South German GEDmatch results

[Peterski]

Bavarians (proper), Eurogenes K15:


Bavarian1,25.1,28.05,11.69,7.04,11.88,6.12,8.3,0.5 4,0,0,0,0.82,0.46,0,0
Bavarian2,25.86,27.62,13.86,6.01,14.1,5.3,5.91,0.2 9,0,0,0.94,0,0.1,0,0
Bavarian3,26.15,30.92,9.19,10.44,10.09,5.4,6.31,1. 3,0,0,0,0,0.12,0.08,0
Bavarian4,29.95,23,12.06,8.3,13.77,5.93,5.56,0,0,0 ,0,0.9,0.52,0,0
Bavarian5,28.83,20.91,10.06,10.92,11.03,11,5.79,1. 11,0.21,0,0,0.13,0,0,0
Bavarian6,31.04,21.51,11.48,7.67,12.15,6.35,8.51,0 ,0,0.87,0,0,0.42,0,0

Map:

https://i.imgur.com/LHwvS4N.png

Upper Swabians, Eurogenes K15:


Upper_Swabian1,25.58,24.63,13.52,8.39,10.93,8.01,7 .96,0,0,0,0,0.47,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian2,25.51,27.23,12.36,9.01,11.18,6.46,7 .53,0,0.21,0,0,0,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian3,26.73,26.64,13.78,6.78,12.25,3.51,9 .98,0.09,0,0,0,0.23,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian4,33.28,26.62,11.17,4.69,10.59,3.64,4 .46,2.73,1.76,0.58,0,0.46,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian5,26.96,23.21,11.97,7.86,9.64,7.52,11 .05,0,1.12,0,0,0.56,0.11,0,0
Upper_Swabian6,27.07,27.42,14.02,7.43,9.63,6.88,6. 46,0,0.69,0,0,0.2,0.16,0,0.05
Upper_Swabian7,28.2,25.22,14.05,7.61,11.73,7.03,4. 67,0.61,0,0.28,0.47,0,0,0,0.13

Map:

https://i.imgur.com/kOn9PWq.png

[Coastal Elite]

If I add them to K15, they come out as my closest populations due to a midpoint

Distance to: Daco_Celtic
4.17617049 Upper_Swabian5
4.54720793 Upper_Swabian1
5.69482221 Bavarian1
5.86671117 Upper_Swabian6
5.87577229 German_Bavarian
6.10682405 Upper_Swabian2
6.15732085 Austria-Tyrol
6.32363819 Bavarian6
6.33787030 Upper_Swabian7
6.71659884 Upper_Swabian3
7.12464034 Bavarian4
7.33038198 Bavarian2
8.33092432 Bavarian5
8.47151698 French
8.56407029 Italy_Aostavalley
8.57219342 South_Dutch
8.90731160 Belgium
9.38492408 West_German
10.13072554 Upper_Swabian4
10.14707840 Bavarian3
10.34191472 Austria-Burgenland
10.99064147 Italy_Trentino
12.00307461 Italy_Piedmont
12.38181328 North_German
12.56442995 Italy_Veneto

[Peterski]

Yes I do. But now there are two Bavarian K15 averages (do you know who made the other one?):


Bavarian_German,27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68, 6.73,0.54,0.04,0.15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian,27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7. 44,0.49,0.54,0.12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03

[Coastal Elite]

Yes I do. But now there are two Bavarian K15 averages (do you know who made the other one?):


Bavarian_German,27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68, 6.73,0.54,0.04,0.15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian,27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7. 44,0.49,0.54,0.12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03

Thanks. Not sure where the other Bavarian one came one, they are a little different from each other but in my top 3

Distance to: Daco_Celtic
4.60278177 Upper_Swabian
5.10208781 Bavarian_German
5.87577229 German_Bavarian
6.15732085 Austria-Tyrol
8.47151698 French
8.56407029 Italy_Aostavalley
8.57219342 South_Dutch
8.90731160 Belgium
9.38492408 West_German
10.34191472 Austria-Burgenland
10.99064147 Italy_Trentino
12.00307461 Italy_Piedmont
12.38181328 North_German
12.56442995 Italy_Veneto
12.76083853 Italy_Friuli
12.77948649 Szekely
12.87117322 France-South
13.21796505 East_German
13.31060855 Austrian
13.44093375 Southwest_English
13.88539160 Southeast_English
14.47978246 Hungarian
14.56319333 Dutch
14.57657024 Serbian
14.71791765 Spanish_Cataluna

[JQP4545]

Bavarians (proper), Eurogenes K15:


Bavarian1,25.1,28.05,11.69,7.04,11.88,6.12,8.3,0.5 4,0,0,0,0.82,0.46,0,0
Bavarian2,25.86,27.62,13.86,6.01,14.1,5.3,5.91,0.2 9,0,0,0.94,0,0.1,0,0
Bavarian3,26.15,30.92,9.19,10.44,10.09,5.4,6.31,1. 3,0,0,0,0,0.12,0.08,0
Bavarian4,29.95,23,12.06,8.3,13.77,5.93,5.56,0,0,0 ,0,0.9,0.52,0,0
Bavarian5,28.83,20.91,10.06,10.92,11.03,11,5.79,1. 11,0.21,0,0,0.13,0,0,0
Bavarian6,31.04,21.51,11.48,7.67,12.15,6.35,8.51,0 ,0,0.87,0,0,0.42,0,0

Map:

https://i.imgur.com/LHwvS4N.png

Upper Swabians, Eurogenes K15:


Upper_Swabian1,25.58,24.63,13.52,8.39,10.93,8.01,7 .96,0,0,0,0,0.47,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian2,25.51,27.23,12.36,9.01,11.18,6.46,7 .53,0,0.21,0,0,0,0.52,0,0
Upper_Swabian3,26.73,26.64,13.78,6.78,12.25,3.51,9 .98,0.09,0,0,0,0.23,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian4,33.28,26.62,11.17,4.69,10.59,3.64,4 .46,2.73,1.76,0.58,0,0.46,0,0,0
Upper_Swabian5,26.96,23.21,11.97,7.86,9.64,7.52,11 .05,0,1.12,0,0,0.56,0.11,0,0
Upper_Swabian6,27.07,27.42,14.02,7.43,9.63,6.88,6. 46,0,0.69,0,0,0.2,0.16,0,0.05
Upper_Swabian7,28.2,25.22,14.05,7.61,11.73,7.03,4. 67,0.61,0,0.28,0.47,0,0,0,0.13

Map:

https://i.imgur.com/kOn9PWq.png

Can you do K13 and Dodecad?

[Peterski]

Can you do K13 and Dodecad?

For Bavarians I can, for Upper Swabians no because their kits are no longer active (luckily I saved their K15, but not K13 and Dodecad).

Maybe the kits will be re-activated later, who knows.

[Gründig]

I think I did this right. It’s a pain in the ass doing it from my phone.

I’m not sure what the differences between the Bavarians are. Here are just the averages:

Distance to: G
3.70199946 German_Bavarian
4.39977272 Bavarian_German
4.55647890 Upper_Swabian
5.07261274 South_Dutch
6.90554125 Belgium
7.79351012 North_German
7.79404260 Austria-Tyrol
8.23745713 Austria-Burgenland
8.75599794 French
8.88010698 West_German
9.41241202 East_German
9.81033129 Southwest_English
10.37706124 Southeast_English
10.62625522 England
10.66115847 Dutch
11.54575247 North_Dutch
11.60542115 Italy_Aostavalley
11.62628488 Irish
11.91464645 Austrian
12.61438068 West_Scottish
12.61570450 Scotland
13.71497721 Hungarian
13.83536411 Danish
14.02068829 Kaykavian_Croatian
14.08120023 Czech


I’m pretty close to upper_swabian7. My great grandpa was from a small town not far from here. Here is everything:

Distance to: G
2.87424773 Upper_Swabian7
3.70199946 German_Bavarian
4.08061270 Upper_Swabian6
5.07261274 South_Dutch
5.44764169 Upper_Swabian2
5.51505213 Upper_Swabian1
6.18580633 Bavarian4
6.45845183 Bavarian2
6.66707582 Bavarian1
6.90554125 Belgium
7.63043904 Bavarian5
7.79351012 North_German
7.79404260 Austria-Tyrol
7.80337747 Bavarian3
8.11585485 Bavarian6
8.23745713 Austria-Burgenland
8.31170861 Upper_Swabian5
8.33543640 Upper_Swabian4
8.46910857 Upper_Swabian3
8.75599794 French
8.88010698 West_German
9.41241202 East_German
9.81033129 Southwest_English
10.37706124 Southeast_English
10.62625522 England

[Peterski]

^^^
Are you just a German-British mix or do you have some other ancestry too?

I'm surprised a German-British person plots so close to South Germans, because British admixture should be pulling you to the north.

[Dunai]

l am glad to see some more regional German results. Now that's a nation that deserves way more regional averages. I would be very curious of a Western German average, but which would also include the German people in Eastern France and Luxemburg, since they basically share common history and culture. My German roots mostly come from that area.

[Peterski]

I would be very curious of a Western German average

Generally, there are North-Western Germans and South-Western Germans.

Niedersachsen & Nordrhein-Westfalen are genetically Northern.

Baden-Württemberg, Rheinland-Pfalz & Saarland are Southern.

[Kyp]

Generally, there are North-Western Germans and South-Western Germans.

Niedersachsen & Nordrhein-Westfalen are genetically Northern.

Baden-Württemberg, Rheinland-Pfalz & Saarland are Southern.

Hessen?

[Peterski]

Hessen?

Hessen is intermediate. I have a kit from Hessen which scores very close to "West_German" average in K15/K13.

Yes I guess Hessen are "true West Germans". :p

[Peterski]

But another Hessen kit is Southern (so I guess it depends on the person):

His 8x great-grandparents are from:


1. Nordheim, Hessen
2. Nordheim, Hessen
3. Nordheim, Hessen
4. Nordheim, Hessen

5. Hofheim, Hessen
6. Hofheim, Hessen
7. Nordheim, Hessen
8. Nordheim, Hessen

Eurogenes K15 Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 29.63
2 Atlantic 28.22
3 West_Med 9.97
4 Baltic 9.43
5 Eastern_Euro 8.6
6 East_Med 6.55
7 West_Asian 4.59
8 Red_Sea 1.67
9 Sub-Saharan 0.56
10 Amerindian 0.44
11 Southeast_Asian 0.34
12 Oceanian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 2.85
2 French 6.09
3 Southwest_English 6.57
4 Southeast_English 6.62
5 West_German 6.88
6 North_German 6.98
7 Irish 8.37
8 Danish 8.57
9 West_Scottish 8.94
10 North_Dutch 9.07
11 Orcadian 10.38
12 East_German 11.05
13 Norwegian 12.23
14 Austrian 12.59
15 Swedish 13.01
16 Spanish_Cataluna 13.05
17 West_Norwegian 13.54
18 Spanish_Galicia 13.86
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.34
20 North_Swedish 14.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.3% Irish + 22.7% West_Sicilian @ 1.89
2 81.4% Southeast_English + 18.6% West_Sicilian @ 1.92
3 76.1% West_Scottish + 23.9% West_Sicilian @ 1.92
4 71.9% West_Scottish + 28.1% Tuscan @ 1.97
5 81.1% Southeast_English + 18.9% Greek @ 2.01
6 73.4% Irish + 26.6% Tuscan @ 2.1
7 85.3% Southeast_English + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.14
8 69.5% North_German + 30.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.15
9 81% Southeast_English + 19% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.18
10 85.6% Southeast_English + 14.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.19
11 75.7% West_Scottish + 24.3% Greek @ 2.24
12 78.2% Southeast_English + 21.8% Tuscan @ 2.26
13 82.9% Southeast_English + 17.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.29
14 83% Southeast_English + 17% East_Sicilian @ 2.29
15 82.2% Irish + 17.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.3
16 68.5% Danish + 31.5% North_Italian @ 2.3
17 69.9% North_German + 30.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.31
18 82.9% Southeast_English + 17.1% Central_Greek @ 2.33
19 67.6% West_Scottish + 32.4% North_Italian @ 2.33
20 84% Southeast_English + 16% South_Italian @ 2.35

[Kyp]

But another Hessen kit is Southern (so I guess it depends on the person):


Pretty close to my mother (except my mother has higher Baltic), makes sense considering location

[Peterski]

Pretty close to my mother (except my mother has higher Baltic), makes sense considering location

Yeah I just checked and Nordheim/Hofheim are located near Worms, basically the southernmost corner of Hessen:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Nordheim%2C%20Hessen#map=13/49.6717/8.4447

https://i.imgur.com/QBgkzOk.png

[Dunai]

Generally, there are North-Western Germans and South-Western Germans.

Niedersachsen & Nordrhein-Westfalen are genetically Northern.

Baden-Württemberg, Rheinland-Pfalz & Saarland are Southern.

That is correct, Western German has a Northern and Southern variant. South-Western German however definitely also contains the state of Hessen, Luxembourg, and the German areas of Elsass and Lothringen which are today in France. I have studied plenty of old birth certificates from that area while researching for my family tree and intermarriage between all these areas was very frequent.

[Peterski]

South-Western German however definitely also contains the state of Hessen

Northern Hessen - I do not think so. It would be interesting to compare the opposite corners of Hessen.

I only have kits from Southern and Central-South Hessen (the latter gets "West_German" in K15/K13).

[Kyp]

Northern Hessen - I do not think so. It would be interesting to compare the opposite corners of Hessen.

I only have kits from Southern and Central-South Hessen (the latter gets "West_German" in K15/K13).


Correction: Not that close

Distance to: Mother_Kyp
4.90691349 German_Bavarian
5.25583485 South_Dutch
6.77096743 North_German
6.89772426 Southhessen

[JQP4545]

Generally, there are North-Western Germans and South-Western Germans.

Niedersachsen & Nordrhein-Westfalen are genetically Northern.

Baden-Württemberg, Rheinland-Pfalz & Saarland are Southern.

I would like to see more GEDMatch kits from the Southwest of Germany.

[Peterski]

Correction: Not that close

Distance to: Mother_Kyp
4.90691349 German_Bavarian
5.25583485 South_Dutch
6.77096743 North_German
6.89772426 Southhessen

Another one, from Zeilsheim-Höchst-Sindlingen area, Southern Hessen (but not as extreme southern):

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 30.37 Pct
Atlantic 26.25 Pct
Baltic 9.33 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.85 Pct
West_Med 10.13 Pct
West_Asian 4.13 Pct
East_Med 8.18 Pct
Red_Sea 0.56 Pct
South_Asian 0.52 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.27 Pct
Oceanian 0.42 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 42.37
2 Baltic 23.27
3 West_Med 14.85
4 East_Med 9.38
5 West_Asian 6.85
6 Red_Sea 1.08
7 Oceanian 0.65
8 Amerindian 0.57
9 South_Asian 0.55
10 Siberian 0.31
11 Sub-Saharan 0.11

K13 Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 1.4
2 South_Dutch 3.19
3 French 7.11
4 Austrian 7.5
5 North_German 8.22
6 Southeast_English 8.32
7 East_German 9.45
8 Danish 9.83
9 North_Dutch 9.88
10 Orcadian 10.19
11 Southwest_English 10.31
12 Irish 11.21
13 Hungarian 11.66
14 West_Scottish 11.73
15 Norwegian 12.04
16 Swedish 12.33
17 Spanish_Cataluna 14.77
18 Serbian 15
19 Portuguese 15.77
20 North_Swedish 15.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.5% Southeast_English + 28.5% Bulgarian @ 0.68
2 68.3% Southeast_English + 31.7% Romanian @ 0.69
3 93.2% West_German + 6.8% Serbian @ 0.88
4 91.6% West_German + 8.4% Hungarian @ 0.92
5 94.4% West_German + 5.6% Croatian @ 0.96
6 88% West_German + 12% Austrian @ 0.97
7 94.8% West_German + 5.2% Moldavian @ 0.98
8 94.7% West_German + 5.3% Romanian @ 0.99
9 95.5% West_German + 4.5% Bulgarian @ 1
10 96% West_German + 4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.08
11 96.7% West_German + 3.3% Southwest_Russian @ 1.08
12 96.2% West_German + 3.8% Ukrainian @ 1.09
13 95.8% West_German + 4.2% South_Polish @ 1.09
14 96.8% West_German + 3.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.1
15 97% West_German + 3% Estonian_Polish @ 1.13
16 97% West_German + 3% Belorussian @ 1.13
17 91.8% West_German + 8.2% East_German @ 1.13
18 97% West_German + 3% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.13
19 96.6% West_German + 3.4% Polish @ 1.15
20 97.1% West_German + 2.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.16

[Jana]

I am not sure entire NRW state is genetically NW. As for Hessen, it should have a cline.
Northern Hessen is probably more NW. But overall I am pretty sure Hessen is closer to SW German than NW German average.

[Jana]

Btw, we should make German regional averages for K13 :)

[Jana]

Northern Hessen - I do not think so. It would be interesting to compare the opposite corners of Hessen.

I only have kits from Southern and Central-South Hessen (the latter gets "West_German" in K15/K13).

Could you post other Hessen kits if you have? I'd like to make K13 average.
if you have K13 of that southern shifted Hessian kit too, please.

[Peterski]

Thuringia is already very Slavic-shifted (except maybe North-West Thuringia) so there is a quite sharp transition from East to West Germans too (not just from North to South Germans).

[Leto]

Thuringia is already very Slavic-shifted (except maybe North-West Thuringia) so there is a quite sharp transition from East to West Germans too (not just from North to South Germans).
But East Germany was a fucking political designation. Thuringia is not Eastern geographically.

[Leto]

Btw, we should make German regional averages for K13 :)
There are West_German, North_German, East_German and also two Dutch and one Austrian. I mean there are entire nations that weren't included at all (Albanians, Czechs, Slovaks for example).

[Gründig]

^^^
Are you just a German-British mix or do you have some other ancestry too?

I'm surprised a German-British person plots so close to South Germans, because British admixture should be pulling you to the north.

Here’s the DNA test I used:

https://i.imgur.com/7qfszGn.jpg

My 23andme results are very similar, the only difference is 3.5% Eastern European.

[Jana]

There are West_German, North_German, East_German and also two Dutch and one Austrian. I mean there are entire nations that weren't included at all (Albanians, Czechs, Slovaks for example).

They are in updated K13. Germany is large country where each state has it's own long history, it def. deserves more detailed regional averages IMO :)

[Peterski]

Many of my German kits are no longer active after Verogen and I did not save their K13 before.

Anyway, here is the other Hessen kit that is still active (I will check if any more are still active):

Eurogenes K13:
North_Atlantic 43.69 Pct
Baltic 22.35 Pct
West_Med 14.83 Pct
West_Asian 4.48 Pct
East_Med 10.49 Pct
Red_Sea 1.78 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.69 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.86 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.60 Pct

So here are K13 and K15 averages for South_Hessen (n=2, so far):


South_Hessen_K13,43.03,22.81,14.84,5.67,9.94,1.43, 0.28,0.35,0.16,0.72,0.44,0,0.36
South_Hessen_K15,30.0,27.24,9.38,9.23,10.05,4.36,7 .37,1.12,0.26,0.17,0,0.36,0.21,0,0.28

I also made Masurian K13 average from n=5 kits that are still active:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masurians#Population_size


Masurian_K13,31.66,44.71,11.83,4.12,2.82,1.20,0.89 ,0.20,1.14,0.39,0.29,0.17,0.58
Masurian_K15,25.23,16.34,27.09,19.69,7.30,1.66,0.3 1,0.88,0.45,0.07,0.25,0.12,0.17,0.11,0.36

Later on I will update both of these averages with more samples.

[Leto]

I'd like to compare Grand Est, France and Baden-Württemberg, Germany

Grand Est
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Grand_Est_in_France_2016.svg/499px-Grand_Est_in_France_2016.svg.png

Baden-Württemberg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Locator_map_Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg_in_Germany.svg/443px-Locator_map_Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg_in_Germany.svg.png

[Peterski]

^^^
Alsatian Germans are similar to Swiss Germans. Local French are already a bit different than that.

[Jana]

Thank you! Looking forward for Polish regions too. NE Europe doesn't have many regional averages, even big countries like Poland or Ukraine, Russia.

[Jana]

Alsatian Germans are similar to Swiss Germans.

They should be since both are Alemanic, except far northern Alsace which is Frankish.
But I am suprised how northern and Germanic admixed Alsatian G25 samples are, more than I tought.

[Luke35]

Here is my mom's result. I took all the new German codes from this thread + England.

Besides (1) British great-grandparent, all other known ancestors of my mother are German. Mostly West Germans, some Bavarian's, as far as I know. It was always said that we had a line that traced back to Prussia, but I'm not as sure about that. So, to demonstrate how an American with mostly German ancestry scores with these new codes, here it is:

Distance to: MrG-mom
5.26476970 Upper_Swabian4
5.27891087 South_Hessen_K15
5.45836972 Upper_Swabian7
5.60989305 Southwest_English
5.98121225 Southeast_English
6.17165294 Bavarian_German
6.20327333 Upper_Swabian
6.31744410 Bavarian4
6.36309673 England
6.41809162 Upper_Swabian6
7.85221625 Upper_Swabian2
7.91901509 Bavarian6
8.47957546 Bavarian3
8.50990599 Bavarian2
8.74243101 Upper_Swabian1
8.95420572 Bavarian1
9.08414553 Upper_Swabian3
9.73797207 Bavarian5
10.00530859 Upper_Swabian5

Target: MrG-mom
Distance: 1.4318% / 1.43177204 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Upper_Swabian7
38.0 England
15.0 South_Hessen_K15
4.4 Upper_Swabian4

Target: MrG-mom
Distance: 1.3737% / 1.37373094
45.2 England
37.6 Upper_Swabian7
10.0 Upper_Swabian5
5.0 South_Hessen_K15
2.2 Upper_Swabian4


Here with just the averages (Bavarian, Swabian, Hessen)

Target: MrG-mom
Distance: 1.6938% / 1.69376940 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Upper_Swabian
49.2 England


My mom's AncestryDNA:

https://i.imgur.com/ExJ0Gah.png


Her K15 plot:

https://i.imgur.com/hB08jmh.png

[Impaler]

I don't know how accurate is for me, but I have some Swabian in my results:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.9085% / 2.90850112 | ADC: 0.25x
34.6 Upper_Swabian5
23.8 Gagauz
13.4 Bulgarian_Thracian
9.2 GR_Peloponese
7.6 Jordanian
5.4 Afghan_Uzbeki
3.6 North_Kannadi
2.4 Iranian_Bandari

[Peterski]

But I am suprised how northern and Germanic admixed Alsatian G25 samples are, more than I tought.

^^^
Aren't they closest to Swiss Germans in G25 ???

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop
Distance: 1624.1117% / 16.24111686
97.8 Bavarian2
2.2 Bavarian3

Distance to: Gallop
16.24210885 Bavarian2
17.10753051 Bavarian1
18.20322499 Bavarian3
18.50391580 Bavarian_German
18.66175501 Upper_Swabian2
19.39545565 Upper_Swabian3
19.55655389 Upper_Swabian7
19.60763627 Upper_Swabian
19.62927660 Bavarian4
20.08572379 Upper_Swabian1
20.20601643 Upper_Swabian6
20.89849277 Upper_Swabian4
21.87078874 Bavarian6
22.02980708 Upper_Swabian5
22.28098068 Bavarian5

[Jana]

^^^
Aren't they closest to Swiss Germans in G25 ???

Can you check? I tried to download modern spreadsheet on laptop, refuses to load for some reason.

[Jana]

I don't know how accurate is for me, but I have some Swabian in my results:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.8936% / 2.89355894 | ADC: 0.25x
31.8 Upper_Swabian5
24.2 Gagauz
16.2 Bulgarian_Thracian
9.8 GR_Peloponese
5.6 Afghan_Uzbeki
5.4 Jordanian
3.4 Lebanese_Druze
3.0 North_Kannadi
0.6 Velamas

You score very significant Germanic all the time for Wallachian/Greek, so I think it must be real.

[Peterski]

Baden-Württemberg, Germany

This is a German Jew 3/4 from Baden-Württemberg. Grandparents are from:

- born in Ulm/Donau, Baden-Württemberg, died in Auschwitz 1942
- born in Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, died in Auschwitz 1942
- born in Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg, died in 1928
- born in Erfurt, Thüringen, died in 1937

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 14.72 Pct
Baltic 6.34 Pct
West_Med 18.42 Pct
West_Asian 9.52 Pct
East_Med 42.94 Pct
Red_Sea 4.62 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.94 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.17 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.33 Pct

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 8.72 Pct
Atlantic 12.81 Pct
Baltic 4.89 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.18 Pct
West_Med 13.96 Pct
West_Asian 12.42 Pct
East_Med 34.44 Pct
Red_Sea 7.11 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.58 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.87 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Eurogenes JTest:

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 4.64 Pct
EAST_EURO 0.45 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 5.63 Pct
ATLANTIC 4.03 Pct
WEST_MED 11.34 Pct
ASHKENAZI 34.53 Pct
EAST_MED 24.97 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 5.32 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.07 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.49 Pct
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.52 Pct
WEST_AFRICAN -

Dodecad K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 4.66 Pct
Siberian 1.15 Pct
Northwest_African 4.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 25.72 Pct
North_European 10.42 Pct
South_Asian 0.15 Pct
East_African 0.94 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.45 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 37.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Impaler]

You score very significant Germanic all the time for Wallachian/Greek, so I think it must be real.

Without adding the new samples I still score Germanic, and the fit is better with the new ones:


Target: Impaler
Distance: 3.4432% / 3.44317322 | ADC: 0.25x
37.6 Szekely
31.8 GR_Peloponese
10.4 Lebanese_Druze
6.0 West_German
4.0 Gagauz
3.2 Kol
3.2 Macedonian
2.8 Makrani
1.0 Austroasiatic_Ho

[Leto]

@Peterski, that's an interesting sample but he is not an ethnic German. By the way, add HarappaWorld (very good for Jews) and MDLP K23b, I will copy that sample for myself.

[Peterski]

@Peterski, that's an interesting sample but he is not an ethnic German. By the way, add HarappaWorld (very good for Jews) and MDLP K23b, I will copy that sample for myself.

Harappa World:

Population
S-Indian 0.10 Pct
Baloch 8.06 Pct
Caucasian 34.69 Pct
NE-Euro 12.99 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 1.61 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American -
Beringian -
Mediterranean 25.55 Pct
SW-Asian 15.23 Pct
San -
E-African 1.57 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African 0.21 Pct

MDLP K23b:

Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic -
South_Central_Asian 7.30 Pct
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid -
Austronesian 0.10 Pct
Caucasian 37.23 Pct
Archaic_Human -
East_African 0.78 Pct
East_Siberian 1.70 Pct
European_Early_Farmers 22.69 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.21 Pct
Archaic_African 0.46 Pct
Near_East 12.23 Pct
North_African 7.88 Pct
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy 0.06 Pct
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.33 Pct

[Peterski]

I would like to see more GEDMatch kits from the Southwest of Germany.

From Wiesloch, Baden-Württemberg:

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 27.21 Pct
Atlantic 25.06 Pct
Baltic 7.57 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.93 Pct
West_Med 10.53 Pct
West_Asian 7.20 Pct
East_Med 8.59 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.59 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.86 Pct
Northeast_African 0.41 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 40.67 Pct
Baltic 21.46 Pct
West_Med 14.83 Pct
West_Asian 8.01 Pct
East_Med 11.45 Pct
Red_Sea 0.20 Pct
South_Asian 0.19 Pct
East_Asian 0.31 Pct
Siberian 1.25 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian 1.06 Pct
Northeast_African 0.27 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[Leto]

Apparently some Germans aren't completely Northern European.

[JQP4545]

Apparently some Germans aren't completely Northern European.

I think they are for the most part. The ones from the south are about the same as the ones from the north with one grandparent from the Mediterranean.

[Peterski]

Apparently some Germans aren't completely Northern European.

The ones from the south are about the same as the ones from the north with one grandparent from the Mediterranean.

In two-way Oracles some South Germans score like 1/2 North German + 1/2 Bergamo Italian (for example).

[Kyp]

In two-way Oracles some South Germans score like 1/2 North German + 1/2 Bergamo Italian (for example).

And Bergamo Italian is completely Medittereanan Islander?

[Peterski]

And Bergamo Italian is completely Medittereanan Islander?

No but it is similar to Bronze Age and Iron Age populations of the same area (North Italy and Western Balkans).

[Leto]

Bergamo is still not Palermo :)

[Peterski]

Well depends what you consider Mediterranean but if Bergamo-like populations have lived at the coast of the Mediterranean Sea since the Bronze Age then I would say they have earned the right to be called Mediterranean.

They are West or North Mediterranean.

Of course they have lots of Steppe ancestry.

[Gründig]

^^^
Are you just a German-British mix or do you have some other ancestry too?

I'm surprised a German-British person plots so close to South Germans, because British admixture should be pulling you to the north.

I just found out that previously unknown family members were actually Swiss Germans. They were from Obstalden in Glarus. This would definitely help explain my pull towards southern Germans.

In other words, I have more southern German ancestry than I thought.

[Peterski]

Can you do K13 and Dodecad?

Bavarians in Eurogenes K13:


Bavarian_German,40.61,22.71,16.63,7.54,9.86,0.78,0 .31,0.23,0.24,0.59,0.47,0.03,0


Bavarian1,40.77,21.51,16.8,6.54,11.33,0.87,0.22,0, 0,1.17,0.78,0,0
Bavarian2,44.02,22.12,14.38,6.79,10.35,1.45,0,0.17 ,0,0,0.51,0.2,0
Bavarian3,41.54,22.63,18.47,5.92,8.74,0.88,0.23,0, 1.45,0,0.14,0,0
Bavarian4,37.29,23.77,15.29,11.37,8.96,1.36,1.18,0 ,0,0.77,0,0,0
Bavarian5,39.79,22.67,16.24,7.78,11.2,0,0.2,1.23,0 ,0.27,0.61,0,0
Bavarian6,40.27,23.57,18.57,6.82,8.57,0.14,0,0,0,1 .31,0.75,0,0

Bavarians in Dodecad K12b:


Bavarian_German,6.87,0.32,0.56,0.11,35.71,39.06,0. 15,0,2.40,0.06,14.77,0


Bavarian1,5.43,0.52,1.43,0,34.41,39.24,0,0,3.23,0, 15.74,0
Bavarian2,7.29,0,0,0,36.65,39.28,0,0,3.16,0.34,13. 28,0
Bavarian3,5.83,0.67,0,0,36.51,39.19,0,0,2.98,0,14. 82,0
Bavarian4,7.57,0.09,0.79,0,33.64,39.83,0.89,0,2.16 ,0,15.02,0
Bavarian5,8.59,0,1.13,0.65,36.36,37.43,0,0,1.44,0, 14.41,0
Bavarian6,6.53,0.63,0,0,36.67,39.4,0,0,1.42,0,15.3 5,0

[Armatus]

Great sample collection !

Bavarian3,41.54,22.63,18.47,5.92,8.74,0.88,0.23,0, 1.45,0,0.14,0,0
ArmatusX,41.82,21.25,18.52,8.89,6.35,2.11,0,0,0,0. 32,0.22,0.54,0

I am really close to this sample, do you know from which part of Bavaria he/she is ? I am 1/2 SW Bavarian and 1/2 NW Rhineland Palatinate, but I am barely more western than this kit.

I like K15 better, my shift to the West is more visible.

Bavarian_German, 27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68,6.73,0.54,0.04,0 .15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian, 27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7.44,0.49,0.54,0 .12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03
South_Hessen, 30.0,27.24,9.38,9.23,10.05,4.36,7.37,1.12,0.26,0.1 7,0,0.36,0.21,0,0.28
Baden_Württemberg, 27.21,25.06,7.57,11.93,10.53,7.20,8.59,0,0,0,0.59, 0,0.86,0,0.41,0
Armatus, 32.72,22.25,8.54,8.80,14.59,6.79,3.54,2.23,0,0,0,0 ,0,0.54,0
Swiss_German, 29.02,24.29,11.25,7.06,13.51,5.61,7.40,1.10,0.15,0 .01,0.10,0.21,0.17,0.07,0.04

Weirdly Baden-W. has more East Euro than Bavaria.

[Kyp]

My mother's updated V3 results:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?324009-Kyp-Snow-s-mother-V3-Gedmatch-results-(updated)



K13_Lower_Franconia,41.43,26.82,15.90,6.36,5.21,1. 33,0.77,0.60,0,0.75,0,0.83,0
K15_Lower_Franconia,29.06,25.58,16.06,8.56,9.63,5. 54,3.36,1.18,0.31,0.18,0,0.49,0,0,0

[Gründig]

Great sample collection !

Bavarian3,41.54,22.63,18.47,5.92,8.74,0.88,0.23,0, 1.45,0,0.14,0,0
ArmatusX,41.82,21.25,18.52,8.89,6.35,2.11,0,0,0,0. 32,0.22,0.54,0

I am really close to this sample, do you know from which part of Bavaria he/she is ? I am 1/2 SW Bavarian and 1/2 NW Rhineland Palatinate, but I am barely more western than this kit.

I like K15 better, my shift to the West is more visible.

Bavarian_German, 27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68,6.73,0.54,0.04,0 .15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian, 27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7.44,0.49,0.54,0 .12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03
South_Hessen, 30.0,27.24,9.38,9.23,10.05,4.36,7.37,1.12,0.26,0.1 7,0,0.36,0.21,0,0.28
Baden_Württemberg, 27.21,25.06,7.57,11.93,10.53,7.20,8.59,0,0,0,0.59, 0,0.86,0,0.41,0
Armatus, 32.72,22.25,8.54,8.80,14.59,6.79,3.54,2.23,0,0,0,0 ,0,0.54,0
Swiss_German, 29.02,24.29,11.25,7.06,13.51,5.61,7.40,1.10,0.15,0 .01,0.10,0.21,0.17,0.07,0.04

Weirdly Baden-W. has more East Euro than Bavaria.

The samples are for k15? I can’t get it to work for some reason.

[Gründig]

Great sample collection !

Bavarian3,41.54,22.63,18.47,5.92,8.74,0.88,0.23,0, 1.45,0,0.14,0,0
ArmatusX,41.82,21.25,18.52,8.89,6.35,2.11,0,0,0,0. 32,0.22,0.54,0

I am really close to this sample, do you know from which part of Bavaria he/she is ? I am 1/2 SW Bavarian and 1/2 NW Rhineland Palatinate, but I am barely more western than this kit.

I like K15 better, my shift to the West is more visible.

Bavarian_German, 27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68,6.73,0.54,0.04,0 .15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian, 27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7.44,0.49,0.54,0 .12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03
South_Hessen, 30.0,27.24,9.38,9.23,10.05,4.36,7.37,1.12,0.26,0.1 7,0,0.36,0.21,0,0.28
Baden_Württemberg, 27.21,25.06,7.57,11.93,10.53,7.20,8.59,0,0,0,0.59, 0,0.86,0,0.41,0
Armatus, 32.72,22.25,8.54,8.80,14.59,6.79,3.54,2.23,0,0,0,0 ,0,0.54,0
Swiss_German, 29.02,24.29,11.25,7.06,13.51,5.61,7.40,1.10,0.15,0 .01,0.10,0.21,0.17,0.07,0.04

Weirdly Baden-W. has more East Euro than Bavaria.

The samples are for k15? I can’t get it to work for some reason.

[Armatus]

The samples are for k15? I can’t get it to work for some reason.



Bavarian_German,27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68, 6.73,0.54,0.04,0.15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian,27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7. 44,0.49,0.54,0.12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03
South_Hessen,30.0,27.24,9.38,9.23,10.05,4.36,7.37, 1.12,0.26,0.17,0,0.36,0.21,0,0.28
Baden_Württemberg,27.21,25.06,7.57,11.93,10.53,7.2 0,8.59,0,0,0,0.59,0,0.86,0,0.41,0
ArmatusRPBY,32.72,22.25,8.54,8.80,14.59,6.79,3.54, 2.23,0,0,0,0,0,0.54,0
Swiss_German,29.02,24.29,11.25,7.06,13.51,5.61,7.4 0,1.10,0.15,0.01,0.10,0.21,0.17,0.07,0.04


Might work now.

[JQP4545]

Great sample collection !

Bavarian3,41.54,22.63,18.47,5.92,8.74,0.88,0.23,0, 1.45,0,0.14,0,0
ArmatusX,41.82,21.25,18.52,8.89,6.35,2.11,0,0,0,0. 32,0.22,0.54,0

I am really close to this sample, do you know from which part of Bavaria he/she is ? I am 1/2 SW Bavarian and 1/2 NW Rhineland Palatinate, but I am barely more western than this kit.

I like K15 better, my shift to the West is more visible.

Bavarian_German, 27.82,25.34,11.39,8.40,12.17,6.68,6.73,0.54,0.04,0 .15,0.16,0.31,0.27,0.01,0
Upper_Swabian, 27.62,25.85,12.98,7.40,10.85,6.15,7.44,0.49,0.54,0 .12,0.07,0.27,0.19,0,0.03
South_Hessen, 30.0,27.24,9.38,9.23,10.05,4.36,7.37,1.12,0.26,0.1 7,0,0.36,0.21,0,0.28
Baden_Württemberg, 27.21,25.06,7.57,11.93,10.53,7.20,8.59,0,0,0,0.59, 0,0.86,0,0.41,0
Armatus, 32.72,22.25,8.54,8.80,14.59,6.79,3.54,2.23,0,0,0,0 ,0,0.54,0
Swiss_German, 29.02,24.29,11.25,7.06,13.51,5.61,7.40,1.10,0.15,0 .01,0.10,0.21,0.17,0.07,0.04

Weirdly Baden-W. has more East Euro than Bavaria.

When I try to use this it says "variable column number in source data".

[JQP4545]

I added the samples to the Eurogenes K15 and got this for my mom:

Target: Rosanne
Distance: 1.1212% / 1.12118787
43.2 Baden_Württemberg
38.4 Scotland
8.2 French_Basque
5.4 Sardinian
3.0 Aland_Sweden
0.6 Chamar
0.6 West_Norwegian
0.4 North_Swedish
0.2 South_Hessen

[JQP4545]

I added the samples to the Eurogenes K15 and got this for my mom:

Target: Rosanne
Distance: 1.1212% / 1.12118787
43.2 Baden_Württemberg
38.4 Scotland
8.2 French_Basque
5.4 Sardinian
3.0 Aland_Sweden
0.6 Chamar
0.6 West_Norwegian
0.4 North_Swedish
0.2 South_Hessen

[Gründig]

Surprisingly I’m pretty far from the Baden_Württemberg sample. I’m much closer to the 2 Bavarian samples and upper_swabian.

[dududud]

^^^
Alsatian Germans are similar to Swiss Germans. Local French are already a bit different than that.

I don't think so, according to the last study on the French population: the Alsatians are ultimately only Germanized French, the "German" contribution is not enormous.

They are mainly descendants of the indigenous populations of France.

[Kyp]

I don't think so, according to the last study on the French population: the Alsatians are ultimately only Germanized French, the "German" contribution is not enormous.

They are mainly descendants of the indigenous populations of France.

I'm inclined to believe they are German/French mix:

Distance to: FRA_Alsace
1.92758917 Swiss_German
2.70159212 German_Bavarian
3.61806578 FRA_Belgica
4.70410459 South_Dutch
5.41181116 Austria-Tyrol
6.28552305 FRA_Central
6.45486638 Belgium
6.72106390 West_German
7.86366963 Austria-Burgenland
8.37105728 Italy_Aostavalley
9.11087811 FRA_Armorica
9.98108211 North_German
10.00780196 East_German
10.12868205 Southwest_English
11.18629519 Southeast_English
11.54807776 English_North
11.54856701 France-South
11.55506383 Italy_Trentino
11.57033707 Dutch
11.75243379 England
11.84345811 English_Midlands
12.40903703 Austrian
12.58381103 Welsh
12.58928910 North_Dutch
12.90858242 Italy_Piedmont

[Peterski]

Lower Franconia 100%:

K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 6.52 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.63 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 35.66 Pct
North_European 41.99 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.09 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.23 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 12.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 40.72 Pct
Baltic 24.35 Pct
West_Med 16.28 Pct
West_Asian 7.66 Pct
East_Med 8.7 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.43 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.14 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.53 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.17 Pct

K15:

Population
North_Sea 33.83 Pct
Atlantic 20.88 Pct
Baltic 11.17 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.63 Pct
West_Med 11.86 Pct
West_Asian 6.18 Pct
East_Med 6.28 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.74 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.43 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

=====

K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 6.71 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.43 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 35.6 Pct
North_European 41.4 Pct
South_Asian 0.39 Pct
East_African 0.55 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.05 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 12.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 39.77 Pct
Baltic 24.42 Pct
West_Med 16.64 Pct
West_Asian 8 Pct
East_Med 8.49 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.69 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.19 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.64 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.15 Pct

K15:

Population
North_Sea 33.02 Pct
Atlantic 20.46 Pct
Baltic 11.14 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.07 Pct
West_Med 12.2 Pct
West_Asian 6.63 Pct
East_Med 6.05 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.83 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.61 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[Smitty]

Lower Franconia 100%:

K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 6.52 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.63 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 35.66 Pct
North_European 41.99 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.09 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.23 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 12.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 40.72 Pct
Baltic 24.35 Pct
West_Med 16.28 Pct
West_Asian 7.66 Pct
East_Med 8.7 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.43 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.14 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.53 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.17 Pct

K15:

Population
North_Sea 33.83 Pct
Atlantic 20.88 Pct
Baltic 11.17 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.63 Pct
West_Med 11.86 Pct
West_Asian 6.18 Pct
East_Med 6.28 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.74 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.43 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

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K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 6.71 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.43 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 35.6 Pct
North_European 41.4 Pct
South_Asian 0.39 Pct
East_African 0.55 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.05 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 12.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 39.77 Pct
Baltic 24.42 Pct
West_Med 16.64 Pct
West_Asian 8 Pct
East_Med 8.49 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.69 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.19 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.64 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.15 Pct

K15:

Population
North_Sea 33.02 Pct
Atlantic 20.46 Pct
Baltic 11.14 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.07 Pct
West_Med 12.2 Pct
West_Asian 6.63 Pct
East_Med 6.05 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.83 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.61 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Do you have oracles for this one?

[noricum]

My K15, distances are HUGE

Distance to: noricum(austrian)
12.63339622 Upper_Swabian1
12.93207253 Upper_Swabian3
12.94745149 Upper_Swabian2
13.40163796 Upper_Swabian6
13.92984566 Upper_Swabian7
14.23731014 Upper_Swabian5
14.26965662 Bavarian2
14.39911108 Bavarian1
15.50006774 Bavarian4
16.06937460 Bavarian3
16.35792163 Bavarian6
17.18220882 Bavarian5
19.11043694 Upper_Swabian4

[Kyp]

Lower Franconia 100%:



Do you know from where exactly?

[Leto]

Do you know from where exactly?
Das ist Unterfranken was du wahrscheinlich weißt:D :rolleyes:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Locator_map_RB_Unterfranken_in_Bavaria.svg/487px-Locator_map_RB_Unterfranken_in_Bavaria.svg.png

[Kyp]

Das ist Unterfranken was du wahrscheinlich weißt:D :rolleyes:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Locator_map_RB_Unterfranken_in_Bavaria.svg/487px-Locator_map_RB_Unterfranken_in_Bavaria.svg.png

Ja ich komme aus Unterfranken, deshalb wollte ich den genauen Ort wissen. Das Resultat jedoch ist ein wenig westlicher als das meiner Mutter.

[Kyp]

100% Rhineland-Palatinate

K15:
North_Sea 27.59 Pct
Atlantic 27.08 Pct
Baltic 11.11 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.73 Pct
West_Med 10.19 Pct
West_Asian 6.62 Pct
East_Med 6.15 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.38 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.49 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.61 Pc

Distance to: RheinlandP
2.65785628 German_Bavarian
5.13665261 French_Alsace
5.60690646 French_North-East
5.69805230 Swiss_German
6.27001595 Belgium
7.18977747 Austria-Tyrol
7.82076723 Pennsylvania_Dutch
7.93615146 Dutch_South
8.09098264 French_Central
8.31891820 North_German
8.39848201 French_Brittany
8.54439582 Austria-Burgenland
8.80042613 West_German
9.62006757 English_Southeast
10.30285883 East_German
10.44597530 English_Midlands
10.48154092 English
10.64434122 English_Southwest
10.83948338 Italy_Aostavalley
10.87246062 Dutch
11.06586644 Welsh
11.09858099 English_North
11.12898917 Dutch_Central
11.58464501 Austrian
11.82406445 Scottish

Target: RheinlandP
Distance: 2.4243% / 2.42426754 | ADC: 0.5x RC
84.3 German_Bavarian
8.3 North_German
7.4 Austrian


k13
North_Atlantic 42.12 Pct
Baltic 23.57 Pct
West_Med 14.3 Pct
West_Asian 7.75 Pct
East_Med 9.45 Pct
Red_Sea 0.11 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.09 Pct
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian 0.14 Pct
Northeast_African 0.72 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.47 Pct

Distance to: RhinelandP
3.53083560 German_West
3.80696730 France_Alsace
4.53463339 Swiss_German2
4.65271963 Swiss_German
4.94446155 Pennsylvania_Dutch
5.11156532 France_north-east
5.40317499 German
5.59136835 Afrikaner
6.11901953 Dutch_South
7.79721104 Swiss_French
8.35977871 Austrian
8.86327817 France_north-west
8.89808406 France_Central
9.14424956 English_Southeast
9.33879543 North_German
9.39586079 Dutch
9.56946184 English_Midlands
10.03319490 English
10.24957560 Dutch_Central
10.44077104 English_Southwest
10.81118402 English_North
10.93038426 Dutch_North
11.09099635 Welsh
11.56174295 French
12.01913474 IT_Aosta_Valley

Target: RhinelandP
Distance: 1.4855% / 1.48547707 | ADC: 0.25x RC
90.0 German_West
7.7 Greek_Northern-Thrace
2.3 Greek_Istanbul

[Peterski]

Do you know from where exactly?

Kreise: Bad Kissingen, Schweinfurt, Würzburg.


My K15, distances are HUGE

Distance to: noricum(austrian)
12.63339622 Upper_Swabian1
12.93207253 Upper_Swabian3
12.94745149 Upper_Swabian2
13.40163796 Upper_Swabian6
13.92984566 Upper_Swabian7
14.23731014 Upper_Swabian5
14.26965662 Bavarian2
14.39911108 Bavarian1
15.50006774 Bavarian4
16.06937460 Bavarian3
16.35792163 Bavarian6
17.18220882 Bavarian5
19.11043694 Upper_Swabian4

You have a lot of Slavic ancestry!

[Smitty]

My mom is 1/4 Upper Franconian. By restricting the populations to relevant ones, I got this result for her. Almost spot on.

Target: Mom
Distance: 3.2601% / 3.26007620
29.3 Danish
26.3 Unterfranken (from Peterski's post)
24.6 Sorb_Lusatia
12.1 Armenian_West
4.9 Sicily_Agrigento
2.0 South_Polish
0.8 East_Sicilian

[Kyp]

My mom is 1/4 Upper Franconian. By restricting the populations to relevant ones, I got this result for her. Almost spot on.

Target: Mom
Distance: 3.2601% / 3.26007620
29.3 Danish
26.3 Unterfranken (from Peterski's post)
24.6 Sorb_Lusatia
12.1 Armenian_West
4.9 Sicily_Agrigento
2.0 South_Polish
0.8 East_Sicilian

My mother is Lower Franconian maybe you are interested:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?324009-Kyp-Snow-s-mother-V3-Gedmatch-results-(updated)

[Smitty]

My mother is Lower Franconian maybe you are interested:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?324009-Kyp-Snow-s-mother-V3-Gedmatch-results-(updated)

Very interested. Thank you for the link.