My Y-DNA tree on the father's and mother's side

[MiloshN]

https://i.imgur.com/VVccY9F.png

[Artek]

Impressive. I didn't test that many lines though I think I will try to eventually test all of my known (genealogically traceable) ancestral lines that still exist.

[Rocinante]

All i know is that my paternal grandfather is R1b-L21 and my maternal one is R1b something, maybe R1b-Z2103 or R1b-U152, not so sure.

[Leto]

Pretty much three unsurprising haplogroups. Yet I have not seen you being active in the debates about Serbian/Croatian autosomal/Gedmatch results. Pribislav even decided to leave TA in the wake of that.

[Luso]

All i know is that my paternal grandfather is R1b-L21 and my maternal one is R1b something, maybe R1b-Z2103 or R1b-U152, not so sure.

You know a lot about Haplos. Could you understand my results if I sent them to you with that clade finder?

[Rocinante]

You know a lot about Haplos. Could you understand my results if I sent them to you with that clade finder?

I understand a lot of the R1b, the rest for me is a mistery right now, i'm very interested in understanding the E1b. And of course mate, everything that the portuguese bro with the sexy NY accent ask me, i would be glad to attend!

[Luso]

I understand a lot of the R1b, the rest for me is a mistery right now, i'm very interested in understanding the E1b. And of course mate, everything that the portuguese bro with the sexy NY accent ask me, i would be glad to attend!

This is what cladefinder gives:

Most specific position on the YFull YTree is R-Z225 Link to R-Z225 on YFull View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer

R-Z225 Z225/F1343/S225/V2334+ Z229/S359/V2059+
┣━R-Y12470 +2 Y12470/FGC30967/Z29884($)
┣━R-Y16019 +2 Y16019(?)
┣━R-Z222 +1 CTS11683(?) CTS12801(?) CTS9725(?) Z222($) Z231(?) Z235(?) Z238($) Z239(?) Z242(?) Z243(?) Z702(?) Z708/CTS2020(?)
┗━R-Z2543 +3 Z2543($) Z2544(?) Z2545/CTS8001(?) Z32163(?) Z32164($)

[MiloshN]

Pretty much three unsurprising haplogroups. Yet I have not seen you being active in the debates about Serbian/Croatian autosomal/Gedmatch results. Pribislav even decided to leave TA in the wake of that.

I don’t communicate on that, because I don’t know enough things, I read and I study. :)

[MiloshN]

My paternal Y-DNA roots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjelopavli%C4%87i
Father mother Y-DNA roots: https://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%C5%A0ekular
I1 in tree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drobnjaci

I keep researching. :)

[Rocinante]

This is what cladefinder gives:

Most specific position on the YFull YTree is R-Z225 Link to R-Z225 on YFull View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer

R-Z225 Z225/F1343/S225/V2334+ Z229/S359/V2059+
┣━R-Y12470 +2 Y12470/FGC30967/Z29884($)
┣━R-Y16019 +2 Y16019(?)
┣━R-Z222 +1 CTS11683(?) CTS12801(?) CTS9725(?) Z222($) Z231(?) Z235(?) Z238($) Z239(?) Z242(?) Z243(?) Z702(?) Z708/CTS2020(?)
┗━R-Z2543 +3 Z2543($) Z2544(?) Z2545/CTS8001(?) Z32163(?) Z32164($)

Okay i did a little research of your clade, and seems to be not that common among iberians, maybe portugueses, galicians and castillians have it, but catalans and basques have other clades, look at this:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318910764/figure/fig2/AS:523679440556037@1501866316857/Contour-maps-of-the-derived-allele-frequencies-of-the-SNPs-analyzed-in-this-manuscript.png

Seems to be that the Z225, also know as Z229 has little to no research. According the Yfull, the matches are extremely common in portugueses, but some spaniards and latinamericans have it: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z225/

To me it is a western iberian clade, we have one another Z225, Spaniard 2.0, his paternal line is from Valladolid, western Iberia, and it would be nice that Damiao and Gota try Yseq to search a better clade and see if they get Z225 too.

Superior clade man, that's all my nigga!

[Luso]

Okay i did a little research of your clade, and seems to be not that common among iberians, maybe portugueses, galicians and castillians have it, but catalans and basques have other clades, look at this:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318910764/figure/fig2/AS:523679440556037@1501866316857/Contour-maps-of-the-derived-allele-frequencies-of-the-SNPs-analyzed-in-this-manuscript.png

Seems to be that the Z225, also know as Z229 has little to no research. According the Yfull, the matches are extremely common in portugueses, but some spaniards and latinamericans have it: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z225/

To me it is a western iberian clade, we have one another Z225, Spaniard 2.0, his paternal line is from Valladolid, western Iberia, and it would be nice that Damiao and Gota try Yseq to search a better clade and see if they get Z225 too.

Superior clade man, that's all my nigga!

ty. I tried to look some stuff up about it but like you said not much about it.

[Rocinante]

ty. I tried to look some stuff up about it but like you said not much about it.

If you see those maps, they have light color in the East of the peninsula, none of them are light in the west, meaning that the Z225 might be the one common in that part of our beautiful peninsula. Now, we have to see if there's a pattern in western iberians DF27, if they always fall in Z225, you and Spaniard 2.0 for sure, now it would be very cool if Gota (Galician) and Damiao (Portuguese), are Z225 too.

[Luso]

If you see those maps, they have light color in the East of the peninsula, none of them are light in the west, meaning that the Z225 might be the one common in that part of our beautiful peninsula. Now, we have to see if there's a pattern in western iberians DF27, if they always fall in Z225, you and Spaniard 2.0 for sure, now it would be very cool if Gota (Galician) and Damiao (Portuguese), are Z225 too.

True. Definitely a possibility they both probably have it saying how it is prevalent in Portugal, Galicia, and Castille y Leon areas like you said. :thumb001: I hope in the coming years more samples get this clade so we can learn more about it.

[Leto]

I don’t communicate on that, because I don’t know enough things, I read and I study. :)
Well, that isn't rocket science, is it? I mean Gedmatch results. And you've been on this forum for almost 2 years. If you are ready to waste your money only to learn your uncle is I2 and not E-V13, then you at least should have an idea of autosomal genetics.

[MiloshN]

Well, that isn't rocket science, is it? I mean Gedmatch results. And you've been on this forum for almost 2 years. If you are ready to waste your money only to learn your uncle is I2 and not E-V13, then you at least should have an idea of autosomal genetics.

Autosomal is in the plan. And my uncle did I2a xD

[MiloshN]

https://i.imgur.com/DyZAY3J.jpg
Updated, other E-V13 :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasojevi%C4%87i