View Full Version : "Iberians" parents 23andMe results:
I don't have 23andMe results (didn't do the test) but I thought I'd show my mom and dads.
Dad:
Results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98331&d=1588639102
Paternal Haplogroup:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98332&d=1588639145
Mom:
Results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98333&d=1588639255
Maternal Haplogroup:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98334&d=1588639268
Pedro Ruben
05-05-2020, 01:02 AM
Resultados interessantes :)
Adamm
05-05-2020, 01:03 AM
I don't have 23andMe results (didn't do the test) but I thought I'd show my mom and dads.
Dad:
Results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98331&d=1588639102
Paternal Haplogroup:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98332&d=1588639145
Mom:
Results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98333&d=1588639255
Maternal Haplogroup:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98334&d=1588639268
Are the regions accurate for your parents?
Resultados interessantes :)
sim, I also uploaded my ancestry kit to LivingDNA so waiting for that one :)
RyoHazuki
05-05-2020, 01:04 AM
I wonder why your dad's Sub Saharan does not appear as "trace ancestry". I have 0.8% and it's just trace.
Are the regions accurate for your parents?
Yeah I'd say it seems pretty accurate. Mostly iberian with tiny bit of residual northwest and italian. I think everyone gets the same specific regions though.
I wonder why your dad's Sub Saharan does not appear as "trace ancestry". I have 0.8% and it's just trace.
not too sure why, interesting indeed.
Also found this pretty funny on my dads paternal line:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98335&d=1588641489
Rgvgjhvv
05-05-2020, 01:22 AM
Nice!!
Mixdguy17
05-05-2020, 01:29 AM
Nice results dude !My grandma also got Azores in her results, II think I am Portuguese through her lineage
https://i.imgur.com/n8cZokr.png
Mixdguy17
05-05-2020, 01:31 AM
Also found this pretty funny on my dads paternal line:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98335&d=1588641489
Lol also got the same, I've seen Iberians in general get that anccestors, might be bcs of R1b
AncientGreek
05-05-2020, 01:34 AM
I wonder why your dad's Sub Saharan does not appear as "trace ancestry". I have 0.8% and it's just trace.
Pretty sure it's only Trace if it disappears at 90% certainty. If it remains, it's not trace. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Nice results dude !My grandma also got Azores in her results, II think I am Portuguese through her lineage
https://i.imgur.com/n8cZokr.png
There are the regions my dad got: pretty accurate:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98341&d=1588642516
Pretty sure it's only Trace if it disappears at 90% certainty. If it remains, it's not trace. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, that is right (looked it up), but I think anything past 60% confidence rate stays. So I am .05 percent African :) at least from this test.
Pedro Ruben
05-05-2020, 01:42 AM
sim, I also uploaded my ancestry kit to LivingDNA so waiting for that one :)
Great, I uploaded to LivingNA, I had results similar to other tests.
RyoHazuki
05-05-2020, 01:42 AM
Pretty sure it's only Trace if it disappears at 90% certainty. If it remains, it's not trace. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Mine stays at 90% confidence, but goes down .1%. Weird.
AncientGreek
05-05-2020, 01:48 AM
Mine stays at 90% confidence, but goes down .1%. Weird.
Interesting, maybe it's 100% confidence (which we can't access but 23andme can).
Nassbean
05-05-2020, 02:00 AM
With their new beta update it seems everyone score 90% of their ethnicity ...show gedmatch or g25 results. These 23andme results are totally meaningless
With their new beta update it seems everyone score 90% of their ethnicity ...show gedmatch or g25 results. These 23andme results are totally meaningless
Sure, I'll add their Gedmatch. Which calculator do you want to see?
Nassbean
05-05-2020, 02:11 AM
Sure, I'll add their Gedmatch. Which calculator do you want to see?
K36, K15, K13
With their new beta update it seems everyone score 90% of their ethnicity ...show gedmatch or g25 results. These 23andme results are totally meaningless
Mom K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.18
2 West_Med 25.49
3 East_Med 14.07
4 Baltic 12.05
5 Northeast_African 2.76
6 Red_Sea 2.47
7 West_Asian 2.01
8 Sub-Saharan 1.7
9 South_Asian 1.04
10 Amerindian 1.02
11 Siberian 0.21
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 2.51
2 Spanish_Galicia 3.63
3 Spanish_Extremadura 3.8
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4.03
5 Spanish_Murcia 4.26
6 Spanish_Cataluna 4.98
7 Spanish_Valencia 5.02
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.72
9 Spanish_Andalucia 5.81
10 Spanish_Cantabria 6.74
11 Spanish_Aragon 8.6
12 North_Italian 8.75
13 Southwest_French 8.75
14 French 10.17
15 Tuscan 14.57
16 West_German 16.02
17 South_Dutch 16.06
18 Romanian 19.75
19 Serbian 19.78
20 French_Basque 20.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.2% Portuguese + 1.8% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 1.97
2 98.2% Portuguese + 1.8% Sudanese @ 1.97
3 98.2% Portuguese + 1.8% Hadza @ 1.98
4 98.3% Portuguese + 1.7% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 1.99
5 98% Portuguese + 2% Sandawe @ 2.01
6 98.4% Portuguese + 1.6% San @ 2.05
7 98.2% Portuguese + 1.8% Maasai @ 2.08
8 98.5% Portuguese + 1.5% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 2.1
9 98.5% Portuguese + 1.5% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.14
10 98.6% Portuguese + 1.4% Bantu_N.E. @ 2.15
11 98.7% Portuguese + 1.3% Luhya @ 2.16
12 98.8% Portuguese + 1.2% Biaka_Pygmy @ 2.19
13 98% Portuguese + 2% MA-1 @ 2.22
14 98.5% Portuguese + 1.5% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.23
15 98.9% Portuguese + 1.1% Bantu_S.E. @ 2.23
16 98.4% Portuguese + 1.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.24
17 98.9% Portuguese + 1.1% Bantu_S.W. @ 2.24
18 98.6% Portuguese + 1.4% Somali @ 2.27
19 99% Portuguese + 1% Mandenka @ 2.28
20 99.1% Portuguese + 0.9% Yoruban @ 2.3
Dad K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.04
2 West_Med 26.49
3 East_Med 14
4 Baltic 11.16
5 Red_Sea 2.59
6 Northeast_African 2.48
7 West_Asian 1.35
8 Sub-Saharan 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.84
10 East_Asian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 1.87
2 Spanish_Murcia 2.51
3 Portuguese 2.57
4 Spanish_Valencia 3.27
5 Spanish_Extremadura 3.45
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 3.56
7 Spanish_Cataluna 3.59
8 Spanish_Galicia 3.71
9 Spanish_Andalucia 4.67
10 Spanish_Cantabria 4.84
11 Spanish_Aragon 6
12 Southwest_French 7.13
13 French 10.23
14 North_Italian 10.41
15 South_Dutch 16.26
16 Tuscan 16.3
17 West_German 16.51
18 French_Basque 17.65
19 Southeast_English 20.12
20 Southwest_English 20.49
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 23.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.65
2 97.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.8% Sardinian @ 1.66
3 97.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.67
4 97.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.4% Italian_Jewish @ 1.68
5 97.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.5% Ashkenazi @ 1.69
6 97.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.1% Tunisian @ 1.69
7 98% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.71
8 96.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 3.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.71
9 97.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.1% Algerian @ 1.71
10 98.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.72
11 98% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2% Mozabite_Berber @ 1.72
12 71.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 28.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.72
13 97.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.5% South_Italian @ 1.72
14 93.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 6.5% North_Italian @ 1.72
15 95.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 4.2% Tuscan @ 1.72
16 98% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.74
17 98.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.6% Cyprian @ 1.74
18 97.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.4% East_Sicilian @ 1.74
19 98.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.8% Moroccan @ 1.74
20 98.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.4% Egyptian @ 1.75
Mom K15:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 29.74
2 West_Med 20.64
3 North_Sea 19.33
4 East_Med 10.2
5 Baltic 5.87
6 Northeast_African 3.55
7 West_Asian 2.84
8 Eastern_Euro 2.59
9 Red_Sea 2.38
10 Sub-Saharan 1.27
11 Amerindian 0.72
12 South_Asian 0.68
13 Siberian 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 2.9
2 Spanish_Murcia 3.02
3 Spanish_Extremadura 3.75
4 Portuguese 4.16
5 Spanish_Cataluna 4.38
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 4.81
7 Spanish_Valencia 4.96
8 Spanish_Andalucia 5.17
9 Spanish_Cantabria 5.81
10 Spanish_Galicia 6.44
11 Spanish_Aragon 6.59
12 Southwest_French 7.74
13 North_Italian 9.31
14 French 11.42
15 Tuscan 15
16 South_Dutch 15.68
17 French_Basque 16.17
18 West_German 18.52
19 Southwest_English 18.94
20 Serbian 19
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.4% Spanish_Murcia + 2.6% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 1.96
2 97.3% Spanish_Murcia + 2.7% Hadza @ 1.99
3 97.5% Spanish_Murcia + 2.5% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2
4 97.3% Spanish_Murcia + 2.7% Maasai @ 2.13
5 97.3% Spanish_Murcia + 2.7% Sandawe @ 2.13
6 97.6% Spanish_Murcia + 2.4% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.15
7 97.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.2% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2.16
8 97.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.2% Hadza @ 2.18
9 97.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.1% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.19
10 97.7% Spanish_Murcia + 2.3% Sudanese @ 2.23
11 97.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.3% Sandawe @ 2.28
12 97.4% Spanish_Murcia + 2.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.29
13 98% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.3
14 97.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.2% Maasai @ 2.31
15 97.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.3% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.31
16 97.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.4% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.33
17 97.4% Spanish_Murcia + 2.6% Somali @ 2.35
18 98.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.9% Sudanese @ 2.35
19 97.4% Spanish_Murcia + 2.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.37
20 97.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.2% Somali @ 2.4
Dad K15:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 27.26
2 North_Sea 23.98
3 West_Med 22.25
4 East_Med 11.33
5 Baltic 4.97
6 Northeast_African 2.56
7 Eastern_Euro 2.33
8 Red_Sea 2.19
9 West_Asian 1.48
10 Sub-Saharan 1.01
11 Amerindian 0.63
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 3.33
2 Spanish_Galicia 4.49
3 Spanish_Murcia 4.82
4 Spanish_Extremadura 4.93
5 Spanish_Cataluna 4.94
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.08
7 Spanish_Cantabria 7.37
8 Spanish_Valencia 7.89
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.92
10 Spanish_Andalucia 8.49
11 Spanish_Aragon 9.04
12 North_Italian 9.78
13 Southwest_French 10.03
14 French 10.12
15 South_Dutch 15.1
16 Tuscan 15.59
17 West_German 16.67
18 Southwest_English 17.7
19 French_Basque 18.62
20 Southeast_English 19.1
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.5% Portuguese + 2.5% Orcadian @ 3.28
2 98.2% Portuguese + 1.8% West_Norwegian @ 3.3
3 97.6% Portuguese + 2.4% Southwest_English @ 3.3
4 97.9% Portuguese + 2.1% Southeast_English @ 3.3
5 98.3% Portuguese + 1.7% West_Scottish @ 3.31
6 98.4% Portuguese + 1.6% Irish @ 3.31
7 92.6% Portuguese + 7.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.32
8 98.9% Portuguese + 1.1% North_Dutch @ 3.32
9 99.1% Portuguese + 0.9% Norwegian @ 3.32
10 98.7% Portuguese + 1.3% West_German @ 3.32
11 99.3% Portuguese + 0.7% Danish @ 3.33
12 96.7% Portuguese + 3.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
13 99.5% Portuguese + 0.5% Swedish @ 3.33
14 99.5% Portuguese + 0.5% French_Basque @ 3.33
15 100% Portuguese + 0% Abhkasian @ 3.33
16 100% Portuguese + 0% Adygei @ 3.33
17 100% Portuguese + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 3.33
18 100% Portuguese + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.33
19 100% Portuguese + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.33
20 100% Portuguese + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.33
Mom K36:
Population
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Arabian 0.85 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 5.22 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.42 Pct
East_African 0.43 Pct
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.90 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.12 Pct
East_Med 5.53 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.24 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.46 Pct
French 5.47 Pct
Iberian 19.85 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.23 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.51 Pct
North_African 5.37 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.27 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 8.92 Pct
Northeast_African 0.25 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic 1.38 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 0.50 Pct
West_Caucasian 1.23 Pct
West_Med 7.70 Pct
Dad K36:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.48 Pct
Central_African 0.25 Pct
Central_Euro 5.87 Pct
East_African 0.87 Pct
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.81 Pct
East_Med 1.48 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 1.45 Pct
French 5.49 Pct
Iberian 30.18 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 19.57 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.52 Pct
North_African 5.97 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.39 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.98 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.51 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.15 Pct
What I found interesting is for my Moms K36 she gets a lot of Fennoscandia, little iberian, and more basque... while my dad gets little fennoscandia, way more iberia, and italian, and less basque.
K36, K15, K13
North Africa for my mom is 5.37 Pct, and my dad is 5.97 Pct :)
Nassbean
05-05-2020, 03:52 AM
North Africa for my mom is 5.37 Pct, and my dad is 5.97 Pct :)
K36 underestimate it ...I'm only 30% NA on it
K36 underestimate it ...I'm only 30% NA on it
So maybe I am more haha
Nassbean
05-05-2020, 03:57 AM
So maybe I am more haha
the portuguese average is 8-9%
Nice results, your family is fully Portuguese. Though 12+% NW European on 23andme is definitely not a small percentage. I guess that's from the medieval Germanic elite :cool:
Nice results, your family is fully Portuguese. Though 12+% NW European on 23andme is definitely not a small percentage. I guess that's from the medieval Germanic elite :cool:
Could be. I don’t think it’s that uncommon though. :thumb001:
gixajo
05-05-2020, 02:40 PM
the portuguese average is 8-9%
How much Arabian do you get in k36?
gixajo
05-05-2020, 02:43 PM
Could be. I don’t think it’s that uncommon though. :thumb001:
Your parents get a very good distances in gedmatch results.
Nassbean
05-05-2020, 02:59 PM
How much Arabian do you get in k36?
5.73%
Morena
05-05-2020, 03:06 PM
Nice results. Very typical for their ethnicity! :D
Nice results. Very typical for their ethnicity! :D
Thank you
Nice results. Very typical for their ethnicity! :D
Double
Your parents get a very good distances in gedmatch results.
Yeah, they seem full Iberian
gixajo
05-05-2020, 05:28 PM
Yeah, they seem full Iberian
So you are the same. Full Iberian.
Could be. I don’t think it’s that uncommon though. :thumb001:
Add your own Gedmatch to this thread for comparison.
Add your own Gedmatch to this thread for comparison.
For comparison,
My K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.92
2 West_Med 24.77
3 East_Med 14.32
4 Baltic 11.77
5 Red_Sea 3.43
6 Northeast_African 2.74
7 Sub-Saharan 1.46
8 Siberian 0.83
9 Amerindian 0.33
10 South_Asian 0.29
11 Oceanian 0.12
12 West_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 2.92
2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 2.94
3 Spanish_Murcia 3.68
4 Spanish_Galicia 3.98
5 Spanish_Extremadura 4.65
6 Spanish_Cataluna 4.66
7 Spanish_Valencia 4.91
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.45
9 Spanish_Cantabria 6.37
10 Spanish_Andalucia 6.51
11 Spanish_Aragon 7.53
12 Southwest_French 8.46
13 French 9.75
14 North_Italian 10.93
15 South_Dutch 15.63
16 West_German 15.88
17 Tuscan 16.46
18 French_Basque 18.95
19 Southeast_English 19.54
20 Southwest_English 20.03
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.9% Sandawe @ 2.54
2 96% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 4% Tunisian @ 2.54
3 95.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 4.1% Algerian @ 2.56
4 97.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 2.57
5 97% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 3% Egyptian @ 2.57
6 97.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.1% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 2.57
7 97.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.59
8 98.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.8% Maasai @ 2.59
9 96.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 3.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.6
10 98.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.9% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.6
11 98.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.5% Sudanese @ 2.6
12 98.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.5% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.61
13 98.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.5% San @ 2.62
14 98.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.6% Hadza @ 2.62
15 98.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.7% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.62
16 98.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.4% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 2.63
17 98.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.7% Somali @ 2.64
18 98.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.4% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2.64
19 50.8% Portuguese + 49.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.65
20 96.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 3.5% Moroccan @ 2.65
My K15:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 29.7
2 North_Sea 20.9
3 West_Med 20.85
4 East_Med 10.7
5 Baltic 6.02
6 Northeast_African 3.14
7 Red_Sea 3.12
8 Eastern_Euro 2.38
9 Sub-Saharan 1.38
10 West_Asian 0.86
11 Siberian 0.84
12 Amerindian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 2.88
2 Spanish_Murcia 3.07
3 Portuguese 3.83
4 Spanish_Extremadura 3.85
5 Spanish_Cataluna 4.33
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.65
7 Spanish_Valencia 5.66
8 Spanish_Galicia 5.8
9 Spanish_Cantabria 5.98
10 Spanish_Andalucia 6.33
11 Spanish_Aragon 6.84
12 Southwest_French 8.06
13 North_Italian 10.03
14 French 11.09
15 South_Dutch 15.47
16 Tuscan 15.78
17 French_Basque 16.46
18 West_German 18.1
19 Southwest_English 18.44
20 Serbian 19.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 44.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.53
2 98.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.5% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2.56
3 98.1% Spanish_Murcia + 1.9% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2.57
4 98.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.5% Hadza @ 2.57
5 98.1% Spanish_Murcia + 1.9% Hadza @ 2.58
6 98.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.4% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.6
7 98.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.6% Sandawe @ 2.6
8 98.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.3% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.61
9 98.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.6% Maasai @ 2.61
10 98.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.7% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 2.61
11 98% Spanish_Murcia + 2% Maasai @ 2.62
12 98.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.62
13 98.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.4% Sudanese @ 2.62
14 98.2% Spanish_Murcia + 1.8% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.62
15 98.3% Spanish_Murcia + 1.7% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.63
16 98% Spanish_Murcia + 2% Sandawe @ 2.63
17 98.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 2.64
18 98.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.7% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 2.64
19 98.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.5% Somali @ 2.65
20 98.2% Spanish_Murcia + 1.8% Sudanese @ 2.65
My K36:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.54 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.83 Pct
East_African 1.68 Pct
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.96 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.38 Pct
East_Med 5.68 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 4.80 Pct
French 4.34 Pct
Iberian 22.58 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.17 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 5.34 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.37 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 8.46 Pct
Northeast_African 0.75 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.35 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.00 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.74 Pct
For comparison,
My K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.92
2 West_Med 24.77
3 East_Med 14.32
4 Baltic 11.77
5 Red_Sea 3.43
6 Northeast_African 2.74
7 Sub-Saharan 1.46
8 Siberian 0.83
9 Amerindian 0.33
10 South_Asian 0.29
11 Oceanian 0.12
12 West_Asian 0.01
Lol. The 0.01 can be deleted altogether, values below 0.05 percent aren't real, they don't even show up until you load the oracle. So it's basically zero.
It's interesting that both your parents score West_Asian and also their Red_Sea is lower than yours.
Lol. The 0.01 can be deleted altogether, values below 0.05 percent aren't real, they don't even show up until you load the oracle. So it's basically zero.
It's interesting that both your parents score West_Asian and also their Red_Sea is lower than yours.
Sorry, only just seeing this now...
Yeah, I found it interesting how my Red sea component is higher. Not sure why that is. But since my families probably didn't move all that much this is general migratory flow into Iberia.
Maybe you need to ask for a username change? 'Iberians' is the plural and sounds a bit confusing to me.
Maybe you need to ask for a username change? 'Iberians' is the plural and sounds a bit confusing to me.
I'm sure "Iberian" is already taken. How do I get a username change anyway?
Aileron
05-13-2020, 07:24 PM
I'm sure "Iberian" is already taken. How do I get a username change anyway?
You should have picked Iberian01
:)
mitalit
05-13-2020, 07:26 PM
Iberian 2.0 jaja
gixajo
05-13-2020, 07:27 PM
Lusitanian_Iberian or Iberian_Lusitanian
Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2020, 07:38 PM
Our distances are very similar. K13:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 2.48
2 Spanish_Extremadura 3.39
3 Spanish_Cataluna 3.72
4 Spanish_Murcia 3.8
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.9
6 Spanish_Galicia 4.24
7 Spanish_Valencia 4.44
8 Spanish_Andalucia 4.93
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.18
10 Spanish_Cantabria 6.46
11 Spanish_Aragon 7.93
12 North_Italian 8.52
13 Southwest_French 8.77
14 French 9.4
15 Tuscan 14.37
16 West_German 15.38
17 South_Dutch 15.46
18 French_Basque 19.38
19 Southeast_English 19.84
20 Romanian 19.97
Lusitanian_Iberian or Iberian_Lusitanian
Or Conii in his case.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3nios
Lucas
05-13-2020, 07:40 PM
I'm sure "Iberian" is already taken. How do I get a username change anyway?
Iberian Viking :)
gixajo
05-13-2020, 07:43 PM
Our distances are very similar. K13:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 2.48
2 Spanish_Extremadura 3.39
3 Spanish_Cataluna 3.72
4 Spanish_Murcia 3.8
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.9
6 Spanish_Galicia 4.24
7 Spanish_Valencia 4.44
8 Spanish_Andalucia 4.93
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.18
10 Spanish_Cantabria 6.46
11 Spanish_Aragon 7.93
12 North_Italian 8.52
13 Southwest_French 8.77
14 French 9.4
15 Tuscan 14.37
16 West_German 15.38
17 South_Dutch 15.46
18 French_Basque 19.38
19 Southeast_English 19.84
20 Romanian 19.97
Or Conii in his case.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3nios
Lusitanian enemies!!!
It´s said that Conil de la Frontera name comes from that tribe.
Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2020, 07:47 PM
Lusitanian enemies!!!
It´s said that Conil de la Frontera name comes from that tribe.
They had some drawing talent:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Escrita_sudoeste_by_Henrique_Matos_002A.jpg
gixajo
05-13-2020, 07:48 PM
They had some drawing talent:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Escrita_sudoeste_by_Henrique_Matos_002A.jpg
Thartesian ?
They had some drawing talent:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Escrita_sudoeste_by_Henrique_Matos_002A.jpg
so proud of my ancestors
https://media.giphy.com/media/pjFtqZs1G9dDqwTDaV/giphy.gif
Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2020, 07:51 PM
Thartesian ?
Not 100% sure but apparently it's Conii. Found it in english:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynetes
Edit - Yes, seems they used Thartessian alphabet and writting.
I'm sure "Iberian" is already taken. How do I get a username change anyway?
Just pick a whole different word. I think you can ask Loki to change it. He is the boss on TA.
gixajo
05-13-2020, 08:09 PM
Not 100% sure but apparently it's Conii. Found it in english:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynetes
Edit - Yes, seems they used Thartessian alphabet and writting.
https://i.imgur.com/QIVadWq.png
According to Estrabón Turdetanians, (considered as Thartessian culture heirs ):
"The Turdetanians are ranked as the wisest of the Iberians; and they make use of an alphabet, and possess records of their ancient history, poems, and laws written in verse that are six thousand years old, as they assert."
"The Turdetanians ... and particularly those that live about the Baetis, have completely changed over to the Roman mode of life; with most of the populace not even remembering their own language any more."
Strabo, Geography, book 3, chapter 1, section 6.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/3A*.html
gixajo
05-13-2020, 08:10 PM
Iberian 2.0 jaja
Lusitano Celtibérico!!!
mitalit
05-13-2020, 08:12 PM
Lusitano Celtibérico!!!
Pobre coisa
gixajo
05-13-2020, 08:12 PM
I'm sure "Iberian" is already taken. How do I get a username change anyway?
You can chang the "i" form "iberian" by an L minuscule =(lower case) "lberian".
https://i.imgur.com/QIVadWq.png
According to Estrabón Turdetanians, (considered as Thartessian culture heirs ):
Strabo, Geography, book 3, chapter 1, section 6.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/3A*.html
Some interesting info about Lusitanians:
The origin of the Lusitanians
"When people think about Lusitania, they usually think about the Iberian Roman province with this name, which comprised modern Portugal’s territory (except for the area above the river Douro) and Spanish Extremadura. This is perhaps the main reason for all the misconceptions about the Lusitanians one hears from most people.
The ethnic Lusitanians, in fact, occupied a territory comprised by today’s Northern Portugal down until the Tagus river (possibly some more territory South of this river as well) and a small part of Spain’s Extremadura. The region in Portugal we know today as Alentejo was inhabited by the Celtici, and what is today Algarve was inhabited by the Conii.
The Vettones and the Gallaecians were neighbouring tribes closely related to the Lusitanians in genetic, linguistic, cultural, traditional and religious terms. The Gallaecians occupied today’s Northern Portugal and the province of Galicia, while the Vettones occupied most of Spain’s Extremadura.
With this said, the Lusitanians, the Gallaecians, the Celtici and, to some extent, the Conii, made the bedrock of the modern Portuguese and Galician peoples’ Indo-European heritage.
The Iberian Peninsula was inhabited by the native Iberians long before the first Indo-European arrivals. Prior to that, the tribes mentioned above did not exist yet. Iberia in particular has many evidence of Pre Indo-European populations and culture, with megalithic sites being present all over the Peninsula, specially in what is today Portugal.
The Lusitanian language
There is no consensus on the etymology of the word “Lusitanian”. This tribe was most likely named by the Romans themselves. Pliny the Elder suggests a relation with “Lusos”[2], a son or companion of Bacchus. Other scholars have suggested a possible root in the Latin word lux and, ultimately, Proto-Indo-European *lewk-, meaning “light”, thus “Lusitania” possibly meaning “Land of the Light”. Gouveia[3] suggested a comparison with Anatolian luth, meaning “light stone” and ythania, meaning “land of the river of heaven”.
As mentioned before, these people spoke the Lusitanian language. Unfortunately, very few evidence of it survived to this day. Any Pre-Roman proof of a written Lusitanian language (if there was one) is lost and only inscriptions using the Latin alphabet remain. Categorizing this language has also proven to be quite difficult, but Lusitanian is usually described as a Pre-Celtic language put under the Indo-European family with its own category (Lusitanian). It’s worth noting, however, that it has many Celtic and Proto-Celtic derived words.
A recent effort from the University of Coimbra[3] analysed toponyms of ancient Lusitania with the goal of determining their etymological roots. One of its main flaws is that it considered Post-Roman toponyms, thus increasing significantly the amount of Latin derived words. In any case, these were the results."
Pre-Indo-European (3 toponyms = 2% of total)
Indo-European, undifferentiated (56 toponyms = 33.5%)
Celtic (50 toponyms = 30%)
Iberian (Non-Indo-European) (2 toponyms = 1%)
Latin (30 toponyms = 18%)
Uncertain (26 toponyms = 15.5%)
https://herminiusmons.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/chart-e1531882784590.png?w=318
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