My LivingDNA results :

[JamesBond007]

My livingDNA results make everything else look like trash even Davidksi's G25. Davidski's G25 insist my closest 1 population is Dutch which is I think is highly dubious. I know I have two Irish grandfathers and LivingDNA says I am 50.4% Irish -- that is dead accurate ! The rest is English with a little bit of Scottish. Now I do have 25% Ancestry from Alsace-Lorraine but all that kraut and north French ancestry when mixed around with 75% British isles just logically comes out as English probably which makes perfect sense to me :

https://i.postimg.cc/sf7wHg9j/livingdna2.png

[JamesBond007]

This is definitely better for people of British isles descent than retarded American science like AncestryDNA and 23andme ! I guess some Irish folks would be upset that livingdna does not show a breakdown for Ireland like it does for Scotland and England etc.. but I don't care. I think being about half Irish and half English with a dash of Scottish more or less makes me Scottish or if this showed a single closest population it would be Scottish not Irish or English but this is still better than that ancestryDNA trash I took.

[J. Ketch]

Congrats on being half Irish. It's not so bad is it :)

So now you know. 1/2 Irish, 1/4 British, 1/4 Alsatian. That does not a Scot make though.

[JamesBond007]

Congrats on being half Irish. It's not so bad is it :)

So now you know. 1/2 Irish, 1/4 British, 1/4 Alsatian. That does not a Scot make though.

Depends, the Swaefas tribe settled in Swaffham England and that is basically the Swabian tribe from Alsace more or less that is why it is showing up as English in my results. Also, there were French Huguenots an Flemish (Benelux) artisans in Britain and lowland Scotland. Also, Mary Queen of Scots House of Guise was in Lorraine (Alsace-Lorraine) France and she was half French. There is also the Cross of Lorraine in Scotland :


https://i1.trekearth.com/photos/17008/dscf3845-3.jpg

[J. Ketch]

btw LDNA's Irish estimates are very accurate now (they were wildly inaccurate before)

I'm half Irish and this is mine:
https://i.postimg.cc/0Nww8gtB/Opera-Snapshot-2020-02-03-055038-my-livingdna-com.png

[JamesBond007]

btw LDNA's Irish estimates are very accurate now (they were wildly inaccurate before)

I'm half Irish and this is mine:
https://i.postimg.cc/0Nww8gtB/Opera-Snapshot-2020-02-03-055038-my-livingdna-com.png

Cool, we got somewhat similar results. Now, I don't think we are literally Scottish (you Australian and I'm American) but if there was a singe closest population we are closest to it would be Scotland and not Ireland or England. Remember, you did the G25 PCA analysis for You, Grace and I and you said that (I paraphrase) : "we could all pass as Scottish " ?

[J. Ketch]

Depends, the Swaefas tribe settled in Swaffham England and that is basically the Swabian tribe from Alsace more or less that is why it is showing up as English in my results. Also, there were French Huguenots an Flemish (Benelux) artisans in Britain and lowland Scotland. Also, Mary Queen of Scots House of Guise was in Lorraine (Alsace-Lorraine) France and she was half French. There is also the Cross of Lorraine in Scotland :


https://i1.trekearth.com/photos/17008/dscf3845-3.jpg
The ancestry from Huguenots, Flemings or Swabians in Britain would be fairly minor, the similarity of those parts (SW Germany / NE France) to Southern England is because of shared Celto-Germanic origins going back thousands of years.

[JamesBond007]

The ancestry from Huguenots, Flemings or Swabians in Britain would be fairly minor, the similarity of those parts to Southern England is because of shared Celto-Germanic origins going back thousands of years.

Broham , it may be hard for you to swallow because you are more Northern English and midland English but the Southern English are part Kraut (I don't mean just Anglo-Saxon but actual Kraut) and part French. :

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/19/26C86A2700000578-3000998-The_study_found_that_Britain_can_be_divided_into_1 7_distinct_gen-a-4_1426776373068.jpg

[J. Ketch]

Cool, we got somewhat similar results. Now, I don't think we are literally Scottish (you Australian and I'm American) but if there was a singe closest population we are closest to it would be Scotland and not Ireland or England. Remember, you did the G25 PCA analysis for You, Grace and I and you said that (I paraphrase) : "we could all pass as Scottish " ?
I would never say something like that, good heavens. I'm not Scottish and neither are you.

[JamesBond007]

I would never say something like that, good heavens. I'm not Scottish and neither are you.

Damn, Broham, you are really going to make me hunt down that post of yours now so you can eat your own words ? Damn, that is going to be work man !

If we are not Scottish what would our single closest population be in G25 or Gedmatch terms then ?

[gixajo]

Depends, the Swaefas tribe settled in Swaffham England and that is basically the Swabian tribe from Alsace more or less that is why it is showing up as English in my results. Also, there were French Huguenots an Flemish (Benelux) artisans in Britain and lowland Scotland. Also, Mary Queen of Scots House of Guise was in Lorraine (Alsace-Lorraine) France and she was half French. There is also the Cross of Lorraine in Scotland :


https://i1.trekearth.com/photos/17008/dscf3845-3.jpg

Alsace and Lorraine are quite German French regions.

[J. Ketch]

Damn, Broham, you are really going to make me hunt down that post of yours now so you can eat your own words ? Damn, that is going to be work man !

If we are not Scottish what would our single closest population be in G25 or Gedmatch terms then ?
Don't bother, it really wasn't me (it was Ryo Hazuki IIRC).

My closest population in G25 is Orkney, followed by Scottish, and generally the same for Gedmatch calculators. That's a result of Scotland being kind of intermediate between England and Ireland. But that's the same as someone like Daco Celtic claiming to be Bavarian based on being intermediate of Irish and Romanian, it would be ridiculous.

[JamesBond007]

Don't bother, it really wasn't me (it was Ryo Hazuki IIRC).

My closest population in G25 is Orkney, followed by Scottish, and generally the same for Gedmatch calculators. That's a result of Scotland being kind of intermediate between England and Ireland. But that's the same as someone like Daco Celtic claiming to be Bavarian based on being intermediate of Irish and Romanian, it would be ridiculous.

Yeah, that is what I am talking about. As far as Daco Celtic is concerned he could pass in Alsace-Lorraine and I would not trust some random dude on the internet, especially an American, who claims to be part Irish. I would not be surprised if he is not Irish at all. Also, yeah, dude I would say G25 is doing it's job right if it says your single closest population is Orcadian and Scottish.

[J. Ketch]

Broham , it may be hard for you to swallow because you are more Northern English and midland English but the Southern English are part Kraut (I don't mean just Anglo-Saxon but actual Kraut) and part French. :

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/19/26C86A2700000578-3000998-The_study_found_that_Britain_can_be_divided_into_1 7_distinct_gen-a-4_1426776373068.jpg
Southern English are mostly a mixture of Gaulish Celts from the Iron Age and Anglo-Saxons from Jutland / NW Germany in the 5th and 6th Centuries, very little from modern French or Germans.

[Grace O'Malley]

Yeah, that is what I am talking about. As far as Daco Celtic is concerned he could pass in Alsace-Lorraine and I would not trust some random dude on the internet, especially an American, who claims to be part Irish. I would not be surprised if he is not Irish at all. Also, yeah, dude I would say G25 is doing it's job right if it says your single closest population is Orcadian and Scottish.

Stop being so provocative. Daco is definitely half Irish and on Ancestry he gets half Munster GC. If you want to claim anything then who really cares but stop claiming other people aren't being truthful in their heritage. Creoda, myself and Daco know our ancestry via paper trails and both Creoda and myself are of diaspora stock so it is very recent. I personally don't mind you claiming whatever you want but don't project onto others. Why are you doubting Daco's claims other than being trollish?

[Graham]

"Double 00 fecking bollocks. "

https://www.realitytitbit.com/static/uploads/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-19-at-15.47.50-1024x484.png

[Karol Klačansky]

It's only accurate for peope of British descent for the test of us it's shite.

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[JamesBond007]

Stop being so provocative. Daco is definitely half Irish and on Ancestry he gets half Munster GC. If you want to claim anything then who really cares but stop claiming other people aren't being truthful in their heritage. Creoda, myself and Daco know our ancestry via paper trails and both Creoda and myself are of diaspora stock so it is very recent. I personally don't mind you claiming whatever you want but don't project onto others. Why are you doubting Daco's claims other than being trollish?

I know I have a grandfather on my mother's side who is Irish with the last names of Rafferty and Judge (this is anglicized) and my grandfather on my father's side said his ancestors are from Donegal last name Burke (one of the most important Irish family surnames) and my Y-DNA is concentrated in certain parts of Ireland including Donegal :

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/6f/bf/fe6fbf379f8a983c0d4f8ec4f01c066a.jpg


Stop being so provocative. Daco is definitely half Irish and on Ancestry he gets half Munster GC. If you want to claim anything then who really cares but stop claiming other people aren't being truthful in their heritage. Creoda, myself and Daco know our ancestry via paper trails and both Creoda and myself are of diaspora stock so it is very recent. I personally don't mind you claiming whatever you want but don't project onto others. Why are you doubting Daco's claims other than being trollish?

Creoda is a Scotsman in denial and you are probably Scottish too if not English. "There is a Scottish national party -- it keeps kidnapping money and ransoming it for people" <--- this quip describes plastic paddy Scottish people who try to pretend to be 'Irish' perfectly.

Plastic Paddy :

A person who retains a strong sense of Irish cultural identity despite not having been born in Ireland or being of only partial (if any) Irish descent; generally used in referance to Irish-English or Irish-Americans. Percieved as irritating poseurs by Irish nationals.

That American wishes he was Irish. He's just a plastic paddy.

[JamesBond007]

It's only accurate for peope of British descent for the test of us it's shite.

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

True but it also surprisingly pretty good for black people too : black people and British people but it's somewhat better for British over black.

[JamesBond007]

"Double 00 fecking bollocks. "

https://www.realitytitbit.com/static/uploads/2019/03/Screen-Shot-2019-03-19-at-15.47.50-1024x484.png

What is a matter Broham you can't handle the fact that mainland or at least lowland Scots have some English blood ?:butt::smilie_flagge3:

[JamesBond007]

They updated my results : added a few points to Ireland , and added NorthWest Germania. It is hard to see but not really that significant : NorthWest Germania not including England : 2.1% :

https://i.postimg.cc/65TVsW-zq/livingdna3.png

[Avicii86]

Did you buy a kit or did you just upload your raw data? I'm impressed with LivingDNA. I'm thinking of buying a kit

[JamesBond007]

Did you buy a kit or did you just upload your raw data? I'm impressed with LivingDNA. I'm thinking of buying a kit

It's optimized for British people and to a lesser extant Black people but it works for all people I guess. if you upload your raw data it's cheap to get an ethnicity breakdown. I uploaded my AncestryDNA raw data then just paid about $39 USD for an upgrade for my ancestry breakdown.

[JamesBond007]

Did you buy a kit or did you just upload your raw data? I'm impressed with LivingDNA. I'm thinking of buying a kit

LivingDNA It nailed my ancestry : Irish and British with some German. AncestryDNA is trying to tell me I'm 1% black and some percent viking ! It's like nah, I'm not part black, and I am not part Viking the Viking blood is from the Scots especially around Orkney but not limited to that region. AncestryDNA just likes telling people they are Irish and part Viking because that is what Americans want to hear even if it's bullshit they know what Americans want to hear. Americans also like to hear they are like a small percentage exotic sh*t like Indian or black. AncestryDNA is full of sh*t.

AncestryDNA is not about science it is about telling Americans what they want to hear or wishful thinking !

[Avicii86]

LivingDNA It nailed my ancestry : Irish and British with some German. AncestryDNA is trying to tell me I'm 1% black and some percent viking ! It's like nah, I'm not part black, and I am not part Viking the Viking blood is from the Scots especially around Orkney but not limited to that region. AncestryDNA just likes telling people they are Irish and part Viking because that is what Americans want to hear even if it's bullshit they know what Americans want to hear. Americans also like to hear they are like a small percentage exotic sh*t like Indian or black. AncestryDNA is full of sh*t.

AncestryDNA is not about science it is about telling Americans what they want to hear or wishful thinking !

Yeah ancestry is shit. It got even worse after the update. 23andme is decent but gave me way too much unassigned.

[JamesBond007]

Yeah ancestry is shit. It got even worse after the update. 23andme is decent but gave me way too much unassigned.

I don't like things about 23andme ,for instance, they lump Britain and Ireland into one category which is pretty stupid both genetically and politically. AncestryDNA also says I'm mostly Irish/Scottish not differentiating between the two while LivingDNA tells me exactly how much Irish , Scottish and English I am. I could go on and on it just seems Americans are mentally retarded at science or that scientific truth doesn't sell to the scientifically illiterate American public who prefer to believe in "wishful thinking as fact".

[Coastal Elite]

Don't bother, it really wasn't me (it was Ryo Hazuki IIRC).

My closest population in G25 is Orkney, followed by Scottish, and generally the same for Gedmatch calculators. That's a result of Scotland being kind of intermediate between England and Ireland. But that's the same as someone like Daco Celtic claiming to be Bavarian based on being intermediate of Irish and Romanian, it would be ridiculous.

Yeah, I sure as hell wouldn't claim to be Bavarian despite my extraordinary beer drinking and punctuality. They look more alpine than me and have a totally different sense of humor. I once lived among the type in Pennsylvania.

[Coastal Elite]

My livingDNA results make everything else look like trash even Davidksi's G25. Davidski's G25 insist my closest 1 population is Dutch which is I think is highly dubious. I know I have two Irish grandfathers and LivingDNA says I am 50.4% Irish -- that is dead accurate ! The rest is English with a little bit of Scottish. Now I do have 25% Ancestry from Alsace-Lorraine but all that kraut and north French ancestry when mixed around with 75% British isles just logically comes out as English probably which makes perfect sense to me :

https://i.postimg.cc/sf7wHg9j/livingdna2.png

So obviously you agree with my statement about MyLivingDNA being underrated from your "AncestryDNA is Trash" thread. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?332074-AncestryDNA-is-trash&p=6884379&viewfull=1#post6884379