Kirov oblast, hence the stronger Uralic influence. I seem to have inherited more from her than from father.

I think Georgians and Abkhazians score the highest percentage of Caucasus (close to 60 percent).

[Chris596]

In my case, Scandinavian and also English should be proxy for German ancestry, which I have.
Not sure for Jewish. I score it only on Myheritage (5-6%). I don't get it anywhere else.

My mother taught her German side was mixed with Jews, but I can't find any proof for that.

For you, Scandinavian may be some conqueror ancestry. Hungarian conquerors has Scandinavian admixture from Germanic tribes.
Jewish, well, many Jews lived in eastern Europe. Do you have full Jewish matches? All Jews are closely related people, so you should have many if you have genuine Jewish ancestry.

Hmm, I have to agree with you. My Scandinavian mixture could not come from anywhere else. Regarding the Jewish part, I have quite a few matches with Jewish surnames (I suppose). But waaay more south slavic matches due to my strong slavic part.

[Chris596]

A bit less than I logically should (my mostly Belorussian father is almost 60%). All of us were tested with FTDNA in the same year, so no raw data difference.
Most Russians are 55-60%, the average is 57-58%. Ukrainians can be slightly lower (SE Euro influence) while Belorussians are often a little over 60% (elevated Baltic influence)

56.31% North_European
18.91% Atlantic_Med
10.79% Caucasus
5.02% Gedrosia
4.61% Siberian
3.02% Southwest_Asian
0.61% East_Asian
0.44% South_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian

Mother
56.88% North_European
16.99% Atlantic_Med
9.24% Caucasus
6.52% Siberian
4.96% Gedrosia
3.36% Southwest_Asian
1.51% East_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian
0.26% South_Asian

Father
59.53% North_European
20.97% Atlantic_Med
11.13% Caucasus
5.06% Gedrosia
1.64% Siberian
0.76% South_Asian
0.47% Southeast_Asian
0.42% Southwest_Asian

Interesting! Even you have a lot more Siberian admixture than I do. But it's really interesting, that on most calculators I score usually between 1-2 % proper East Asian , or Southeast Asian. It was you or Kaspias (I can't remember it), who pointed out that on a calculator I score 3% East-Asian. I don't know if it's just noise or some true admixture.

[Leto]

Interesting! Even you have a lot more Siberian admixture than I do. But it's really interesting, that on most calculators I score usually between 1-2 % proper East Asian , or Southeast Asian. It was you or Kaspias (I can't remember it), who pointed out that on a calculator I score 3% East-Asian. I don't know if it's just noise or some true admixture.
Yes, I score ca. 6% on average. Though it's not noticeable in anyone in my family. I'll send you my photo.

[Turul Karom]

Congratulations on your results, Chris596!


Old magyars were mix of turkics and germanics (rougly 50-50%), the modern genetic results show that.

Literally the best take I've ever heard from you yet.

https://i.imgur.com/ZfQ85e9.jpg

[Chris596]

Congratulations on your results, Chris596!



Literally the best take I've ever heard from you yet.

https://i.imgur.com/ZfQ85e9.jpg

Thank you! :) Please read my private message when you have time.

[TheMaestro]

Ohh okay, I had wrong informations about the Serbian results then. So my ancestral lineage is pretty much from the Balkan. Although I also had close DNA matches with a couple of Greeks as well.

I had 88% Balkans XD

[Blondie]

Literally the best take I've ever heard from you yet.

Möge der szittya mit Dir sein :horn:

[Turul Karom]

Möge der szittya mit Dir sein :horn:

Egészségünkre...and I don't even drink.

https://i.imgur.com/G6pPozE.jpg

[Chris596]

I had 88% Balkans XD

Wow. Balkan is in my blood xd

[Turul Karom]

Based on Dodecad K12b

https://i.ibb.co/DV1sq7K/Chris-Single.jpg

This is looking great!

Thus far, this seems to be a very good reference for the Hungarians.

There are also more sources to be graphed here.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?321149-HUNGARIANS!-Post-updated-Dodecad-K12b-for-plotting!

[Turul Karom]

Thank you! :) Please read my private message when you have time.

Not a problem; it is read.

I found your results very interesting, but I would highly suggest trusting how you plot on a graph along with the rest of us as well as GEDmatch (THE BEST calculator resources) for your ethnic and trace population references rather than what the company provides you.

For example, I score Native American (I have zero Native American ancestors), Siberian (I am not Siberian), and Anatolian Turkish (again, no Anatolian Turkish ancestry) from the company tests.

I score Amerindian on GEDmatch too, but this is simply the results of the mixing in Siberia of the proto-Magyars.

Your PuntDNAL K13 is very interesting and clearly explains the questions about your phonotype. Your Y-DNA was found in Hungarian graves. We will need to see if they will every post more about downstreams and as more graves are discovered, we will compare them as well with our own DNA results.

It is obvious that you could adopt the "Turkic" tag without question.

I would very, very much like to see your results for the Turkic K11 tests.

Compare your K13 results with my own below. I have highlighted areas of interest for us regarding your results. I look forward to your thoughts.

PuntDNAL K13

Chris

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 40.42
2 SW_Europe 33.96
3 West_Asia 15.55
4 SW_Asia 5.57
5 NE_Asia 1.84
6 South_Africa 1.34
7 SE_Asia 1.12
8 Oceania 0.18
9 East_Africa 0.03

Turul Karom

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 46.03
2 SW_Europe 32.24
3 West_Asia 11.06
4 SW_Asia 5.41
5 NE_Asia 1.62
6 East_Africa 1.34
7 Siberia 0.88
8 South_Asia 0.73
9 Americas 0.58
10 SE_Asia 0.12

Chris

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% English + 20.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.53
2 77.7% English + 22.3% Turkish @ 2.55
3 80.7% English + 19.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 2.61
4 75.3% Orcadian + 24.7% Turkish @ 2.64
5 76.9% Orcadian + 23.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.67
6 74.9% Irish + 25.1% Turkish @ 2.68
7 77.1% English + 22.9% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.69
8 76.5% Irish + 23.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.71
9 77.8% Belgian + 22.2% Kumyk @ 2.73
10 76.5% Scottish + 23.5% Turkish @ 2.79
11 78.1% Scottish + 21.9% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.84
12 88.9% Croatian + 11.1% Nogay @ 2.84
13 75.8% Utahn_European + 24.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.85
14 74.2% Utahn_European + 25.8% Turkish @ 2.88
15 96.6% Bosnian + 3.4% Lahu @ 2.89
16 81% Belgian + 19% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.89
17 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Miaozu @ 2.89
18 96.6% Bosnian + 3.4% Vietnamese @ 2.9
19 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Dai @ 2.9
20 96.9% Bosnian + 3.1% She @ 2.92

Turul Karom

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.4% Slovene + 2.6% Naxi @ 1.67
2 97.5% Slovene + 2.5% Han_North_China @ 1.67
3 97.6% Slovene + 2.4% Korean @ 1.67
4 97.6% Slovene + 2.4% Japanese @ 1.67
5 97.4% Slovene + 2.6% Xibo @ 1.7
6 97.6% Slovene + 2.4% Han_South_China @ 1.74
7 97.6% Slovene + 2.4% She @ 1.76
8 97.5% Slovene + 2.5% Miaozu @ 1.76
9 97.4% Slovene + 2.6% Daur @ 1.77
10 97.3% Slovene + 2.7% Burmese @ 1.79
11 97.5% Slovene + 2.5% Oroqen @ 1.82
12 97.5% Slovene + 2.5% Lahu @ 1.83
13 97.6% Slovene + 2.4% Vietnamese @ 1.91
14 97.3% Slovene + 2.7% Mongolian @ 1.94
15 97.7% Slovene + 2.3% Dai @ 1.96
16 97.4% Slovene + 2.6% Thai @ 1.98
17 97.2% Slovene + 2.8% Altaian @ 2.06
18 97.6% Slovene + 2.4% Tuvinian @ 2.07
19 97.7% Slovene + 2.3% Cambodian @ 2.12
20 86.2% Utahn_European + 13.8% Nogay @ 2.16

[Chris596]

Not a problem; it is read.

I found your results very interesting, but I would highly suggest trusting how you plot on a graph along with the rest of us as well as GEDmatch (THE BEST calculator resources) for your ethnic and trace population references rather than what the company provides you.

For example, I score Native American (I have zero Native American ancestors), Siberian (I am not Siberian), and Anatolian Turkish (again, no Anatolian Turkish ancestry) from the company tests.

I score Amerindian on GEDmatch too, but this is simply the results of the mixing in Siberia of the proto-Magyars.

Your PuntDNAL K13 is very interesting and clearly explains the questions about your phonotype. Your Y-DNA was found in Hungarian graves. We will need to see if they will every post more about downstreams and as more graves are discovered, we will compare them as well with our own DNA results.

It is obvious that you could adopt the "Turkic" tag without question.

I would very, very much like to see your results for the Turkic K11 tests.

Compare your K13 results with my own below. I have highlighted areas of interest for us regarding your results. I look forward to your thoughts.


Thank you my friend. Do you think the K36 results are close to reality? Another user pointed out that, despite not getting much Siberian, I score around 3% proper East Asian. And I also score more than 1% Southeast Asian in almost every test. That could explain something. I'll try to ask someone to try the Turkic K11 test for me (I cannot find it).

And it's also weird that it's not shown on Myheritage, even in the additional regions. Not even 0.1% :confused:

[Ion Basescul]

A bit less than I logically should (my mostly Belorussian father is almost 60%). All of us were tested with FTDNA in the same year, so no raw data difference.
Most Russians are 55-60%, the average is 57-58%. Ukrainians can be slightly lower (SE Euro influence) while Belorussians are often a little over 60% (elevated Baltic influence)

56.31% North_European
18.91% Atlantic_Med
10.79% Caucasus
5.02% Gedrosia
4.61% Siberian
3.02% Southwest_Asian
0.61% East_Asian
0.44% South_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian

Mother
56.88% North_European
16.99% Atlantic_Med
9.24% Caucasus
6.52% Siberian
4.96% Gedrosia
3.36% Southwest_Asian
1.51% East_Asian
0.28% Southeast_Asian
0.26% South_Asian

Father
59.53% North_European
20.97% Atlantic_Med
11.13% Caucasus
5.06% Gedrosia
1.64% Siberian
0.76% South_Asian
0.47% Southeast_Asian
0.42% Southwest_Asian

Logically, everyone receives only half of each parent's DNA, and those segments are also cut randomly. Therefore, it's not surprising that you are not a perfect average. Most people are like this, including me and most of the results that I've seen.

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = Chris596; 6675410] Благодаря ти приятелю. Смятате ли, че резултатите от K36 са близки до реалността? Друг потребител посочи, че въпреки че не получавам много сибирци, отбелязвам около 3% правилна източноазиатска . И също така оценявам повече от 1% в Югоизточна Азия в почти всеки тест. Това би могло да обясни нещо. Ще се опитам да помоля някой да опита теста на Тюркски K11 за мен (не мога да го намеря).

И също е странно, че не се показва в Myheritage, дори в допълнителните региони. Дори не 0.1% :confused:[/ ЦИТОВЕ]


It's here https://www.yourdnaportal.com/yourgeneticancestry

[Chris596]

HUGE Update!

I contacted one of my Hungarian matches on Myheritage. Turns out I'm really related to him. My great grandma was the sister of his great grandfather. He also sent me a lot of birth certificates and marriage contracts, I'm related to many people from there. It goes back all the way to 1822. However, I find it quite difficult to read it.

I found names like: Vasilovic, Barovaya, Zelenka, and Zikovic (I suppose it was Džiković in its original form)

Mistery solved! :)

It also says that most of them were farmers. Some with Hungarian names were smallholders.

[Chris596]

Also, really interesting that this certain relative of mine got 3,8% Finnish and 2,5% Central-Asian results on Myheritage. He also got some Western-European (because he has German and Dutch ancestors as well, who came to Hungary from the Teutonic Order!). Really, really interesting!

[Leto]

Also, really interesting that this certain relative of mine got 3,8% Finnish and 2,5% Central-Asian results on Myheritage. He also got some Western-European (because he has German and Dutch ancestors as well, who came to Hungary from the Teutonic Order!). Really, really interesting!
Is he not on Gedmatch? I find it strange that people on MyHeritage who are interested in genealogy often seem to be unaware of Gedmatch.

[Chris596]

Is he not on Gedmatch? I find it strange that people on MyHeritage who are interested in genealogy often seem to be unaware of Gedmatch.

Unfortunately no, I don't think he knows about these things. But he has a lot of information about our family tree and general family history, ancestors, more than anyone in my family! But now I know that I had true South Slavic ancestors in my family. He is my first match on Myheritage, I can't find him anywhere else.

[Chris596]

Leto

Barovaya isn't originally a Russian/Belarusian name? On Myheritage, one of my top matches is also a Russian (Санкт-Петербург, Россия), we share 0,6% of our DNA.

[Leto]

Leto

Barovaya isn't originally a Russian/Belarusian name? On Myheritage, one of my top matches is also a Russian (Санкт-Петербург, Россия), we share 0,6% of our DNA.
Sounds rather Ukrainian to me. But of course a lot of people with Ukrainian names and roots live in Russia.

By the way, post your strongest Russian match from Gedmatch. At least Eu K13 and Dodecad components :)

[Chris596]

You mean like this?

Eurogenes K13 Admixture Proportions

Pavel S.

Population
North_Atlantic 19.03 Pct
Baltic 46.79 Pct
West_Med 12.92 Pct
West_Asian 7.38 Pct
East_Med 5.99 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 3.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.80 Pct
Oceanian 0.32 Pct
Northeast_African 0.41 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.89 Pct

Chris J.

Population
North_Atlantic 24.09 Pct
Baltic 30.12 Pct
West_Med 16.39 Pct
West_Asian 9.84 Pct
East_Med 17.62 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.64 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

Dodecad V3 Admixture Proportions

Pavel S.


Population
East_European 33.36 Pct
West_European 37.85 Pct
Mediterranean 13.85 Pct
Neo_African 0.26 Pct
West_Asian 8.65 Pct
South_Asian 1.64 Pct
Northeast_Asian 3.41 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.41 Pct
Northwest_African 0.59 Pct
Palaeo_African -

Chris J.

Population
East_European 21.35 Pct
West_European 30.16 Pct
Mediterranean 28.10 Pct
Neo_African 0.25 Pct
West_Asian 15.68 Pct
South_Asian -
Northeast_Asian 0.05 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.22 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.14 Pct
Northwest_African -
Palaeo_African -

[Leto]

No, I didn't want to compare him with you. By the way, I use Dodecad K12b, not V3.
Thanks anyway ;)

His North Atlantic is very low, strange. The Russian average is like 24-25%. And the West Med is quite high, almost 13%.

[Chris596]

My best fit on Vahaduo:

Target: Chris596
Distance: 2.7587% / 2.75868251 | ADC: 0.25x
61.6 Serb_Serbia_South&East
35.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
3.4 Ukrainian_Belgorod

I think it speaks for itself. Thanks again Mr.G for sending me the results.

[Ion Basescul]

Leto

Barovaya isn't originally a Russian/Belarusian name? On Myheritage, one of my top matches is also a Russian (Санкт-Петербург, Россия), we share 0,6% of our DNA.

https://forebears.io/surnames/barovoy

[Leto]

I think it should be spelled Borovoy (Боровой). That's an unstressed vowel in Russian which is pronounced more like "ah" than "oh".

[Turul Karom]

My best fit on Vahaduo:

I think it speaks for itself. Thanks again Mr.G for sending me the results.

Chris,

to address the K11 calculator for you, you can find it online here:

https://www.yourdnaportal.com/yourgeneticancestry

You can upload DNA and run it there rather than download the files and run the calculator yourself. I would love to compare results.

[Dr_Maul]

Chris,

to address the K11 calculator for you, you can find it online here:

https://www.yourdnaportal.com/yourgeneticancestry

You can upload DNA and run it there rather than download the files and run the calculator yourself. I would love to compare results.

Is the Turkic K11 useful for someone like me? I can never get an actual figure for what I have (Eurogenes gives me >1% Siberian, PuntDNAL gives me like 3%) and I have a couple percent Central Asian on 23andMe as well

[Turul Karom]

Is the Turkic K11 useful for someone like me? I can never get an actual figure for what I have (Eurogenes gives me >1% Siberian, PuntDNAL gives me like 3%) and I have a couple percent Central Asian on 23andMe as well

Yes, it is. I have seen Persian results on Anthrogencia of a compiled K11 Turkic calculator score of members. I don't see how you might not have Turkic %, given the region is very close to Turkic traffic through the ages.

[Dr_Maul]

Yes, it is. I have seen Persian results on Anthrogencia of a compiled K11 Turkic calculator score of members. I don't see how you might not have Turkic %, given the region is very close to Turkic traffic through the ages.

I got about 4% Total (2.55 Turkic, the rest Northeast Asian) so I'd say its fairly accurate. Not sure if its over reporting or not, just considering all of my other tests, but cool nonetheless

[Kyp]

Is the Turkic K11 useful for someone like me? I can never get an actual figure for what I have (Eurogenes gives me >1% Siberian, PuntDNAL gives me like 3%) and I have a couple percent Central Asian on 23andMe as well

Send me your dodecadk12b coordinates, i'll test how much Turkic % you have with a model I created (for Iranians)

[Dr_Maul]

Send me your dodecadk12b coordinates, i'll test how much Turkic % you have with a model I created (for Iranians)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.41
2 Gedrosia 27.49
3 Southwest_Asian 13.75
4 Atlantic_Med 8.12
5 South_Asian 5.04
6 North_European 4.5
7 Northwest_African 3.36
8 Siberian 1.68
9 East_African 0.64

[Dr_Maul]

Send me your dodecadk12b coordinates, i'll test how much Turkic % you have with a model I created (for Iranians)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.41
2 Gedrosia 27.49
3 Southwest_Asian 13.75
4 Atlantic_Med 8.12
5 South_Asian 5.04
6 North_European 4.5
7 Northwest_African 3.36
8 Siberian 1.68
9 East_African 0.64

[Turul Karom]

I got about 4% Total (2.55 Turkic, the rest Northeast Asian) so I'd say its fairly accurate. Not sure if its over reporting or not, just considering all of my other tests, but cool nonetheless

Kyrgyzs and Uyghurs are representative of 100% Turkic in the calculator, just so you know who you are comparing against.

[Kyp]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.41
2 Gedrosia 27.49
3 Southwest_Asian 13.75
4 Atlantic_Med 8.12
5 South_Asian 5.04
6 North_European 4.5
7 Northwest_African 3.36
8 Siberian 1.68
9 East_African 0.64


Target: Dr_Maul
3.2 Turkic




Ottoman/Safavid era:

Target: Dr_Maul
5.4 Torkoman

x0.25
78.6 Iranian
8.4 Levantine
7.8 Torkoman
3.8 Indian
1.4 Arab

[Impaler]

Target: Dr_Maul
74.8 Iranian
14.8 Levantine
5.0 Indian
3.2 Turkic
2.0 Celtic
0.2 Arab



Ottoman/Safavid era:

Target: Dr_Maul
78.0 Iranian
5.4 Torkoman
4.8 Levantine
4.6 Indian
4.0 Arab
3.2 Celtic

What calculator is that? :)

[Kyp]

What calculator is that? :)

Just a model I made for fun

[Luke35]

My best fit on Vahaduo:

Target: Chris596
Distance: 2.7587% / 2.75868251 | ADC: 0.25x
61.6 Serb_Serbia_South&East
35.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
3.4 Ukrainian_Belgorod

I think it speaks for itself. Thanks again Mr.G for sending me the results.

In light of the fact that the great majority of surnames in your family tree are Magyar, what your results say to me is that not all Hungarians have Germanic admixture.

And that there is a decent gradient in Hungarians, with some who can be modeled as West Slavic/Germanic and others who are more heavily Balkanic, like you - and particularily, as we know, the Szekelers.

[Ion Basescul]

My best fit on Vahaduo:

Target: Chris596
Distance: 2.7587% / 2.75868251 | ADC: 0.25x
61.6 Serb_Serbia_South&East
35.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
3.4 Ukrainian_Belgorod

I think it speaks for itself. Thanks again Mr.G for sending me the results.

I wouldn't take them too seriously. It just shows that your Hungarian mixture is more similar to the current Serb rather than Hungarian average reference.

[Chris596]

Today I contacted my other closest match on Myheritage, who is possibly a Russian, but I'm not so sure. We share 43.3 cM of DNA (0.7%)

Forebears tells me this about his family name:

Approximately 1,132 people bear this surname

MOST PREVALENT IN:
Russia
HIGHEST DENSITY IN:
Russia

Place: Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan

[Impaler]

Can you post your MDLP K33 from yourDNAportal? Especially Central Asian + Turkic + Paleo Siberian + Siberian + East Asian.

[Chris596]

Can you post your MDLP K33 from yourDNAportal? Especially Central Asian + Turkic + Paleo Siberian + Siberian + East Asian.

I'm going to post it today if everything goes well.

Edit: I'm doing it right now, should I make another thread about it?

[Impaler]

I'm going to post it today if everything goes well.

Edit: I'm doing it right now, should I make another thread about it?

You don't have to open a thread for every calculator. You can post it here. :)

[Chris596]

You don't have to open a thread for every calculator. You can post it here. :)

Well, guess what, all 0's lol

I got 1.96% Finno Ugric thou... But I bet most Hungarians also get much more than this.

And what a surprise :rolleyes: my largest percentage is Balkan and East European: 32.98% in total.

[Impaler]

Well, guess what, all 0's lol

I got 1.96% Finno Ugric thou... But I bet most Hungarians also get much more than this.

And what a surprise :rolleyes: my largest percentage is Balkan and East European: 32.98% in total.

That is very interesting. :) You are very close to Serbs, that's for sure.

I score here:
Central Asian 3.11%
Paleo Siberian 0.44%
Southeast Asian 0.05%
Turkic 2.14%
=5.74%

[Ion Basescul]

That is very interesting. :) You are very close to Serbs, that's for sure.

I score here:
Central Asian 3.11%
Paleo Siberian 0.44%
Southeast Asian 0.05%
Turkic 2.14%
=5.74%

Central Asian could also mean a mix like the Kazakhs, who are only half East Asian. We don't know what kind of Central Asian was used here.

[Impaler]

Central Asian could also mean a mix like the Kazakhs, who are only half East Asian. We don't know what kind of Central Asian was used here.

It seems that it's Iranic or something. Check this out:


Russian, southern:

42.95% Easteuropean
40.02% Westeuropean
6.13% Finnougric
6.13% Baltic
1.28% Southeuropean
1.28% Balkan
1.15% Centraleuropean
0.53% Westasian
0.11% Caucasian
0.11% Neareast
0.11% Polinesian
0.10% Australian
0.05% Turkic
0.02% British
0.01% Papuan


Kurd from Iran:


0.00% African_archaic
0.00% Altaic
0.00% Amerindian
0.00% Australian
0.00% Austroasiatic
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Balkan
0.00% Baltic
0.00% British
15.28% Caucasian
21.84% Centralasian
0.00% Centraleuropean
0.00% Dravidian
0.00% Eastasian
0.00% Easteuropean
0.00% Finnougric
0.52% Indian
19.10% Neareast
0.01% Northafrican
0.00% Paleosiberian
0.00% Papuan
0.00% Polinesian
0.00% Samoedic
0.00% Scandinavian
0.00% Siberian
0.00% Sinotibetan
0.00% Southeastasian
7.41% Southeuropean
0.00% Sunsaharian
0.00% Turkic
0.00% Westafrican
35.71% Westasian
0.12% Westeuropean

[Chris596]

Update

I got an answer from that Russian person (actually from his daughter, he doesn't speak English). She said we might be really related, because they know very little about their family history. She also told me that they have roots from Kazakhstan as well. This is getting more and more complicated.

[Leto]

Update

I got an answer from that Russian person (actually from his daughter, he doesn't speak English). She said we might be really related, because they know very little about their family history. She also told me that they have roots from Kazakhstan as well. This is getting more and more complicated.
Is he a full Russian? Where in Russia are they from? Please ask her about Gedmatch too.

[Chris596]

Is he a full Russian? Where in Russia are they from? Please ask her about Gedmatch too.

I asked many other things but she hasn't sent me an answer yet.

[altaic]

It seems that it's Iranic or something. Check this out:

I have 12% Central Asian. That is not a Turkic component (maybe very minor Turkmen). As you said, most likely it is Iranic.
I guess Turkish people will have that Central Asian component between 5-15%.

[Yaglakar]

Kyrgyzs and Uyghurs are representative of 100% Turkic in the calculator, just so you know who you are comparing against.

I get only 20%.

SE_Asian 3.19%
Turkic 23.09%
Mongol 19.06%
NE_Asian 10.20%

[Chris596]

I get only 20%.

SE_Asian 3.19%
Turkic 23.09%
Mongol 19.06%
NE_Asian 10.20%

You still get more than 5 times than me. I don't think even Uyğurs are 100% Turkic, because of hundreds of years of mixing, and your results also show that.

[Chris596]

UPDATE: After some additional research, my closest Hungarian relative from MyHeritage found a birth certificate even from 1815. Even the person who I thought was fully Hungarian, it turns out that his mother was a Rusyn (Русины), who was Greek Catholic. And his father was a Reformed Hungarian and thus he got his surname after his father. So I have distant Rusyn ancestors too on my maternal line. I'm so happy that I find out so many things about my ancestors, even more than 200 years later. And I bet we can go even further!

Edit: I wrote ascendants instead of ancestors... yeah, I'm not tired. Btw, the other Russian person didn't reply to me since then. Also, could it be that I match with some Russians because of my tiny Rusyn ancestry, or 200 years is too much and this is not an explanation to it?

[Chris596]

Uhhhhmmm. My Y-DNA haplogroup is now also different using the 23andme V3 version

[Kaspias]

Uhhhhmmm. My Y-DNA haplogroup is now also different using the 23andme V3 version

Screenshot?

[Chris596]

Screenshot?

https://i.imgur.com/PJT90e6.png

Now tell me what I should believe in :cool:

I also cut out everything because it's useless information on the picture..

[Kaspias]

https://i.imgur.com/PJT90e6.png

Now tell me what I should believe in :cool:

I also cut out everything because it's useless information on the picture..

Nah, this is useless. You are E-V13 :D

[Chris596]

Nah, this is useless. You are E-V13 :D

Are you sure? I'm confused now lol. But I believe you. It says M1 originates from Africa (or Asia?) and now it's basically an Eurasian haplogroup, so I don't think it's something wild, something unbelievable in my case.

[Chris596]

Are you sure? I'm confused now lol. But I believe you. It says M1 originates from Africa (or Asia?) and now it's basically an Eurasian haplogroup, so I don't think it's something wild, something unbelievable in my case.

Come on now, you said the V3 version is better :D

[Kaspias]

Are you sure? I'm confused now lol. But I believe you. It says M1 originates from Africa (or Asia?) and now it's basically an Eurasian haplogroup, so I don't think it's something wild, something unbelievable in my case.

Yeah, I'm sure you're E.

[RyoHazuki]

42 pages for one man

[Chris596]

42 pages for one man

It wasn't me :P

[Chris596]

Double post

[Maintenance]

Are you sure? I'm confused now lol. But I believe you. It says M1 originates from Africa (or Asia?) and now it's basically an Eurasian haplogroup, so I don't think it's something wild, something unbelievable in my case.

That garbage site gave me a haplo that only exist in burundi africa and nowhere else.

Its useless

[Chris596]

That garbage site gave me a haplo that only exist in burundi africa and nowhere else.

Its useless

Okay, I see, but is there a better one? How did you find out your real haplogroup?

[Maintenance]

Okay, I see, but is there a better one? How did you find out your real haplogroup?

23andme

That site and other sites are made by amateurs

[Peterski]

SO HIGH BALKAN ???!!!

[Chris596]

SO HIGH BALKAN ???!!!

Check your private messages.

[ScotEV13]

:)

https://i.imgur.com/87EpRj0.jpg


Hello Dušan,

I just learned about and used GedMatch for the first time tonight. Is it possible with the experience you have that you might help me get the most out of the site by helping me aquire a map or more clear percentages as you and others did for Chris on this thread? I would appreciate it it very much.

Thanks

[ScotEV13]

But I don't think Siberian component is purely East asian. I also think oceanian component is part Australoid.

Hello Universe,

I just learned about and used GedMatch for the first time tonight. How did you find or come up with the percentages you use in the signature on your posts (shown below)??

"Eurogenes k13:71.2% Belarusian + 15.1% Jew_Moldova + 13.7 Swiss_Italian @ 2.4 | R3P

Dodecad k12b: 85.3% Polish_Mazovia + 14.7% Morocco_Jew @ 1.83 | R2"

I could not find anything on the site yet that laid it out in plain percentages like that.

Please help if you can.

Thanks

[Ion Basescul]

oh wow, that's so weird! I literally have my myheritage results too, and they're totally different to yours...

53% balkan
36.9% east europe
4% northwest europe
5.5% west asian

and they're more or less similar with my 23andme results...

https://i.imgur.com/3cEJTVY.jpg


It's so weird that you got almost full balkan, I'm only half hungarian and I still got east european... or are you full szekely??? And myheritage breaks down easier tinier percentages of asian, they gave me a bigger percentage than 23andme, it's weird that you didn't get any west asian at all... I'm so confused. I think I'm feeling as confused as when I got my own 23andme results back lol

MyHeritage is simply inconsistent with its assignment of Balkan versus East Euro. It tends to overlap a lot. We've seen that also with Milenko's results vs. GEDmatch, among many other non-forum members that I have checked personally.
Chris actually has slightly more Northern results than you on GEDmatch.

[Scandal]

Hello Universe,

I just learned about and used GedMatch for the first time tonight. How did you find or come up with the percentages you use in the signature on your posts (shown below)??

"Eurogenes k13:71.2% Belarusian + 15.1% Jew_Moldova + 13.7 Swiss_Italian @ 2.4 | R3P

Dodecad k12b: 85.3% Polish_Mazovia + 14.7% Morocco_Jew @ 1.83 | R2"

I could not find anything on the site yet that laid it out in plain percentages like that.

Please help if you can.

Thanks
I used vahaduo. However if you're using gedmatch you have to click on the "oracle" button
https://i.imgur.com/Tv2s5Oi.jpg

[Dušan]

Hello Dušan,

I just learned about and used GedMatch for the first time tonight. Is it possible with the experience you have that you might help me get the most out of the site by helping me aquire a map or more clear percentages as you and others did for Chris on this thread? I would appreciate it it very much.

Thanks

Hello Scot,

Insert here your K36 results components, and you will get a map like that.

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm