Russian Tatar woman

[yamagi]

https://i.imgur.com/E3D6Ec4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8LkNf6B.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L7zTM6D.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PraMoHV.jpg

[Veneda]

She should search her roots in Asia

[Rgvgjhvv]

99% Asian

[Ion Basescul]

She should search her roots in Asia

She is probably Siberian Tatar, who are fully East Asian.

[Ülev]

...

[Kamilla13]

Interesting look.

I must say looks are deceiving.
She would score around 20 % European if she does DNA test.

[Friedrich Ulrich]

Wtf fully mongoloid

[Ymyyakhtakh]

She is probably Siberian Tatar, who are fully East Asian.

No they're not, and North Asian is different from East Asian.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/QpAdm-based-admixture-models-for-the-forest-tundra-and-steppe-forest-cline_fig5_332747456:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332747456/figure/fig5/AS:755606516400135@1557162040393/QpAdm-based-admixture-models-for-the-forest-tundra-and-steppe-forest-cline.png

[Ion Basescul]

No they're not, and North Asian is different from East Asian.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/QpAdm-based-admixture-models-for-the-forest-tundra-and-steppe-forest-cline_fig5_332747456:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332747456/figure/fig5/AS:755606516400135@1557162040393/QpAdm-based-admixture-models-for-the-forest-tundra-and-steppe-forest-cline.png

Yes, you are right. I've just checked on G25 too. I must have confused them for Yakuts. East Asian and Siberian are very similar.

[Austrvegr]

She might be a Kalmyk or a Buryat. Too Mongoloid for a Tatar.

[IrisSelene]

she doesn't even look just tatar, she looks straight up full east asian lmao

[Aileron]

Doesnt look Tatar imho,

[Synapsid]

No they're not, and North Asian is different from East Asian.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/QpAdm-based-admixture-models-for-the-forest-tundra-and-steppe-forest-cline_fig5_332747456:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332747456/figure/fig5/AS:755606516400135@1557162040393/QpAdm-based-admixture-models-for-the-forest-tundra-and-steppe-forest-cline.png

What's the difference between Ulchi and Naganassan? Is it the amount of MA-1 ancestry? Or is it differences their mongoloid ancestry, such as having Devil Gates related ancestry?

[Benim]

extreme Baikal type mongoloid, passes in east central asia(just as it is on K36)

[Ymyyakhtakh]

What's the difference between Ulchi and Naganassan? Is it the amount of MA-1 ancestry? Or is it differences their mongoloid ancestry, such as having Devil Gates related ancestry?

From the paper where the graph is from:


The Uralic- and Yeniseian-speaking populations, as well as Russians from multiple locations, derive most of their Eastern Eurasian ancestry from a component most enriched in Nganasans, while Turkic/Mongolic speakers have this component together with another component most enriched in populations from the Russian Far East, such as Ulchi and Nivkh (Supplementary Fig. 3). Turkic/Mongolic speakers comprising the bottom-most cline have a distinct Western Eurasian ancestry profile: they have a high proportion of a component most enriched in Mesolithic Caucasus hunter-gatherers[30] and Neolithic Iranians[20] and frequently harbour another component enriched in present-day South Asians (Supplementary Fig. 4). Based on the PCA and ADMIXTURE results, we heuristically assigned inner Eurasians to three clines: the 'forest-tundra' cline includes Russians and all Uralic and Yeniseian speakers; the 'steppe-forest' cline includes Turkic- and Mongolic-speaking populations from the Volga and Altai-Sayan regions and Southern Siberia; and the 'southern steppe' cline includes the rest of the populations.

Zabolotnie Tatars (who are a subgroup of Siberian Tatars) were probably modeled using the Nganasan and not Ulchi component because they're turkified Uralics (Nenets, Khanty, or Mansi).

[Synapsid]

From the paper where the graph is from:


The Uralic- and Yeniseian-speaking populations, as well as Russians from multiple locations, derive most of their Eastern Eurasian ancestry from a component most enriched in Nganasans, while Turkic/Mongolic speakers have this component together with another component most enriched in populations from the Russian Far East, such as Ulchi and Nivkh (Supplementary Fig. 3). Turkic/Mongolic speakers comprising the bottom-most cline have a distinct Western Eurasian ancestry profile: they have a high proportion of a component most enriched in Mesolithic Caucasus hunter-gatherers[30] and Neolithic Iranians[20] and frequently harbour another component enriched in present-day South Asians (Supplementary Fig. 4). Based on the PCA and ADMIXTURE results, we heuristically assigned inner Eurasians to three clines: the 'forest-tundra' cline includes Russians and all Uralic and Yeniseian speakers; the 'steppe-forest' cline includes Turkic- and Mongolic-speaking populations from the Volga and Altai-Sayan regions and Southern Siberia; and the 'southern steppe' cline includes the rest of the populations.

Zabolotnie Tatars (who are a subgroup of Siberian Tatars) were probably modeled using the Nganasan and not Ulchi component because they're turkified Uralics (Nenets, Khanty, or Mansi).

Yeah, but what is the component most enriched in Nganasans and the a component most enriched in Ulchis? That is the dilemma I am having. I know Ulchis and Nanais have high devil gates related ancestry, while Nagassans have some MA-1 releated ancestry (Ulchis lack any ANE). Non ANE part of Native Americans seems to be close to Ulchis (their founding mtDNA, D4, is high in ulchis). But what is the difference in the East Eurasian ancestry?

[Friedrich Ulrich]

Doesnt look Tatar imho,

Seems like kalmyk

[aherne]

Looks Mongol. Probably Kalmyk: she is unpassable as European Tatar/Bashkir

[Sora]

I assume she's Siberian Tatar. Because she looks too much Mongoloid for a Volga Tatar, even for a Crimean Tatar

Sibirid

[yamagi]

I got the feeling some people love degrading East Asian looks, it's pathetic and unhuman.

[Kamilla13]

I got the feeling some people love degrading East Asian looks, it's pathetic and unhuman.

I don't:).
I love how most East Asian people look.
And love their phenos.

[yamagi]

I don't:).
I love how most East Asian people look.
And love their phenos.

It wasn't pointed toward you but I appreciate your comment.

[tipirneni]

nice Buryat

[Thambi]

I got the feeling some people love degrading East Asian looks, it's pathetic and unhuman.

Umm on this forum, they’re the most fantasized people outside of european world. Im not sure who degraded their looks lol.

Anyways Siberid i think . Maybe tungid plus aralid could work as well.