Chris596's Turkic K11 admixture results

[Chris596]

Is this high for a Hungarian?


Population Percentage

Southeast European 34.49%
West Asian 11.65
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.00%
Northeast European 35.23%
Indian 0.00%
Northwest European 14.19%
Turkic 4.43%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

EDIT: Other members! Please share your Turkic admixture results (Hungarians as well)

[Maintenance]

no.

[Chris596]

Something is not right, I think I copied the text in a wrong way, the Southeast-Asian is 0%.

[Seya]

no, it's not

[Jana]

Not unusual, but on high end for Turkic score for sure. My Hungarian friend scores 0.

[Seya]

Not unusual, but on high end for Turkic score for sure. My Hungarian friend scores 0.

But how much SE Asian, NE Asian and Mongolian he scores instead?

[Ion Basescul]

I think that the Turkic component is unstable and grabs bits of West Eurasian ancestry.
What are you closest populations with this calculator? I don't think that it's entirely accurate for me. I should be closer to South Slavs and Hungarians than to Germans and Czechs.


<tbody>
Population

Distance



Moldavians

1.370046



Bulgarian

1.633454



Germans

1.963457



Czech

2.113807



Serbian

2.219288



Bosnian

2.272301



Hungarian

2.298695



Croats

2.459515


</tbody>

[Jana]

But how much SE Asian, NE Asian and Mongolian he scores instead?

If I remember correctly, she scores over 1% Mongolian.

[Seya]

If I remember correctly, she scores over 1% Mongolian.

yes, that's why she's 0% turkic.

[altaic]

My Turkic is 4.78% which is lower than the Turkish averages. I think your Turkic result is slightly over Hungarian averages which I assume 3-4%

[Dr_Maul]

Mine is 2.55% Turkic + 1.57 Northeast Asian (Basically Turkic) so TURAN PRIDE

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/jSgXAgIgDcNg9y0eC9x1iSK5sdpykdXuAZrGrPwwmMY1vV6UwI EAV32a_epXFsEs4vV2xDB1IYrRrT0KIABsLaGZ

[Turul Karom]

Is this high for a Hungarian?


Population Percentage

Southeast European 34.49%
West Asian 11.65
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.00%
Northeast European 35.23%
Indian 0.00%
Northwest European 14.19%
Turkic 4.43%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

EDIT: Other members! Please share your Turkic admixture results (Hungarians as well)

Very close to my Turkic % results!

https://i.imgur.com/uxiMvmS.png

[Turul Karom]

Mine is 2.55% Turkic + 1.57 Northeast Asian (Basically Turkic) so TURAN PRIDE

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/jSgXAgIgDcNg9y0eC9x1iSK5sdpykdXuAZrGrPwwmMY1vV6UwI EAV32a_epXFsEs4vV2xDB1IYrRrT0KIABsLaGZ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WOfxITiEAs

https://i.imgur.com/nPGSIXO.jpg

[Turul Karom]

Double post.

Have a video of the SPIRIT of TURANIC HUNGARY.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZQXhYinag8

[Hapanuwa]

My Turkic is 8.89% and Northeast Asian is 1.96%.
Normally i get 10-13% East Eurasian on Gedmatch

[Chris596]

My Turkic is 8.89% and Northeast Asian is 1.96%.
Normally i get 10-13% East Eurasian on Gedmatch

That's nice! I don't know why I didn't get any Southeast-Asian here, while on other GEDMatch calculators I usually get more than 1%.

[Seya]

My Turkic is 4.78% which is lower than the Turkish averages. I think your Turkic result is slightly over Hungarian averages which I assume 3-4%

any molgolian or NE asian?

[Impaler]

any molgolian or NE asian?

How much do you score in total? Turkic + Mongol + NE Asian?

[Seya]

How much do you score in total? Turkic + Mongol + NE Asian?

i cannot access the acount anymore. i'm not sure if they deleted them or what happened cause even the one i made for my mom i cannot access anymore. it denyes my passwords.i think i posted the results on a k11 thread before. as far as i remember my turkic was 0% but i have high mongolian and NE asian..around 7% i think.

[PAGANE]

For me, Turkic is - 0, for my mother - 0.21, and for my brother -3.18

[Hapanuwa]

My Turkic is 8.89% and Northeast Asian is 1.96%.
Normally i get 10-13% East Eurasian on Gedmatch

I forgot to say that I also got 2.53% Mongol, 1.96% Northeast Asian, and 0.77% Southeast Asian.
So in total: 16.11% East Eurasian.

[Seya]

How much do you score in total? Turkic + Mongol + NE Asian?

i cannot access the acount anymore. i'm not sure if they deleted them or what happened cause even the one i made for my mom i cannot access anymore. it denyes my passwords.i think i posted the results on a k11 thread before. as far as i remember my turkic was 0% but i have high mongolian and NE asian..around 7% i think.

[Hapanuwa]

That's nice! I don't know why I didn't get any Southeast-Asian here, while on other GEDMatch calculators I usually get more than 1%.

Honestly, I wouldn't take this calculator serious. G25 and gedmatch are much more reliable

[Impaler]

i cannot access the acount anymore. i'm not sure if they deleted them or what happened cause even the one i made for my mom i cannot access anymore. it denyes my passwords.i think i posted the results on a k11 thread before. as far as i remember my turkic was 0% but i have high mongolian and NE asian..around 7% i think.

But you can create again an account and upload your genome. It takes 2-3 mins. I have never seen a Romanian with high Mongol and NE Asian.

[yamagi]

It's high

You should be deported to Kazakhstan.

[Seya]

But you can create again an account and upload your genome. It takes 2-3 mins. I have never seen a Romanian with high Mongol and NE Asian.

yes. i'll make a new one

as far as i remember even nurzat has over 5.5%..almost 6%? maybe i'm wrong

[Luke35]

That's a solid amount Chris, I can't remember what mine was exactly but it was lower than yours.

[Kamilla13]

Chris, is this in Eurogenes or else ?
I don't see this Turkic thing.

I receive some Volga Ural on the normal K11.

[Seya]

Chris, is this in Eurogenes or else ?
I don't see this Turkic thing.

I receive some Volga Ural on the normal K11.

volga-ural is high in nordic people, especially NE euros

[Seya]

where is that k11 thread?? i can't find it anywhere :/

[Chris596]

Chris, is this in Eurogenes or else ?
I don't see this Turkic thing.

I receive some Volga Ural on the normal K11.

Yes, this is from Eurogenes.

[Chris596]

It's high

You should be deported to Kazakhstan.

Lol.

[magicalM]

Hungarian
Southeast European 30.91
West Asian 8.19
Southeast Asian 0.00
Sub-saharan African 0.00
Northeast European 36.10
Indian 1.91
Northwest European 21.59
Turkic 0.38
Mongol 0.93
Papuan 0.00
Northeast Asian 0.00




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[Chris596]

Hungarian
Southeast European 30.91
West Asian 8.19
Southeast Asian 0.00
Sub-saharan African 0.00
Northeast European 36.10
Indian 1.91
Northwest European 21.59
Turkic 0.38
Mongol 0.93
Papuan 0.00
Northeast Asian 0.00




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Wow almost 1% Mongol. Interesting.

[magicalM]

Wow almost 1% Mongol. Interesting.I know, it's even more visible on my fathers look. Welcome by the way.

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[Thambi]

not from your region but here's how i score if you need to compare. I get no mongol/ne asian but i get slight se asian and turkic.

you might have some legit turkic since its over 4%. For me its most likely just some random eastern pull through ASI since i get SE asian as well but for you it indeed might be actual turkic influence.

0.00% SE_European
13.36% W_Asian
2.18% SE_Asian
0.89% SSA
4.98% NE_European
70.86% Indian
0.00% NW_European
4.67% Turkic
0.94% Mongol
2.12% Papuan
0.00% NE_Asian

[Thambi]

where is that k11 thread?? i can't find it anywhere :/

this one?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195528-How-T%FCrkic-are-you-Post-your-Turkic-K11-results

[magicalM]

Dup

[Seya]

this one?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195528-How-T%FCrkic-are-you-Post-your-Turkic-K11-results

i guess so but i cannot find my results in there :/

[17571imre]

mother:

Southeast European 28.64%
West Asian 10.25%
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.00%
Northeast European 35.63%
Indian 0.73%
Northwest European 19.59%
Turkic 1.48%
Mongol 2.02%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 1.65%

mine:
Population
Percentage
Southeast European 29.21%
West Asian 14.69%
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.07%
Northeast European 33.82%
Indian 0.00%
Northwest European 18.47%
Turkic 2.67%
Mongol 0.75%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.32%

[Thambi]

i guess so but i cannot find my results in there :/

did you use yourdnaportal before? magicalm brought up regarding the database earlier. the turkic k11 calc is still on there i think so you could probably see your results there.

[Luke35]

Here Chris, I found mine. Turkic is there, but not much.

Population
Percentage
Southeast European
30.10%
West Asian
10.15%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.03%
Northeast European
34.01%
Indian
2.20%
Northwest European
21.65%
Turkic
1.85%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

[Seya]

did you use yourdnaportal before? magicalm brought up regarding the calc earlier. the turkic k11 calc is still on there i think so you could probably see your results there.

yes, i used yourdnaportal but cannot access my account anymore. i think i've used it only once as all the other calculators are found on gedmatch as well

[magicalM]

yes, i used yourdnaportal but cannot access my account anymore. i think i've used it only once as all the other calculators are found on gedmatch as wellYou can register again with another email.. Should work

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[Seya]

You can register again with another email.. Should work

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i know but i need to make a new email for that :lol: maybe some other time ))

[Kökény]

Here's mine.

Population Percentage
Southeast European
23.67%
West Asian
16.99%
Southeast Asian
0.58%
Sub-Saharan African
0.69%
Northeast Europe
31.21%
Indian
2.61%
Northwest European
19.77%
Turkic
3.58%
Mongol
0.51%
Papuan
0.24%
Northeast Asian
0.16%

[Kaspias]

Turkic 9.13%
Mongol 2.26%
Northeast Asian 1.41%

[magicalM]

i know but i need to make a new email for that [emoji38] maybe some other time ))No stress ;-)

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[Kamilla13]

Should this calculator be taken with a grain of salt or really attesting for Turkic traces?

Why do I have % and noone of you got Volga/Ural?

[gixajo]

I copy here what i posted in the other thread:

Population
Percentage
Southeast European
34.30%
West Asian
13.62%
Southeast Asian
0.31%
Sub-Saharan African
0.08%
Northeast European
17.32%
Indian
1.04%
Northwest European
33.29%
Turkic
0.00%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.02%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

But this calculator is shithy, my predictions:


Population
Value
Germans
27.2
Italian_North
15
French
4.8
Sicilian
4.8
English
3.8
Basque
3.4
Spanish
3.4
Greek
3
Jew_Ashkenazi
2.8
Loschbour
2.2
Norwegian
2.2
Italian_South
2
Jew_Libyan
1.8
Orcadian
1.6
Scottish
1.6
Spanish_N
1.4
Bulgarian
1.2
Icelandic
1.2
Serbian
1.2
Cypriot
1
Moldavians
1
Turkish_Adana
1
Bosnian
0.8
Kosovo
0.8
Algerian
0.6
Cossacks
0.6
Macedonian
0.6
Moroccan
0.6
Stuttgart
0.6
Tunisian
0.6
Turkish_Balikesir
0.6
Albanians
0.4
Assyrians
0.4
BedouinA
0.4
Croats
0.4
Jordanians
0.4
Libyan
0.4
Montenegran
0.4
Pashtun_Afghan
0.4
Swedes
0.4
Arabs_Israel
0.2
Azerbaijanis
0.2
Balochi
0.2
Egyptian
0.2
Hungarian
0.2
India_Asur
0.2
Jew_iraqi
0.2
Kumyks
0.2
Kurd_N
0.2
Kurd_SE
0.2
North_Ossetians
0.2
Poles
0.2
Sardinian
0.2
Turkish_Kayseri
0.2
Ukrainians_north
0.2

[Chris596]

not from your region but here's how i score if you need to compare. I get no mongol/ne asian but i get slight se asian and turkic.

you might have some legit turkic since its over 4%. For me its most likely just some random eastern pull through ASI since i get SE asian as well but for you it indeed might be actual turkic influence.


Yes I also think this is a possibility, and maybe that influenced my looks more. You have interesting results nonetheless.


Here Chris, I found mine. Turkic is there, but not much.



Here's mine.



Turkic 9.13%
Mongol 2.26%
Northeast Asian 1.41%

Really cool results! :)

[Turul Karom]

Should this calculator be taken with a grain of salt or really attesting for Turkic traces?

Why do I have % and noone of you got Volga/Ural?

If you are talking about the Turkic K11, then if anything it trends to the easternmost Turkics as it's reference point. Kyrgyzs and Uyghurs are used as 100% Turkics, for example. This area is very far from the Volga, and it answers your question.

[gixajo]

Should this calculator be taken with a grain of salt or really attesting for Turkic traces?

Why do I have % and noone of you got Volga/Ural?

Is very bad...I am 34% South East European???

My closest population is...Germany?

:picard1:

[Zoro]

I copy here what i posted in the other thread:

Population
Percentage
Southeast European
34.30%
West Asian
13.62%
Southeast Asian
0.31%
Sub-Saharan African
0.08%
Northeast European
17.32%
Indian
1.04%
Northwest European
33.29%
Turkic
0.00%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.02%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

But this calculator is shithy, my predictions:


Population
Value
Germans
27.2
Italian_North
15
French
4.8
Sicilian
4.8
English
3.8
Basque
3.4
Spanish
3.4
Greek
3
Jew_Ashkenazi
2.8
Loschbour
2.2
Norwegian
2.2
Italian_South
2
Jew_Libyan
1.8
Orcadian
1.6
Scottish
1.6
Spanish_N
1.4
Bulgarian
1.2
Icelandic
1.2
Serbian
1.2
Cypriot
1
Moldavians
1
Turkish_Adana
1
Bosnian
0.8
Kosovo
0.8
Algerian
0.6
Cossacks
0.6
Macedonian
0.6
Moroccan
0.6
Stuttgart
0.6
Tunisian
0.6
Turkish_Balikesir
0.6
Albanians
0.4
Assyrians
0.4
BedouinA
0.4
Croats
0.4
Jordanians
0.4
Libyan
0.4
Montenegran
0.4
Pashtun_Afghan
0.4
Swedes
0.4
Arabs_Israel
0.2
Azerbaijanis
0.2
Balochi
0.2
Egyptian
0.2
Hungarian
0.2
India_Asur
0.2
Jew_iraqi
0.2
Kumyks
0.2
Kurd_N
0.2
Kurd_SE
0.2
North_Ossetians
0.2
Poles
0.2
Sardinian
0.2
Turkish_Kayseri
0.2
Ukrainians_north
0.2



Calculator and oracles are 2 separate things. You can have a shitty calculator and good oracles. You can also have a good calculator and shitty oracles.

This is a good calculator with not useful oracles. I remember either reading somewhere or being told that Dilawer doesn’t spend time running alot of populations and making averages because oracles are not important to him. He doesn’t have time for that. He expects others to run populations and make spreadsheets for oracles.

The reason you don’t like your oracles is because there are too few populations in the spreadsheet for the oracles. So just use the calculator part and not oracles. I think this applies to all his calculators. It’s a dated one so not the best but comparable to others of its time (disregard oracles)

[Turul Karom]

Here's mine.

Population Percentage
Southeast European
23.67%
West Asian
16.99%
Southeast Asian
0.58%
Sub-Saharan African
0.69%
Northeast Europe
31.21%
Indian
2.61%
Northwest European
19.77%
Turkic
3.58%
Mongol
0.51%
Papuan
0.24%
Northeast Asian
0.16%

Very interesting. Adding your Turkic %, Mongol %, Papuan % and Northeast Asian %, and you score almost exactly what I do for my Turkic %.

[Halgurd]

W_Asian 73.87%
NE_European 13.08%
Turkic 6.76%
Indian 6.28%

[Thracian]

Do not take this trashy calculator seriously. Even Non Turks score more Turkic than full blooded Turks like me.

27.65% SE_European
25.61% W_Asian
0.48% SE_Asian
0.20% SSA
22.48% NE_European
3.20% Indian
16.27% NW_European
2.82% Turkic
0.75% Mongol
0.03% Papuan
0.50% NE_Asian

[Turul Karom]

Do not take this trashy calculator seriously. Even Non Turks score more Turkic than full blooded Turks like me.

27.65% SE_European
25.61% W_Asian
0.48% SE_Asian
0.20% SSA
22.48% NE_European
3.20% Indian
16.27% NW_European
2.82% Turkic
0.75% Mongol
0.03% Papuan
0.50% NE_Asian

Run puntDNAL K13 and HarappaWorld on GEDmatch and send me your results over PM if you don't want to post them. Mixed populations too!

[Halgurd]

Do not take this trashy calculator seriously. Even Non Turks score more Turkic than full blooded Turks like me.

27.65% SE_European
25.61% W_Asian
0.48% SE_Asian
0.20% SSA
22.48% NE_European
3.20% Indian
16.27% NW_European
2.82% Turkic
0.75% Mongol
0.03% Papuan
0.50% NE_Asian

All it does is it measures your genetic affinity to Central Asian Turks.

[Zoro]

Do not take this trashy calculator seriously. Even Non Turks score more Turkic than full blooded Turks like me.

27.65% SE_European
25.61% W_Asian
0.48% SE_Asian
0.20% SSA
22.48% NE_European
3.20% Indian
16.27% NW_European
2.82% Turkic
0.75% Mongol
0.03% Papuan
0.50% NE_Asian

Who are you referring to by non-turks? Halgurd maybe? I don’t know who he used for Turkic references but if it’s Turkmen then you are wrong. Kurds are genetically closer to Turkmen than you are to Turkmen. If you don’t believe me go to Vahuuado dodecad k12b and check your distance to Turkmen vs Kurds to Turkmen. I’d also be curious what G25 shows you/kurds to Turkmen distance

[Zoro]

Do not take this trashy calculator seriously. Even Non Turks score more Turkic than full blooded Turks like me.

27.65% SE_European
25.61% W_Asian
0.48% SE_Asian
0.20% SSA
22.48% NE_European
3.20% Indian
16.27% NW_European
2.82% Turkic
0.75% Mongol
0.03% Papuan
0.50% NE_Asian

Running the G25 is not rocket science. Even I'm able to do it :D


Here are the distances to Turkmen from Davidski's G25 on Vahaduo. Try to beat the Kurdish distance to Turkmen buddy. Next time think before talking shit about something.



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Distance to:
Turkmen


0.00624797
Turkmen_Uzbekistan


0.01166052
Uzbek


0.01617197
Hazara_Afghanistan


0.01682701
Hazara


0.01754986
Uygur


0.01834666
Turkish_South


0.01975666
Tajik


0.02032516
Turkish_Balikesir


0.02075489
Turkish_Northwest


0.02133282
Turkish_Aydin


0.02143527
Turkish_Southwest


0.02207421
Nogai


0.02218186
Turkish_North


0.02264216
Turkish_Adana


0.02303815
Azeri


0.02366432
Turkish_Central


0.02411866
Azeri_Dagestan


0.02417789
Karakalpak


0.02436043
Turkish_Istanbul



0.02496750
Turkish_Kayseri


0.02561751

Ezid



0.02601250
Iranian_Fars


0.02652965
Iranian_Zoroastrian


0.02672191
Tatar_Lipka


0.02703166
Azeri_Turkey


0.02706502
Iranian_Seyyed


0.02725395
Talysh_Azerbaijan


0.02766305
Tajik_Yagnobi


0.02771281
Kazakh


0.02799651

Kurdish


0.02830606
Turkish_Balkans



0.02842752
Kumyk


0.02846973
Parsi_Pakistan


0.02871734
Iranian_Lor


0.02893640
Parsi_India


0.02920500
Tajik_Rushan


0.02955041
Tajik_Ishkashim


0.02970553
Tajik_Shugnan


0.02998713
Bashkir


0.03084460
Tatar_Siberian


0.03233167
Assyrian


0.03242595
Kirghiz_China


0.03255261
Iranian_Mazandarani


0.03274287
Georgian_Jew


0.03296026
Armenian


0.03320870
Syrian


0.03369733
Mountain_Jew_Chechnya


0.03371073
Kirghiz


0.03390386
Tatar_Kazan


0.03461384
Ashkenazi_Lithuania


0.03471048
Ashkenazi_Russia


0.03474029
Ashkenazi_Belarussia


0.03494450
Ashkenazi_Ukraine


0.03500790
Gagauz


0.03501707
Kabardin


0.03505518
Kazakh_China


0.03518811
Kho_Singanali


0.03520593
Iranian_Jew


0.03534566
Tabasaran


0.03542192
Uthmankhel


0.03553358
Ashkenazi_Poland


0.03613195
Iranian_Bandari


0.03618768
Pashtun


0.03621227
Greek_Crete


0.03629382
Burusho


0.03644925
Lebanese_Muslim


0.03649914
Tarkalani


0.03678248
Karachay


0.03685245
Roma_Granada


0.03689506
Cherkes


0.03691178
Moldovan


0.03705391
Roma_Balkans


0.03709101
Syrian_Jew


0.03722055
Circassian


0.03725767
Yusufzai


0.03747556
Druze


0.03763483
Tatar_Mishar


0.03766476
Bulgarian


0.03780566
Lebanese_Druze


0.03780740
Roma_Madrid


0.03784256
Italian_Abruzzo


0.03788900
Avar


0.03790772
Greek_Kos


0.03796277
Greek_Izmir


0.03802364
Greek_Central_Anatolia


0.03809882
Balkar


0.03829054
Ashkenazi_Germany


0.03841064
Roma_Bilbao


0.03858996
Romanian


0.03864586
Italian_Campania


0.03868718
Italian_Molise


0.03868844
Kaitag


0.03868873
Abazin


0.03871504
Italian_Basilicata


0.03873765
Roma_Barcelona


0.03884555
Greek_Thessaly


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Ezid are also Kurds. I'm by no means endorsing G25. In fact the opposite, I do see some issues with the distances for some of these popultions

[Insuperable]

Where the fuck is this calculator?

[knez01]

Southeast European
34.01%
West Asian
12.59%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.46%
Northeast European
37.80%
Indian
0.00%
Northwest European
11.67%
Turkic
3.28%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.18%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

[Zoro]

The above is for population averages. Keep in mind that there are Kurds probably even my family members that are even closer to Turkmen than the Kurdish average above. I can't show you our distances because we didn't do G25

[Insuperable]

I see. It is DIY and not on gedmatch.

[Hapanuwa]

Where the fuck is this calculator?

https://yourdnaportal.com/yourgeneticancestry

[Halgurd]

lol i score more Turkic than some Turks

[Zoro]

lol i score more Turkic than some Turks

Which Turks. Kaspias scored more than you.

[Impaler]

Turkic 4.26%
Northeast Asian 0.19%
Southeast Asian 0.15%
= 4.60% :D

[Halgurd]

Which Turks. Kaspias scored more than you.

There’s another k11 thread
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195528-How-T%FCrkic-are-you-Post-your-Turkic-K11-results

[Zoro]

There’s another k11 thread
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195528-How-T%FCrkic-are-you-Post-your-Turkic-K11-results

You had over 6%. Kaspias had over 9% I believe. It is quite normal for you as a Sorani Kurd from Iraq to have more Central Asian Turkic than some Turks from Turkey. Some will have more some will have less than you. Just like on 23andme you had 2.2% Central Asian whereas some Turks from Turkey get less than that with 23andme.

Personally I'm not a huge fan of Gedmatch , 23andme and other admixture calculators because one never knows how much the other components are hiding Central Asian admixture.

[Impaler]

Charles Bronson, the Turkish member has the highest Turkic I have seen here:

14.56% SE_European
38.77% W_Asian
0.00% SE_Asian
0.00% SSA
14.60% NE_European
4.48% Indian
0.02% NW_European
21.20% Turkic
5.10% Mongol
0.00% Papuan
1.27% NE_Asian

[Dr_Maul]

I didn't include Papuan the first time I posted but since some other people did I am 4.2% including Turkic+NE Asian+Papuan

[Thracian]

Run puntDNAL K13 and HarappaWorld on GEDmatch and send me your results over PM if you don't want to post them. Mixed populations too!

Sent you.

[Thracian]

All it does is it measures your genetic affinity to Central Asian Turks.

Yeah but it doesn't work for me in this one.

[Kyp]

this thread turned cancerous

[Thracian]

Who are you referring to by non-turks? Halgurd maybe? I don’t know who he used for Turkic references but if it’s Turkmen then you are wrong. Kurds are genetically closer to Turkmen than you are to Turkmen. If you don’t believe me go to Vahuuado dodecad k12b and check your distance to Turkmen vs Kurds to Turkmen. I’d also be curious what G25 shows you/kurds to Turkmen distance

No, I was not referring him. I was talking about the other thread. It is not, as far as I remember, they were Kyrgyzs and Uyghurs. I compared for you (scaled one),

Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.17152208 Turkmen
0.18163598 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Distance to: Kurdish
0.17261977 Turkmen
0.18249076 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[Chris596]

this thread turned cancerous

Why? I think it's okay to discuss this.

[Babak]

this thread turned cancerous

Doesnt every thread lol

[altaic]

Honestly, I wouldn't take this calculator serious. G25 and gedmatch are much more reliable

Yes Dilawer`s calculators are not good. G25 and GedMatch is more trustable

[altaic]

Do not take this trashy calculator seriously. Even Non Turks score more Turkic than full blooded Turks like me.

27.65% SE_European
25.61% W_Asian
0.48% SE_Asian
0.20% SSA
22.48% NE_European
3.20% Indian
16.27% NW_European
2.82% Turkic
0.75% Mongol
0.03% Papuan
0.50% NE_Asian

Your total East Eurasian is 4.58% which is again slightly less than mine. Yes this calculator is not good but East Eurasian correlates with GEDMatch somehow.
Hapanuwa is around 16%, Kaspias around 13%, I am around 5%, Kökeny is around 5% etc... So kind of similar to their GEDMatch results.

[Mejgusu]

Doesnt every thread lol

Lol but sometimes it’s interesting, i think some just make fun of „scoring turkic“...

[altaic]

Charles Bronson, the Turkish member has the highest Turkic I have seen here:

14.56% SE_European
38.77% W_Asian
0.00% SE_Asian
0.00% SSA
14.60% NE_European
4.48% Indian
0.02% NW_European
21.20% Turkic
5.10% Mongol
0.00% Papuan
1.27% NE_Asian

He has Japonic&Koreanic&Manchurian Y-DNA (O-M176) hablogroup.

[Impaler]

He has Japonic&Koreanic&Manchurian Y-DNA (O-M176) hablogroup.

How is that possible for a Turk?

[Thracian]

Your total East Eurasian is 4.58% which is again slightly less than mine. Yes this calculator is not good but East Eurasian correlates with GEDMatch somehow.
Hapanuwa is around 16%, Kaspias around 13%, I am around 5%, Kökeny is around 5% etc... So kind of similar to their GEDMatch results.

I agree with you, it correlates with regular Gedmatch calculators for us but Chris has lower East Euroasian than both of us, yet he scores more Turkic. He scores East Euroasian 1.64% on Eurogenes K13, I score around 3.5%. Also, as you know Turkic is not 100% East Eurasian.

[altaic]

any molgolian or NE asian?

I guess not. Below is what I shared on the original thread.


K11 Top 3 and Turkic result
Southeast European 20.62%
West Asian 49.77%
Northeast European 15.36%
Turkic 4.78%

[Chris596]

I agree with you, it correlates with regular Gedmatch calculators for us but Chris has lower East Euroasian than both of us, yet he scores more Turkic. He scores East Euroasian 1.64% on Eurogenes K13, I score around 3.5%. Also, as you know Turkic is not 100% East Eurasian.

Maybe it really comes from my Alföld side (Hungarian region) because many Cumans assimilated there in the Middle Ages. Or it could also come from my Székely side. I'm not sure but I can't test my parents for a while.

Also, my closest match on Myheritage is my relative and he scores 2.5% Central-Asian.

[Thracian]

Maybe it really comes from my Alföld side (Hungarian region) because many Cumans assimilated there in the Middle Ages. Or it could also come from my Székely side. I'm not sure but I can't test my parents for a while.

Also, my closest match on Myheritage is my relative and he scores 2.5% Central-Asian.

Both seem possible. Szekely user on TA scores around 3.5% East Eurasian as far as I remember -If I am not mistaken, she was fully Szekely-. I guess, you are half Szekely and your score perfectly fit with it.

[Chris596]

I'm also starting to think that Myheritage rushed with my ancestry report and I should have gotten at least 1-2% Central-Asian. Or I don't know..

[Kaspias]

I'm also starting to think that Myheritage rushed with my ancestry report and I should have gotten at least 1-2% Central-Asian. Or I don't know..

Lol :D

[altaic]

How is that possible for a Turk?

I do not know him and do not see his photo. When I joined the forum, he was already offline member. I see one of his post that he says his Y-DNA is O-M176 . It could be possible based on his Turkic result above. I am actually really curious as well if it is true. I wonder how he looks. Any current forum member knows Turkish member Charles Branson?? I believe some Central Asian Turks can get that hablogroup as well so it is possible I guess...

[Chris596]

Lol :D

I'm not a scientist, okay? Then why is it that almost every Székely (even half Székelys) on YouTube get at least 1% Central-Asian (or Amerindian or EEA) in their ancestry report? I'm just genuinely curious.

[Chris596]

Let's just wait until the next big Myheritage update.

[Chris596]

Can someone also explain to me that why am I closer to a Gagauz or a Turk from Romania, than to a Hungarian??

[altaic]

I'm also starting to think that Myheritage rushed with my ancestry report and I should have gotten at least 1-2% Central-Asian. Or I don't know..

I see you are very enthusiastic about your Turkic components, that is good :) Sometimes appearances does not tell everything. You probably expected more bcz of your appearances. I recommend you try 23andme in the future, if you want some variety. Here in USA, 23andme Ancestry is cheap and you can even find deals on Ebay but it is probably more expensive in Europe I guess. Anyway, you will likely get similar GEDMatch results even if you have 23andme. Take seriously G25 and Gedmatch, not this calculators...

[Kaspias]

I'm not a scientist, okay? Then why is it that almost every Székely (even half Székelys) on YouTube get at least 1% Central-Asian (or Amerindian or EEA) in their ancestry report? I'm just genuinely curious.

You should try to convert your raw data to a legit Gedmatch format. I remember I sent you the tutorial. This is the only thing you can try now.

[Chris596]

I see you are very enthusiastic about your Turkic components, that is good :) Sometimes appearances does not tell everything. You probably expected more bcz of your appearances. I recommend you try 23andme in the future, if you want some variety. Here in USA, 23andme Ancestry is cheap and you can even find deals on Ebay but it is probably more expensive in Europe I guess. Anyway, you will likely get similar GEDMatch results even if you have 23andme. Take seriously G25 and Gedmatch, not this calculators...

Yes and I also find it weird that I'm almost 100% Balkan. I mean, it turned out that I really have south-slavic ancestors from my mother's side and that explains a lot.

But my father? I got 95% Balkan ancestry. It means that he himself should be also somewhere between 90-100% Balkan. Or am I missing something here?... Mr.G also pointed out that not am I only distant from a Hungarian, but even from a Székely. Vahaduo genetic distance calculations only worked properly with south-slavic populations in my case (this is how Balkanic I am).

[altaic]

Try converting to proper versions as Kaspias suggested earlier. When I was new on the forum, I had V5 23andme result which has low SNP`s and Leto recommended me to convert them to V3 which has much more SNP counts. I did it. For example, I was getting 3.xx something % Turkic with V5 results on this K11 calculator. After I converted to V3, I was getting 4.78% Turkic. Convert to proper one (I do not know your DNA company), Kaspias should know the details. Again, it will change +-1% for some of your components, do not expect to get 10% Turkic suddenly :D

[Mingle]

I get 7.14% but in my case its cause I have DNA related to Turks (since they're heavily mixed with Iranics).

I think most Europeans get minor Turkic on that calculator. Since you score more than most other Hungarians, it could be real, but its still pretty small. Also I don't really think its that good of a calculator.

[Chris596]

You should try to convert your raw data to a legit Gedmatch format. I remember I sent you the tutorial. This is the only thing you can try now.


Try converting to proper versions as Kaspias suggested earlier. When I was new on the forum, I had V5 23andme result which has low SNP`s and Leto recommended me to convert them to V3 which has much more SNP counts. I did it. For example, I was getting 3.xx something % Turkic with V5 results on this K11 calculator. After I converted to V3, I was getting 4.78% Turkic. Convert to proper one (I do not know your DNA company), Kaspias should know the details. Again, it will change +-1% for some of your components, do not expect to get 10% Turkic suddenly :D

Okay, then I have a new task to do for tomorrow.

[Friedrich Ulrich]

i cannot access the acount anymore. i'm not sure if they deleted them or what happened cause even the one i made for my mom i cannot access anymore. it denyes my passwords.i think i posted the results on a k11 thread before. as far as i remember my turkic was 0% but i have high mongolian and NE asian..around 7% i think.

My mother central asian(andronovo turanid) and i got 0 mongoloid on my dna, central asia not mixed with mongols fully or halfly.In kazakhistan mongolo turanid persentage limited with %27 but in Kyrgzistan this persentage %33.

[Mingle]

Yes and I also find it weird that I'm almost 100% Balkan. I mean, it turned out that I really have south-slavic ancestors from my mother's side and that explains a lot.

Was this confirmed? Or are you saying this based on your DNA results? Being southern shifted doesn't automatically mean you have South Slavic ancestors.


Can someone also explain to me that why am I closer to a Gagauz or a Turk from Romania, than to a Hungarian??

The Gagauz are language shifters and have 0 Turkic DNA. They're basically pure Balkanites genetically (similar to Romanians and Bulgarians).

[altaic]

I get 7.14% but in my case its cause I have DNA related to Turks (since they're heavily mixed with Iranics).

I think most Europeans get minor Turkic on that calculator. Since you score more than most other Hungarians, it could be real, but its still pretty small. Also I don't really think its that good of a calculator.

Yes, I look the original thread. Some members from Europe who has <1% East Eurasion on GEDMatch has 2-3% Turkic results on this K11. You probably has some Central Asian roots. Do you get around 5-6% East Eurasian on GEDMatch? I have never seen your GEDMatches. Can I see Harappa,Dodecad or MDLP of yours, any link if you shared here earlier?

[Chris596]

Was this confirmed? Or are you saying this based on your DNA results? Being southern shifted doesn't automatically mean you have South Slavic ancestors.



The Gagauz are language shifters and have 0 Turkic DNA. They're basically pure Balkanites genetically (similar to Romanians and Bulgarians).

I officially found this out today when I contacted my closest Myheritage DNA match. He sent me many birth certificates, dating all the way back to the early 19th century. Very likely Serbians, based on their names. I think I'm going to contact one of my other closest matches, who is a Russian based on his name. I don't know what to think.

Edit: Russian/Ukrainian

[Leto]

I think I'm going to contact one of my other closest matches, who is a Russian based on his name. I don't know what to think.
Borovaya?

[Friedrich Ulrich]

And im gonna post Classification of mom u can check my thread later.

[Chris596]

Borovaya?

That was a name in one of our birth certificates, yes. But that person has another name on Myheritage. We share 0.6% of our DNA which is quite a lot. Basically my second closest match.

Edit: On Forebears it also says that surname (which I can't tell you now) is mostly found in Russia .

Approximately 1,132 people bear this surname

MOST PREVALENT IN:
Russia
HIGHEST DENSITY IN:
Russia

[Zoro]

No, I was not referring him. I was talking about the other thread. It is not, as far as I remember, they were Kyrgyzs and Uyghurs. I compared for you (scaled one),

Distance to: Thracian_scaled
0.17152208 Turkmen
0.18163598 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Distance to: Kurdish
0.17261977 Turkmen
0.18249076 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

G25 is really funky. So here is unscaled. Notice Ezdi which are basically Kurds with less E Asian admixture are closer to Turkmen. That's why I don't like G25. I'm posting Dodecad k12b since that's a popular one here. The results make more sense than G25.

First G25 unscaled

Distance to: Turkmen
0.00624797 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.01166052 Uzbek
0.01617197 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.01682701 Hazara
0.01754986 Uygur
0.01834666 Turkish_South
0.01975666 Tajik
0.02032516 Turkish_Balikesir
0.02075489 Turkish_Northwest
0.02133282 Turkish_Aydin
0.02143527 Turkish_Southwest
0.02207421 Nogai
0.02218186 Turkish_North
0.02264216 Turkish_Adana
0.02303815 Azeri
0.02366432 Turkish_Central
0.02411866 Azeri_Dagestan
0.02417789 Karakalpak
0.02436043 Turkish_Istanbul
0.02496750 Turkish_Kayseri
0.02561751
Ezid
0.02601250 Iranian_Fars
0.02652965 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.02672191 Tatar_Lipka
0.02703166 Azeri_Turkey
0.02706502 Iranian_Seyyed
0.02725395 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.02766305 Tajik_Yagnobi
0.02771281 Kazakh
0.02799651 Kurdish
0.02830606 Turkish_Balkans
0.02842752 Kumyk
0.02846973 Parsi_Pakistan
0.02871734 Iranian_Lor
0.02893640 Parsi_India
0.02920500 Tajik_Rushan
0.02955041 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.02970553 Tajik_Shugnan
0.02998713 Bashkir
0.03084460 Tatar_Siberian
0.03233167 Assyrian
0.03242595 Kirghiz_China
0.03255261 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.03274287 Georgian_Jew
0.03296026 Armenian
0.03320870 Syrian
0.03369733 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.03371073 Kirghiz
0.03390386 Tatar_Kazan
0.03461384 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.03471048 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.03474029 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.03494450 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.03500790 Gagauz
0.03501707 Kabardin
0.03505518 Kazakh_China
0.03518811 Kho_Singanali
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0.03534566 Tabasaran
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0.04804995 Mordovian
0.04841169 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04848601 French_Occitanie
0.04872545 Gujar_Pakistan
0.04877879 Spanish_Baleares
0.04884907 Dutch
0.04900662 Spanish_Penedes
0.04906756 French_Brittany
0.04938268 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04946773 Shor
0.04953200 Spanish_Extremadura
0.04958233 Brahui


Now for Dodecad k12b. Notice how close Kurds are to Turkmen. G25 maybe good for clustering you with your native population because it has a zillion samples but I wouldn't use it for percentages. Remember oracles and admixture percentages are 2 different things.

You can have a great percentage calculator and shitty oracles because the builder didn't bother running too many populations.
You can also have a shitty percentage calculator but great oracles because there are a zillion samples.

Everyone is confusing the 2 here. They are looking at the Gedrosia calculators oracles and automatically assuming the calculator is no good when in fact the calculator is better for percentages than the other but Dilawer just didn't take the time to build a good averages spreadsheet for oracles. I don't think he first intended to have oracles with his calculators.


Dodecad K12b updated spreadsheet

How to use? - Instruction

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WARNING! Number of white-space characters removed in SOURCE data: 18.
Distance to: Turkmens
4.30758633 Turkmen_Iran
7.24628871 Iran_Khorasan
11.99233505 Iran_Central_East
12.20803424 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
13.65965226 Iranian_Fars
15.25325867 Yagnobi
15.37138250 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.37199727 Tajiks
15.43114707 Azerbaijani
15.58185804 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
16.02548907 Iranians
16.03498987 AFG_Tajik
16.18370477 Iranian
16.19860796 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
16.26059347 Iran_Mazandaran
16.26494082 Yoruk
16.34937308 Parsi_India
16.52964609 Iran_Bandari
16.62310741 Azerbaijani_Turkey
17.27032715 Lur_Iran
17.35900055 Talysh_Azerbaijan
17.41833230 Kurd
17.43126501 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.72758021 Qumuq
17.79102864 Kurd_Sorani
17.87209557 Turk_Southeast
18.05622884 Turk_South
18.29610614 AFG_Pashtun
18.71175032 Turkmen_Iraq
18.96405020 Zaza
19.06964342 Turk_Southwest
19.31108749 Turk_Anatolia
19.53703150 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
19.85647250 Turk_Northwest
19.94965664 Turk_Central_West
20.09631807 Tabasaran
20.12394345 Turk_Central_East
20.19698740 Avar
20.21751716 Pamiri_Tajik
20.47444749 Avar_Dagestan
20.58610939 Ingush
20.85820942 Turk_West_BlackSea
21.34811936 Uzbek
21.51337259 Lak
21.53439342 Dargin
21.57696225 Karachay
22.01695483 Chechen
22.30210080 Balkar
22.58562153 Kumyks
22.97033304 Nogais
23.33453664 Turk_East
23.92701611 Circassian
24.19240377 Ossetian
24.54029747 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
25.15536325 Uzbekistan_Jews
25.25510443 Lezgins
27.15060957 Armenian_East
28.07197535 Kalash
28.50668167 Turk_Ahiska
28.82941727 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
29.17636029 Assyrian
29.50526733 Armenian_West
29.87779778 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
30.38432491 Nusayri_Turkey
31.32976380 Pathan
31.42286270 Lebanese
31.44188767 Azerbaijan_Jews
31.58173998 Iranian_Jews
31.67208708 Georgia_Jews
31.85795191 Turk_East_Black_Sea
32.06334823 Greek_Cappadocia
32.22518115 Assyrian
32.30041021 Greek_Crete
32.31772114 Hazara
32.56319088 Syrians
32.71419111 Iraq_Jews
32.93746954 Georgian_Svan
33.03464545 Turk_Bulgaria
33.06424504 Uygur
33.06684593 Burusho
33.22013396 Hemshin
33.25815732 Italy_Apulia
33.45663312 North_Ossetians
33.49456822 Georgian_Turkey
33.50910921 Greek_Pontus
33.58678758 Balkars
33.58986157 Georgian_Gurian
33.62540557 Adygei
33.62746050 Turk_Greece
33.63488962 Turk_Romania
33.67489569 Georgian_Adjara
33.70844701 Laz
33.77890000 Italy_Sicily
34.05248009 Georgian_Imereti
34.29514484 Italy_Calabria
34.44491690 Jordanians
34.59118240 Turk_Macedonia
34.92871560 Italy_Abruzzo
35.20504347 Italy_Campania
35.22377464 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
35.32748080 Georgian_Mingrelian
36.47369189 Ashkenazy_Jews
36.49886300 Karakalpak
36.51015064 Sephardic_Jews
36.75820181 Druze
37.20668891 R.Moldova_Gagauz
37.49093624 Ashkenazi
37.61196485 Morocco_Jews
37.67026432 Italy_Lazio
37.77090944 Palestinian
37.95847731 Gagauz
38.23184144 Cypriots
38.32720052 Greek
38.46074334 Italy_Marche
39.32231809 Albanian_Kosovo
39.41356492 R.Moldova_South
40.28226533 Pomak
40.31697657 Bashkir
40.44160729 Albanian_North
40.45112483 Jatt
40.46814920 Italy_Romagna
41.16889967 Bulgarian
41.47148418 Egyptans
41.67476455 Macedonian
41.73520816 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
41.75390161 Yemenese
42.37593975 Italy_Tuscany
42.38308979 Romanians
42.75856405 Makrani
42.90399166 Bulgarians
43.14002086 Kazakh
43.23559148 Italy_Emilia
43.43009556 Montenegrin
43.56664206 Sindhi
43.68337098 Tatar_Kazan
43.88333852 Samaritians
44.25916217 Italy_Liguria
44.34612718 Italy_FriuliVG
44.60076721 France_Corsica
44.74486732 Italy_Veneto
44.82269849 Abhkasians
44.96988616 Italy_Piedmont
45.31986981 Serb
45.68136163 Balochi
45.68921098 Kyrgyz
45.93968110 R.Moldova_Centre+North
46.37011427 Italy_Lombardy
46.56660069 Bedouin

[Leto]

That was a name in one of our birth certificates, yes. But that person has another name on Myheritage. We share 0.6% of our DNA which is quite a lot. Basically my second closest match.
That's the female form actually. Male would be Borovoy. I wish that person was on Gedmatch, maybe you can suggest she upload.

[Leto]

That was a name in one of our birth certificates, yes. But that person has another name on Myheritage. We share 0.6% of our DNA which is quite a lot. Basically my second closest match.
That's the female form actually. Male would be Borovoy. I wish that person was on Gedmatch, maybe you can suggest she upload.

[Turul Karom]

I get 7.14% but in my case its cause I have DNA related to Turks (since they're heavily mixed with Iranics).

I think most Europeans get minor Turkic on that calculator. Since you score more than most other Hungarians, it could be real, but its still pretty small. Also I don't really think its that good of a calculator.

Many Hungarians score above 4%; the results of Chris596 are very close to my own.

[Chris596]

That's the female form actually. Male would be Borovoy. I wish that person was on Gedmatch, maybe you can suggest she upload.

Oh okay, thanks for the info.

[Turul Karom]

Oh okay, thanks for the info.

Have you (or anyone you know) tried "my true ancestry"? I would be very interested in your results.

I just tried it, and I matched with a Hungarian conqueror grave on it (Karos III, 96% higher than other users) and many Scythians, plus Germanics. I might make a thread about it. Just took lots of screenshots.

Here are the graves they used for their Conquering Hungarian sources:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337189359_Y-chromosome_haplogroups_from_Hun_Avar_and_conquerin g_Hungarian_period_nomadic_people_of_the_Carpathia n_Basin

[Chris596]

Have you (or anyone you know) tried "my true ancestry"? I would be very interested in your results.

I just tried it, and I matched with a Hungarian conqueror grave on it (Karos III, 96% higher than other users) and many Scythians, plus Germanics. I might make a thread about it. Just took lots of screenshots.

Here are the graves they used for their Conquering Hungarian sources:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337189359_Y-chromosome_haplogroups_from_Hun_Avar_and_conquerin g_Hungarian_period_nomadic_people_of_the_Carpathia n_Basin

Yes :) I created a separate thread about it. I think you should really see it and tell me your opinion please.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?321850-My-LivingDNA-results-Mytrueancestry-results

[Mingle]

Yes, I look the original thread. Some members from Europe who has <1% East Eurasion on GEDMatch has 2-3% Turkic results on this K11. You probably has some Central Asian roots. Do you get around 5-6% East Eurasian on GEDMatch? I have never seen your GEDMatches. Can I see Harappa,Dodecad or MDLP of yours, any link if you shared here earlier?

I have some EE but its not significant. Its pretty minor and likely entirely from Indo-Iranians (unlikely they were 0% East Eurasian).

Dodecad K12b

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 36.73
2 South_Asian 21.62
3 Caucasus 18.9
4 North_European 15.57
5 Southwest_Asian 3.1
6 Atlantic_Med 1.97
7 Southeast_Asian 1.35
8 Siberian 0.59
9 East_Asian 0.17

HarappaWorld

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.1
2 Caucasian 21.58
3 S-Indian 21.43
4 NE-Euro 13.7
5 SW-Asian 2.46
6 NE-Asian 1.59
7 Mediterranean 0.67
8 American 0.52
9 Siberian 0.46
10 Beringian 0.26
11 Papuan 0.22

MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 35.11
2 South_Indian 25.16
3 Caucasian 19.62
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.32
5 Ancestral_Altaic 6.75
6 Near_East 3.4
7 Amerindian 0.96
8 Melano_Polynesian 0.84
9 Arctic 0.45
10 Archaic_African 0.33
11 Subsaharian 0.05
12 Archaic_Human 0.01

[Kaspias]

0.6% Shared DNA should indicate a real relativity connection, isn't it? I'm asking because I have a similar case yet I don't know how is it possible.

[Mingle]

Many Hungarians score above 4%; the results of Chris596 are very close to my own.

I also saw a Croat here with 3-4% Turkic. I don't think this calculator is good at detecting Turkic admixture. You'd probably have to use G25 for that or look at the components that Turks could've brought on certain calculators (e.g. Siberian, South Asian, etc).

[Turul Karom]

Yes :) I created a separate thread about it. I think you should really see it and tell me your opinion please.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?321850-My-LivingDNA-results-Mytrueancestry-results

Very interesting results!

What grave did they say you matched from the study? I only have Karos III genetically matched.

It is obvious you have a connection with the Conquering Hungarians and that your Balkan is recent. It is very easy to see; your results are just like my own. We are different in this way:

We both match with Hungarian conquerors but my genetic line went Germanic-shifted while yours went Balkan-shifted; 1000+ years in the Carpathian Basin will do this to most families after settling.

[Chris596]

0.6% Shared DNA should indicate a real relativity connection, isn't it? I'm asking because I have a similar case yet I don't know how is it possible.

I think you should give it a try. Maybe this also explains why my father looks so Russian-like. (Leto knows what I'm talking about)

[Thracian]

G25 is really funky. So here is unscaled. Notice Ezdi which are basically Kurds with less E Asian admixture are closer to Turkmen. That's why I don't like G25. I'm posting Dodecad k12b since that's a popular one here. The results make more sense than G25.

First G25 unscaled

Distance to: Turkmen
0.00624797 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.01166052 Uzbek
0.01617197 Hazara_Afghanistan
0.01682701 Hazara
0.01754986 Uygur
0.01834666 Turkish_South
0.01975666 Tajik
0.02032516 Turkish_Balikesir
0.02075489 Turkish_Northwest
0.02133282 Turkish_Aydin
0.02143527 Turkish_Southwest
0.02207421 Nogai
0.02218186 Turkish_North
0.02264216 Turkish_Adana
0.02303815 Azeri
0.02366432 Turkish_Central
0.02411866 Azeri_Dagestan
0.02417789 Karakalpak
0.02436043 Turkish_Istanbul
0.02496750 Turkish_Kayseri
0.02561751
Ezid
0.02601250 Iranian_Fars
0.02652965 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.02672191 Tatar_Lipka
0.02703166 Azeri_Turkey
0.02706502 Iranian_Seyyed
0.02725395 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.02766305 Tajik_Yagnobi
0.02771281 Kazakh
0.02799651 Kurdish
0.02830606 Turkish_Balkans
0.02842752 Kumyk
0.02846973 Parsi_Pakistan
0.02871734 Iranian_Lor
0.02893640 Parsi_India
0.02920500 Tajik_Rushan
0.02955041 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.02970553 Tajik_Shugnan
0.02998713 Bashkir
0.03084460 Tatar_Siberian
0.03233167 Assyrian
0.03242595 Kirghiz_China
0.03255261 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.03274287 Georgian_Jew
0.03296026 Armenian
0.03320870 Syrian
0.03369733 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.03371073 Kirghiz
0.03390386 Tatar_Kazan
0.03461384 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.03471048 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.03474029 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.03494450 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.03500790 Gagauz
0.03501707 Kabardin
0.03505518 Kazakh_China
0.03518811 Kho_Singanali
0.03520593 Iranian_Jew
0.03534566 Tabasaran
0.03542192 Uthmankhel
0.03553358 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.03613195 Iranian_Bandari
0.03618768 Pashtun
0.03621227 Greek_Crete
0.03629382 Burusho
0.03644925 Lebanese_Muslim
0.03649914 Tarkalani
0.03678248 Karachay
0.03685245 Roma_Granada
0.03689506 Cherkes
0.03691178 Moldovan
0.03705391 Roma_Balkans
0.03709101 Syrian_Jew
0.03722055 Circassian
0.03725767 Yusufzai
0.03747556 Druze
0.03763483 Tatar_Mishar
0.03766476 Bulgarian
0.03780566 Lebanese_Druze
0.03780740 Roma_Madrid
0.03784256 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03788900 Avar
0.03790772 Greek_Kos
0.03796277 Greek_Izmir
0.03802364 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.03809882 Balkar
0.03829054 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.03841064 Roma_Bilbao
0.03858996 Romanian
0.03864586 Italian_Campania
0.03868718 Italian_Molise
0.03868844 Kaitag
0.03868873 Abazin
0.03871504 Italian_Basilicata
0.03873765 Roma_Barcelona
0.03884555 Greek_Thessaly
0.03892058 Italian_Apulia
0.03906746 Karaite_Egypt
0.03919967 Cypriot
0.03921113 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03921820 Ingushian
0.03927572 Roma_Porto
0.03929210 Iraqi_Jew
0.03929500 Maltese
0.03938374 Italian_Marche
0.03961139 Turkish_Trabzon
0.03967950 Lak
0.03980377 Chechen
0.03991300 Macedonian
0.03999987 Italian_Lazio
0.04001129 Sephardic_Jew
0.04003122 Italian_Calabria
0.04012405 Greek_Trabzon
0.04012875 Kamboj
0.04013056 Italian_Umbria
0.04014197 Sicilian_West
0.04023163 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.04061446 Italian_Jew
0.04084455 Austrian
0.04087799 Italian_Northeast
0.04089012 Swiss_Italian
0.04095489 Romaniote_Jew
0.04097469 Montenegrin
0.04098208 Greek_Peloponnese
0.04100332 Serbian
0.04121819 Italian_Tuscany
0.04123198 Italian_Piedmont
0.04128212 Sicilian_East
0.04155028 Ror
0.04176672 Darginian
0.04186902 Kohistani
0.04191199 Jordanian
0.04204925 Albanian
0.04214312 Hungarian
0.04217476 Lebanese_Christian
0.04218991 Kalash
0.04220830 Croatian
0.04278507 Kubachinian
0.04281534 Italian_Veneto
0.04284967 Khakass_Kachins
0.04289489 Jatt_Pathak
0.04297975 Bosnian
0.04344857 French_Alsace
0.04346714 Kashmiri_Pandit
0.04351828 North_Ossetian
0.04353593 Bahun
0.04357884 Slovenian
0.04359084 Besermyan
0.04368487 Altaian
0.04373115 Tubalar
0.04376987 Adygei
0.04384140 French_Provence
0.04397878 Palestinian
0.04425321 Khatri
0.04426585 Italian_Liguria
0.04429976 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04436830 German
0.04446702 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04451326 Khakass
0.04472840 French_Nord
0.04473792 Libyan_Jew
0.04485518 Georgian_Laz
0.04489059 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04501692 Komi
0.04505412 German_East
0.04522053 Italian_Bergamo
0.04529245 Afrikaner
0.04532786 Swiss_German
0.04538273 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04551793 Tunisian_Jew
0.04556530 Belgian
0.04556812 Kalmyk
0.04567630 Moroccan_Jew
0.04574502 Punjabi_Jatt
0.04582058 Czech
0.04582453 Italian_Lombardy
0.04636655 Mongolian
0.04662523 Moldovan_o
0.04667174 Sindhi
0.04716213 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04721126 Swiss_French
0.04721336 Ossetian
0.04732861 French_Corsica
0.04765864 French_Auvergne
0.04767989 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04801414 Slovakian
0.04803226 BedouinA
0.04804292 French_Paris
0.04804995 Mordovian
0.04841169 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04848601 French_Occitanie
0.04872545 Gujar_Pakistan
0.04877879 Spanish_Baleares
0.04884907 Dutch
0.04900662 Spanish_Penedes
0.04906756 French_Brittany
0.04938268 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04946773 Shor
0.04953200 Spanish_Extremadura
0.04958233 Brahui


Now for Dodecad k12b. Notice how close Kurds are to Turkmen. G25 maybe good for clustering you with your native population because it has a zillion samples but I wouldn't use it for percentages. Remember oracles and admixture percentages are 2 different things.

You can have a great percentage calculator and shitty oracles because the builder didn't bother running too many populations.
You can also have a shitty percentage calculator but great oracles because there are a zillion samples.

Everyone is confusing the 2 here. They are looking at the Gedrosia calculators oracles and automatically assuming the calculator is no good when in fact the calculator is better for percentages than the other but Dilawer just didn't take the time to build a good averages spreadsheet for oracles. I don't think he first intended to have oracles with his calculators.


Dodecad K12b updated spreadsheet

How to use? - Instruction

Return to home page - Start
WARNING! Number of white-space characters removed in SOURCE data: 18.
Distance to: Turkmens
4.30758633 Turkmen_Iran
7.24628871 Iran_Khorasan
11.99233505 Iran_Central_East
12.20803424 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
13.65965226 Iranian_Fars
15.25325867 Yagnobi
15.37138250 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.37199727 Tajiks
15.43114707 Azerbaijani
15.58185804 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
16.02548907 Iranians
16.03498987 AFG_Tajik
16.18370477 Iranian
16.19860796 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
16.26059347 Iran_Mazandaran
16.26494082 Yoruk
16.34937308 Parsi_India
16.52964609 Iran_Bandari
16.62310741 Azerbaijani_Turkey
17.27032715 Lur_Iran
17.35900055 Talysh_Azerbaijan
17.41833230 Kurd
17.43126501 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.72758021 Qumuq
17.79102864 Kurd_Sorani
17.87209557 Turk_Southeast
18.05622884 Turk_South
18.29610614 AFG_Pashtun
18.71175032 Turkmen_Iraq
18.96405020 Zaza
19.06964342 Turk_Southwest
19.31108749 Turk_Anatolia
19.53703150 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
19.85647250 Turk_Northwest
19.94965664 Turk_Central_West
20.09631807 Tabasaran
20.12394345 Turk_Central_East
20.19698740 Avar
20.21751716 Pamiri_Tajik
20.47444749 Avar_Dagestan
20.58610939 Ingush
20.85820942 Turk_West_BlackSea
21.34811936 Uzbek
21.51337259 Lak
21.53439342 Dargin
21.57696225 Karachay
22.01695483 Chechen
22.30210080 Balkar
22.58562153 Kumyks
22.97033304 Nogais
23.33453664 Turk_East
23.92701611 Circassian
24.19240377 Ossetian
24.54029747 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
25.15536325 Uzbekistan_Jews
25.25510443 Lezgins
27.15060957 Armenian_East
28.07197535 Kalash
28.50668167 Turk_Ahiska
28.82941727 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
29.17636029 Assyrian
29.50526733 Armenian_West
29.87779778 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
30.38432491 Nusayri_Turkey
31.32976380 Pathan
31.42286270 Lebanese
31.44188767 Azerbaijan_Jews
31.58173998 Iranian_Jews
31.67208708 Georgia_Jews
31.85795191 Turk_East_Black_Sea
32.06334823 Greek_Cappadocia
32.22518115 Assyrian
32.30041021 Greek_Crete
32.31772114 Hazara
32.56319088 Syrians
32.71419111 Iraq_Jews
32.93746954 Georgian_Svan
33.03464545 Turk_Bulgaria
33.06424504 Uygur
33.06684593 Burusho
33.22013396 Hemshin
33.25815732 Italy_Apulia
33.45663312 North_Ossetians
33.49456822 Georgian_Turkey
33.50910921 Greek_Pontus
33.58678758 Balkars
33.58986157 Georgian_Gurian
33.62540557 Adygei
33.62746050 Turk_Greece
33.63488962 Turk_Romania
33.67489569 Georgian_Adjara
33.70844701 Laz
33.77890000 Italy_Sicily
34.05248009 Georgian_Imereti
34.29514484 Italy_Calabria
34.44491690 Jordanians
34.59118240 Turk_Macedonia
34.92871560 Italy_Abruzzo
35.20504347 Italy_Campania
35.22377464 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
35.32748080 Georgian_Mingrelian
36.47369189 Ashkenazy_Jews
36.49886300 Karakalpak
36.51015064 Sephardic_Jews
36.75820181 Druze
37.20668891 R.Moldova_Gagauz
37.49093624 Ashkenazi
37.61196485 Morocco_Jews
37.67026432 Italy_Lazio
37.77090944 Palestinian
37.95847731 Gagauz
38.23184144 Cypriots
38.32720052 Greek
38.46074334 Italy_Marche
39.32231809 Albanian_Kosovo
39.41356492 R.Moldova_South
40.28226533 Pomak
40.31697657 Bashkir
40.44160729 Albanian_North
40.45112483 Jatt
40.46814920 Italy_Romagna
41.16889967 Bulgarian
41.47148418 Egyptans
41.67476455 Macedonian
41.73520816 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
41.75390161 Yemenese
42.37593975 Italy_Tuscany
42.38308979 Romanians
42.75856405 Makrani
42.90399166 Bulgarians
43.14002086 Kazakh
43.23559148 Italy_Emilia
43.43009556 Montenegrin
43.56664206 Sindhi
43.68337098 Tatar_Kazan
43.88333852 Samaritians
44.25916217 Italy_Liguria
44.34612718 Italy_FriuliVG
44.60076721 France_Corsica
44.74486732 Italy_Veneto
44.82269849 Abhkasians
44.96988616 Italy_Piedmont
45.31986981 Serb
45.68136163 Balochi
45.68921098 Kyrgyz
45.93968110 R.Moldova_Centre+North
46.37011427 Italy_Lombardy
46.56660069 Bedouin

I agree with you. I also do not use G25 with all populations, I just make models with selected samples. That makes more sense than the whole SS.

I am not saying the opposite, we know that Turkmens mixed with Iranic people. And many Kurds also have East Eurasian.

[Zoro]

I also saw a Croat here with 3-4% Turkic. I don't think this calculator is good at detecting Turkic admixture. You'd probably have to use G25 for that or look at the components that Turks could've brought on certain calculators (e.g. Siberian, South Asian, etc).

It's not wise to generalize and fault a calculator for some Croat getting 3-4% Turkic. It's not exactly a shocker. First you don't know what the guy's real history is. He may honestly not even know himself beyond a couple of generations. Who knows if he even used 23andme V3 or V4 data. He may have used 23andme V5 or Ancestrydna or ftdna data which don't have as many markers overlapping with Gedrosia calculators.

The other mistake you are making is that the Central Asian Turkics that migrated to Turkey or Europe were not 100% E. Asian. So they didn't just give Anatolians or Europeans only E. Asian genes. They also gave them their brand of Central Asian and West Asian genes.

I do agree that if you are trying to confirm exactly how much E. Asian you have you should use a different calculator but certainly not a G25 which is contaminated with hundreds of samples that skew the calculations of E. Asian admixture you are seeking.

In fact it's useless to use any calculator above a K3 or K4 for this purpose because no one and I repeat no one knows how much E. Asian is lurking under the other components.

[Leto]

It's not wise to generalize and fault a calculator for some Croat getting 3-4% Turkic. It's not exactly a shocker. First you don't know what the guy's real history is. He may honestly not even know himself beyond a couple of generations. Who knows if he even used 23andme V3 or V4 data. He may have used 23andme V5 or Ancestrydna or ftdna data which don't have as many markers overlapping with Gedrosia calculators.

The other mistake you are making is that the Central Asian Turkics that migrated to Turkey or Europe were not 100% E. Asian. So they didn't just give Anatolians or Europeans only E. Asian genes. They also gave them their brand of Central Asian and West Asian genes.

I do agree that if you are trying to confirm exactly how much E. Asian you have you should use a different calculator but certainly not a G25 which is contaminated with hundreds of samples that skew the calculations of E. Asian admixture you are seeking.

In fact it's useless to use any calculator above a K3 or K4 for this purpose because no one and I repeat no one knows how much E. Asian is lurking under the other components.
Here we go again. You repeat the same thoughts over and over again.

[Zoro]

I have some EE but its not significant. Its pretty minor and likely entirely from Indo-Iranians (unlikely they were 0% East Eurasian).

Dodecad K12b

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 36.73
2 South_Asian 21.62
3 Caucasus 18.9
4 North_European 15.57
5 Southwest_Asian 3.1
6 Atlantic_Med 1.97
7 Southeast_Asian 1.35
8 Siberian 0.59
9 East_Asian 0.17

HarappaWorld

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.1
2 Caucasian 21.58
3 S-Indian 21.43
4 NE-Euro 13.7
5 SW-Asian 2.46
6 NE-Asian 1.59
7 Mediterranean 0.67
8 American 0.52
9 Siberian 0.46
10 Beringian 0.26
11 Papuan 0.22

MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 35.11
2 South_Indian 25.16
3 Caucasian 19.62
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.32
5 Ancestral_Altaic 6.75
6 Near_East 3.4
7 Amerindian 0.96
8 Melano_Polynesian 0.84
9 Arctic 0.45
10 Archaic_African 0.33
11 Subsaharian 0.05
12 Archaic_Human 0.01


From what I see you have plenty of EE. You score 21% S. Indian !! Do you think S. Indian is 100% W. Eurasian? I hope not

[Luke35]

Okay, then I have a new task to do for tomorrow.

I think someone coverted IrisSelene's data which then achieved higher snps and resulted in her shifting quite noticeably on the K15 and other plots. Seems like a worthwhile thing to do.

[Chris596]

Very interesting results!

What grave did they say you matched from the study? I only have Karos III genetically matched.

It is obvious you have a connection with the Conquering Hungarians and that your Balkan is recent. It is very easy to see; your results are just like my own. We are different in this way:

We both match with Hungarian conquerors but my genetic line went Germanic-shifted while yours went Balkan-shifted; 1000+ years in the Carpathian Basin will do this to most families after settling.

Thank you! Yes, it actually gave me some hope when I saw that I match Hungarian conquerors :D
You showed me a new perspective to look at my ancestry. I'm also fascinated by your results.

These are my closest results:
http://imgur.com/a/pJXjkm7

[Chris596]

I think someone coverted IrisSelene's data which then achieved higher snps and resulted in her shifting quite noticeably on the K15 and other plots. Seems like a worthwhile thing to do.

Alright, it sounds reasonable to do it. Maybe I'll just need a tiny little help with it :rolleyes: :p

[Zoro]

Here we go again. You repeat the same thoughts over and over again.

So you think it's better to shut the fuck up and let people spread bad information or lies whether innocently on purpose? If you don't appreciate my advise it doesn't mean everyone doesn't.

Let's see according to you there's nothing wrong with these statements:

1- A South Central Asian post 21% S. Indian and says he has negligible EE.
2- Kurds have very very littlle Turkic but they just happen to be among the top 10 populations from Turkmen out of 150 populations
3- You see nothing wrong with using a K12 or K36 calculator to calculate E. Asian or European because for you the other component references have 0 % European and E. Asian.

I can go on and on but I have better things to waste my time on.

[Kaspias]

I think you should give it a try. Maybe this also explains why my father looks so Russian-like. (Leto knows what I'm talking about)

Yeah, but it is hard to explain it for a Pomak/Balkan Turk if matched person is an American. :D

https://i.ibb.co/CzTrknG/Ads-z.png

[Leto]

So you think it's better to shut the fuck up and let people spread bad information or lies whether innocently on purpose? If you don't appreciate my advise it doesn't mean everyone doesn't.

Let's see according to you there's nothing wrong with these statements:

1- A South Central Asian post 21% S. Indian and says he has negligible EE.
2- Kurds have very very littlle Turkic but they just happen to be among the top 10 populations from Turkmen out of 150 populations
3- You see nothing wrong with using a K12 or K36 calculator to calculate E. Asian or European because for you the other component references have 0 % European and E. Asian.

I can go on and on but I have better things to waste my time on.
Yes, he scores 2% Mongoloid or so. That's a fact.

Fuck your ridiculous models and all the bullshit Dilawer spews! I'm really tired of seeing you constantly butting in and spamming threads with incomprehensible crap.

[Zoro]

Yes, he scores 2% Mongoloid or so. That's a fact.

Fuck your ridiculous models and all the bullshit Dilawer spews! I'm really tired of seeing you constantly butting in and spamming threads with incomprehensible crap.

Exactly the response I was expecting from an ignorant dumbass. Hillarious that you compare yourself with a scientist Mr David Reich

[Leto]

Exactly the response I was expecting from an ignorant dumbass. Hillarious that you compare yourself with a scientist Mr David Reich
I don't like that Jewish liberal. Of course he knows much more than me but he obviously follows the liberal antiracist agenda.
Please don't ruin this thread, it's not yours!

[Insuperable]

I get 0.91% Turkic and 0.66% Mongol.


I want to see what I get on DIY since results are a bit different when used on yourdnaportal, gedmatch or DIY and I suddenly get this stupid message:

Error in file(file, ifelse(append, "a", "w")) :
cannot open the connection
In addition: Warning message:
In file(file, ifelse(append, "a", "w")) :
cannot open file 'genotype.txt': Permission denied

Does anyone else get this?

[altaic]

I have some EE but its not significant. Its pretty minor and likely entirely from Indo-Iranians (unlikely they were 0% East Eurasian).

Dodecad K12b

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 36.73
2 South_Asian 21.62
3 Caucasus 18.9
4 North_European 15.57
5 Southwest_Asian 3.1
6 Atlantic_Med 1.97
7 Southeast_Asian 1.35
8 Siberian 0.59
9 East_Asian 0.17

HarappaWorld

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.1
2 Caucasian 21.58
3 S-Indian 21.43
4 NE-Euro 13.7
5 SW-Asian 2.46
6 NE-Asian 1.59
7 Mediterranean 0.67
8 American 0.52
9 Siberian 0.46
10 Beringian 0.26
11 Papuan 0.22

MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 35.11
2 South_Indian 25.16
3 Caucasian 19.62
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.32
5 Ancestral_Altaic 6.75
6 Near_East 3.4
7 Amerindian 0.96
8 Melano_Polynesian 0.84
9 Arctic 0.45
10 Archaic_African 0.33
11 Subsaharian 0.05
12 Archaic_Human 0.01

Thanks. 2% East Eurasian on GEDMatch and %7 Turkic on K11 seems do not correlate and make sense. That is what I mean, I agree with you that K11 is questionable. Looks like South Central Asian component has Turkic admixture on this Dilawer’s calculator...

[Zoro]

Thanks. 2% East Eurasian on GEDMatch and %7 Turkic on K11 seems do not correlate. That is what I mean, I agree with you that K11 is not reliable. Very inconsistent.

WTF since when are Turkmen = Han or something. Turkmen are only maybe only 40% E. Asian. Use common sense

I hope you also realize you can't compare 2 calculators unless they are the same exact K and use exactly the same components.

[Turul Karom]

Thank you! Yes, it actually gave me some hope when I saw that I match Hungarian conquerors :D
You showed me a new perspective to look at my ancestry. I'm also fascinated by your results.

I am flattered; I simply come to TA to commune with like-minded people and talk about heritage and culture, specifically from a Turkic Hungarian perspective. What did I show you or demonstrate that caused this shift in perspective? I would like to know so I would be able to duplicate it and also keep others engaged.

As far as my results, what would you like to see? I was thinking about making a new thread about it because I don't want to clutter up yours. I took some screenshots so far. Thoughts?

Your FACTUAL, PROVEN DNA ancestry is very important to challenging the narrative that some (thankfully ever-shrinking) western academics say, that modern Hungarians do not carry genetic markers from conquerors.

[Insuperable]

I had to run Rgui as an administrator.:picard1:

In DIY I get 0.93% Turkic and 0.64% Mongol.

[altaic]

WTF since when are Turkmen = Han or something. Turkmen are only maybe only 40% E. Asian. Use common sense

I hope you also realize you can't compare 2 calculators unless they are the same exact K and use exactly the same components.

I know but I have 4% East Eurasian and 4.8% Turkic on this calc. He has 2% East Eurasian and 7% Turkic. My South Central Asian is also kind of high ~20% if that comes from there as well. Just does not correlate in my opinion.

[TheMaestro]

You are Turul’s Karom dream boi.

[Zoro]

I'm not sure about this calculator but I'm pretty sure that most of Gedrosia dna calculators are only compatible with 23andme V3 and V4 data. So if you have V5 or ftdna or ancestrydna or myheritage or livingdna data you may want to use some other calculator

[Mejgusu]

Its always nice to see how obsessed people are about turkics.

[Turul Karom]

You are Turul’s Karom dream boi.

lolol

First Kökény, now Chris, will the TA shipping ever end amongst the gallery pairing Turkic Hungarians?

Tune in next week when an Uzbekistan girl comes on the scene.

[TheMaestro]

lolol

First Kökény, now Chris, will the TA shipping ever end amongst the gallery pairing Turkic Hungarians?

Tune in next week when an Uzbekistan girl comes on the scene.

Wait till I found about my Turkic genes and I will be your half magyar golden boi.

[RyoHazuki]

No Eastern European for sure


Southeast European
25.46%
West Asian
11.93%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.03%
Northeast European
30.91%
Indian
0.90%
Northwest European
30.34%
Turkic
0.42%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

[MercifulServant]

Nah. U look turkic tbh.

[RyoHazuki]

Wow the oracle actually works pretty well for me :) so rarely can Oracle recognize French heritage.


Population
Distance
Germans
1.118815
French
2.70706
Czech
2.763199
English
2.866321
Swedes
2.933775
Moldavians
2.950684
Bulgarian
3.101024
Tatars
3.258827

[Turul Karom]

Wait till I found about my Turkic genes and I will be your half magyar golden boi.

Don't worry. I have more than enough for the two of us.

Though I'm sorry to say, I'm not available and select retiring to my yurt with XX, not XY.

But I'll leave the pining masses to only wonder so that the thread can go back on-topic.

[Mejgusu]

Don't worry. I have more than enough for the two of us.

Though I'm sorry to say, I'm not available and select retiring to my yurt with XX, not XY.

But I'll leave the pining masses to only wonder so that the thread can go back on-topic.

Dude beeing 100% turkic doesnt mean your are mentally turkic. I know many turks who would be proud about beeing non turkish. Hungarians arent so, i dont care about your genetics. Your more welcome in the turkish yurt.

[RyoHazuki]

I copy here what i posted in the other thread:

Population
Percentage
Southeast European
34.30%
West Asian
13.62%
Southeast Asian
0.31%
Sub-Saharan African
0.08%
Northeast European
17.32%
Indian
1.04%
Northwest European
33.29%
Turkic
0.00%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.02%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

But this calculator is shithy, my predictions:


Population
Value
Germans
27.2
Italian_North
15
French
4.8
Sicilian
4.8
English
3.8
Basque
3.4
Spanish
3.4
Greek
3
Jew_Ashkenazi
2.8
Loschbour
2.2
Norwegian
2.2
Italian_South
2
Jew_Libyan
1.8
Orcadian
1.6
Scottish
1.6
Spanish_N
1.4
Bulgarian
1.2
Icelandic
1.2
Serbian
1.2
Cypriot
1
Moldavians
1
Turkish_Adana
1
Bosnian
0.8
Kosovo
0.8
Algerian
0.6
Cossacks
0.6
Macedonian
0.6
Moroccan
0.6
Stuttgart
0.6
Tunisian
0.6
Turkish_Balikesir
0.6
Albanians
0.4
Assyrians
0.4
BedouinA
0.4
Croats
0.4
Jordanians
0.4
Libyan
0.4
Montenegran
0.4
Pashtun_Afghan
0.4
Swedes
0.4
Arabs_Israel
0.2
Azerbaijanis
0.2
Balochi
0.2
Egyptian
0.2
Hungarian
0.2
India_Asur
0.2
Jew_iraqi
0.2
Kumyks
0.2
Kurd_N
0.2
Kurd_SE
0.2
North_Ossetians
0.2
Poles
0.2
Sardinian
0.2
Turkish_Kayseri
0.2
Ukrainians_north
0.2


The admix is bad but the single population is okay.

[Zoro]

I know but I have 4% East Eurasian and 4.8% Turkic on this calc. He has 2% East Eurasian and 7% Turkic. My South Central Asian is also kind of high ~20% if that comes from there as well. Just does not correlate in my opinion.

First, hopefully you have 23andme V3 or V4 data. I don't know the reason Dilawer optimized it for V3 and V4 but it is what it is. You can't change that. If you don't have this type of data it's accuracy will be a little less.

It's hard to compare yourself to a Pashtun because he has much more S. Indian than you and S. Indians are a very large percentage E. Eurasian so he has hidden E. Eurasian in S. Indian. Regardless of what anyone tells you Pashtuns being surrounded by C. Asia have a decent amount of Siberian and E. Asian but most of it is hidden in other components. If they use a K3 calculator you can see they score alot of E. Eurasian.

If you like you can post your results with this calculator assuming you have V3 or V4 and with another calculator one with and without SC Asian component and something like a K11 or K12 or K13 and I will try to explain your results for you

[Zoro]

The admix is bad but the single population is okay.

Look Gedrosia dna calculators were not built for oracles. The percentages are better than other calculators but the oracles are not. If you don't believe me go to Vahuado and check to see how many populations they used. It is very minimal. For example the Gedrosia K12 only has these populations for the oracles. So guess what many European populations are MISSING, so obviously it likely will not even have your population for the oracles so it will try to go to the next best thing like Finnish or something.

If you want great oracle results have someone run a bunch of European populations and add the averages to the source spreadsheet.

Simple as that. NOT MADE FOR ORACLE USE. JUST LIKE EUROGENES K36 DOESN'T HAVE ORACLE. DON'T EVEN BOTHER WITH ORACLES. JUST GO BY PERCENTAGES

Abkhasian,0.47,0.01,7.14,6.01,0.72,0.40,4.98,2.73, 0.82,76.10,0.32,0.31
Adygei,1.15,0.00,8.01,2.09,2.44,1.23,3.43,11.58,0. 47,68.96,0.05,0.60
Ami,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,99.99,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00
AP_Chenchu,79.46,0.00,1.32,1.50,0.80,3.27,3.73,0.0 0,5.65,4.03,0.21,0.04
Armenian,0.62,0.06,17.85,22.58,0.10,0.10,11.80,2.9 8,0.16,43.40,0.23,0.13
Assyrian,0.58,0.00,16.37,28.04,0.03,0.05,14.99,1.5 9,0.09,37.91,0.27,0.10
BA_Sintashta,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,99 .99,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Balochi,8.40,0.31,2.46,2.97,0.49,0.57,72.70,2.74,0 .81,7.45,0.41,0.69
BedouinA,0.82,3.04,10.66,57.82,0.22,0.16,2.49,2.76 ,0.25,14.85,6.80,0.12
Bhunjia,73.83,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.07,14.65,0.00,0.00, 7.45,0.00,0.00,2.99
Brahui,4.45,0.19,2.81,2.39,0.41,0.45,81.91,1.23,1. 24,3.50,1.01,0.41
Corded_Ware_LN,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 99.99,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Datog,0.00,15.39,0.98,6.11,0.00,0.46,0.00,0.00,0.2 4,0.41,76.36,0.05
Esan,0.00,99.99,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00
Estonian,0.13,0.00,28.74,0.20,1.09,0.18,0.53,67.95 ,0.41,0.11,0.00,0.65
Ethiopian_Jew,0.00,2.34,0.74,34.07,0.06,0.14,0.00, 0.04,0.41,0.36,61.84,0.00
Finnish,0.79,0.00,26.15,0.00,5.64,0.50,0.00,64.54, 0.17,0.96,0.01,1.23
Georgian,0.41,0.00,9.69,7.48,0.23,0.11,3.41,1.34,0 .24,76.96,0.00,0.12
Gond,72.27,0.00,0.79,0.28,0.93,4.51,8.19,5.00,4.84 ,3.08,0.00,0.11
Greek,0.19,0.06,37.30,13.64,0.25,0.11,1.04,20.57,0 .22,26.54,0.05,0.03
GujaratiA,43.52,0.00,1.05,0.04,0.69,0.00,27.98,13. 62,0.46,11.84,0.00,0.81
GujaratiB,53.33,0.00,0.64,0.00,0.51,0.57,22.73,10. 87,0.62,10.58,0.00,0.15
GujaratiC,61.83,0.00,0.00,0.02,0.45,0.30,19.76,6.5 9,1.83,9.13,0.00,0.10
GujaratiD,69.34,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.39,0.56,17.99,3.3 5,0.38,7.39,0.00,0.18
Hakkipikki,85.42,0.00,1.39,2.15,0.90,1.56,3.82,0.2 8,3.25,0.30,0.55,0.38
Iranian,3.99,0.41,10.14,18.32,1.10,0.89,24.42,3.30 ,0.65,36.01,0.21,0.55
Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad,1.95,1.17,16.01,25.58,1.25,0.00 ,18.26,4.72,0.33,29.84,0.89,0.00
Iraqi_Chaldeans,1.04,0.00,18.35,25.33,0.06,0.08,16 .46,4.64,0.08,33.45,0.53,0.00
Iraqi_Jew,0.56,0.00,19.88,27.95,0.00,0.42,15.01,2. 12,0.00,32.33,1.73,0.00
Iraqi_Mandaeans,1.91,0.02,17.44,27.00,0.14,0.10,17 .56,1.77,0.00,32.86,1.08,0.12
Itelmen,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,99.99
Jordanian,0.52,2.06,17.60,38.79,0.32,0.24,7.45,1.3 3,0.87,24.96,5.67,0.18
Kanjar,71.05,0.00,0.62,0.47,0.32,0.99,11.30,6.46,1 .53,6.57,0.05,0.63
Koryak,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,96.40
Kurds_E,2.61,0.03,14.62,18.36,0.49,0.21,23.28,5.80 ,0.03,33.61,0.48,0.49
Kurds_C,4.33,0.01,14.65,18.85,0.49,0.28,21.46,7.72 ,0.34,30.37,0.92,0.57
Kurds_N,3.26,0.03,16.07,17.93,0.69,0.82,19.50,7.06 ,0.14,34.04,0.21,0.24
Kurds_F,5.67,0.04,13.80,21.08,0.18,0.24,19.02,5.94 ,0.20,32.85,0.44,0.52
Kurds_SE,19.35,3.49,0.56,2.26,0.88,1.58,35.06,10.1 7,1.10,22.15,1.56,1.83
Kurumba,76.65,0.00,0.00,0.76,0.77,1.05,15.01,0.09, 0.47,4.43,0.00,0.77
Kusunda,2.36,0.00,0.10,0.04,1.42,6.04,0.33,0.01,88 .46,0.30,0.00,0.93
Lithuanian,0.00,0.00,28.54,0.15,0.13,0.17,0.65,69. 60,0.22,0.43,0.00,0.10
Makrani,5.38,2.20,2.30,6.91,0.40,0.30,71.60,1.09,0 .22,8.59,0.84,0.17
Masai,0.33,20.75,0.00,0.17,0.05,0.02,0.29,0.04,0.1 4,0.01,78.21,0.00
Meghawal,67.21,0.00,1.12,0.06,1.76,0.00,20.06,2.40 ,0.01,6.85,0.00,0.54
Mongola,0.02,0.00,0.33,0.51,24.04,50.09,0.93,0.53, 15.99,1.40,0.00,6.16
Naga,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,17.95,48.72,0.00,0.00,30. 62,0.00,0.00,2.69
Nepali,42.36,0.00,0.05,0.00,2.15,1.99,25.45,10.69, 2.45,13.82,0.00,1.04
Nganasan,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,99.99,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Nihali,81.20,0.00,0.83,0.68,0.27,7.54,0.41,0.49,7. 70,0.00,0.47,0.41
Norwegian,0.27,0.00,36.50,0.86,0.22,0.07,2.65,52.1 9,0.51,6.52,0.00,0.22
Pashtun_Afghan,16.73,0.02,0.96,1.56,1.82,2.33,31.5 3,14.58,0.75,28.68,0.00,1.05
Pathan,29.24,0.01,0.64,1.08,0.95,0.74,32.50,12.04, 0.34,21.25,0.01,1.22
Piramalai,79.25,0.03,0.22,2.85,0.51,1.18,12.34,0.0 0,1.13,1.78,0.05,0.68
Punjabi_Sikh,31.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.51,0.00,39.64, 15.12,0.60,11.14,0.00,1.17
Russian,0.52,0.00,24.53,0.89,4.98,1.12,1.22,60.46, 0.64,4.28,0.00,1.36
Sardinian,0.04,0.00,96.38,1.07,0.06,0.00,0.28,1.04 ,0.11,0.96,0.00,0.06
Saudi,0.96,0.29,4.96,80.14,0.05,0.15,2.20,0.48,0.1 2,9.19,1.43,0.05
Sicilian,0.35,0.38,38.30,18.90,0.00,0.09,1.31,13.7 7,0.42,24.98,1.11,0.39
Sindhi,36.86,0.05,0.50,0.64,0.41,0.27,36.91,7.79,0 .99,14.75,0.21,0.62
Somali,0.03,0.76,0.20,14.35,0.01,0.01,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.14,84.49,0.00
Stuttgart,0.00,0.00,76.73,15.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,7.80,0.00,0.00
Syrian,1.87,1.81,14.85,38.56,0.11,0.32,8.17,2.03,0 .27,26.86,4.69,0.47
Tajik_Afghan,13.46,0.15,3.87,2.28,7.07,8.87,21.85, 11.36,2.26,26.45,0.24,2.13
Tajik_Pomiri,12.48,0.00,2.88,0.48,2.24,1.79,26.79, 24.49,1.03,25.79,0.00,2.03
Tharu,68.49,0.00,0.25,0.00,0.83,2.17,13.61,5.36,1. 14,7.31,0.00,0.83
Turkmen_Afghan,4.48,0.07,5.47,5.79,14.05,10.29,16. 65,14.85,3.60,20.50,0.13,4.11
Turks_Adana,1.43,0.15,18.62,21.76,2.73,1.25,10.12, 5.04,0.54,36.73,0.75,0.88
Turks_Aydin,0.62,0.15,19.13,15.26,5.79,4.10,5.64,1 0.13,1.68,35.43,0.18,1.89
Turks_Balikesir,2.15,0.01,21.21,10.55,5.42,4.85,1. 85,11.06,1.27,39.83,0.31,1.48
Turks_Istanbul,1.93,0.00,23.32,12.68,2.47,2.09,7.3 6,12.38,1.05,35.70,0.13,0.88
Turks_Kayseri,1.02,0.00,19.26,19.28,2.57,2.35,8.77 ,5.01,0.64,40.55,0.00,0.54
Turks_Trabzon,0.32,0.00,18.30,16.57,0.45,0.04,1.45 ,0.60,0.00,62.24,0.00,0.02
Ulchi,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,40.68,41.70,0.00,0.00,0. 59,0.00,0.00,17.03
UP_Brahmin,53.94,0.00,0.63,1.07,0.35,0.08,17.36,14 .60,1.91,9.55,0.00,0.51
UP_Caste,74.79,0.00,2.18,0.88,0.59,0.72,9.14,3.59, 3.77,3.91,0.00,0.43
UP_Chamar,81.11,0.00,1.98,0.79,0.37,0.45,5.67,2.17 ,3.40,3.45,0.00,0.61
UP_Kol,69.17,0.00,0.90,0.39,0.74,1.57,12.20,5.07,3 .31,6.04,0.01,0.60
UP_Muslim,67.98,0.00,0.29,1.27,0.62,0.61,11.71,5.2 3,3.20,8.30,0.00,0.80
Uzbek,6.28,0.00,5.92,3.20,15.22,14.06,12.05,14.20, 5.34,19.34,0.27,4.13
Uzbek_Afghan,10.23,0.00,5.03,2.85,6.01,8.22,28.73, 11.16,3.52,22.08,0.00,2.17
Velamas,72.11,0.00,0.34,0.78,0.65,0.98,18.62,0.09, 0.66,5.39,0.01,0.37
Yemen,1.30,7.12,6.77,51.36,0.47,0.62,7.53,0.96,0.2 5,13.17,10.15,0.30
Yemenite_Jew,0.37,0.00,6.14,81.19,0.12,0.08,2.21,0 .00,0.05,7.15,2.43,0.24
Yoruba,0.00,99.92,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.07,0.00
Yukagir,0.51,0.00,4.25,0.22,48.01,10.11,0.61,9.65, 0.84,0.31,0.01,25.48

[altaic]

First, hopefully you have 23andme V3 or V4 data. I don't know the reason Dilawer optimized it for V3 and V4 but it is what it is. You can't change that. If you don't have this type of data it's accuracy will be a little less.

It's hard to compare yourself to a Pashtun because he has much more S. Indian than you and S. Indians are a very large percentage E. Eurasian so he has hidden E. Eurasian in S. Indian. Regardless of what anyone tells you Pashtuns being surrounded by C. Asia have a decent amount of Siberian and E. Asian but most of it is hidden in other components. If they use a K3 calculator you can see they score alot of E. Eurasian.

If you like you can post your results with this calculator assuming you have V3 or V4 and with another calculator one with and without SC Asian component and something like a K11 or K12 or K13 and I will try to explain your results for you

I think I understand your point. My uploaded result was converted V3 btw.

[Mingle]

From what I see you have plenty of EE. You score 21% S. Indian !! Do you think S. Indian is 100% W. Eurasian? I hope not

I meant Mongoloid. On G25 (which has simulated AASI), its a similar case. But I don't want to derail the OP's thread further.

[Chris596]

I am flattered; I simply come to TA to commune with like-minded people and talk about heritage and culture, specifically from a Turkic Hungarian perspective. What did I show you or demonstrate that caused this shift in perspective? I would like to know so I would be able to duplicate it and also keep others engaged.

As far as my results, what would you like to see? I was thinking about making a new thread about it because I don't want to clutter up yours. I took some screenshots so far. Thoughts?

Your FACTUAL, PROVEN DNA ancestry is very important to challenging the narrative that some (thankfully ever-shrinking) western academics say, that modern Hungarians do not carry genetic markers from conquerors.

I meant by this that both of us have some ,,original magyar DNA" . It was just basically in the last 400-500 years that your genetics became significantly Germanic and mine significantly Eastern European. This is what I meant by the new perspective. Which is also very logical :)
And you are right, we need to show those biased academics that they are very wrong. We are both related to original Hungarians and this is enough for proof.


Its always nice to see how obsessed people are about turkics.

I can't say that I'm obsessed, I'm just searching for distant ancestors and stuff. But I also have the right to claim some distant ancestry. Not because I'm a Turkic wannabe, but because it's my ancestry.

[Zoro]

I meant Mongoloid. On G25 (which has simulated AASI), its a similar case. But I don't want to derail the OP's thread further.

I knew you would bring up AASI. The bottom line is Pashtuns and all their Central Asian ancestors which are a combination of Paktikans, Bactrians, Sakas, Siberian Hunter Gatherers, Turkics, Kushans, Parthians etc have a good deal of "MONGOLOID" DNA in addition to AASI. It's COMMON SENSE.

Just some friendly advise. Don't get brainwashed by G25 coordinates which are based on a hodge podge mixture of 1000s of samples which affect coordinates in all sorts of undesirable ways or Simulated AASI BS whether it's the creator (you always have the profit motivation also) or some amateur forum people from other forums. Formal statistics tools are a good option to explore this admixture breakdown.

A well designed ADMIXTURE calculator is another option but not one with too many K (over K6). G25 is not used in scientific community for a reason. It has no OUTGROUP mechanism built in and there is no model validation p-value mechanism built in such as with formal tools not to mention the number of samples used is not balanced. Distance is NOT an acceptable substitute.

Pakistani Pashtuns and I imagine you would not be much different are something like this based on high density SNP analysis :

POPULATION Pashtuns-PAK
West-Eurasian 67.87%
South-Eurasian 10.52%
East-Eurasian 11.72%
Siberian-Amerindian 7.96%
African 1.93%

The African is inferred by SW Asian populations by proxy. The above percentages are consistent with pashtun history and something called common sense.

[Vojnik]

<tbody>
Population

Percentage



Southeast European

36.74%



West Asian

20.25%



Southeast Asian

0.00%



Sub-Saharan African

0.00%



Northeast European

27.78%



Indian

0.00%



Northwest European

12.88%



Turkic

2.34%



Mongol

0.00%



Papuan

0.00%



Northeast Asian

0.00%


</tbody>

[Aileron]

https://i.hizliresim.com/UVzMXt.png (https://hizliresim.com/UVzMXt)

Honestly you didnt even take a genetic test, your face proves your origin my friend.
I think you really represent true Magyars look, free of Slavic and little of Germanic admixture

[magicalM]

There is a slight difference between the two samples. The first photo is an ftdna sample, the second one is a living dna sample. As you can see the first samples scores more West Asian, Turkic and less Mongol (0.06 difference. What company did you use? I am still trying to figure out which of the samples are better. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200506/56d1ae96137d9f889b8bd1724e69041a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200506/d286b0baac091c61d542b44eb829fa3c.jpg

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[Impaler]

POPULATION Pashtuns-PAK
West-Eurasian 67.87%
South-Eurasian 10.52%
East-Eurasian 11.72%
Siberian-Amerindian 7.96%
African 1.93%

The African is inferred by SW Asian populations by proxy. The above percentages are consistent with pashtun history and something called common sense.


What calculator is that one?

[knez01]

It's not wise to generalize and fault a calculator for some Croat getting 3-4% Turkic. It's not exactly a shocker. First you don't know what the guy's real history is. He may honestly not even know himself beyond a couple of generations. Who knows if he even used 23andme V3 or V4 data. He may have used 23andme V5 or Ancestrydna or ftdna data which don't have as many markers overlapping with Gedrosia calculators.

The other mistake you are making is that the Central Asian Turkics that migrated to Turkey or Europe were not 100% E. Asian. So they didn't just give Anatolians or Europeans only E. Asian genes. They also gave them their brand of Central Asian and West Asian genes.

I do agree that if you are trying to confirm exactly how much E. Asian you have you should use a different calculator but certainly not a G25 which is contaminated with hundreds of samples that skew the calculations of E. Asian admixture you are seeking.

In fact it's useless to use any calculator above a K3 or K4 for this purpose because no one and I repeat no one knows how much E. Asian is lurking under the other components.

My family history is almost exclusively Croatians, with some South Italians and probably Vlachs. The Turkic in this calculator is skewed obviously, because on other calculators on yourdnaportal I score 0 turkic, such as MDLP K33

[Mejgusu]

I can't say that I'm obsessed, I'm just searching for distant ancestors and stuff. But I also have the right to claim some distant ancestry. Not because I'm a Turkic wannabe, but because it's my ancestry.

This message wasnt directed to you, but rather to people who make a joke of that...

[Turul Karom]

Dude beeing 100% turkic doesnt mean your are mentally turkic. I know many turks who would be proud about beeing non turkish. Hungarians arent so, i dont care about your genetics. Your more welcome in the turkish yurt.

I'll settle with being biological and mental, lol.

Also, I am not Anatolian Turkish (Oguz, or other tribes), at least not that I've ever learned about though all of my DNA research and kit comparisons. I have genetic matches with Turkic groups such as the conquering Hungarian population and several Scythians.

You are welcome in the Hungarian yurt as well.

[Mejgusu]

I'll settle with being biological and mental, lol.

Also, I am not Anatolian Turkish (Oguz, or other tribes), at least not that I've ever learned about though all of my DNA research and kit comparisons. I have genetic matches with Turkic groups such as the conquering Hungarian population and several Scythians.

You are welcome in the Hungarian yurt as well.

Thanks bro, i was many times in hungary, unfortunately we just drived into. One time we must to drive into budapest, a really beautiful city i would visit this city once again.
You would be welcome, the new mayor of ankara changed to thank your people the nameof the filistin street to macar street.

[tipirneni]

I get more than you

Turkic 4.95%
Mongol 0.83%
Northeast Asian 1.16%


South Asians with exposure to Central Asia usually get this or above

[Turul Karom]

I meant by this that both of us have some ,,original magyar DNA" . It was just basically in the last 400-500 years that your genetics became significantly Germanic and mine significantly Eastern European. This is what I meant by the new perspective. Which is also very logical :)
And you are right, we need to show those biased academics that they are very wrong. We are both related to original Hungarians and this is enough for proof.

I can't say that I'm obsessed, I'm just searching for distant ancestors and stuff. But I also have the right to claim some distant ancestry. Not because I'm a Turkic wannabe, but because it's my ancestry.

We actually do indeed share this DNA.

Thanks for the compliment, because I always try to be very logical with my evidence. I hold my positions not purely because I think Turanism is "cool" but because I actually understand the science behind the Hungarian conquering groups arrival and how they contributed to the genetics of the Carpathian Basin. I also understand the political push by some to disenfranchise Hungarian legitimacy by saying we are not related to them even a little %, and that we are purely Germanics, Slavs, or Balkanites that have been merely culturally assimilated and nothing more. This is very different from the reverse idea that we are the Turanid "other", which has been used to disassemble Hungary after WW1 during Trianon. This newer mentality is to absorb Hungary into the EU, and by some extremists to complete the marginalization of Turkic Hungarians from the social and political identity.

Every time Hungary is free, we gravitate towards our true past; 1000 years of countless wars in the name of others and their irrelevant causes has done great damage to us as a people and as an identity. But we have survived, and long enough so that DNA science has progressed enough to prove those who would say otherwise wrong! There is nothing they can do now, as their positions (usually betting everything on linguistics) on Hungarian origins and modern Hungarian genetics are pushed into shadow and the dustbin of the 20th century forever! DNA shows our ancestry and our steppe family, and we are the modern Hungarian descendants! From many sides of the steppes come the Hungarian tribes, and we will be here to enjoy the windswept plains and sun for millenniums yet to come!

https://i.imgur.com/JqHeiG8.png

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337189359_Y-chromosome_haplogroups_from_Hun_Avar_and_conquerin g_Hungarian_period_nomadic_people_of_the_Carpathia n_Basin

[Insuperable]

Its always nice to see how obsessed people are about turkics.

It is a competition who gets less.

[Mejgusu]

It is a competition who gets less.

Wow you shake of my beliefe in a world...

[Leto]

Okay, then I have a new task to do for tomorrow.
Have you tried data conversion yet?

[Chris596]

Have you tried data conversion yet?

Today I was a little busy, but I'll try to do it this week for sure :)

[IrisSelene]

well you certainly have A LOT more than me ... idk why i have so much indian... i would like to think it's missinterpreted central/western asian or mena lol


Population
Percentage
Southeast European
35.48%
West Asian
12.60%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
34.69%
Indian
4.39%
Northwest European
9.78%
Turkic
2.77%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
Northeast Asian
0.28%

[Chris596]

My new results using the 23andme V3 version

Southeast European 35.15%
West Asian 10.14%
Southeast Asian 0.45%
Sub-Saharan African 0.23%
Northeast European 34.01%
Indian 0.03%
Northwest European 14.87%
Turkic 4.48%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.16%
Northeast Asian 0.47%

I got more from everything.

[Luso]

This is what I got lol, since I'm bored:

South Asian - 0 pct
Caucasus 5.68 Pct
Southwest Asian 6.93 Pct
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.16 Pct
Siberian 0.05 Pct
Mediterranean 29.56 Pct
East Asian - 0 pct
West African 3.46 Pct
Volga-Ural 3.69 Pct
South Baltic 8.41 Pct
North Atlantic 42.08 Pct

[Chris596]

This is what I got lol, since I'm bored:

South Asian - 0 pct
Caucasus 5.68 Pct
Southwest Asian 6.93 Pct
North Amerindian + Arctic 0.16 Pct
Siberian 0.05 Pct
Mediterranean 29.56 Pct
East Asian - 0 pct
West African 3.46 Pct
Volga-Ural 3.69 Pct
South Baltic 8.41 Pct
North Atlantic 42.08 Pct

3.90 Turan :D

[Schwop]

https://zizihub.com/2913.jpg

[AncientGreek]

0% Turkic admixture, as expected.

https://imgur.com/Hp43mPf.png

[oszkar07]

Oszkar
Turkic K11

23andMe Data


Population
Percentage
Southeast European
33.46%
West Asian
2.74%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
35.77%
Indian
0.93%
Northwest European
22.60%
Turkic
4.51%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

[Chris596]

Oszkar
Turkic
4.51%

Wow! Nice :D

[Dušan]

Tiny tiny 0.04%. :p

https://i.imgur.com/rShqbB5.png

[Chris596]

Uhmm, I got more than 5% Turkic after I converted my original Myheritage file to 23andme V5

SE_European 36.04
W_Asian 9.22
SE_Asian 0.41
SSA 0.00
NE_European 34.21
Indian 0.00
NW_European 14.51
Turkic 5.14
Mongol 0.00
Papuan 0.00
NE_Asian 0.47

And almost 7% after converting it to LivingDNA V2 (just for fun)

SE_European 34.42
W_Asian 9.94
SE_Asian 0.00
SSA 0.00
NE_European 34.03
Indian 0.00
NW_European 14.91
Turkic 6.68
Mongol 0.00
Papuan 0.00
NE_Asian 0.02

But using the LivingDNA version almost all my East-Asian components disappear, so I guess the 23andme version is still more accurate. Any thoughts?

[Luso]

3.90 Turan :D

How did you check?

[Chris596]

How did you check?

I added your Volga-Ural, Siberian and North-Amerindian scores (I know this is not how it works xd)

[Rgvgjhvv]

My mom:

Turkic: 3.31%
Northeast Asian: 0.28%

[Kyp]

Father:

Turkic 9.03%
Mongol 1.44%
Northeast Asian 1.56%

[Chris596]

My mom:

Turkic: 3.31%
Northeast Asian: 0.28%


Father:

Turkic 9.03%
Mongol 1.44%
Northeast Asian 1.56%

Thanks for sharing! :) Markos I'm sure you really had Turkic ancestors as you've told us.

Wow, this is such an ,,old'' thread, since then I've already done a second DNA test, bought G25 and everything, my ancestral background is pretty clear at this point. I cannot do too much until another calculator comes out. Although I've been doing some summer work and maybe I'll buy an ancestry calculator which I have read a lot of good things about, and it supposedly looks very deeply into the DNA, defines everything, deep ancestry, precise admixtures, etc.

Marques K64:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 0.7382% / 0.00738161
25.2 Germanic_Europe
21.0 Baltic
18.2 East_European
15.0 Balkan
8.2 Central_European
6.6 South_Caucasus
1.6 Anatolia
1.6 South_Chinese
1.0 North_Caucasus
0.8 Sibérian
0.6 Indonesian_Austronesian
0.2 Indochina



This is a really good representation of my ancestry:

World K134 by Supreeeme

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9357% / 0.01935680 | ADC: 0.25x
79.0 Bosnian-Croatian-Serbian-Montenegrin
17.8 Bulgarian-Romanian-Moldovan-Macedonian
1.6 Dai-Li-Mulam-Zhuang
0.8 Abkhasian-Imer-Ossetian
0.6 Kabardin-Circassian-Karachay-Abazin
0.2 Ju_hoan

My father (completely Szekely):

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.1714% / 0.04171415 | ADC: 0.25x
93.6 Bulgarian-Romanian-Moldovan-Macedonian
4.2 Abkhasian-Imer-Ossetian
1.6 Ami-Atayal-Luzon-Igorot
0.6 Dai-Li-Mulam-Zhuang

[Bender1999]

Father:

Turkic 9.03%
Mongol 1.44%
Northeast Asian 1.56%

Why is your Turkic so low? Your father is at least 20% turkic, or am i wrong?

[Kyp]

Why is your Turkic so low? Your father is at least 20% turkic, or am i wrong?

This is my father's. And it's not low for that calculator. The turkic component here is mostly mongoloid. (Above 50%)

It's also not a good calculator as my father plots closest to North Ossetians.

[Scandal]

Gedmatch is down, I will post the result later. I have more mena admixture than turkic with latter being close to zero.

[Mortimer]

HUNG Aryan conquerors rocking the mic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pquO6RMXE5Q&fbclid=IwAR36423Mj8tIBDeBV39BH2NkVsJW9faJYjpWWtuCp GN8D9BE4_YpnZHxaZE

[Chris596]

Gedmatch is down, I will post the result later. I have more mena admixture than turkic with latter being close to zero.

You can do this on yourdnaportal.com :) (it's the same, like the East Asian calculator there)

[Scandal]

You can do this on yourdnaportal.com :) (it's the same, like the East Asian calculator there)

Southeast European
33.73%
West Asian
8.45%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
42.30%
Indian
0.00%
Northwest European
13.62%
Turkic
0.00%
Mongol
1.71%
Papuan
0.07%
Northeast Asian
0.13%

[Chris596]

Southeast European
33.73%
West Asian
8.45%
Southeast Asian
0.00%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
42.30%
Indian
0.00%
Northwest European
13.62%
Turkic
0.00%
Mongol
1.71%
Papuan
0.07%
Northeast Asian
0.13%

Wow. No Turkic but you got some Northeast Asian and almost 2% Mongol. So you have East Asian ancestry? Why doesn't it show up on GEDmatch? Interesting.

[Scandal]

Wow. No Turkic but you got some Northeast Asian and almost 2% Mongol. So you have East Asian ancestry? Why doesn't it show up on GEDmatch? Interesting.

I don't know, this calculator may exaggerate my asian score. I score it on some other calculators too, but not as much. I have minor to non-existant asian admixture, I have seen a french forum member score more than me on the same calculator(don't remember which calculator).

[Hapanuwa]

Population
Percentage
Southeast European
15.97%
West Asian
44.81%
Southeast Asian
0.77%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
15.02%
Indian
3.02%
Northwest European
6.40%
Turkic
8.89%
Mongol
2.53%
Papuan
0.62%
Northeast Asian
1.96%

[someonenotyou]

Population

Percentage
Southeast European
26.14%
West Asian
15.31%
Southeast Asian
0.20%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
34.49%
Indian
1.32%
Northwest European
20.33%
Turkic
2.21%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
Northeast Asian
0.00%

[someonenotyou]

My fathers results.

Southeast European
27.44%
West Asian
11.68%
Southeast Asian
0.56%
Sub-Saharan African
0.00%
Northeast European
37.29%
Indian
0.66%
Northwest European
18.48%
Turkic
2.97%
Mongol
0.00%
Papuan
0.00%
Northeast Asian
0.92%

[Reborn]

I do not know him and do not see his photo. When I joined the forum, he was already offline member. I see one of his post that he says his Y-DNA is O-M176 . It could be possible based on his Turkic result above. I am actually really curious as well if it is true. I wonder how he looks. Any current forum member knows Turkish member Charles Branson?? I believe some Central Asian Turks can get that hablogroup as well so it is possible I guess...



Why are you so interested on Charles Bronson?

[altaic]

Why are you so interested on Charles Bronson?

Someone asked me if I know him and I replied that I do not know. I was curious about the phenotype since he has very high East Asian components. That is all...

[Reborn]

Someone asked me if I know him and I replied that I do not know. I was curious about the phenotype since he has very high East Asian components. That is all...

Phenotype is not genotype.

[Nurzat]

Is this high for a Hungarian?


Population Percentage

Southeast European 34.49%
West Asian 11.65
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.00%
Northeast European 35.23%
Indian 0.00%
Northwest European 14.19%
Turkic 4.43%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

EDIT: Other members! Please share your Turkic admixture results (Hungarians as well)


yes. i'll make a new one

as far as i remember even nurzat has over 5.5%..almost 6%? maybe i'm wrong


Very close to my Turkic % results!

https://i.imgur.com/uxiMvmS.png

my Turkic K11. is there any vahaduo calculator based on Turkic K11?

Southeast European 28.00%
West Asian 10.00%
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.00%
Northeast European 34.72%
Indian 1.32%
Northwest European 20.69%
Turkic 3.65%
Mongol 1.62%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%


Closest population distances

Germans 1.503549
Moldavians 1.945117
Czech 1.998635
Bulgarian 2.304008
Hungarian 2.541585
Ukrainians_west 2.576396
Tatars 2.653818
Bosnian 2.683086


Admix 4 Oracle

Cossacks_Kuban 25
Kumyks 25
Sardinian 25
Swedes 25

[Aila]

Ok. I’ll add my result on this thread as well.

8.65% Turkic
1.15% Mongol
4.79% NE_Asian

Where I get the Turkic from, I’ve got no idea (Finnish average 1.79)
My Siberian side? (Dolgan + Selkup?)

From some other forum I had copied this and was surprised just how much Mongol and Turkic they got:

Samoan:
0.00% SE_European
0.00% W_Asian
40.39% SE_Asian
0.69% SSA
0.00% NE_European
4.03% Indian
0.00% NW_European
8.15% Turkic
27.22% Mongol
15.72% Papuan
3.81% NE_Asian

Music to go with the results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSNb1LXXk40

Maories must have high amount as well, like spot the Maori looking blokes from this crowd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc

[Pater Patota]

Southeast European 19.40%
West Asian 45.26%
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.27%
Northeast European 15.28%
Indian 9.03%
Northwest European 3.10%
Turkic 7.66%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

[Nanushka]

From yourDNAportal:

Southeast European 12.27%
West Asian 34.48%
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.00%
Northeast European 25.20%
Indian 9.74%
Northwest European 9.80%
Turkic 8.51%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

funny enough I dont have any Mongol or northeast Asian


Ok. I’ll add my result on this thread as well.

8.65% Turkic
1.15% Mongol
4.79% NE_Asian

Where I get the Turkic from, I’ve got no idea (Finnish average 1.79)
My Siberian side? (Dolgan + Selkup?)

your Turkic is as high as mine :) but you said you have Saami admixture and they must be related to Siberian populations like Dolgan, Sakha whose Turkic components are high enough


From some other forum I had copied this and was surprised just how much Mongol and Turkic they got:

I may expect them to have higher Mongol but not Turkic, so yes it is surprising for me too

[Aodhan]

i did it in yourDNAportal:
Southeast European 32.92%
West Asian 10.18%
Southeast Asian 0.22%
Sub-Saharan African 2.71%
Northeast European 17.59%
Indian 4.04%
Northwest European 25.91%
Turkic 5.54%
Mongol 0.46%
Papuan 0.43%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

[Ritz06]

West Asian 26.13%
Northeast European 24.10%
Southeast European 21.02%
Northwest European 15.58%
Turkic 7.22%
Indian 5.96%

[Aila]

The original calculator and the DNAportal give almost exactly the same result.



your Turkic is as high as mine :) :)


funny enough I dont have any Mongol or northeast Asian
Sorry for stupid questions – Could that be a difference between Avars & Gokturks?
(Just starting to peek into Avar history).

[Pater Patota]

I believe my 7.66% Turkic score comes from my maternal grandmother’s ancestry.Afaik, My grandmother’s gradmother came from Northern Caucasia, she was a Circassian, i believe, they’ve mixed with Turkic tribes(Nogay, Karacay, Balkar etc) in Caucasia, afaik I don’t have any known Turkmen or Yoruk ancestry both in my maternal and paternal ancestry, if i had i would get bigger Turkic, Mongolian, Southeast Asian and Northeast Asian scores.

[Nanushka]

Sorry for stupid questions – Could that be a difference between Avars & Gokturks?
(Just starting to peek into Avar history).

you can ask anything :) yes it may be related to the difference as Gokturks (Turkish Kaghanate) lived in inner Asia around Altai mountains for a very long time while Avars (then White Huns) were settled in the land around today's Northern India-Afghanistan-Turkestan region until Gokturks destroyed them because of Juan-Juans (Rourans). White Hun-Ephtalite union were allies with the Juan-Juan and even marriages took place and some of them moved to west with White Huns. Upon their arrival in Northern Caucasia they changed their names to 'Avar' after their biggest tribe Uar (Avar). some says they took it over to look intimidating to other nations but it may be just a rumour. They stayed there more than a decade, ruled all the tribes (esp Turkics like Sabirs, Onogurs, Kutigurs) then many moved to west to Pannonia, leaving some people as rulers behind who got mixed with the locals (this is mainly the main story of Avars but there are many details ofc)


I believe my 7.66% Turkic score comes from my maternal grandmother’s ancestry.Afaik, My grandmother’s gradmother came from Northern Caucasia, she was a Circassian, i believe, they’ve mixed with Turkic tribes(Nogay, Karacay, Balkar etc) in Caucasia, afaik I don’t have any known Turkmen or Yoruk ancestry both in my maternal and paternal ancestry, if i had i would get bigger Turkic, Mongolian, Southeast Asian and Northeast Asian scores.

yep Turks from Balkans or northern Caucasus dont score high in Turkic calculator since the populations they compare are mostly recent Central Asian like Kyrgyz, Uzbek or Kazakh which usually dont have a direct link with us

[Aila]

Thanks Buusra.

The whole Turkic world is such a complicated tangle, I hadn’t known where to even start to unravel it all.
But now at least I know that Göktürks were “characterized by a Siberian, Mongolian and Northeast Asian ancestry”.

At the very beginning cracks began to appear. First Göktürks vs Avars (Rourans).
Next if I remember correctly by my IBD segments – Uighurs.
And then it is Uighurs vs Göktürks - Avars being way out West.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs#/media/File:Old_World_820.png
Then Kyrgyz vs Uyghurs etc. etc.

But that was the way of the Steppe cultures, I guess.


Off topic
Blue Wolf of Altay-Yugur:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCtUuLGgYzA
A Tibetan Buddhist initiation card:
https://i.ibb.co/VthmKDB/Tsakli-Tibet-circa-16th-Cent.jpg

[Nanushka]

Thanks Buusra.

The whole Turkic world is such a complicated tangle, I hadn’t known where to even start to unravel it all.
But now at least I know that Göktürks were “characterized by a Siberian, Mongolian and Northeast Asian ancestry”.

At the very beginning cracks began to appear. First Göktürks vs Avars (Rourans).
Next if I remember correctly by my IBD segments – Uighurs.
And then it is Uighurs vs Göktürks - Avars being way out West.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs#/media/File:Old_World_820.png
Then Kyrgyz vs Uyghurs etc. etc.

But that was the way of the Steppe cultures, I guess.


Off topic
Blue Wolf of Altay-Yugur:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCtUuLGgYzA
A Tibetan Buddhist initiation card:
https://i.ibb.co/VthmKDB/Tsakli-Tibet-circa-16th-Cent.jpg

Can you see this link Aila? if you can, you will find out there are many links to Turkic history, genetics, belief language etc from many academics from around the world. I cant send you each link but I hope you can see them and choose some to read:

http://www.turkicworld.org/

thank you for the nice music :)

[Aila]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH Buusra :flower
I will study it.